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Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

MacBook Air Gamer posted:

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

I used to get forwards that ended with this paragraph verbatim as far back as 1998. I wasn't even an atheist then, and it still pissed me off for trying to guilt-trip me to sending on whatever tripe it was attached to.

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Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

quote:

keshik: what has the DOE ever done to you?

friend: My beliefs are not true because of how they effect me
Out of context or not, your friend is a monumental tool.

And this whole "ECONOMICS IN ONE LESSON ECONOMICS IN ONE LESSON" business doesn't make him sound any more rational.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Keshik posted:

Got this one a couple days ago:



I sent this reply:

Hey now, you leave Carl out of this :colbert:

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

RagnarokAngel posted:

To be fair most of the crazy stuff comes from the south. I'm sure wherever you're from has the same sort of problem.

In Canada, our weirdos all come from Alberta.

Which, incidentally, is the only province to not have socialized health care, and where I'm from.

:smith:

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

RagnarokAngel posted:

HOW DARE THEY!

My thoughts exactly. I read that one and all I could think was "drat straight".

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBSSLHc0Krk

dun dun dun!

I listen to stuff like this and I wonder where some of these people get off claiming that the man has a silver tongue.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Drop The Bomb posted:



I'm not 100% up on my American history/current events. Who's the victimized general's modern day equivalent? And is the honest senator meant to be John Kerry?

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

dphrag posted:

:words:

The story is also a complete and utter fabrication right from the word "An". Just sayin'.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Well, you know how the Greek and Hebrew versions of the bible are basically translations of the KJV Bible through miraculous time travel? The winter solstice works pretty much the same way.

Imagine four December-based celebrations on the edge of a cliff...

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Your grandma is some one who genuinely gets it. I really enjoyed that letter, and I'm not even Christian.

Plom Bar fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Dec 4, 2009

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

crime fighting hog posted:

Should I tell this to the group of Crusade kids that are always praying in the middle of the campus recreation area each week or should I not try to get shot?

I would just quote the relevant passage right at them and gauge their reactions.

“When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

Plom Bar fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Dec 16, 2009

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Query: Was Paul history's first sender of crazy religious chain letters?

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
I can't stand the whole "Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays" thing. I used to think that it was almost exclusively Christians who got upset about Happy Holidays, but lo and behold, this year I was proven wrong when a pagan friend of mine put a rant up on Facebook about how offended he is that people had the gall to wish him a Merry Christmas.

I'll tell ya who's never getting a card from me ever again.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Mornacale posted:

I can't tell if a pagan getting mad about people celebrating Christmas is incredibly ironic or makes perfect sense.

It WOULD make perfect sense if he were a pagan for reasons beyond "I'm a twenty-something Fine Arts student and want to be different from the rest of you sheeple"

His paganism is recent, you see.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Vivian Darkbloom posted:


Did you actually reply to any of these, Jesse? Or are you just posting her responses to your responses, Jesse? If the former, I'd like to see what you posted, Jesse. Could you post your half of the argument, Jesse?

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Anything that gets the word out that Fox News is poo poo is a-ok in my books.

Enemy-of-my-enemy, etc.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

davidb posted:

interrogation is largely about causing stress. its not about giving the guy a vacation and he will decide to divulge information.

This is actually the exact opposite of truth. Seriously, go to a library and read up on the science of interrogation.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Kubrick posted:

Has the discourse got this bad?

Glenn Beck and his ilk have hundreds of nutjobs convinced that Code Pink holds influence on the international stage and are playing an active role in what's going on in Egypt.

You tell me.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
My nephew posted this on Facebook today.

Living proof my sister can at least do one thing right posted:

Are you sick of highly paid teachers?
...

Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.

However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....

That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!

