Paranda posted:

It just saddens me that no matter how good the replies are, they will probably be ignored. Has anyone here actually succeeded in winning someone over?

TehSaurus posted:

See, this is the real problem. They send some contentless jab about a retarded talking point (in this case, "gently caress poor people") and are literally immune to any facts or evidence to the contrary. I just want to lash out in some completely non-constructive way just to elicit any kind of response, hoping that it might actually get them to reconsider their criminal ignorance. Unfortunately, the whole thing is just counter productive.

I had an uncle tell me literally that my argument was less valuable because I was more educated. It's so retarded.

quote:

86% will send this on......


BET YOU'LL SEND IT!!



I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG,


OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ,


AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS,


ONE NATION UNDER GOD,

INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!


I was asked to send on if I agree, or delete if I don't.
It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God.

Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having 'In God! We Trust' on our money and having 'God' in the Pledge of Allegiance.

I believe it's time we stand up for what we be believe!

If you agree, pass this on, if not, delete.



PLEASE KEEP THIS GOING,
EVEN IF
YOU HAVE PASSED IT ON BEFORE!!

VROOM VROOM posted:

*removed like 9 nested FW:FW:FW, also all of this is centered an on a lime green background*

Oh, dad.

VROOM VROOM posted:

*removed like 9 nested FW:FW:FW, also all of this is centered and on a lime green background*

Oh, dad.

VROOM VROOM posted:

*removed like 9 nested FW:FW:FW, also all of this is centered and on a lime green background*

Oh, dad.

amateur economist posted:

SA should try writing it's own chain email that's just plausible enough to seem realistic, and then see how long it takes to hit our inboxes or be the subject of commentary on Glenn Beck

Megiddo posted:

How about this:

quote:

THIS JUST IN, BREAKING NEWS: NEW FEDERAL PRISON CAMP CONSTRUCTED FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS

Incoming news from Cumberland Gap, Tennessee: Local sources have confirmed that construction is underway for a federal prison camp. Small portions of the structure have been completed and inmates are already beginning to fill its cells. But they're no ordinary inmates. They're American citizens that have been caught and identified as Activist Conservatives by the Obama Administration. THAT'S RIGHT! They are beginning to target everyone who disagrees with them politically and PUTTING THEM IN PRISON!!!

We were able to secure a private interview with one inmate. For the safety of his family, we'll call him "John". John claims he had been surfing the government website "www.cars.gov" just hours before a SWAT team busted down his door and arrested him, and that officials have refused to state the charges against him. He believes that after surfing a number of Conservative Activist websites, he visited cars.gov and the website picked up on this previous web history information. Again, officials refused to speak with us on the subject.

I suggest that you start watching what you do and say on the Internet. Big Brother has a way of intercepting free speech going through the Internet and letting the Government know who sent it. Write to your Congressman that you will not stand for this sort of barbaric treatment, and forward this to your entire family so they can keep themselves safe.

Banana Factory posted:

if there were any spelling or grammar errors.... just imagine it was meant to make the FWD mail more convincing.

Megiddo posted:

quote:

THIS JUST IN, BREAKING NEWS: NEW FEDERAL PRISON CAMP CONSTRUCTED FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS

Incoming news from Cumberland Gap, Tennessee: Local sources have confirmed that construction is underway for a federal prison camp. Small portions of the structure have been completed and inmates are already beginning to fill its cells. But they're no ordinary inmates. They're American citizens that have been caught and identified as Activist Conservatives by the Obama Administration. The federal prison camp is authorized due to a bill in Congress that has been recently passed with little media attention. BILL HR 3501 will make it illegal to criticize the new health plan or the Government, and it would authorize the creation of a new federal prison camp, some already under construction (picture) that would house prisoners in a new secret and unaccountable court system...

Since we were unable to secure any interviews with any of the inmates, we talked to the family of one prisoner. For the safety of him and his family, we'll call him "John". John's family says he had been surfing the government website "https://www.cars.gov" just hours before a SWAT team busted down his door and arrested him, and that officials have refused to state the charges against him. The family believes that after surfing a number of Conservative Activist websites, he visited cars.gov and this website picked up on this previous web history information. Again, officials refused to speak with us on the subject nor will they give an estimated time before release. Since John is the breadwinner for the family, his wife and children will need to find some way to pay the mortgage soon.

