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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Defenestration posted:

misogyny kills

men feel entitled to women's bodies and attention. Patriarchal media and misogynist echo chambers like reddit tell him in no uncertain terms that women are objects, not people, and if he doesn't "own" one (a very narrow subset of the right kind of one mind you) he is worthless as a man.

When women refuse*, this us what happens.
http://whenwomenrefuse.tumblr.com/

*or, in the case of Elliot Rodgers, they don't even refuse, because he never asked. He thought hot blonds should just beg at his feet. He specifically said that he hated women in his manifesto, and we still got weeks of the media going BUT WHY DID HE DO IT?

Well now I'm totally depressed. Maybe we should change the second amendment to only apply to women

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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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My dad just posted "you think Caitlin Jenner is a hero? What about fire fighters? And are troops!" Type things.

I'm not so much surprised he did, just that he waited so long to do so.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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My dad's still on a role. I got a Killary Clinton meme and "The only military craft launched on 9/11/12 in response to Benghazi was air force one taking Obama to a vegas fund raiser!"

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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KiteAuraan posted:

Courtesy of my Facebook's resident racist rear end fucker.

Get hosed. Just. Get. hosed.

There's probably some terribly sarcastic response about how they're taking jobs away from White American Mass Murderers, but I can't be bothered. The whole situation is depressing enough without the racist fuckwits, who are all suddenly experts in the geopolitics of terrorism.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Halve they never heard of the IRA? Or is it a Catholics aren't real Christians kind of thing?

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Is this still relevant? I thought the narrative I the right switched to w being a terrible rino or something

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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So someone I know, that I knew was more conservative than not, just publicly like Michael savage on Facebook. Which is like whoa. I had to doublecheck it was actually that Michael savage. It was.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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I like how east coast and Hawaii are presented as foreign, different and scary to American values

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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moist turtleneck posted:

I know someone already referenced this but I just came across it myself and that blonde lady is a little crazy

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-fiore-syrian-refugees-shoot-em

At least even trump just wants to keep them out and not personally murder them. What a horrible person

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Joshmo posted:

I haven't really watched Dirty Jobs since '07? and even though it was enjoyable, sometimes his sarcastic humor came off as downright mean toward people working the "lovely" jobs he was supposed to be promoting.

Around that same time I liked destination truth, in which the host josh gates snarled about hunting mythological creatures. Rewatching recently he's such an rear end to locals. So I don't trust my memories of dirty jobs either

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Hey kid, like it or not we've got a two party system . If you can't Vote for the least offensive candidate like a grown up, maybe you shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.

:colbert:

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Ron Jeremy posted:

Do these people know about Melissa Joan harts dealings with witchcraft?

Yea, but it's ok since she's good at explaining it all

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Whoa there's a flashback for me. He used to play my college a bunch in the early aughts

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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There are also a lot of Catholics, like Santorum and Donahue (president of the Catholic league) who just really wish they were evangelicals.

Maybe I just went to a really liberal catholic school but one of the messages was if you only vote republicans because they're ostensibly pro-life, don't forget they support the death penalty and that's just as bad, so get off your high horse about it.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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My friends list is usually pretty good, but I saw a "prince died, but what about cops"in the wild.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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quote:

I know that for all of this time, you have all seen me as a human white male....but I have a confession to make.

In my mind, I'm actually a black female tree :/

I just hope at some point in the future we can finally pass legislation allowing other people (trees) that feel like me to photosynthesize where they feel that they should, and for non-tree people to not feel weirded out when I ask them to piss on my feet. If I feel in my heart that I am a tree, then asking people to piss on my feet is not only not weird, it is BEAUTIFUL! Wake up, America.

My old college roommate. Kind of guy who hates all minorities, super conservative and dropped out of college to try his hand at mma. Spoiler, that didn't work out.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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We all went out to dinner from work last night. My boss was giddy at the prospect of a trump presidency because the world only pretends to like us but with trump they might dislike us but we would be respected. And I Obama made Hillary cry, imagine what trump will do to her!

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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quote:

Thanks to the two aspiring rappers gettin' themselves "made good" by da po-po, we can all conveniently forget about this Hillary nonsense.

