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I haven't gone through all this thread, so sorry if it has already been asked, but I'm looking for some non-Malick movies that break the traditional narrative structure. Either stuff like The Thin Red Line and The Tree of Life where it's more a series of vignettes tied together, or even stuff that takes the typical story arch and deviates from it.
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So a friend asked me yesterday for an odd request. Anyone know any good films about farmers? Preferably visually striking stuff. I was able to give him Days of Heaven and Jean de Florette, but any other good one?
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Sep 18, 2011 19:25
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So I'm in a Race & Gender in Film class right now, and our 15 page final paper is coming up. My topic is something along the lines of "The White Man's Burden Goes To Hollywood", in the sense of movies always shoehorning in at least one white person to save the day. (Inspired by this article) I'm talking about movies like Blood Diamond, The Blind Side, Glory, The Last Samurai, Hardball, Dances With Wolves and The Last of the Mohicans. Are there any others like the above that anyone can think of, as well as any movies that manage to avoid this? I'm already using Precious and Smoke Signals as examples of movies that avoid it, but more helps. Those are also both independent films so anything out of Hollywood would be helpful as well. I'd like to focus on more contemporary films (Post-70s), in order to make the paper more relevant.
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Nov 26, 2011 18:43
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Precious is a horrendous example of a movie that avoids it, both in race AND gender, right down to the light-skinned angelic savior women that rescues the titular character from a ridiculously comic exaggeration of a ghetto hellhole, festering with AIDS, incest and greasy fast food. gently caress that rubbernecking garbage. Good point. Better ideas?
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Nov 26, 2011 19:08
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Mouser.. posted:Paul Haggis 'Crash' was pretty bad about this too. It actually has a white racist/rapist be the one to swoop in and save the day. The movie tries it's best to show that even though us white folks are obviously all race intolerant or neutral at best. We can still be relied on to save you or show you the reasonable white way to do things when you're inevitably in danger. Oh yeah, I despised Crash. In addition to that, the opening scene is essentially "drat, look at white people. They always get scared and think we're gonna rob them! Well, better validate their racism and steal their car!" I can take stuff from the 70s so I'll look into that one. I was considering name dropping Sweet Sweetback and briefly talking about Melvin Van Peebles as well. Rethinking Precious, it's still worth talking about. I wouldn't call it horrendous or rubbernecking, but I can definitely see your point. It might even prove potent as an example of how films by African-American filmmakers can still fall prey to the themes I'm talking about. Reading up on it, Lee Daniels even said he was embarrassed to screen the film at Cannes because he thought it would show African-Americans in a negative light. Also, I've never seen a Tyler Perry film, but would they be worth bringing up for any reason (Positive or negative)?
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Nov 26, 2011 21:35
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Xenophon posted:She's not really 'saving' anyone, but the Bride from Kill Bill is a fun topic for discussing these issues. She's a blonde-haired, blue-eyed master of a variety of Eastern martial arts who defeats all her opponents (Asian or White), gets a special katana made by a master swordsmith, and is trained in a secret technique by a Kung Fu master who has taught no one else said technique. O-Ren Ishii even says to her, "Silly Caucasian girl likes to play with Samurai swords." Yet O-Ren Ishii is half-Chinese American, hardly the archetypical samurai sword user herself. Obviously Tarantino knows what he's doing. But does self-awareness excuse using the same stereotypes? Interestingly, my teacher really hated the character of O-Ren Ishii. In the "Golden Age" of Hollywood, and even many years after that, there was a trend of Asian characters, women in particular, only being depicted as villains. If they weren't a villain, they were played by a white person with their eyes taped back. She saw O-Ren Ishii as just another example of that trend, where Strong, Female, Asian character = Villain. I kind of feel it's a bit of a stretch, but then again she's not wrong. More so unintentional of Tarantino's part. Tarantino's work could actually prove interesting for this paper. Particularly Jackie Brown. Death Proof has it's successes and failures in that realm as well. Thanks for the Kill Bill idea, that actually might be really useful. I'll need to check out The Last King of Scotland. On a side note, I realized three of the films I initially listed (Glory, Blood Diamond, and The Last Samurai) are all directed by Edward Zwick. So that's a cool trend. As for the people trapped by a storm request, I'm going to back up The Thing. The Shining is another good one that can be both claustrophobic and grand at the same time if you haven't seen it already. Not so much a storm example, but still trapped is Wait Until Dark.
