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Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

In a perfect and hilarious world, the laser would be easily defeated by a 20 dollar UV filter.

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Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

pwn posted:

Nikon has a current model in each class except pro full frame with 24p video. :smug:

On that note, when is Canon making a mid-level with video? As of right now you either have a Rebel or a 5/7D with nothing in-between. Although I guess the 7D is a de facto mid-level, so yeah. I wish I could find a rhyme or reason to model naming schema. Nikon hopping around between lower-end DXX to DXXXX, Canon stopping at 50D and going to late XD. I guess the next Nikon mid-level will be upper DXXXX? :confused:

I know this happened back in the film era too, with a lot of goofy Nikon model numbers in the 80s like N2020 and whatnot. Is there some overall pattern I'm missing or are they just making poo poo up as they go along.

I feel like canon are going to go with "marks" on the upper end while continue increasing the XXD and XXXD series. So, we'll see a 550D and a 60D, but a 7DmkII.

Has photography as a serious hobby ruined casually looking at pictures for everyone else? I can hardly look at facebook snapshots anymore. Also, whenever a friend links me to a babe I immediately try to guess what lighting is used and how to recreate the shot.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I know this girl who bought like ten CF cards for a backpacking trip, and I thought I might buy some from her just because she can't possibly be using all of them as she's just a casual photographer and I'm frequently running out of space with my new camera. So, it'd be a win win situation.

She apparently backed up all her photos to the cards.

Then accused me of thinking my "photography" was more important than her backups (that I didn't know she did when I asked her about buying them)

:psyduck:

So, are these chinese sellers on ebay with cheap CF cards legit?

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I was about to pull the trigger on some 8GB cards, but they suddenly jumped up by around 30% - I'll probably just go for two 4GB cards now.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

squidflakes posted:

I shot some pictures over the Halloween weekend of a girl dressed in the flight attendant costume from The Fifth Element on a corporate jet for that added "I'm on a jet" feel.

Not my best work, but there are some gems in there. Definitely a learning experience when it came to transitioning from the weak light inside the jet to the harsh arc-sodium lamps in the hangar. It made me wish my ABs had come in and blah blah blah. http://gallery.prairiesquid.com/v/onicon2009/t5e if you want to see some lovely pictures today.

ANYWAY...

After I put the gallery up the model asked if she could take a few and put them on myspace/DeviantArt/FB/etc. No problem there since these were basically loving around shots. What she posts though are pictures that are slightly cropped to remove my watermark, made contrasty as gently caress, and with her skin smoothed to that unnatural doll-like finish. On top of all that, she added some weird white cursive text with her website and a portion of my URL.

I'm still on the boarder of calling bullshit and telling her to take them down, and just letting it go.

Haha, poo poo. It's one thing to steal a photo and not give credit but actively ruining it with lovely effects is another thing entirely.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I have some spare google wave invites if any one would like them ... I feel more like giving to a dorkroom goon than one of the beggers in GBS.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

pwn posted:

I just missed one from a friend because I'm hardly online anymore, so if you'd be so kind :shobon:

Sent!

There is a terrible photography wave, and all in all I don't think wave is that good but it's fun to mess around in.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Dorkroom discussion wave is live.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Stregone posted:

How do you find it?

search this term "with:public dorkroom" and you should find it.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I laughed when she wanted him to use a UV filter.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007


Interesting how the only two guys on black backgrounds are Chavez and Ahmadinejad.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

A couple of the portraits are pretty distorted to the point of being unflattering but I guess if you're Platon you can get away with stuff like that.

I missed another black background - HoS of Turkmenistan.

The Mugabe picture is chilling - the commentary on that is awesome too.

Do any of you remember that shitstorm when the Atlantic published a portrait of McCain on the cover, that the photographer later blogged that she shot him badly on purpose?

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

brad industry posted:

He would own the images he took.

Isn't there a thing in regards to second shooters and assistants where the primary photographer owns the copyright? Is that built into the contract the assistant signs?

I remember something to do with the Olympics and some assistant getting credit for a shot that the primary shooter had the rights to, and it was seen as a nice gesture by the main shooter.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I should start demanding credit for all the pictures I take with friend's point and shoots when I'm out at a bar.

It's kind of awful how few people understand photographer's rights. My friend's dorm had some kind of thing were people could submit photos of the dorm and residents to be displayed and the email he received about it had this phrase - "So, please inform the photographers that they need to agree to giving up the so called copyright of the photo"

These images were also going to be sold as well.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

my wife got me an early Christmas present!

edit: evidently twitpic doesnt allow image linking



The cold dead eyes of that gorilla baby are terrifying.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

ZoCrowes, can I be your scuba/photography apprentice?

