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the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
I love how the kids callously enjoy murder like they're hopped up on brown-brown or some poo poo.

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the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

quote:

In the last two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles.

:what:

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Isn't there some sort of cognitive dissonance involved when you rail against a government by calling them "fascist," "a dictatorship," and "nazi germany," and then openly support such legislation?

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

RagnarokAngel posted:

One must wonder how long this will go on. After Obama's left office, even after he dies, someone will still go "He wasn't a citizen, we need to repeal all laws that occured during his administration!"

Interesting. Let's say, hypothetically, that ten years after he leaves office it's revealed that he in fact wasn't a citizen.

What would or could actually happen with respect to laws passed?

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

quote:

So where are all the "Save the Gulf" concerts? Where are the TV Benefits
with celebrities and musicians giving heart felt speeches for the poor
fisherman, wildlife ,beaches, loss of income and sabotaged gulf
economy?I find it rather strange how these people (including
...our...own...government) are so quick to help Haiti and other countries
but sit on their @ss for this one. Just the facts. Post if you agree

Deadliest earthquake in the history of the poorest island in the world, killing 230,000, causing 300,000 injuries and making over a million homeless, completely destabilizing the country for many years to come?

Deadliest natural disaster in the history of the richest country in the world, causing a dozen deaths, an ecological crisis, and increasing the price of shrimp?

SAME. DIFFERENCE.

Also, I think they forgot Lenny Kravitz's benefit concert that already happened.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Has anyone ever had to actually press 1 for English? Whenever I call somewhere, it's always like "Thank you for calling _____. Para español, presione dos. Please listen to the following options: To check on your order... etc."

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

quote:

During the trip I also announced my upcoming engagement, to which he only replied, "Why are you doing that?" and stayed silent the rest of the way.

Please let this be to a person of the same sex.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
I wouldn't argue with a tour of military service in exchange for citizenship. If anything, it would train and educate many people looking to come into this country. We're not talking about just infantry either. Doctors, engineers, radio operators, etc.

However, that last bit about "SEND 'EM THERE ANYWAY WITH NO AMMO! HURR" just shows the real malice and hatred within the e-mail.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
It would be interesting also to see the reactions of conservatives.

What happens when you take an illegal immigrant, arguably one of the most hated and despised person in a conservative's mind, and change them into a U.S. Soldier, the most beloved and revered person in a conservative's mind?

How do they reconcile that?

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

quote:

If you agree, here's what I'm telling you to do
If not, here's what I'm telling you to do
Our Soldiers have preserved your right to make this choice!

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
The school became privatized and only rich White kids could attend it.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
My response to that would be that giant 40000 pixel advertisement that lists every horrible buzzword that was associated with the Bush Administration.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

crime fighting hog posted:

I'd like to see this actually.

I wish I could find it (anyone?). It was some graphic design piece created by someone that just listed every word that was associated with that presidency.

It was like:

IRAQ
KATRINA
ABRAMOFF
DO NOT RECALL

etc. and it went on forever

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
I hope Robert Dougan sues the maker of that video.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Ask him why he's not rich, and if he ever thinks he will be.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
It couldn't be France, because then they couldn't be legally wearing hijabs.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

Burrito posted:

Fine, then we'll go to the Greatest Generation. Surely World War 2 was when we overtook the rest of the world, there was no debt, taxes were low, and we were absolutely the major superpower of the world.





God drat facts getting in the way of my blissful fondness for days gone by :(

An overlay of those two graphs would be great.

It would put an end to "Higher taxes destroy the economy!" arguments.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Hooray

quote:

HEADLINES FROM THE YEAR: 2029

Ozone created by electric cars now killing millions in the seventh largest country in the world, Mexifornia, formerly known as California.

White minorities still trying to have English recognized as Mexifornia's third language.

Spotted Owl plague threatens northwestern United States crops and livestock.

Baby conceived naturally! Scientists stumped.

Couple petitions court to reinstate heterosexual marriage.

Iran still closed off; physicists estimate it will take at least 10 more years before radioactivity decreases to safe levels.

France pleads for global help after being taken over by Jamaica. No other country comes forward to help the beleaguered nation!

Castro finally dies at age 112; Cuban cigars can now be imported legally, but President Chelsea Clinton has banned all smoking.

Postal Service raises price of first class stamp to $17.89 and reduces mail delivery to Wednesdays only.