I hate this world

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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anybody else starting to see these crazy (and snopes debunked) rumors of torture and genital mutilation at the bataclan?

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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I got a "Hillary isn't so historic a nomination. Trump is a historic nomination. First outsider who can't be bought. Where's the coverage of that?"

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Don't a lot of the Epstein conspiracies include trump as well, because if he doesn't throw the elections, the clintons will expose him as a pedophile too?

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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SpeedyCow posted:

Just had someone post a few right wing hot takes on Kaepernick and within 10 minutes she posted "Rage Against the Machine - Killing in the Name Of"

I was going to make a quip about them being Paul Ryan's favorite band, but she probably thinks he's a socialist member of the uniparty anyway

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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I think what I dislike the most are the people who are all like "I'm voting for him because he's an outsider !he won't actually do all the crazy things he says. Even if he wants to the president isn't that powerful anyway. People will stop him"

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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well I saw this in the wild

quote:



get the gently caress out of here with that horse poo poo. it's idiotic and deserves to be ridiculed, and now that darth scalia is finally loving dead, it matters even loving more
Which party is it that hates gay marriage? Hillary that accepts large donations from the Saudis that hang people for simply being gay. Or Hillary who arms "moderate rebels" in Syria that have ended up razing towns to rubble and killing all Christians, gays and Muslims that don't agree with their extremist ideology. Hillary that wants to bring in hundreds of thousands of refugees, many of which bring with them ideology against gays from their homelands hardline Islamic ideology. Hillary who had the father of the Orlando gay nightclub shooter at her rally.

Which one ?

I won't bother piecing through all the other bullshit you spewed but when has Trump said anything against black people. If anything black people are most affected by hoardes of illegal migrants flooding the labor markets. Statistically speaking they are more likely to be in the low-end manual labor jobs than other demographics, jobs which see layoffs and wage compression as the labor pool increases from it's current state to more and more workers are available with the same finite amount of jobs that need to be done, wages go down and an already dire situation in the black community gets worse. He has endorsements from Mike Tyson, Ben Carson and many other black people. Ones that have fought adversity to attain success and realize that the victim complex perpetuated by the Democratic party is not helpful to the community.

The shitholes in Paterson, Newark, Camden all near you have been Democratic strongholds for years and do they see any improvement from violence and poverty? Newark spent more per student than any other school district in the nation yet sees no benefits from the higher spending. Chicago? Where is all this improvement from the $12 packs of cigarettes I buy here ($5 or $6 of which is pure tax), or the money they're raising from $500 tickets from red light cameras and all manner of other desperate measures to raise money to fix the deficit. Instead all the ills of the black community get blamed on discrimination, or white Republicans advocating for gun rights, anything but the community themselves. Then you have $60,000 per year colleges that fed us all this narrative of "white privledge". My girlfriend has even bought into this bullshit. Whenever she brings it up I tell her Asian Americans bring in about $60,000 per year in earnings on average, much higher than white Americans average earnings so there must be Asian privilege then. Or how about the $100,000+ that the average Jewish American earns, can we speak about Jewish privlege as well then. Didn't think so, I'd be chucked out of class for being anti-Semitic if I brought that up.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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I responded to someone, who posted that "well you are a trump supporter so I shouldn't be surprised when you're taken in by con artists..."

Which I'm sure will go well

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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OldMemes posted:

Why would Clinton even want to start a war with Russia?

Because she's the puppet!

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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quote:

Learn to read it doesn't matter if it's "consentual". If I recieve a bj in my office, it could be construed as public indecency as well, imagine if a tour passed by with schoolchildren.

:stare:

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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quote:

That clicking sound is millions of Democrats getting off their high horse regarding treatment of "women and girls".

#CarlosDanger

In response to the new weiner email thing

Ambitious Spider fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 29, 2016

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Keeshhound posted:

Context?

Edit: Aso, Jesus loving Christ,

"I think that women deserve to be treated with dignity and respect equal to how men are."

"Get off your high horse!"