The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days= $277.77/per day/30students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Make a teacher smile; repost this to show appreciation for all educators.
:unsmith:

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
All foreigners want is to kill honest, decent, hard-working Americans. And we do it by getting 11% off sweatervests at Macy's.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
It's on par with the whole "Michael Jackson was my favourite musician, Farrah Fawcett was my favourite actress, and Obama is my favourite president! Hint hint, god!" thing that was going around in 09.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

"Kubrick" posted:

Honestly guys, I think we should take this.
I see nothing - at all - wrong with this.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
If I were an eccentric multibillionaire business tycoon I'd build an $8 billion abortionplex just for the press.

In other news, Abortionplex is, for some reason, autocorrected to be capitalized on iOS devices.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Guaran-loving-tee that kid's never worked an honest day in his life.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
I had to stop when he called Trump "absurdly successful" to keep my brain from melting out of my ears.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Revener posted:

There is no reason to expect him to understand that.

Is he saying Laissez-faire is unfair use of latin?
He didn't post the newer exchange, I'm guessing phrases like "argumentum ad hominem" came up.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

What the hell does "20 missions" mean anyway?
Song numbers. The marine served in the Elite Beat Agents unit where he was tasked with singing and dancing the troubles of the downtrodden Iraqis away.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Hastings posted:

He gave our class the most ballin' as gently caress Christmas party with pizzas, pinatas, the whole shebang. As long as he's providing for his son I don't give a gently caress how he earns money.
Just curious, would you feel similarly if he earned his money trafficking underage prostitutes? I'm not implying a correlation, I'm just trying to grasp the breadth of this statement.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

HipGnosis posted:

I kind of agree that people shouldn't support 2 million prisoners.
What would you suggest as an alternative?

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Amarkov posted:

Reducing imprisonment to the levels of any other first world country would be a good start.
Ok good. Just making sure we weren't talking about letting prisoners rot.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Y'all are making a huge fuss over a post that was sarcastic, just FYI.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Dominion posted:

Yes, apparently it is very hard to understand what it's about. Maybe that's because they just yell WHAT DO THEY EVEN WANT HUH over and over and then don't actually listen when people answer them. Or listen and then say "Hmm, no, I think it's just class warfare and they hate success"
I had a guy on my Facebook who couldn't wrap his head around "What OWS is about", and after carefully explaining in detail some of the more significant points of the movement, he whined that my explanation was demonstrative that we're just a bunch of hipsters with no focus or central point.

He wanted OWS distilled down to something that fits on a bumper sticker. I offered "Abolish the tyranny of the richest 1%". He seemed to accept that. v:rolleyes:v

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Found on Facebook:

quote:

Questions for the Occupy Wall Street protestors

WHO STARTED OCCUPY WALL STREET?

>> WHO IS THE FATHER OF OWS?

>> HOW DID THIS MOVEMENT START?

>> WHO PLANNED THIS EVENT?

>> WHO IS PAYING FOR THE MADISON AVENUE MARKETING FIRM? THE NEWSPAPERS? THE FLYERS?

>> WHAT ROLE DID SEIU PLAY IN THE PLANNING OF THIS EVENT?

>> WHO IS STEPHEN LEARNER?

>> WHO IS VAN JONES?

>> WHAT IS THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS?

>> WHO IS GEORGE SOROS?

>> WHAT IS HIS RELATIONSHIP TO CAP?

>> IS HE A CRONY CAPITALIST?

>> DOES HE PAY HIS FAIR SHARE?

>> IS HE GETTING RICH OFF OF THE CORRUPT SYSTEM OF WALL STREET SPECULATION?

>> HOW DOES HE MAKE HIS MONEY?

>> HE MADE $7 BILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR PERSONALLY THROUGH HIS HEDGE FUND AND INVESTMENTS — IS THAT OKAY? IF YES, WHY? IF NO, WHY?

ECONOMY

>> NAME THE TIME IN HISTORY THE GLOBAL ECONOMY COLLAPSED (AS IT IS SHAPING UP TO DO NOW)

>> IF YOU CANNOT… PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME… WHY NOT?

