The Book of Matthew posted:

And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward. But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

VitalSigns posted:

And they can also pray out loud if they really want to, between classes, at lunch, before or after school, whenever it isn't disturbing other kids' learning.

VitalSigns posted:

That's always the complaint. The kid can pray silently whenever, it's literally impossible to prevent that since if you're doing it the way God said to no one can even know you're praying

And they can also pray out loud if they really want to, between classes, at lunch, before or after school, whenever it isn't disturbing other kids' learning.

They just can't force everyone else to observe their religious practices anymore.

Medullah posted:

I've always said we should go all in on it. Give them what they want and require school prayer.

Bet they'll change their tune when their kid is forced to kneel and pray to Mecca 5 times a day.

cat botherer posted:

A few years ago, there was actually a Louisiana state rep who reversed her support of vouchers for religious schools once she learned they could be used for Islamic schools.

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/louisiana-republican-supports-state-funds-for-religious-schools-as-long-as-theyre-not-islamic-1aa08967f75/

Medullah posted:

cat botherer posted:

A few years ago, there was actually a Louisiana state rep who reversed her support of vouchers for religious schools once she learned they could be used for Islamic schools.

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/louisiana-republican-supports-state-funds-for-religious-schools-as-long-as-theyre-not-islamic-1aa08967f75/

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I represent Satanic Idaho. I’m here to support this. Personally, I’m excited about the ability to truly represent religious plurality, which is a value that’s upheld in Idaho and the United States of America. So I look forward to the opportunity to be able to start a Satanic K-12 performing arts school, and being able to have access to the same funds that any other religious school would have.

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ARBIERI: Katherine, I'm curious what your legal perspective would be, that if this provision was passed by the electorate, would that result in equal distribution of public funds to Satanists and other… what we might call fringe religious beliefs or organizations?
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HARTLEY: Chairman and Representative Barbieri, it would. It would allow any religious group to utilize any benefit that's offered by the state. And obviously, today, we are not specifically talking about any specific benefit or bill or potential bill, but generally speaking, yes, it would be open to all faiths.

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Rep. Joe Palmer, R-Meridian, who made the motion to hold the legislation, said he supported it but had “technical questions” that he couldn’t’ get answers to at the moment. He didn’t elaborate on his questions and wasn’t available for questions following the meeting.

VitalSigns posted:

Also being angry about gun laws and then pretending to care about kids getting shot

Medullah posted:

I've always said we should go all in on it. Give them what they want and require school prayer.

Bet they'll change their tune when their kid is forced to kneel and pray to Mecca 5 times a day.

Medullah posted:

Medullah posted:

darthbob88 posted:

1. It's amazing the way that one woman being upset at Trump has had a grip on conservatives.
2. I can't help thinking there's a whole lot of difference between letting someone into the country and letting them into my apartment.

darthbob88 posted:

1. It's amazing the way that one woman being upset at Trump has had a grip on conservatives.
2. I can't help thinking there's a whole lot of difference between letting someone into the country and letting them into my apartment.

