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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

You've heard that Cherry doesn't make greens (nor clears) compatible with RGB eh? You can get single colour backlighting.

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ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007

chippy posted:

The replacement USB board for my CODE arrived, but instead of the promised case opening tool, they sent a key puller with it. Not sure I have a use for yet another of those!

Does anyone know the best/easiest way to get into a WASD keyboard (TKL) without the tool? Am I likely to break the clips if I try without one?

Hold the key puller in your hand, look at the wire end, then look at the other end that flattens into a plastic shim.

They sent the right tool.

Clanpot Shake
Aug 10, 2006
shake shake!

Eric the Mauve posted:

Definitely go with blue switches at work, announce your presence with loving authority.

This is me. It helps if you sell your co-workers on the virtues of mechanicals. We went from 0 to 4 on our 6 person team in just a few months.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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surebet posted:

:siren: maxkey is now setup to run custom legends :siren:

new set on zfrontier, a few things before the reveal:
- the colors are... loud and weird
- they've stopped bundling the weird cherry novelties like they've been doing for a while, it's a new set of theme appropriate novs
- per the render. i think the set should have the same redundancies as mine
- it's $10 more than mine, presumably because of the novelties
- no idea why this isn't green
- turn around is getting shorter with a 2 month target cycle this time

maxkey sa nuclear




https://en.zfrontier.com/products/maxkey-sa-nuclear

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


The E=mc2 enter cap is so ugly. It's the main reason I'm not hopping onto that.

Also, one of my coworkers is going crazy about my browns. I almost want to switch to blues because of this.

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

ColHannibal posted:

Hold the key puller in your hand, look at the wire end, then look at the other end that flattens into a plastic shim.

They sent the right tool.

Yeah, I did consider that, but thought it didn't look like it flattened out quite enough. This was confirmed when I emailed WASD and they told me that it was the right tool, but that I'd probably need to file it down a bit to make it thin enough (so, not the right tool then really). I've ordered some decent spudgers instead. I also found it quite weird that the guy said to me "we'll also send you a case opening tool" instead of "if you still have the key puller that came with the keyboard [I do] you can use that to get into the case, otherwise we can send you another one." Might have caused less confusion.

chippy fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Jun 13, 2017

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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LochNessMonster posted:

The E=mc2 enter cap is so ugly. It's the main reason I'm not hopping onto that.

Also, one of my coworkers is going crazy about my browns. I almost want to switch to blues because of this.

i honestly can't defend that set except to say that this is the first time they've done new novelties. everything else has a recolor of the same set of keys, novelties included

it looks like poo poo, you shouldn't buy it unless you're blind, but i wanted to post it to show what things are coming along with custom molds

Phosphine
May 30, 2011

WHY, JUDY?! WHY?!
🤰🐰🆚🥪🦊
Do any of the bigger/common places to get keyboards and/or caps have other layouts? The massdrop capsets don't believe in ÅÄÖ, and our Nordic Layout keyboards aren't just different keycaps but generally a different amount of keys with different sizes (We have a smaller left shift and an extra key between z and shift, which is not commonly found on US layouts). Big name gaming keyboards (Razer, Corsair) etc exist in nordic layouts, but I haven't found anything like the Anne Pro or so with Nordic.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


surebet posted:

i honestly can't defend that set except to say that this is the first time they've done new novelties. everything else has a recolor of the same set of keys, novelties included

it looks like poo poo, you shouldn't buy it unless you're blind, but i wanted to post it to show what things are coming along with custom molds

I saw it yesterday while browsing zfrontier but thought it had been on there for longer. Didn't realize it was a nuclear data inspired set tbh. And I don't even mind the colour set, the alphas look pretty sweet but the combination with the modifiers is meh.

I'm pretty happy to see the short time window as well the fact they're pumping out 'new' sets this quick. I hoped China would smell the money that GMK/SP are leaving on the table with the insane wait times, and it appears they did.

I'm in serious doubt of building my own ergo thanks to your earlier post btw.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

...I love the Cherry MX Greens. But I'm going to assume the click would be annoying as gently caress to anyone else. I effortlessly no longer bottom keys out, besides the spacebar. It just feels "right".