Your dad is badass.

I recently picked up a nikonos V, but didn't have the opportunity to take it scuba diving - just did poo poo off the beach with low visibility in the water. The most compelling subject was my fin.

If any one is curious I could take some pictures of the nikonos V.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

squidflakes posted:

Someone really should start an underwater photography thread...

I vote ZoCrowes do it.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

ZoCrowes posted:

You're European correct? I've been contemplating a move for the past few years. You put me up and you have yourself a deal! A while back you asked me about AIM and I don't actually get on there much anymore. If you want to get in touch to with me to talk diving and such just drop me a line at chrispscott (at) gmail (dot) com.

I'm down for starting an Underwater Photo thread. I'll write up an OP at work tomorrow if no one has any objections.

Squidflakes - I believe that's an original Nikonos actually. Dad can't remember because he had more than a few over the years.

Cool, I'll pop you an email now. I literally have nobody to talk diving with at the moment. I managed to talk my friend into doing a "discover dive" but his mom had a huge shitfit about him diving. Not because she thought it was dangerous, but she thought it would affect his ambition to go "down" rather than "up."

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I remember reading an Arthur C. Clarke book a few weeks ago in which one of the main characters was developing some film thinking to himself that although they were on a moon base photography hadn't changed at all in the last 200 years.

I feel like the main thing keeping photography from advancing in huge dramatic leaps is the investment the big electronics companies are making in specific systems. It's in their best interest to keep the SLR platform going.

Of course, there is also the fact that we've had the capacity to produce stunning images for the last fifty years and if you look at photography's product rather than the method there is no real reason to change it dramatically.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I know all you scrubs probably have the big picture in your RSS feeds, but the recent one was pretty interesting - http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/02/backstage_at_fashion_week.html

A lot of gear porn.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

RangerScum posted:

The reflector that the model is holding in picture 20 looks like some tin-foil home-made poo poo.

haha, it's a hilarious picture just because you so rarely see "behind the scenes" of a picture.

Is the thing in pic 28 a video stabilizer?

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

So, I was eating in a chinese restaurant yesterday and couldn't help but overhear the guy in the next booth talking about how he was looking for a photography assistant. Fortunately, I didn't interject and offer my services like my initial reaction was.

Continuing to eavesdrop he sounded like a huuuuge douche. Apparently his ideal assistant (he was describing it to his dinner companion) is to be young (16 years old was perfect apparently), sexy, willing to carry heavy things, and female.

:psyduck:

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

spog posted:

And the problem with this is....?

I am just disappointed that an apparently successful fashion photographer had to resort to hiring 16 year old girls as assistants to perv on.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

spog posted:

To be fair, most successful fashion models have a tendency to look like a bag of bones with all the sexual appeal of a coatrack.


But to drift back to seriousness, I've always wondered about the disconnect between what is considered 'attractive' in the fashion world, compared the the glamour world.

Just think of the difference between the mindset of fashion designers and the editors of playboy, maxim etc.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

nonanone posted:

I think it's primarily because it's what makes the clothes look best (thinner, taller frames), and fashion people tend to like more unique and striking faces rather than the same old same old. Also, a lot of the models look amazingly normal or even uglyish without all the intensive hair and makeup and clothes.

You should start a fashion thread, nonanone.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

nonanone posted:

Sure, could do one...anything you'd like to hear about particular, keeping in mind that I'm not in the major cogs of the industry?

Just a place for discussion and pics would be good. I'm pretty sure we could sustain a thread without it disappearing too quickly.

Your stuff is super good, and it'd be definitely interesting to hear more about your perspective in how you shoot, and what you look to shoot when taking fashion photographs.

Also, I took some pics at London's fashion week and want a place to post them!

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

torgeaux posted:

Dumbest. Idea. Ever.

http://cloakbags.com/

haha, they use the wrong spelling of discreet in the urls too.

In a similar vein I always am astonished by the shoot sac - http://shootsac.com/thebasicshootsac.aspx

Paragon8 fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Feb 25, 2010

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007


'This worm was actually visible under the skin of my foot and would move at night. It became a game to find the worm in my foot each morning'

This guy deserves any award he wins.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Does any photography really have a great benefit to humanity?

There is something to be said for taking a photo in a way that nobody else has taken, and for some people it absolutely is worth the hassle to do it - not just monetarily. I would imagine that this story will help boost the popularity of it quite a bit.

e - oh god daily mail comments. so terrible. There's a reason why I swore never to look at the Daily Mail :(

Paragon8 fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Mar 7, 2010

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

wetsuits aren't watertight, and even if they were - I'd imagine no matter what environmental protection you had, after three months of spending three hours a day in the pond you would end up with something.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

There's a lot of being in the right place at the right time.