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*SLAVERY OF MEN BY WOMEN*
Every Man irrespective of who they are must read the book by a German writer Esther Villar In her book "The Manipulated Man"
This book has caused outrage and *hostile criticism* from women, it explains how women since the earliest times have manipulated men and turned them into their slaves, they have *pretended* to be the oppressed sex while in the real sense they are the oppressors.
She explains how a woman manipulates a man skillfully by steps like *courtship* and finally *marriage* , hence the saying “ *a man chases a woman until SHE catches him”* .
In her book she explains how the man is *tricked* to care for the woman all his life and her offspring.
He rolls the stone like *Sisyphus* and in turn gets rewarded by a few minutes of sexual pleasure.
We can, by observing Esther Villars assertions that a man is a slave of his desires and the woman uses and has used it for thousands of years as a stick and carrot to keep the man chasing vanity and commit his life to serving her.
She goes ahead to explain the *rivalry of women* , how each woman feels the powerful urge and need to own a male for herself.
Like a *slave owner* she detests any move the man would make to offer his services to another woman. She uses all means to keep the man to herself and her offspring alone.
Esther Villar's sentiments are captured by Nigerian Poet, critic and writer, Chinweizu Ibekwe in his book, “The Anatomy of Female Power” (AFP) and Will Farrel's, “The Predatory Female”.
They all push the theory that all societies are matriarchal and not patriarchal as we are pushed and forced to believe. *Matriarchy has ruled not through brawn but wits and tricks;* women feigning weakness to be protected etc. Thus the male becomes the most exploited sex in human history, (in wars the man is always ready to die for the woman; he has been trained to do that).
Chinweizu calls the idea of *dating* and *courtship* , *training* , like that of a horse. It is during this time that a woman having kept the man on a leash by denying him sex and getting him addicted to her by false charms, trains and breaks him to whatever she wants him to become.
The marriage celebration becomes a celebration for the *woman and her friends,* and they all congratulate her for having succeeded in getting herself a *slave* .
A man on that *wedding* day waves goodbye to his independence and his coalition of males and commits himself to a *Sisyphean* life, rolling the stone, an act he cannot abandon having *society* and the *government* checking on him and always ready to *jail* , *shame* or *exile* him for absconding his duties of slavery.
Thus the government and society helps the woman in keeping her *slave*(man) in check.
Chinweizu gives a narration of how women are trained by older matriarchs to *tame* men. He explains how a man is trained to rely on women by his own mother.
A man is *shamed for cooking* for himself and other domestic chores by his *own mother* who is an agent of the global matriarchal rule.
By getting the man to hate *domestic* works and having it enforced by culture which warns men against going into the kitchen, doing *laundry* etc.
The mother trains his son for the woman who will captivate him and when the time comes she takes hold of the man's stomach and by getting the man addicted to her body she holds him by the two, in *bed* and in the *kitchen* .
With those two weapons she manipulates the man and turns him into her plaything.
In the “Myth of the Male Power”, Esther Villar's “A Man's Right to the Other Woman”; “The Polygamous Sex”, the authors of those books challenge the narrative that men oppress women, and by detailed research across African, Western and Eastern both in ancient and modern societies, the authors unravel the hidden power of the ruthless matriarchal power that rules the world.
Also Helen E. Fisher did anthropological research of ancient human societies and wrote the book "The Sex Contract, The evolution of human behaviour" 1982. She too came to the conclusion that Marriage is a selfish creation of a Woman, where she uses sex to manipulate a man to take care of her and her offspring. Other male animals do not carry the same burden and responsibility.
*Presidents* , *Emperors* and *Kings* are all puppets of the matriarchy forces that rule the World by pulling the strings from behind the curtains
A noble piece which is a must read for every Man under the globe...

the_steve posted:

Yeah, it's one of those false equivalence arguments that you can't even really debate against because it's so reductionist that you'd have to spend more time than it's worth to explain the difference.

VitalSigns posted:

Man so many of these red pill dudes would be so much happier if they could just be gay. They don't even seem to like women.

Actually, I guess they wouldn't because gay male incels also exist, their personalities just so terrible they can't get laid on easy mode.

But anyway, how does this no-marriage no-commitment male right to poly concubines work. Mathematically I mean. If every guy is exercising his right to 8 girlfriends, are they each loving 7 other dudes and the guys are okay with that because that's how math works.

Guavanaut posted:

I'm not sure, but you'd think if men had been *shamed for cooking* by the *global matriarchy* then the most courageous act of male liberation would be to seize the means of doing your own cooking and laundry from the matriarchy, but that's curiously absent from incel spaces.

Guavanaut posted:

If you actually learn how to cook and contribute I don't think anyone but the worst boomer men would care.

LonsomeSon posted:

the core of every conservative worldview in the US at least is “the problem with unjust hierarchies is that i personally am not at the top,” understand this and everything they do and say will make sense

Neito posted:

They just assume they'd be the top of the hierarchy.

Guavanaut posted:

I'm not sure, but you'd think if men had been *shamed for cooking* by the *global matriarchy* then the most courageous act of male liberation would be to seize the means of doing your own cooking and laundry from the matriarchy, but that's curiously absent from incel spaces.

Ashcans posted:

I feel pretty confident that anyone who got 'shamed' for cooking and doing laundry is the kind of person who did it extremely badly once and then took any criticism so poorly that they refuse to ever try again.

Dirk the Average posted:

I don't... what? Who the gently caress shames men for cooking? I don't think I've ever met a woman who gives me poo poo for knowing how to cook, and they almost universally are really happy to know a dude who can cook well and brings things to parties.

Professor Beetus posted:

If you're not a disgusting creep, good cooking is like a cheat code for getting laid as a cishet dude

Professor Beetus posted:

Ah true true

For real though I think a lot of the incel poo poo also has to do with these guys having unrealistic expectations. They think they are entitled to someone who looks like Jenna Ortega but has a shared love for and encyclopedic knowledge (but not more than them!) of their favorite isekai or whatever. It's a symptom of these guys getting hooked into the reactionary pipeline and listening to guys like Andrew Tate. In truth many of them would likely have no problem having sex or finding companionship, they just don't want to do that with the female equivalent of themselves, because ( ) they recognize how unappealing that is.

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Minor adjustment for accuracy

VitalSigns posted:

Just cooking will get you to good cooking eventually, because like any skill you improve with practice and experience.

Safety Dance posted:

I don't know, I made some truly atrocious baked ziti for a woman on our second or third date and we've been married for almost ten years now.