>> IF YOU WERE TO PLAN A GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE – HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE BETWEEN THE CORRUPT SYSTEM WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND THE NEW SYSTEM YET TO BE CREATED?

>> WOULD THERE BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES?

>> COULD PEOPLE DIE?

>> IF NONE, WHY?

>> IF YES, ESTIMATE HOW MANY — AND HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THOSE DEATHS?

>> BY COLLAPSING THE SYSTEM (WALL STREET) AND CAUSING ECONOMIC CHAOS – HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU DIFFERENT THAN ONE OF THE CORPORATIONS YOU ARE PROTESTING?

FAIR SHARE:

AGREED: PEOPLE SHOULD PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE IN TAXES.

QUESTIONS

>>WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? WHAT IS FAIR?

>>IF IT’S NOT ZERO – PLEASE EXPLAIN GE (AND WHY WASN’T IMMELT ON THE RICH HOMES TOUR?)

>> WHAT ABOUT GEORGE SOROS?

>>RUSSELL SIMMONS?

>>KANYE WEST??.

>>ARE THEY WALL STREET CRIMINALS? ARE THEY NOT AN EVIL CORPORATION IN BED WITH GOV?

>> CAN THERE BE GOOD PEOPLE IN AN EVIL CORPORATION? IF SO, HOW DO YOU JUDGE WHO IS WHO?

>> GE PAYS NO INCOME TAX, THEIR CEO IS ON THE PRESIDENTS ECONOMIC COUNCIL – WHY DO YOU NOT PROTEST GE? DO YOU SUPPORT THIS PRESIDENT OR ADMINISTRATION?

>>EXPLAIN GREEN WEEK on NBC

>> IF YES IN ANY WAY…WHY?

>>IF HE IS IN BED OR EXCUSES BEHAVIOR SO BAD THAT THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE COLLAPSED SHOULDN’T HE BE DEEMED GUILTY AS WELL?

>> IF YES, EXPLAIN WHY.

>> IF YES COMPARE GE GREEN WEEK ANSWER ABOVE

CAPITALISM IS DESTROYING AMERICA

ROCKEFELLER, ASTOR MELLON, AND CARNEGIE ARE KNOWN AS “ROBBER BARRONS” AND WOULD PROBABLY BE TARGETS OF OCCUPY WALL STREET.

>>WHO BUILT THE LINCOLN CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS?

>> WHO BUILT MOMA?

>> THE NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY?

>> CARNEGIE HALL?

>> CARNAGE MELLON UNIVERSITY

>> THE NATIONAL GALLERY OF ART?

>> WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ROCKEFELLER CENTER AND COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY?

>> DOES THIS MEAN CAPITALISM HELPED COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY?

>>HOW DID CAPITALISM HELP COLUMBIA?

>>DOES CAPITALISM HELP OR HURT COLUMBIA TODAY?

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION:

>> DOES YOUR UNIVERSITY SUPPORT THIS ADMINISTRATION AND ITS POLICIES?

>> DID YOU OR THOSE YOU ARE WITH VOTE OR CAMPAIGN FOR THIS PRESIDENT IN THE PAST?

>> ARE YOU CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM NOW?

>> IF SO, ARE YOU BETRAYING YOUR IDEALS BY HELPING SOMEONE WHO HAS COMPROMISED ON IMPORTANT ANTI-CORRUPTION PRINCIPLES?

>> IF HE HAS NOT DONE ALL THAT HE PROMISED TO DO AND IN FACT BETRAYED HOPE AND CHANGE WHAT STOOD IN HIS WAY?

>> COULD YOU NAME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES?

>> HE CLAIMS THAT HE IS NOT IN BED WITH BANKERS AND BIG CORPORATIONS. IS HE LYING?

>> IS HE JUSTIFIED FOR NOT TELLING THE TRUTH IF IT FURTHERS YOUR OR HIS AGENDA?

>> WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS A LEADER CAN LIE TO YOU AND IT BE JUSTIFIED?