There's some young guy - Ed something. He was doing a degree in poly/sci in either Beirut or Tel Aviv, not sure which. Of course the 2006 Israel/Hezbollah war happened while he was there. He was able to leverage his pictures from that into all kinds of future jobs.

He's a good photographer, but luck was a huge factor in him taking the next level.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I dunno, full frame is still held up as the pinnacle of SLR quality by "serious" amateurs. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. It seems like Nikon and Canon are committed to supporting two sensor sizes for the next few years at least.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

evil_bunnY posted:

No one's saying they'll stop making FF sensors. It's just hilariously hard to make big honking sensors efficiently.

I think the point orange lime was making was more about APS-C becoming a standard in terms of photography like the 35mm film SLR was largely because of units shipped.

I think the main thing hindering the APS-C from being the "standard" in photography even though it's the overwhelming majority in terms of units sold is just that photography as a practice is still largely traditional even if the technology is innovating. A huge part of the photography community I assume are the guys in their 50s and 60s who got into the hobby shooting film and use that as the gold standard for when the talk about gear and occasionally meet up in a camera club to shoot some poor girl in her underwear.

Even if you look at most photographers under 25, they typically do a lot of experimenting with film even if it is just holgas and dianas. Nostalgia is really strong in a lot of photographers, which is perhaps to the detriment of the technical development of photography.

Hell, just look at how far dSLRs have come in the past 10 years. Pretty impressive.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

brad industry posted:

Canon dug themselves into a hole with EF-S, they can't abandon smaller format cameras now.

I think chip size (and ISO by extension) is going to matter a lot more in future cameras now that megapixels have reached the point more-isn't-necessarily-better.

I wonder if medium format cameras will ever be consumer affordable, but it doesn't sound like it because of the way the chips are made.

Yeah, I think a big part is also is the companies realizing that even if they do make a consumer affordable medium format camera their profit margin is going to be a lot less than an APS-C or even 35mm sensor.

The ISO war is definitely the new megapixel war. It'll be interesting how they approach it due to the technical difficulties involved.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Haggins posted:

Why? The war is good for us as we'll get sensors with better low light capabilities out of it. Sure we're hitting a peak with MPs on a 35mm frame but there is a lot that can be done to lower noise.

We hope it'll be good for us. I imagine in practice it might work out to be adding an unusable stop of ISO, just to be able to advertise a higher Max.

I'm not sure why my S90 goes up to 3200 when my old rebel only did 1600 (shittily at that) - I haven't tested it at 3200 yet, but I can't imagine the results will be encouraging.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

What I was trying to say is that usually the upper ISO levels on cameras are almost unusable, and the ISO wars might just end up adding more useless levels just for the sake of competition rather than making the lower ranges usable.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

torgeaux posted:

Not quite. You said


If you are referring to 35mm the focal length, we're in agreement. If you meant, as had been used earlier in the conversation, 35mm as a film size, it's starkly different.

If you were using 35mm as a focal length, then while we agree, I'd suggest you use a different focal length to make the point, given its confusion with the film/sensor size. Your use of "crop body to full-frame" made me think you meant 35mm as sensor size, though.


edit: I raise this because so many people do the "equivalency" thing, with 35mm film as the "base" field of view. It's a great shortcut for people who know how it works, but it's really misleading to the new folks in photography.

You agree with him. This whole debate started when orange lime pulled ZoCrowes' post about getting a 35-70mm f2.8 lens and saying he didn't shoot wider than 35mm.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

brad industry posted:

It's just about the move to digital distribution and away from print. There are more possibilities for content beyond picture+words. Look at what Wired is doing with their iPad application, that is the future of editorial.

I just saw this this morning, another example of how editorial contributors are going to be making more content as companions for digital:

http://www.rachelhulin.com/blog/2010/03/go-shop-with-jennifer.html

Gerard Butler looks really angry to be in those pictures.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

DRP Solved! posted:

That was amazing. Even my girlfriend said "What the hell, who uses a Rebel with the kit lens and calls themselves a professional wedding photographer"?

In all fairness I've seen some fantastic wedding photography taken with a rebel and a 50mm f1.8. Certainly not the photographers in that video though.

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Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

McMadCow posted:

If any Bay Area Dorkroomers are into checking out a local exhibit, I have about a half dozen pictures up as part of a group show. The opening is Friday 3-19 at 7PM at the Backstage Salon and Gallery on Polk Street in SF between Broadway and Vallejo.



Dude, congrats. Must be quite a thrill. I'll pass the info to a friend of mine in SF, seems like he'd dig it.

Guys, be careful posting your heights on the internet - gotta be wary about identity theft!

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