85-year $75.8 billion study: Diet and exercise is the key to weight loss.

Average weight of Americans drops to 250 lbs.

Global cooling blamed for citrus crop failure for third consecutive year in Mexifornia and Floruba.

Abortion clinics now available in every High School in United States.

Senate still blocking drilling in ANWR even though gas is selling for 4532 Pesos per liter and gas stations are only open on Tuesdays and Fridays.

Massachusetts executes last remaining conservative.

Supreme Court rules punishment of criminals violates their civil rights.

Average height of NBA players is now nine feet seven inches. Other requirement to play: player can only have 3 illegitimate children.

New federal law requires that all nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly swatters and rolled-up newspapers be registered by January 2030.

IRS sets lowest tax rate at 75 percent.

Floruba voters still having trouble with voting machines.

Now, send this to whomever you want and as many as you want, then, guess what....NOTHING will happen. No miracles, no money, absolutely nothing, except you might make someone smile or make them very very scared.

I Love This Country!
It's The Government That Scares The crap out of Me!

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
"No longer will we tolerate after school groups that allow people who have similar ethnocentric or socioeconomic backgrounds to meet in order to share their common goals, issues, and problems."

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Got a crazy forwarded political op/ed from your college newspaper? Post them here.

quote:

Biased professors pose problems

When you are planning to attend college, there are a few things you expect to encounter, like getting used to all your homework being posted online and having to manage your time. It is likely that you have walked into classes expecting some of your professors to be a little one-sided in their arguments. When you stick around for a couple years, you come to find out this troubling assumption is truer than you thought.

For students who have ever taken a political science course or the like, there tends to be a common trend among professors. For example, it seems to me that most of them probably voted for President Barack Obama during the elections. There is nothing wrong with voting for Obama, but if I am in a classroom to learn about politics in-depth, I am going to want both sides of the argument. Don’t get me wrong; not all professors are equal. There are plenty of great professors I’ve encountered who present non-biased arguments and make you think about both sides, but the main arguments that dominate lectures and debates in these classes are strongly Democratic. If we are to receive a proper education, we need to see how each political party -- Republican, Democrat or Independent -- views certain relevant issues.

For example, my introductory political science professor decided he would give a lecture and argument about the questions people raise about whether there is racism involved in the death penalty. He showed statistics and slides, but decided he would conclude the lecture with, "My examples are proof that the death penalty doesn’t work. Just look at Texas; they are gung-ho about the death penalty and yet they have one of the highest crime rates in the United States." As a student who has been taught never to simply take just anyone at their word, I made sure I checked his information before I commented. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Washington, D.C., counted among the states, has the highest crime rate in the U.S. Texas is at No. 16. I show him my data, after which he bellows through the classroom, "I don’t care!"

This kind of behavior was both immature and unnecessary. Being in position 16 on the list may not be an excellent crime rate, but it’s certainly not top 10 and certainly no Washington, D.C. When someone is so wrapped up in their side of the argument they can't even look at data, then they are simply impossible to persuade or even argue with.

Why bother? It’s just your education. I should have walked out of his class feeling refreshed and freed from my unjustified political notions, thankful he was there to show me, right? So I ask you as students, are you really going to question the answers or take everything at face value?

There are plenty of "nice" people out there who can sweetly tell you a boldface lie. One of the biggest parts of education and a part we tend to forget to mention is that we must learn how to interpret someone who may or may not have good intentions or all of their facts straight. Everyone makes mistakes, but watch out for the ones who are simply there to turn you into little robots for their political ideals.

Find ideals of your own. Go out and research on your own. Know your information so that when you are confronted, you are prepared to answer the questions honestly and credibly.

Not only are your conclusions wrong, but now you've publicly tried to call out the man in charge of grading your tests. Idiot.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
The fun thing to do is to actually try and engage people on their message.

"So, you claim he's 'full of bull-crap.' What has he said that has given you this opinion?"

"....."

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
I always have to ask but.... why are you friends with these people?

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Maybe she forwarded it without reading the contents while she was "first getting familiar with the internet."

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Because it legitimizes bigotry. It's alright for me to think Black kids are lazy and disrespectful because Bill Cosby does too, and he's a Black guy!

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
You could rewrite that, just replace all of the Conservative poo poo with "lack of education, inbreeding, slavery, hatred, bigotry" and the Liberal poo poo with, "open-mindedness, scientific progress, and pursuit of reason."