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars

teethgrinder posted:

...I love the Cherry MX Greens. But I'm going to assume the click would be annoying as gently caress to anyone else. I effortlessly no longer bottom keys out, besides the spacebar. It just feels "right".

Know the joy and light.

I just wish that light was RGB.

teraflame
Jan 7, 2009
What is with the fascination for artisan keycaps? Most of them are ugly as hell tbh and look so out of place on a kb. If they were cute or from notable IP I'd understand but meh...

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars

teraflame posted:

What is with the fascination for artisan keycaps? Most of them are ugly as hell tbh and look so out of place on a kb. If they were cute or from notable IP I'd understand but meh...

OK, gotta agree here. The only time I've seen vaguely interesting artisan keycaps is one the ones made of wood, and mostly because I'm curious about how that changes the typing feel.

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Jan 10, 2013

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LochNessMonster posted:

I'm in serious doubt of building my own ergo thanks to your earlier post btw.

the massdrop kit or any other presoldered units require pretty trivial case assembly, so don't fret if you don't want to scratch build one, just keep an eye out for when it launches

you can hit "request" and it'll email you when it's back up
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-ergodox

teethgrinder posted:

...I love the Cherry MX Greens. But I'm going to assume the click would be annoying as gently caress to anyone else. I effortlessly no longer bottom keys out, besides the spacebar. It just feels "right".

you know that guy in the office with the really clicky mouse? that, but 200+ times a minute. i love me some loud clicky clacky keyboards, but it's not viable in open space workplaces. i've managed a few offices with incredibly permissive bring-your-own-hardware policies, but anything running something else than reds/browns/clears or an equivalent was immediately verboten.

if i had to refit a floor today, i'd probably go for something topre with the thickest pbt caps i could find, it's crazy what kind of difference it makes in close quarters

Weedle
May 31, 2006




teraflame posted:

What is with the fascination for artisan keycaps? Most of them are ugly as hell tbh and look so out of place on a kb. If they were cute or from notable IP I'd understand but meh...

I've never understood it either. I do like these ones from Jelly Key (I think they're called Oasis) because they're pretty and shaped like actual keys, but I can't imagine why people want to put turtles and monster faces and poo poo all over their keyboard.

Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats :toot:
The only ones I've seen that I really liked were these that were recently posted on reddit

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

teraflame posted:

What is with the fascination for artisan keycaps? Most of them are ugly as hell tbh and look so out of place on a kb. If they were cute or from notable IP I'd understand but meh...

I honestly think people get them just to seem cool on reddit. The rama works ones are pretty cool I guess, but not for that price.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




wouldn't they be super uncomfortable to use? A lot are 3d molds that have risen parts. I see them used for ESC a lot which just seems silly, because that's a key you always open-palm slam. The bumps would probably not feel very good.

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Jan 10, 2013

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pictured: anywhere between 2k and 10k of ~collectible value~


the red cherry escape key thing also always made me laugh
http://imgur.com/a/XUG9X

artisan caps are fine as a general idea, but lol @ the idea of spending $100+ on a single key to cement your ultra nerd status

Clanpot Shake
Aug 10, 2006
shake shake!

Weedle posted:

I've never understood it either. I do like these ones from Jelly Key (I think they're called Oasis) because they're pretty and shaped like actual keys, but I can't imagine why people want to put turtles and monster faces and poo poo all over their keyboard.



This is gorgeous. Looks like all of their stuff is out of stock though. I'd be tempted if they weren't.

That imgur gallery is right about thinking of these as buying art, rather than investing.

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Jan 10, 2013

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that layered wood & epoxy/glass look is indeed quite nice, however unless it's your esc key it's going to be quite difficult to see it well in a regular row

significantly more expensive, but i'd rather go with a bigger thing in that style and have it as a desk decoration:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/590816044836775138/

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

surebet posted:

that layered wood & epoxy/glass look is indeed quite nice, however unless it's your esc key it's going to be quite difficult to see it well in a regular row

significantly more expensive, but i'd rather go with a bigger thing in that style and have it as a desk decoration:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/590816044836775138/

Eat poo poo anyone selling a product and not showing a price. Well you got a website, nice pictures, you mention if it's sold but you're too good to put a price on it? gently caress you.