Oh, yea, a response to the new Weiner email thing

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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My dad is an avid Trump supporter, but usually keeps the nonsense off Facebook. Lately he's been posting some innocuous stuff how Hillary suffers from "liarrhea".
Today it's Clinton murder conspiracies and Im tempted to post the snopes thing debunking it, but he probably wouldn't care.

It's just so frustrating how people believe such nonsense

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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JVNO posted:

If you haven't figured out already, for at least 2/3 of the population on each side of the left/right divide (~1/3 each), politics is just a team sport. They could give less a poo poo about the actual platforms and policy positions- it's just red team vs. blue team with all the assumed baggage those teams carry.

People believe the 'narrative' ('Republicans are good economic stewards!'), not the actual evidence (Republicans have a terrible track record with the economy).

Yea, I get it, it's still frustrating.

My dads been listening to far right wing radio forever. And I can even handle the relatively normal Hillary is a liar, corrupt whatever...

It's the more out there, she's weak and dying and horrible and ineffective, but is in complete control of the best top secret murder squad in the worlds history conspiracy bullshit that really gets to me.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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I haven't talked to my crazy trump supporting dad. We were never on great terms without politics but we're ok when we ignore them. Which we have until he said something horribly racist, I called him
On it and I got a "you know who the real racist is, Obama!"

This time though...well I might have to skip the weekly phone call and just be glad he's living near LA for work which I'm sure is driving him crazy

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Not to be a nerd scruff but...



Personally I finally registered as a democrat, and I'm signing up to do some volunteer work at planned parenthood, and definitely help out come the midterms

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Yea, I will say while I get the frustration leading to protests I kind of wish that energy would be used toward something more productive and positive that will actually affect change.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Lightning Knight posted:

There's not really a lot to do right now.

These people probably needed to be protesting Donald Trump rallies for the last year, though. Protesting only helps you if you haven't already lost the election for the people who support your cause.

Yea I don't hold it against anybody, and I get the need to do something/anything, I just hope the energy holds when things actually need doing

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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Asiina posted:

I think the protests are important to show people who are afraid right now that they aren't as alone as they feel. That it's not everyone in their country who hates them, and that even if their country voted for a bigot, they aren't going to quietly accept it.

When you feel alone and scared, something symbolic like that can be enough even if they are not affecting real change, so I am in support of the protests.

As I said a little later, I agree I just hope this momentum continues toward something productive.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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My dad is concern trolling about Hillary Clinton being part of the war on women by intimidating those accusing Bill of assault.

I want to post something good in response. How's this?

"Nice to see you getting woke, on women's issues dad! I'm sure you voted against the guy who bragged about sexual assault, and will take the assault allegations against him with the same careful consideration."

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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ErIog posted:

Ask him which women and how Hillary managed to do that. The only evidence for this is third hand information from a dead woman's diary about Hillary calling Lewinsky a vapid gold-digger and one of the women reporting that Hillary said "Thank you for your support." to her at a campaign event during the Arkansas governor's race.

The entire "Hillary intimidated victims" thing is built on horseshit and angel farts. So push back hard to try to get facts and then when they can't come up with facts you dismiss their claims as being fundamentally the same as 9/11 truthers or moon landing hoaxers.

Your dad totally believes GWB did 9/11 and the moon landing never happened. :getin:

IT's actually some breitbart thing about how she didn't believe paula jones.

I'm still tweaking, but if somebody has something better I"d love to have it:

Glad you're getting so into women's issues Dad! I take it you voted against both her, and the man who bragged about committing sexual assault. I'm sure you're taking the allegations against the President Elect with the same careful consideration.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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I typed up a long response but was phone posting and lost it. The short version is it's hard to have polite substantive policy discussions with people who don't even accept basic facts. Even if there's no outright malevolence (i.e. I've heard a lot about these emails/Benghazi/whatever might be something there, ) you're at a deficit if you have to play fact checker before the discussion begins

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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



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I'm trying to argue with someone (a breitbart reader actually) about how bannon is a white nationalist. They said "Says, you. Also you didn't have a problem with racist sharpton in the white house"


I can't even.

They also think Obama was the furthest left hardcore marxist the world has ever seen.

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