There is no way to tell how many arrests have been made or how many inmates are within the walls of this new prison camp. All information about this facility are covered under "Executive Privilege" and therefore impossible to obtain, even with a Freedom of Information Act request.

I suggest that you start watching what you do and say on the Internet. Big Brother has a way of intercepting free speech going through the Internet and letting the Government know who sent it. Write to your Congressman that you will not stand for this sort of barbaric treatment, and forward this to your entire family so they can keep themselves safe.

quote:

>>>>THIS JUST IN, BREAKING NEWS: NEW FEDERAL PRISON CAMP CONSTRUCTED FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS

>> Incoming news from Cumberland Gap, Tennessee: Local sources have confirmed that
> construction is underway for a federal prison camp. Small portions of the
> structure have been completed and inmates are already beginning to fill its
> cells. But they're no ordinary inmates. They're American citizens that have been caught and identified as Activist Conservatives by the Obama Administration. The
>> federal prison camp is authorized due to a bill in Congress that has been recently passed with little media attention. BILL HR 3501 will make it illegal to
> criticize the new health plan or the Government, and it would authorize the creation of a new federal prison camp, some already under construction (picture)
> that would house prisoners in a new secret and unaccountable court system...
>
> Since we were unable to secure any interviews with any of the inmates, we talked
> to the family of one prisoner. For the safety of him and his family, we'll call
> him "John". John's family says he had been surfing the government website
>"http://www.cars.gov" just hours before a SWAT team busted down his door and
>arrested him, and that officials have refused to state the charges against him.
The family believes that after surfing a number of Conservative Activist >websites, he visited cars.gov and this website picked up on this previous web
>history information. Again, officials refused to speak with us on the subject nor
will they give an estimated time before release. Since John is the breadwinner >for the family, his wife and children will need to find some way to pay the >>mortgage soon.

There is no way to tell how many arrests have been made or how many inmates are
> within the walls of this new prison camp. All information about this facility >are covered under "Executive Privilege" and therefore impossible to obtain, even >with a Freedom of Information Act request.

>I suggest that you start watching what you do and say on the Internet. Big Brother
>has a way of intercepting free speech going through the Internet and letting the Government know who sent it. Write to your Congressman that you will not stand for
> this sort of barbaric treatment, and forward this to your entire family so they can keep themselves safe.
>>
>>> WAKE UP AMERICA! AMEN!
>>
>
>
>

Gripen5 posted:

It is almost tempting to add in something ironic about the family losing their health insurance(way to go Obama), but that might just be going overboard.

Megiddo posted:

I can take a picture of a better sign, there's another one that's intact and looks newer. Or you could just add that the camp was set up during the Bush administration because as every Glenn Beck fan knows, both Republicans and Democrats are part of the cancer that is progressivism that is trying to enslave us.

Megiddo posted:

On second thought, maybe it's not such a good idea - it might drive some crazy fucker over the edge.

quote:

From: [removed email address]
Subject: FW: Notes from a DC Airline Ticket Agent (funny)
To:
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 8:29 PM



From: [removed email address]
Subject: Notes from a DC Airline Ticket Agent (funny)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:43:40 -0700