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Pretty much just send them this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States#Race_and_gender_disparities

It's hard to argue with empirical data, but I'm sure they'll try.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

crime fighting hog posted:

I notice they don't really tend to 'argue' so much as just dismiss any evidence contrary to their beliefs as wrong because it's not from Fox News.

quote:

Nationally, the government reported last month that median household incomes dipped to $49,777, the lowest since 1997, with the sharpest drop-offs in the Midwest and Northeast. Broken down by race, blacks had the biggest income losses, dropping to $32,584. They were followed by non-Hispanic whites, whose income fell to $54,461. Asian incomes remained flat at $65,469. Income among Hispanics edged higher but lagged whites significantly at $38,039.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/12/census-fast-growing-areas-big-income-drop/

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
I always ask people that, if it's such a sweet life being an illegal immigrant, why don't they renounce their citizenship? gently caress, I would if it meant I get all the free poo poo.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

Blarghalt posted:

Or cite how low your odds are of actually dying from a terrorist attack, or even a plane crash.

Are they more or less than dying of radiation exposure from repeated x-rays or contracting a virus from a hands-on inspection by a TSA official?

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Weiner had a good, albeit somewhat misunderstood, point during an interview with Fox News.

He was asked why he should tax the income that those people have earned. Why those people should pay a tax.

And he said, "We're not taxing them. They're dead. They're not being taxed."

And he's right. The people aren't being forced to pay a tax twice. The tax is levied against the heirs, the ones who didn't earn the income, who are simply getting a load of income at no loss to them.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
http://www.facebook.com/pages/DEAR-...85523370?v=wall

Crazy_facebook_postings.txt

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
Red states accept, on average, more federal subsidies and money than blue states. That means they're more socialist.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

quote:

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek

:irony:

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
There's something to be said about the fact that the only people who complain about assistance for the poor are never poor themselves.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
The first three of those facts aren't even remotely impressive.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
When you're fighting in a war you have to be "the good guy," at least in your own mind. This means you have to create a villain. I'm sure it's a way to rationalize the situation. "They're all evil Muslim terrorists. I'm the righteous person."

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
All of those negatives accurately describe the Bush administration and most Republicans.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
And if we shouldn't tax success, doesn't this mean that we shouldn't tax people who succeeded in becoming teachers?

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
From that article:

quote:

Nationally, they make on average $14,000 a year more than private-school K-12 teachers, a gap that gets even bigger when benefits are added to the total.

You could also read that as "public school teachers are underpaid, but they aren't paid as badly as private school teachers."

Ask him where the mansions are that public school teachers live in, and where they park their mercedes.

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Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

Pththya-lyi posted:

He genuinely believes that the free market is the best way to do things

Counterpoint: The banking industry in the past 4 years, unless he believes that was the fault of the government. Also: Monsanto, Standard Oil.

And ask him to define fascism.

Wikipedia posted:

Exaltation of violence, war, and militarism are central components of fascism, which fascists see as providing positive transformation in society, in providing spiritual renovation, education, instilling of a will to dominate in people's character, and creating national comradeship through the military service.

Fascists oppose liberalism (as a bourgeois movement) and Marxism (as a proletarian movement) for being exclusive economic class-based movements.

They believe that economic classes are not capable of properly governing a nation, and that a merit-based elite of experienced military persons must rule through regimenting a nation's forces of production and securing the nation's independence.

Italian fascists described expansionist imperialism as a necessity.

Fascist movements have commonly held social Darwinist views of nations, races, and societies. They argue that nations and races must purge themselves of socially and biologically weak or degenerate people, while simultaneously promoting the creation of strong people, in order to survive in a world defined by perpetual national and racial conflict.

Fascist states pursued policies of social indoctrination through propaganda in education and the media and regulation of the production of educational and media materials. Education was designed to glorify the fascist movement and inform students of its historical and political importance to the nation. It attempted to purge ideas that were not consistent with the beliefs of the fascist movement and to teach students to be obedient to the state. Therefore, fascism tends to be anti-intellectual.

The Fascist government in Italy banned literature on birth control and increased penalties for abortion in 1926, declaring both crimes against the state.

Fascism promoted principles of masculine heroism, militarism, and discipline and rejected cultural pluralism and multiculturalism.

Sounds more like modern conservatives to me.

the fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 15, 2011

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