INVESTIGATIONS/FINANCIAL

>> WHY HAS THIS ADMINISTRATION NOT DONE INVESTIGATIONS ON BANKS AND BANKERS?

>> WHY HASN’T THIS ADMINISTRATION DONE INVESTIGATIONS ON THE FED?

>> WHY HASN’T THIS ADMINISTRATION DONE INVESTIGATIONS ON FREDDIE OR FANNIE OR SALLY MAC?

>> WHY HAS NO ONE EXCEPT BERNIE MADOFF GONE TO JAIL UNDER THIS OR THE LAST PRESIDENT?

>> WASN’T THE HOPE WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND PROMISED SUPPOSED TO COME FROM A PRESIDENT THAT WAS DIFFERENT? THAT WAS BEYOND POLITICS?

>> WASN’T THE CHANGE THAT AMERICA WAS LOOKING FOR AN END TO CRONY CAPITALISM?

>> WERE YOU WRONG ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT LAST TIME ELECTION?

>> HOW ARE YOU SURE THIS TIME?

>> DID AMERICA LEARN FROM ITS MISTAKE OF NOT DEMANDING A CLEAR DECLARATION OF WHAT HOPE AND CHANGE MEANT?

>> SHOULD THERE HAVE BEEN A CLEAR PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THIS NEW PRESIDENT REMAINED ON COURSE TO DELIVER THE CHANGE PROMISED AND HOPED FOR OF AN END OF CORRUPTION AND CRONYISM?

>> WHAT IS SOLYNDRA? WHAT IS LIGHT SQUARED?

>> DO YOU THINK THOSE WHO HAVE DESIGNED THIS EVENT (COLLAPSE WALL STREET) SHOULD HAVE A CLEAR PLAN TO MAKE SURE AFTER THE COLLAPSE THEY WILL DELIVER THE CHANGE OF AN END OF CORRUPTION AND CRONYISM?

>> DID IT DISCREDIT THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT THAT IT WAS SAID TO BE FUNDED, ORGANIZED AND OR CO-OPTED BY THOSE WHO HAD DIRECT TIES AND INTERESTS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?

WOULD IT TAINT OR HURT OCCUPY WALL STREET IF THAT WERE THE CASE HERE?

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EQUAL JUSTICE/SOCIAL JUSTICE

>> CAN SOCIAL JUSTICE AND EQUAL JUSTICE CO EXIST?

>> IS EVERYONE ON WALL STREET PUNISHED FOR THE CRIMES OF THE GUILTY?

>> IS EVERYONE ON WALL STREET GUILTY?

>> IF NO, ARE YOUR ACTIONS TO COLLAPSE WALL STREET PUNISHING THOSE WHO ARE INNOCENT?

>> IF YES, IS THAT EQUAL JUSTICE IN SEEING THAT YOU WOULD BE PUNISHING THE INNOCENT FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE?

>>DO YOU BELIEVE IN FAIR TRAILS? A JURY OF YOUR PEERS? A CHANCE TO FACE YOUR ACCUSERS? GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT?

>>SHOULD WALL STREET BANKERS:

A). LOSE THEIR JOBS

B). HAVE ALL OF THEIR WEALTH TAKEN?

C). GO TO JAIL? IF YES, HOW LONG? IF YOU WISH FOR A JUDGE AND JURY TO DECIDE, WHY?

D). IF YES TO BOTH IN C. SEE EQUAL JUSTICE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE INCOMPATIBLY ABOVE.

LYNCH MOBS THEN AND NOW

>> DO YOU BELIEVE LYNCH MOBS (IN CIVIL RIGHTS ERA) ARE/WERE WRONG? IF SO, WHY?

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LYNCH MOB AND WHAT YOU ARE BEING ENCOURAGED TO DO NOW? (LEWIS, HOMES OF WEALTHY)

COPS:

>> ARE COPS GOOD OR BAD?

>> ARE THERE GOOD COPS AND BAD COPS?