>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of 'why' our
> country is in trouble!
>
>
> 1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman (Carol Shea-Porter)
> ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up by being
> near
> the window. (On an airplane!)
>
> 2. I got a call from a Kansas
> Congressman's (Moore) staffer (Howard Bauleke), who wanted to go to
> Capetown. I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport
> information, and then he interrupted me with, ''I'm not trying to make
> you
> look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts ''
>
> Without
> trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained, ''Cape Cod is in
> Massachusetts , Capetown is in Africa ''
> His response -- click.
>
>
> 3. A senior Vermont Congressman (Bernie Sanders) called,
> furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the
> vacation in Orlando . He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I
> tried t
> o explain that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the
> state.
>
>
> He replied, 'don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida
> is a very thin state!'' (OMG)
>
> 4. I got a call from a
> lawmaker's wife (Landra Reid) who asked, ''Is it possible to see England
> from Canada ?''
>
> I said, ''No.''
>
> She said, ''But
> they look so close on the map.'' (OMG, again!)
>
> 5. An aide for
> a cabinet member (Janet Napolitano) once called and asked if he could
> rent a
> car in Dallas .. I pulled up the reservation and noticed he had only a
> 1-hour layover in Dallas .. When I asked him why he wanted to rent a
> car, he
> said, ''I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to
> drive
> between gates to save time.'' (Aghhhh)
>
> 6. An Illinois
> Congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky) called last week. She needed to know how
> it
> was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:30 a.m., and got to
> Chicago at 8:33 a.m.
>
> I explained that Michigan was an hour
> ahead of Illinois , but she couldn't understand the concept of time
> zones.
> Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that.
>
>
> 7. A New York lawmaker, (Jerrold Nadler) called and asked,
> ''Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they know
> whose
> luggage belongs to whom?'' I said, 'No, why do you ask?'
>
> He
> replied, ''Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on
> my
> luggage that said (FAT), and I'm overweight. I think that's very rude!''
>
>
> After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into
> it. (I was dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code for
> Fresno , Ca. Is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just
> putting a destination tag on his luggage.
>
> 8. A Senator John
> Kerry aide (Lindsay Ross) called to inquire about a trip package to
> Hawaii .
> After going over all the cost info, she asked, ''Would it be cheaper to
> fly
> to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?''
>
> 9. I just
> got off the phone with a freshman Congressman, Bobby Bright (D) from
> Alaska
> who asked, ''How do I know which plane to get on?''
>
> I asked
> him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ''I was told my flight
> number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them.''
>
>
> 10. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D) called and said, ''I need to
> fly to Pepsi-Cola , Florida . Do I have to get on one of those little
> computer planes?''
>
> I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola , FL
> on a commuter plane.
>
> She said, ''Yeah, whatever, smarty!''
>
>
>
> 11. Mary Landrieu (D) La. Senator called and had a question about the
> documents she needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy
> discussion
> about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa. 'Oh, no I don't.
> I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those.''
>
>
> I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa.
> When I told her this she said, ''Look, I've been to China four times and
> every time they have accepted my American Express!''
>
> 12. A New
> Jersey Congressman (John Adler) called to make reservations, ''I want to
> go
> from Chicago to Rhino, New York .''
>
> I was at a loss for words.
> Finally, I said, ''Are you sure that's the name of the town?''
>
>
> 'Yes, what flights do you have?'' replied the man.
>
>
> After some searching, I came back with, ''I'm sorry, sir, I've
> looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a rhino
> anywhere."
>
> ''The man retorted, ''Oh, don't be silly! Everyone
> knows where it is. Check your map!''
>
> So I scoured a map of the
> state of New York and finally offered, ''You don't mean Buffalo , do
> you?''
>
>
> The reply? ''Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.''
>
>
> Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it's in!
>
>
> Could anyone be this DUMB?
>
> YES, THEY WALK AMONG
> US, ARE IN POLITICS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO BREED.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Grifter posted:

Is it really a surprise that everyone mentioned in the email has a (D) next to their name?

Grifter posted:

I just received this one from my grandmother. It's not as acidic as most emails here, but it is worth posting.
Is it really a surprise that everyone mentioned in the email has a (D) next to their name?

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Of course not. What's surprising is that anyone hasn't already heard that entire "things heard at a travel agency" - I first saw it in '98 and I'm sure it goes back years before that.

Grifter posted:

I just received this one from my grandmother. It's not as acidic as most emails here, but it is worth posting.
Is it really a surprise that everyone mentioned in the email has a (D) next to their name?

Deteriorata posted:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/t/travelagent.htm

They have an older version from years ago without any names.

Grifter posted:

I just received this one from my grandmother. It's not as acidic as most emails here, but it is worth posting.
Is it really a surprise that everyone mentioned in the email has a (D) next to their name?

quote:

US Tax System Explained with Beer



Our Tax System Explained: Bar Stool Economics

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.
So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.
'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!'
'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too.
It's unfair that he got ten times more than I got' 'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'
'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

Keshik posted:

Would a chatlog be kosher for this thread? It isn't very long, especially if I were to edit it, but it really illustrates quite clearly the mentality of a lot of the Glenn Beck audience.

Keshik posted:

Tax e-mail

crime fighting hog posted:

I'm down.

Keshik posted:

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

quote:

David R. Kamerschen

Complete vitae available online. Contrary to Internet folklore, Dr. Kamerschen is NOT the author of "Tax Cuts: A Simple Lesson in Economics" or “Bar Stool Economics” or anything similar to that. Additionally, he does NOT know who wrote it and he has no opinion on its merits.

Keshik posted:

edit: gently caress me that is rather a lot of scrolling. here, you can read it here if you choose: http://www.keshiklabs.com/txt/healthcare_debate.txt