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Nov 28, 2011 08:17
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Xenophon posted:Most Wes Anderson movies fit this bill. Until I finally saw it I kept thinking it was a Wes Anderson movie. Ksrugi, if you need a place to start with him I suggest The Royal Tenenbaums or The Life Aquatic (Some people might fight me on Life Aquatic but I love everything about that movie). Also, I got an A on that paper I was asking for "White guy saves the day movies" for. So thanks for the help on that guys.
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Dec 23, 2011 23:08
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So, after having The Spook Who Sat By The Door recommended to me in the General Chat thread, I'm curious as to what other extremely radical films there are. It doesn't necessarily have to be race related, although I definitely welcome those. Anything with a major revolutionary message.
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Apr 3, 2012 06:53
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penismightier posted:Ice I've seen Sweet Sweetback and love it. This looks perfect, do you know what year it's from because there's a few movies by the name.
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Apr 4, 2012 00:46
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Alright, got another one. Where should I start with Roger Corman? I've seen a few things he's produced (including Death Race 2000 which I love), but nothing that he's directed.
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Apr 8, 2012 06:44
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So I've started a Film Society at my college, and our first screening is going to be in a couple weeks on May 2nd. However, we're having trouble deciding on our first film, since we need to make an impression with it. We're trying to find something that's accessible, fun, and decently well known, without being alienating. For example we considered The Big Lebowski but one of our advisers felt it was too much of a guy movie and thought we should aim for something more neutral demographic wise. The Godfather was thrown out as well for being too long (even though we thought it was the perfect choice, try to get college students to come to a 3 hour film in the middle of the week). Casablanca was an option, but we don't want people to think the club is going to be just about old black and white classics. At some point over the course of the club's screenings we'll definitely show these, but we need something to appropriately establish it first. Right now we're leaning towards O Brother, Where Art Thou. It's not too old, but not too recent. It's fun, enjoyable, and fairly well known amongst the type of crowd we hope to attract. It's also a great film. Although we were toying around with other options too, but I think the only one that came close was Annie Hall. I feel fine with O Brother, but I feel like there's a better choice we can't figure out. Maybe I'm just over thinking it. Anybody have any suggestions?
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Apr 20, 2012 23:07
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It doesn't quite fit the criteria, but Leon/The Professional is a pretty good film about a hired assassin if you haven't already seen it. Also, seconding Peeping Tom and adding that it's the best serial killer film of all time.
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May 8, 2012 05:35
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I thought Dane Cook was actually pretty good in Mr. Brooks. They definitely knew what they were doing when they cast him.
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May 8, 2012 06:15
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Xenophon posted:El Mariachi, of course This is a great option for getting together with friends and having a few beers, if that's what you're looking for.
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May 10, 2012 16:16
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Alright, where do I start with John Wayne? I've read a whole lot about how much of a complete jackass he was in real life, which has really turned me off of him. The only film of his I have seen is Stagecoach, and aside from the climatic chase I didn't really care for it all that much. I've heard The Searchers is something you should only watch after you've seen a good chunk of his work, so what should I be checking out?
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May 29, 2012 05:50
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Didion posted:So I'm on a pop cultural binge in documentaries, having seen Food Inc, King of Kong and Conan O'Brien Cant stop. I'd like to avoid the absolute harshest incest/mass-murderer/pedophilia-ones but can you recommend me otherwise around the same vein as the others? I've already seen Spurlock and Moore's films So just good documentaries in general? -The Thin Blue Line -Anything by Ken Burns (The Civil War, Baseball) -Exit Through the Gift Shop (One of my favorite films of 2010) -Almost any of Werner Herzog's documentaries (Grizzly Man in particular but also Encounters at the End of the World, Cave of Forgotten Dreams, etc.) -Being Elmo: A Puppeteers Journey -Jesus Camp -The Seven Up Series -Man on Wire -Reel Injun -Marwencol -The U.S. Vs. John Lennon -Classified X -Shut Up Little Man! And some good music docs: -The Devil and Daniel Johnston -Cocksucker Blues -Woodstock -Anvil! The Story of Anvil
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Jun 2, 2012 02:51
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Didion posted:Haha, I guess I just want to avoid really heavy ones, phrased poorly. Anyway, thank you so much for your suggestions! Exit Through The Gift Shop brings up some serious issues about the morality of art and commercialism, but at the same time is a lot of fun, very funny and entertaining. It's on Netflix Instant last I checked too, so that is my number one recommendation for you. Being Elmo and Man on Wire are both very uplifting (although in very different ways). The Thin Blue Line is heavy as hell, but it's a film everyone should see.
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Jun 2, 2012 04:04
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Jon Joe, pretty much everything Charlie Kaufman has written, particularly Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Being John Malkovich, Adaptation, and Synecdoche New York. Also, I'm looking for some good feminist directors who are not Jane Campion. Anyone have suggestions?