>> IF THERE ARE BOTH GOOD AND BAD POLICEMEN HOW DO YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE?

>> IF YOU WERE A COP, A GOOD ONE NOT BAD, WHAT WOULD YOU DO RIGHT NOW IN THIS SITUATION ON WALL STREET?

>> IF YOU WALKED AWAY (AS A COP) AND ALLOWED THE CROWD FREEDOM TO DO AS IT WISHED, WOULD YOU BE A HERO OR A COWARD?

>> WOULD DAMAGE TO PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROPERTY BE DONE IF THE POLICE WOULD LEAVE? DOES THAT MATTER?

>> COULD INNOCENT PEOPLE BE HURT? DOES THAT MATTER?

>> IF YOU OR ANYONE IN YOUR GROUP ANSWERED THERE ARE NO INNOCENT HERE — DOES THAT MATTER?

>> IF NO ON ABOVE PLEASE CHECK ANSWER FOR CONSISTENCY ON LYNCH MOBS AND JURY TRIALS?

>> DEFINE MOB RULE – IS THIS GOOD OR BAD?

>> THERE ARE MANY PRISONERS THAT HAVE BEEN WRONGLY ACCUSED AND CONVICTED. IT HAPPENS THE WORLD OVER BUT ESPECIALLY IT SEEMS IN AMERICA. THE RECENT EXECUTION IN GA (ACCORDING TO YOU) IS MERELY ONE EXAMPLE. IN LIGHT OF THIS AND KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY INCARCERATED?

>> IF THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT, HOW WILL YOU ASSESS AND FIX IT?

>> IS IT FAIR TO LEAVE THE POSSIBLE INNOCENT BEHIND BARS WHILE THAT PROCESS IS GOING ON?

COLLEGE: Many of the signs on Occupy Wall Street complain about student loans.

WE AGREE:

>> MANY HAVE STOLEN FROM US

>> NO ONE SHOULD PAY WHAT YOU ARE PAYING (HAVE PAID) FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

>> WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF EDUCATION?

>> WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF THAT PRIVATE COLLEGE EDUCATION RISING 8 % JUST LAST

>> HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN YOUR UNIVERSITIES ENDOWMENT FUND?

>> IS THERE NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO LOWER TUITION COSTS?

MOM & DAD

>> ARE YOU SINCERELY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR PARENTS AND WHAT THEY FACE AS WELL AS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR YOU?

>> HAVE YOUR PARENTS WORKED HARD FOR THEIR HOME AND WHAT LITTLE MONEY THEY HAVE SAVED DURING THEIR LIFETIME?

>> IF YOU SUCCEED IN COLLAPSING WALL STREET, WHO IS HURT AND WHO IS HURT THE MOST?

>> ARE YOUR PARENTS HURT? YOUR FRIENDS PARENTS?

>> UNION PENSIONS ARE INVESTED IN WALL STREET

>> YOUR UNIVERSITY ENDOWMENT

>> THE AVERAGE AMERICAN (401K) IS INVESTED IN WALL STREET.

>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LIFETIME OF WORK BY YOUR PARENTS IF YOUR ACTIONS CAUSE A COLLAPSE OF THE SYSTEM?

FOREIGN COUNTRIES

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ANY GOVERNMENT ABROAD WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WOULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON YOUR FREEDOMS?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT US TROOPS SHOULD BE CALLED HOME?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE TOUR TROOPS ARE BABY KILLERS? OR PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WERE EITHER MISGUIDED OR USED?

>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE TROOPS OVERSEAS IF THERE WAS AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE IF YOU DON’T PULL THE TROOPS OUT BEFORE A COLLAPSE THERE WOULD BE A GREATER OR LESSER CHANCE OF MORE KILLING?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT FORCES ON EITHER SIDE COULD OR WOULD USE AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AS AN EXCUSE FOR MORE KILLING?

>> WOULD YOU HAVE PLAYED ANY ROLE IN THAT POSSIBLE KILLING BASED ON YOUR ACTIONS HERE TO COLLAPSE WALL STREET?