http://brokenliquid.com/projects

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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https://www.artsy.net/artwork/ben-young-stranded

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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however that's with concrete and watercut glass, something smaller that uses balsa wood & colored epoxy should run much cheaper

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

surebet posted:

however that's with concrete and watercut glass, something smaller that uses balsa wood & colored epoxy should run much cheaper

Thanks, that beats nothing but my cusory look didn't find that gallery who listed prices. When I was looking for custom furniture you'd get places that wouldn't even put up an estimate and it irks me. I also don't like mystery health care prices but as an American that's to be expected.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Jun 15, 2017

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Jan 10, 2013

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Phosphine posted:

Do any of the bigger/common places to get keyboards and/or caps have other layouts? The massdrop capsets don't believe in ÅÄÖ, and our Nordic Layout keyboards aren't just different keycaps but generally a different amount of keys with different sizes (We have a smaller left shift and an extra key between z and shift, which is not commonly found on US layouts). Big name gaming keyboards (Razer, Corsair) etc exist in nordic layouts, but I haven't found anything like the Anne Pro or so with Nordic.

granite covers it, i think:


the 1.25u shift key is already supported in the base modifier kit. you'll also need to grab an iso enter key. add whatever other subkits you like afterwards.

http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-granite-keyset/

problem with granite is that it's fairly expensive and not run very often so sign up for notifications if it interests you.

what you're running is the iso 105-88 layout if it helps:

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Going to keep the Greens for home, but definitely just "for fun".

I never bought the "linear is better for gaming" thing, but I have to say that while I don't mind playing games with Clears, it feels really weird with Greens.

(I had Cherry MX Blacks for a "gaming keyboard" and I just loving hated them ... just too mushy to me for all purposes. I can't see how Reds would have been better.)

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

teethgrinder posted:

Going to keep the Greens for home, but definitely just "for fun".

I never bought the "linear is better for gaming" thing, but I have to say that while I don't mind playing games with Clears, it feels really weird with Greens.

(I had Cherry MX Blacks for a "gaming keyboard" and I just loving hated them ... just too mushy to me for all purposes. I can't see how Reds would have been better.)

You get used to it. I gamed with a Model M for 12 years or so then some blues for a year then greens for three or four years. The folks who think linear is for this and clicky is for that usually just have opinions that are more based on the idea of how things work than the reality of being used to a switch type makes it normal.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Rexxed posted:

You get used to it. I gamed with a Model M for 12 years or so then some blues for a year then greens for three or four years. The folks who think linear is for this and clicky is for that usually just have opinions that are more based on the idea of how things work than the reality of being used to a switch type makes it normal.

Really the main reason blues and greens are weird for gaming is cause the reset point is different (and higher) than the actuation point which is not the case for clears or browns or the linear switches.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:
There's a kickstarter.com for a fully assembled whitefox keyboard with some new switches they've designed : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekashman/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard.

At 169, this is honestly pretty tempting... No delivery till December, but I guess that isn't too out of the ordinary for keyboards anyway.

Samfucius
Sep 8, 2010

And if you gaze long enough into a nest, the nest will gaze back into you.
I've been rocking a G19 for almost a decade now, and even though it still works well the WASD keys are getting really mushy (apparently I use A more than D, which is kinda interesting) and I have really enjoyed the mechanical boards I've messed around with. I've looked at some Corsairs, but before I pull the trigger on this guy, I wanted to ask you guys. This subforum was really helpful building my last PC, thought you might know a thing or two about keyboards as well.

Here are my requirements:
*Under $200 (I plan on using this for another decade, I type a lot, game a lot, and program on occasion, but I don't see the point of those custom Korean jobs)
*Needs a numpad
*No blank keys
*Backlit keys/easy to see in low-light

Here are things I like:
*No macro keys if possible, I learned from my G19 that I never ever use them
*Media keys
*I like the idea of playing with keysets, so standard configs are nice. Not a high priority. Isn't the k70 bottom-row slightly non-standard? You can see I don't really know my stuff.

I've never bought a mechanical board before, so I'm not sure yet as to my exact switch preference. My gf's keyboard uses Cherry Reds, it seems great to me. Noise isn't an issue to me.