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Jun 2, 2012 05:40
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I'm looking for some good independent American films. Films in the vein of Killer of Sheep or other movies that have similar aesthetics. I know that's a pretty broad category, but any recommendations are appreciated.
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Jun 25, 2012 05:39
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EC posted:I need ALL of the Heist movies. All of them. Once your near the end of your binge, I recommend Bottle Rocket as a fun alternate take on the idea.
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Jul 27, 2012 00:56
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Are any of Andy Warhol's films worth watching?
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Jul 27, 2012 21:51
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What are some good cop movies? Buddy or no buddy.
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Aug 6, 2012 05:36
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Perpetual Hiatus posted:I would love it if someone could recommend some more obscure horror-comedies, well they dont have to be obscure its just Ive probably seen a lot of the more famous ones. Films like Shaun of the Dead or Botched or Tucker and Dale, not films like Cabin Fever. Thanks Night of the Creeps Evil Dead II Army of Darkness From Dusk Till Dawn Slither Little Shop Of Horrors Vampire's Kiss Raw Force Beetlejuice
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Aug 6, 2012 17:02
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dundun posted:I really enjoyed Inception and Drive, which I suppose are not really that similar to each other, but both movies left me with a feeling of "I need to own a copy of this" after watching them. Any recommendations from people who enjoyed those 2 movies? Well, this is pretty tough. But similar to Inception (sort of, and I'm sure you've seen most of them): Memento The Prestige Seven Fight Club Blade Runner The Matrix If you're interested more in the Dreams Vs. Reality aspect, then try the following, although they're all very deep and surreal: Waking Life Mulholland Drive Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Videodrome A Scanner Darkly You might also like: Thief Taxi Driver Dog Day Afternoon Vertigo The Driver Bronson Blow Out Death Proof Marathon Man The Conversation The Road Warrior Children of Men The Usual Suspects Snatch The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 Now, this isn't necessarily stuff that's entirely like Drive and Inception, some of it is very different, but if you liked those movies it's some more stuff you might also like.
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Aug 21, 2012 04:34
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Ayatollah Hermione posted:Also looking for any indie or lesser known comedies. The weirder the better. Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil is a good example. Need not be about anything in particular. Just looking to think "woah, that's pretty hosed up" several times while viewing. Thanks! World's Greatest Dad.
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Aug 22, 2012 14:29
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So awhile back when I asked for some really radical political films I got some really good suggestions. I still need to watch Punishment Park and The Spook Who Sat By The Door but I loved all the rest. Anyone know of anymore? Basically, I'm looking for super political films. I've already watched Salt of the Earth, and I have Act of Valor and Triumph of the Will on my to watch list. Liberal, Conservative, Socialist, Anarchist, whatever. Any country too.
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Aug 26, 2012 02:22
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HP Hovercraft posted:Have you seen any films by Jean-Luc Godard? Especially his post-1965 work. I've only seen Breathless, A Woman Is A Woman, and Alphaville.
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Aug 26, 2012 16:20
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So, my friends keep trying to get me into anime but I just don't like anything they give me to watch. I'm not even crazy about the majority of Miyazaki stuff (although Spirited Away is fantastic). Any suggestions for anime series for someone who doesn't like anime?
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Oct 12, 2012 23:52
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I guess it's hard to just list favorite movies and ask for recommendations based off of those, but I guess I can throw in Taxi Driver, Pulp Fiction, and pretty much anything by David Lynch, Stanley Kubrick, Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen Brothers and Ingmar Bergman. For animation I'm a fan of Ren & Stimpy, Persepolis, Futurama, a good chunk of Disney stuff, and also Richard Linklater's cell-shaded films like A Scanner Darkly and Waking Life. I guess, one of my biggest issues with animes is a lack of interesting characters. They always seem to have some cast full of stock characters: The dark brooding loner (usually with spiky hair), the optimistic and hopeful 12 year old, the female friend where there may or may not be sexual tension, and the guy friend with a heart of gold who also has impulse control issues. They seem one note and lack any real depth. This is just my experience though. Maybe I'm just quick to judge because I'm biased. I'm definitely saying this from limited exposure. Stuff I've had people show me and did not like: Sword Art Online, Hunter x Hunter, Eden of the East, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach I also tried Afro Samurai on my own but it was just okay. It was better than the others I mentioned but it still suffered from boring one note characters and a generic plot. I like Pokemon but that's probably got childhood nostalgia behind it and I can't really include that. I also liked Avatar: The Last Airbender which I thought did a great job on the characters and the writing, but it's also American produced and I don't think that really counts. I also prefer grittier stuff, which might be why Spirited Away is my favorite Miyazaki. My Neighbor Totoro and Howl's Moving Castle were okay but nothing astounding. Spirited Away however has a darker tone to it all, as well a mysticism and fantasy world that feels unique and all it's own. I haven't seen any of Miyazaki stuff besides those three. I've had Cowboy Bebop recommended before and it actually sounds kind of interesting and original. Ghost in the Shell and Gurren Lagaan were others a friend I trust who isn't a huge anime fanboy recommended. I've also never seen Akira, which I'd like to see. I think another issue is that the art style does nothing for me. While trying to watch Sword Art Online with people everyone was talking about how amazing it looks and I just saw another boring, generic anime style of animation. Hopefully that narrows it down a bit. I know it's a pretty broad question though.
