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Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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quote:

REMEMBER THAT THEY PUT *MAX BAUCUS* IN CHARGE OF REFORMING HEALTH CARE? DO DNC SLOBS EVER *READ* ABOUT MAX BAUCUS? LOOK AT WHAT THE ANCIENT DEMON MAX BAUCUS IS DOING. GOD. JESUS. KIDDIN’ US? JOKING? ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO MAKE FUNNIES HERE? FUCKBEANS. gently caress. BEANS. BWAH.

FROM MY BASEMENT'S HEART I STAB AT THEE

TO THE LAST I SHALL GRAPPLE WITH THEE ON THE INTERNET MAX BAUCUS YOU ASSTARDED FUCKSPROCKET

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Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Tutankhramen posted:

My fake email:

You know about Barack Hussein Obama's radical African-American beliefs, right? Well here's something everyone, democrat or republican needs to know. My cousin's husband is an aide to senator who for obvious reasons I can't name. She told me that buried in the Obama health plan is an "affirmative action" clause. For some medical procedures blacks are given priority, because of their minority status. This means that if you are waiting in line in Obama's socialist DMV hospital, someone can skip in line ahead of you just because of race. If that is not racist I don't know what is.

Forward this to all your friends, this is what Comrade Obama is really about.

This really is not any more crazy than believing that the digital cable converter that you had to install on your old TV is a government-designed device to brainwash you. People actually believe this.

That's the problem I have with faking emails- I feel like in the long run it's not really doing anything useful. I mean, what do we all get if they're actually believed? No difference from today.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Plom Bar posted:

Out of context or not, your friend is a monumental tool.

And this whole "ECONOMICS IN ONE LESSON ECONOMICS IN ONE LESSON" business doesn't make him sound any more rational.

but economics doesn't exist. There is no such thing as "economics". Milton Friedman has a degree in nothing. Nothing.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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quote:

Simple logic should dictate that you cannot spend your way out of a recession. Did you know that the majority of “Cash for Clunkers” money is going to Toyota, Honda and Huyundi dealers, not Ford, GM or Chrysler. More jobs lost.

You don't turn a company around to future profitability simply by paying off all its debts, and you don't turn an economy around that way, either. You can turn your personal, consumer finances around that way, but that's because personal finance doesn't produce anything. Turning all of your efforts toward paying down debt is called bankruptcy.

In short, you do, in fact, spend your way out of debt.

Also, nearly all of the "foreign" cars above are produced in the US by American workers. Interestingly, the Cash for Clunkers program has been a great success in terms of Keynesian deficit stimulus. The government pays to incentivize those who otherwise would have waited to buy a new car, new cars are sold, people remain employed.

Typhoon Jim fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Aug 30, 2009

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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This is possibly the worst thing I have ever received in email. It blew my mind that some folks I know have moved from normal republican stuff into straight up A. Wyatt Mann territory.

Spelling Bee Champ posted:

OMG... this is soooo bad - but, unfortunately 'almost' true!



My name be Eboneesha Li Hernandez, an African Hispanic
Asiatic-American Girl who just got an award for being the
bess speler in class. I got 67% on the speling test and 30
points being black, 5 points for not bringin drugs into
class, 5 points for not bringin guns into class, and 5
points for not gettin pregnut during the cemester. It be
hard to beat a score of 120%. White dude who sit nex to me
is McGee from Ocala. He got a
95% on the test but no extra points on acount of he have the
same skin color as the opressirs of 150 years ago. Granny ax
me to thank all Dimocrafts and Liberuls for suportin
Afermative action. You be showin da way to true eqwallity. I
be gittin in medical skool nex an mabe I be yo doctor when
Barrac take over da healtcare in dis cuntry.

Typhoon Jim fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Sep 10, 2009

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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quote:

I have abondoned both parties, neither have our nation's best interest at heart, only personal agendas, power and re-election.

Baby's First Brush with Politics!

How old is this guy?

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Armyman25 posted:

the rich have always abused the poor, and that you can't do anything about it and we should just survive and not worry about it.

there is definitely hope for your dad; if he believes that the rich not only historically have abused the poor but that they continue to do so, he is one foot out of the grave

the problem is when people say "the rich have the right to abuse the poor". Focus on these kinds of sentiments when talking to him, as he seems to have some response to injustice.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Umph posted:

Blagh, hate this poo poo, just got one last week about how the native Americans called Obama "eagle too full of poo poo to fly", I deleted it

It's the political equivalent of jokes targeted at *insert minority here*.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Skallagrimsson posted:

This is one I got today from a friend on Facebook:
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I'm 63 and I’m Tired"
By Robert A. Hall

I'm 63.
Yes, I'm drat tired.

Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts State Senate.

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on. This is your chance to make a difference.

I await another blockbuster from Robert A Hall, "I'm 65 And Now I'm Collecting Social Security"

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Hutla posted:

God Bless Arizona

Arizona is many things, but looking at them on balance, I don't think blessed is one.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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tek79 posted:

This is hilarious. It's like he just took a bunch of poo poo that already exists and tosses in an occasional tidbit about using green energy, or locally grown produce. This is some 8th grade level thinking here.

in 8th grade my friends and I wanted to rule the world from Antarctica, whatever happened to the imagination of today's youth?

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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I would rather say happy christmas; merry christmas is so..... British.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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ljw1004 posted:

In Britain I've heard the NHS used often as a justification for higher taxes on cigarettes and alcohol.

We do the same drat thing here in the US and we don't even have national healthcare.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Deuce posted:

1 friend likes this.

:sigh:

It is altogether possible that some of your friends have joined it for trolling purposes.

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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ThePeteEffect posted:

Some searching yields some editorials on Palmisano's healthcare ideas, outside of the copy of that forward.

http://wistechnology.com/articles/7861/
http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/healthcare_solutions/article/smarter_healthcare_system.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43188.html

Here's the interview mentioned in the article: http://online.wsj.com/ad/article/viewpoints-palmisano.html (starts around 9:00)

Fraud is mentioned rarely in any of those sources. He pulls out a $200b mark out of thin air without even a passing reference at a source. Of course, the forward reads more like "drat [poor] people gaming the system!" It's often fraud/abuse of the system, and rarely things like medicine inflation that gets brought up when discussing healthcare costs.

The critical elements that seem left out here are, first, that's an estimate (correction: it's a ten year period in that article.) and second, really? IBM's gonna extract $200-$900b worth of value for free? They aren't even going to, say, (as an example of what might be) propose that every healthcare provider subscribe to an IBM-run healthcare management service forever? Without very specific details as to what IBM's plan is (which are, of course, secret, I'd imagine) there is no way to evaluate the fitness of this decision, which likely didn't even happen, given the source.

Also, it's very likely that a lot of these reforms are indeed happening already (remember Obama's mentions of an electronic health recordkeeping system a couple years back?)

Typhoon Jim fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Feb 2, 2011

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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Do you have any examples of stupid facebook stuff like that? Because maybe I just know smart people there (which is loving unlikely given my friends)

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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ClosedBSD posted:

Yeah, working for a boss like this is probably going to bite you in the rear end someday.

I'm not sure. Serious political opinions can be a sign of self-justifying zealotry, but also, some of the most interesting people I've ever met have known exactly what they want in terms of politics. Working with someone whose politics you disagree with but you respect in other terms is actually a good experience to have.

Calling Obama a coon, on the other hand, is indeed a bad sign (but people can just be ignorant sometimes)

Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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NatasDog posted:

Not an e-mail, but a response to a terrible FB post an old high school buddy of mine made. I replied to it with something along the lines of "I'd agree with you if even half of those things are true, but as always the reality is far less appealing than the sensationalism", which he promptly deleted. This irked me more than usual for some reason, so I came up with a more :words:y reply. Maybe a bit over the top, but I'm tired if this crap popping up on my facebook page.



I figured I spend enough time reading the stuff posted here I'd give something back.

This is a Bad Response. It's better to keep it short- it would have been more productive to say "Do you think that we should be taking our policies on immigration from North Korea and Afghanistan? What other policies of Kim Jong Il's do you think would have a particularly salutary effect on our national debt?"

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Typhoon Jim
Sep 20, 2004

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ErIog posted:

I had grown up in a very nice complete political vacuum that allowed me to be a staunch talk radio rear end in a top hat conservative from ages 12-17, then a libertarian for a few years, then a Democrat after that thanks to a girlfriend, and now finally a staunch progressive with anti-capitalist leanings thanks to this forum. I have stopped discussing politics with my parents. I love them to death, but I get too angry.

I used to be a big old conservative when I was a kid- my relatives would get me Rush Limbaugh books, and I listened to the Ollie North show on the radio (it was always hilarious how he'd talk about the "Special Persecutor". Learn to delete your email next time, Ollie.) It's really an easier ideology to have as a kid- it doesn't ask anything particularly difficult of you.

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