I'm basically seeing if someone sees my preferences and says "gently caress yeah, I know exactly the thing!"

GokieKS
Dec 15, 2012

Mostly Harmless.
Apparently Input Club is doing a 90% keyboard with a Cherry 1800-esque layout. Assuming that I like the Leopold FC980C (getting here tomorrow!), I might have to get one of those to try out their Halo True/Clear switches.

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars

Samfucius posted:

I've been rocking a G19 for almost a decade now, and even though it still works well the WASD keys are getting really mushy (apparently I use A more than D, which is kinda interesting) and I have really enjoyed the mechanical boards I've messed around with. I've looked at some Corsairs, but before I pull the trigger on this guy, I wanted to ask you guys. This subforum was really helpful building my last PC, thought you might know a thing or two about keyboards as well.

Here are my requirements:
*Under $200 (I plan on using this for another decade, I type a lot, game a lot, and program on occasion, but I don't see the point of those custom Korean jobs)
*Needs a numpad
*No blank keys
*Backlit keys/easy to see in low-light

Here are things I like:
*No macro keys if possible, I learned from my G19 that I never ever use them
*Media keys
*I like the idea of playing with keysets, so standard configs are nice. Not a high priority. Isn't the k70 bottom-row slightly non-standard? You can see I don't really know my stuff.

I've never bought a mechanical board before, so I'm not sure yet as to my exact switch preference. My gf's keyboard uses Cherry Reds, it seems great to me. Noise isn't an issue to me.

I'm basically seeing if someone sees my preferences and says "gently caress yeah, I know exactly the thing!"

The MK Fission has almost all of those features for 50 dollars less as long as you're not married to RGB lighting under every key. (It has a monocolor light under the average key RGB lighting around the edge)

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Samfucius posted:

I've been rocking a G19 for almost a decade now, and even though it still works well the WASD keys are getting really mushy (apparently I use A more than D, which is kinda interesting) and I have really enjoyed the mechanical boards I've messed around with. I've looked at some Corsairs, but before I pull the trigger on this guy, I wanted to ask you guys. This subforum was really helpful building my last PC, thought you might know a thing or two about keyboards as well.

Here are my requirements:
*Under $200 (I plan on using this for another decade, I type a lot, game a lot, and program on occasion, but I don't see the point of those custom Korean jobs)
*Needs a numpad
*No blank keys
*Backlit keys/easy to see in low-light

Here are things I like:
*No macro keys if possible, I learned from my G19 that I never ever use them
*Media keys
*I like the idea of playing with keysets, so standard configs are nice. Not a high priority. Isn't the k70 bottom-row slightly non-standard? You can see I don't really know my stuff.

I've never bought a mechanical board before, so I'm not sure yet as to my exact switch preference. My gf's keyboard uses Cherry Reds, it seems great to me. Noise isn't an issue to me.

I'm basically seeing if someone sees my preferences and says "gently caress yeah, I know exactly the thing!"

gently caress yeah, i know exactly the thing!

first, you are indeed right, corsair runs non-standard bottom row mods, so while it's not impossible to get aftermarket caps, it does add an extra layer of cost/complications

second, give the code keyboard some serious consideration. i've gone through a fair amount of keyboards and given the choice i will either rock a vintage ibm model m or a code with clears.

  • they're very well built
  • the company behind them has decent support
  • if you gently caress up and spill your preferred goon beverage on them you can service them and get replacement parts
  • they run a 100% standard ansi layout
  • they come in all the flavors of cherry switches with a solid white backlight (or save a couple bucks opting out of the backlight with the wasd version)
  • they can use the home cluster as media keys
  • they're available in a full-size, 104 layout with numpad
  • they're 6kro + alt/ctrl/shift mods over usb, nkro over ps/2
  • minimalist look with decent caps, something you won't be ashamed to bring at the office
  • standard cherry switch stems so you can barbie up your keeb to your heart's content

at around $150 msrp, it's comfortably within your budget, if you're willing to wait you might shave :20bux: when it goes on sale. it's a serious piece to get serious poo poo done, all the while plenty good for those late night game sessions.