>> IF NO; DO THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS?

>> IF YES; IF THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS… DOES THAT INCLUDE THE DEATH OF INNOCENTS?

>> IF NOT WHY?

>> IF YES, EXPLAIN WHAT MAKES YOU DIFFERENT THAT GEORGE W BUSH, WHO ALSO THOUGHT HE WAS RIGHT.

EGYPT

>> HOW DID THE EGYPTIAN REVOLUTION TURN OUT?

>> IS IT BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAD?

>> FREE, FAIR AND DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS WERE PROMISED TO BE HELD BY AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, WHAT DATE WERE THEY ACTUALLY HELD?

>> WHO IS CURRENTLY IN CHARGE OF EGYPT?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE IN MILITARY RULE?

>> WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE UNDER IT HERE?

>> WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MILITARY RULE HERE AND IN EGYPT?

>> THE MEDIA CLAIMS YOU ARE THE SAME AND ARE STRIVING FOR THE SAME IDEALS AS THE YOUTH THAT OVERTURNED THEIR OPPRESSIVE AND CORRUPT SYSTEM. IS THIS TRUE?

>> IF YES, IF YOU WOULDN’T WANT TO LIVE UNDER MILITARY RULE WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO YOU HAVE TO CORRECT THE INJUSTICE OF THEIR SYSTEM?

>> IF YOU ANSWER THAT YOU DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY.

>> WASNT AMERICAN INSERTION INTO GLOBAL POLITICS WHAT CAUSED THE HATRED FOR THE WEST?

>> HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE FIGHTING ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND NOT HELPING THOSE WHO WILL DEVELOP A REPRESSIVE REGIME?

>> IS IRAN A REPRESSIVE REGIME?

POST REVOLUTION

>>IF THOSE WHO TAKE POWER, AFTER THE SUCCESSFUL OCCUPY WALL STREET COLLAPSE, BETRAYED THE REVOLUTION AND THE PEOPLE BY NOT FOLLOWING THE PLAN (THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN DEVELOPED) WHAT SHOULD THE PEOPLE DO?

>>WOULD THOSE NEW LEADERS STEP DOWN OR WOULD AN EVENT LIKE THIS NEED TO BE STAGED AGAIN TO FORCE THEM OUT?

>>IF THEY DIDN’T VOLUNTARILY STEP DOWN WOULD YOU SEEK TO HAVE THEM ARRESTED?

>>IS VIOLENCE AN OPTION TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF REVOLUTION?

>>CAN YOU SOLVE VIOLENCE WITH VIOLENCE?

>>SHOULD THE PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A GUN IN CASE THOSE IN CHARGE DID BETRAY THE REVOLUTION?

>>IF YES, WHY.

>>IF YES, WHY DOES THIS NOT APPLY TODAY?

>>IF NO, WHO AUTHORIZES THE USE OF FORCE AND WHAT FORCE IS ALLOWED?

>>WHO PROTECTS THE IDEA OR YET TO BE FORMED IDEAS OF THE NEW REVOLUTIONARY DEMOCRACY?

>>WHO WOULD ARREST THOSE WHO BETRAYED THE REVOLUTION IF THE SYSTEM HAS COLLAPSED AND THE COPS WERE >>ALL EITHER FIRED OR JAILED?

>>ARE JAILS NEEDED?

>>IF YES, WHO RUNS THE NEW DEMOCRATIC JAILS FORMALLY KNOWN AS THE PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX?

>>ASSUMING THERE WAS AN IMMEDIATE CITIZENS POLICE FORCE ENACTED TO REPLACE THE CORRUPT SYSTEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHAT SYSTEM OF TRIAL WOULD YOU ENGAGE?

>>CHE SAID “WE DON’T NEED A TRIAL TO CONVICT THE GUILTY”. DO YOU AGREE?

>>IF NO, WOULD THERE BE A JURY?