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Oct 13, 2012 20:00
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Try Redline, Dead Leaves, Mind Game, Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt (yes, I know, the title is a hurdle; it's basically the Japanese answer to shows like Drawn Together and Futurama) and the works of Masaaki Yuasa in general. I'll keep these in mind. I guess I'll throw out some Japanese media I do like: Kurosawa films, Kaneto Shindo films, and of course Hausu.
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Oct 13, 2012 20:15
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Some of these are more spy than others. It's more somber but I highly recommend The Spy Who Came In From The Cold.
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Oct 27, 2012 07:20
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Ferrell isn't in Walk Hard, just his frequent co-star John C. Reilly. I think it's my favorite comedy of the last decade. It helps if you've seen Walk the Line or just have a general familiarity with "Oscar bait" musician biopics like that, plus the original songs are actually quite good. It also helps to know about rock music from the time, although Johnny Cash's life in particular. There's jokes that reference everything from The Beach Boys to Bowie, and it helps to know the context, although you don't need to. I also agree that it's one of the best comedies of the 2000s.
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Nov 5, 2012 21:31
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Does anybody know of any documentaries on Bigfoot? I've seen The Legend of Bigfoot (1976) and Bigfoot Lives (2007). Any others would be greatly appreciated.
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Apr 4, 2013 06:04
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Any recommendations on where to start with Eric Rohmer?
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May 12, 2013 08:35
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So this might be a bit vague but I'm looking for movies with a bit of a postmodern, drawing attention to the fact that their movies, type stuff. But not just breaking the 4th wall, stuff that kind of drives home how film can lie to you. For example, F For Fake. I also just saw Sarah Polley's Stories We Tell and that kind of had the same vibe. I'm also thinking about some of Godard's work where the editing draws heavy attention to itself or Maya Deren's At Land where each cut brings the protagonist to a different location. Or even stuff like Adaptation or Mulholland Drive.
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May 23, 2013 05:49
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Thanks, I've seen most of those but will check out the few I haven't. Although for the record I definitely feel like everything in Exit Throuh the Gift Shop is real. I've seen it over five times now and nothing really clues me in that it's a hoax. But it does get a bit into the nature of art and I'm definitely interested in that.
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May 23, 2013 07:39
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Ewar Woowar posted:Exit Through the Gift Shop is most definitely taking the piss out of the art world something chronic. Thierry/Mr Brainwash is fictional. It's most definitely taking the piss out of the art world but that doesn't mean it's fictional. Plenty of documentaries make strong, indicting statements about their subjects but it's still all true. However, the discussion of whether Exit Through The Gift Shop is true or not is a bit of what I'm going for. I've seen Annie Hall and Marienbad and love them both. An Oversimplification of Her Beauty looks like it could be definitely be the kind of thing I want, I'll try and find out how I can see it. Thanks. Edit: Looks like Oversimplification is touring right now but it'll be coming to a theater I go to regularly so I'll try and catch it then. Thanks! TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 16:57 on May 24, 2013 |
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May 24, 2013 16:50
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thet0wer posted:I just watched Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States, and now I'm looking for more history/world events/political documentaries. Why We Fight
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May 28, 2013 14:24
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So I just watched Crystal Fairy and thought it was fantastic. What are some other great 2013 releases I may have missed due to limited release/VOD only release/poor critical reception? Prince Avalanche, Rewind This, and Magic Magic are on my to-watch list.
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So I'm working on a paper about the Hayes Code and I'm having a section focused on The Lost Weekend. What are some other good silent/pre-code/code-era films about alcoholism? I've got Days of Wine and Roses sitting on my desk to discuss the crumbling of the code, and I may bring up Leaving Las Vegas as a modern example. However it'd be great to have some older films to look into. Also, thanks Fenix Down for the recommendations for 2013 films.
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