>>WHO WOULD BE THE JUDGE?

>>WHAT WOULD THE RULES OF EVIDENCE BE?

>>WILL THE PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS?

>>WHAT ARE THEY?

>>HAVE THEY BEEN WRITTEN DOWN ANYWHERE?

>>IF NO, BECAUSE YOU WERE PLANNING ON DOING THAT AFTER THE COLLAPSE, IF THE ABOVE SCENARIO PLAYED OUT WOULD YOU REGRET THAT DECISION?

>>IF YES, WHAT WERE THEY BASED ON?

>>WHERE DO MANS RIGHTS COME FROM?

>>IF THEY COME FROM A COMMITTEE OR LEADERS, WHY THEN CANT THE LEADERS YOU NOW SAY BETRAYED THE REVOLUTION CHANGE YOUR RIGHTS AND DECLARE YOU A TRAITOR TO THE REVOLUTION?

>>HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY?

>>IF YES, WHERE?

>>WHAT WERE THE CONDITIONS?

>>WHERE THERE WARNING SIGNS?

>>DO ANY OF THOSE SIGNS EXIST NOW?

ENERGY

>>NOW THAT THE ECONOMY HAS COLLAPSED IN AMERICA BUT NOT SOMEHOW EFFECTED THE REST OF THE WORLD, HOW >>CAN WE AFFORD MIDDLE EASTERN OIL TO BUY GASOLINE?

IF YOU SAY WE CANNOT AFFORD GASOLINE AND THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, LET’S FOR ARGUMENT SAKE AGREE:

>> HOW DO WE FUEL TRACTORS FOR FARMING ON THE SCALE NEEDED TO FEED THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AND ELSE WHERE?

>> HOW IS SAID FOOD TRUCKED TO STORES HERE IN NEW YORK IF TRUCKERS COULDN’T AFFORD FUEL?

>> HOW DO YOUR PARENTS GET FOOD FROM THE STORE TO THEIR HOME?

>>NOW THAT THE POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A CITIZEN PATROL, ARE YOUR PARENTS SAFE WALKING THE STREETS WITH FOOD IN AN AREA AFTER THE CURRENCY HAS JUST COLLAPSED?

>> IF ONE OF THEM WERE HURT OR KILLED DUE TO A SCENARIO LIKE THIS, WOULD YOU BE IN ANYWAY RESPONSIBLE?

>> IF THEY WERE HURT AND COULDN’T RECEIVE MEDICAL TREATMENT IN TIME BECAUSE THE EMS COULDN’T AFFORD GAS FOR THE AMBULANCE WOULD YOU IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE?

>> HOW WOULD THE HOSPITALS PAY DOCTORS AND EMS WITHOUT A CURRENCY?

>> WHY WOULD DOCTORS OR NURSES BE AT WORK?

>> TO ENSURE THEY DID GO TO WORK, WHO WOULD PROTECT AND FEED THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEY SERVED?

> HOW DO THE DOCTORS AFFORD GAS TO GO TO WORK?

>> WHAT SYSTEM OF ELECTRICITY IS RUNNING THE HOSPITALS?

CRONY CAPITALISM

DEFINE CRONY CAPITALISM.

>> WHEN THE GOVT TOOK OVER GM, GAVE ALL THE BANKS TARP MONEY AND ALLOWED COMPANIES LIKE GE PAY NO TAXES WHILE MAKING BILLIONS AND SHIPPING JOBS OVERSEAS – IS THAT CRONY SOCIALISM, CRONY CAPITALISM OR CRONY STATISM?

>> IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?

IN ALL THREE SCENARIOS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, THE SYSTEM OR THE CRONYISM?

>> WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO END CRONYISM?

>> HAS YOUR APPROACH EVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE?

>> IF YES, LIST ALL EXAMPLES OF ATTEMPTS FAILED AND SUCCESSFUL.

>> WHY DID THEY FAIL?

>> HOW DID THOSE THAT FAILED BEGIN?

>> WHO LEAD THE WAY ON THOSE FAILED ATTEMPTS?

>> HOW DID THOSE WHO BEGAN THE REVOLUTION FAIR IN THE NEW SYSTEMS?

>> WHO IS THOMAS PAINE?

>> WHAT WAS HIS ROLE IN THE FRENCH REVOLUTION?

>> WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?

>> WHAT DID HE LEARN ABOUT REVOLUTIONS?

>> HOW DID THE FRENCH REVOLUTION END?

>> WHO TOOK POWER IN FRANCE?

>> WAS THAT GOOD OR BAD FOR THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE?

>> WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN AMERICA?

>> DO YOU HAVE HOSTILE FEELINGS ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS? WHY?

IF YOU ARE READING IN A GROUP OF LIKE MINDED, OPEN MINDED AND EDUCATED PEOPLE — TAKE NOTE – HAVE THEY PROVOKED ANY SERIOUS DISCUSSION. IF NOT WHY?

>> IF SO, DID YOU DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO GET THOSE IN WASHINGTON TO INVESTIGATE AND ARREST THOSE WHO WILL NOT “CHANGE” AND BEGIN TO DO BUSINESS IN A LEGAL AND NON CORRUPT WAY?

>> WHY DIDNT THAT WORK?

IF YOU ARE NOT PLANNING ON THEM HOLDING ON TO POWER PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING:

A). WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE? WILL THEY BE YOU? OR THE LEADERS YOU HAVE NOT YET CHOSEN?

B). HOW WILL YOU ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO DO TAKE POWER ARE NOT CURRENTLY PART OF THE PROBLEM?

C). WHO WILL FUND THE UNIVERSITIES, HEALTHCARE, K-12 EDUCATION, HOMELESS, AND POOR WHILE A NEW SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO STABILIZE THE POPULATION, REPLACE THE CORRUPT SYSTEM OF CORPORATISM, BIG MEDICINE, BIG OIL AND BIG FARMS

D). WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE MILITARY AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

Notice how a large portion of these questions can be answered with "It doesn't loving matter".

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Emron posted:

If you read that story with no sense of irony or sarcasm then every word in it is correct.
B-b-but she's SINGLE! And a MOTHER! And, perhaps most grievous of all, a WOMAN!!

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

bairfanx posted:

So, I assume these "before the bear at him" and "and that _____ was Albert Einstein" are things from circulated emails I'm lucky enough not to get?
How is there anyone in this thread who hasn't read the Bear and the Atheist thread yet?

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Bombadilillo posted:

Jesus was a felon, he was so bad he got the death penalty.

:aaaaa: Holy gently caress

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
That whole Funny How YOU DON'T WANT TO FORWARD SOMETHING RELIGIOUS spiel has been around for at least 13 years. Much as he's a douche, Ben Stein had nothing to do with that.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

katlington posted:

Relying on untrained and unaccountable people to make judgment calls like this seems like a bad idea. Like forget about people being denied unfairly for a second, what about all the people who could be legally carrying who shouldn't be because the sheriff (their sister's husband's poker buddy) signed a form? Seems to me maybe a nation wide official policy on suitability checks is the best idea? Have trained professionals make the decision and stake their reputation on it like any other health worker.

Are you suggesting that maybe we ought to enforce limitations on who is permitted to carry guns, what kinds of guns they are permitted to carry, and the manner of which they are to carry them?

Perhaps some method of controlling the ownership of firearms, or "gun control"?

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
And let's not forget that government policy was directly responsible for the formation of monopolies and not literally the exact opposite.

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Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Job Truniht posted:

Libertarians like to constantly portray themselves as mature rational adults who argue with children because they are anything but. You're not going to get much out of this.

Arguments on the Internet are scarcely for the sake of the two people arguing, in my experience. Generally, the goal is to convince observers who may be straddling the fence as to whom they agree with, or simply aren't passionate enough to argue their position.

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