since i spend 70% of my time on old time-y buckling spring boards, clears were the only choice for me, but you might want to check what your local demo options look like. reach out to mech owning friends (who will undoubtedly be delighted to share their keyboard spergery with you) or check out the local electronics store to see if they have gamer corsairs & logitechs your could poke at on the floor.

cherry switches come in 3 major types
- linear: no feedback, main type is red, variants in speed (shorter actuation point) and black (heavier spring)
- tactile: slight bump on a keypress to let you know it activated, main type is brown, variant is clear (heavier spring)
- clicky: slight bump + audible click (think mouse click) on activation, main type is blue, variant is green (heavier spring)

clicky is great for coding & writing, assuming no one is around to murder you because of a noise induced psychotic break. since the little plastic piece that produces the sound needs to return to battery in between presses, they can cause some issues in crazy high apm games since the reset point is a bit higher than the actuation point. if you're a filthy casual like me, you wouldn't be bothered though.

linear is the preferred type for gamers, but that's mostly marketing imho. if you're going mechanical, i feel like you're depriving yourself of part of the experience going linear, but at the end of the day if it feels better to you, go for it, you're the one poking at it.

tactile is a good compromise, although a bit harder to source since they're less popular.

whatever switch you end up going for, the code is a great board and it's the default yospos keeb recommendation.

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obligatory repost:

surebet posted:

the reference brand is cherry and they basically come in 3 types:
linear (reds being most common, with silent red & black showing up once in a while)
arguably better for high apm or twitchy gaming


tactile (brown being most common, clear also available)
great for general typing & gaming


clicky (blue being the most common, greens sometimes showing up)
also great for anything, but be aware that they're noisy as all gently caress especially in a cheap casing

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

surebet posted:

gently caress yeah, i know exactly the thing!

first, you are indeed right, corsair runs non-standard bottom row mods, so while it's not impossible to get aftermarket caps, it does add an extra layer of cost/complications

second, give the code keyboard some serious consideration. i've gone through a fair amount of keyboards and given the choice i will either rock a vintage ibm model m or a code with clears.

  • they're very well built
  • the company behind them has decent support
  • if you gently caress up and spill your preferred goon beverage on them you can service them and get replacement parts
  • they run a 100% standard ansi layout
  • they come in all the flavors of cherry switches with a solid white backlight (or save a couple bucks opting out of the backlight with the wasd version)
  • they can use the home cluster as media keys
  • they're available in a full-size, 104 layout with numpad
  • they're 6kro + alt/ctrl/shift mods over usb, nkro over ps/2
  • minimalist look with decent caps, something you won't be ashamed to bring at the office
  • standard cherry switch stems so you can barbie up your keeb to your heart's content

at around $150 msrp, it's comfortably within your budget, if you're willing to wait you might shave :20bux: when it goes on sale. it's a serious piece to get serious poo poo done, all the while plenty good for those late night game sessions.
I should add that there's currently a MD drop for the CODE Fullsize for USD130 (+10 for Clears)
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/code-keyboard-fullsize which is a little cheaper than the WASD website - shipping date is July 25, 2017, though so if you want to get it a bit quicker probably best to go to the shop.

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The Deadly Hume posted:

I should add that there's currently a MD drop for the CODE Fullsize for USD130 (+10 for Clears)
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/code-keyboard-fullsize which is a little cheaper than the WASD website - shipping date is July 25, 2017, though so if you want to get it a bit quicker probably best to go to the shop.

well there you go

also it ships free via massdrop, versus ~$15 through wasd, so you're saving a mad stack of :20bux::10bux:

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.
So, the Maxkey Portland's came in and drat, these being my first SA profile keycap set, I can definitely see the appeal. I have it on a cheap hotswappable mech keyboard with cheap Outemu blues for now, but they feel pretty drat good.

GokieKS
Dec 15, 2012

Mostly Harmless.
Got the Leopold FC980C - first impressions:

  • The Topre switches (45g) are good - feels nice, has the slight tactile feedback when actuated, and quieter than any other mechanical keyboard I own (which are mostly MX Clears and Browns).
  • Having a DIP switch for swapping the left side Alt/Win keys is great as a Mac user. It's one of my favorite features on the CODE, so really glad it's here too. It also has switches to swap Ctrl/Caps Lock, right side Win/FN, and (I think) disable Win key (the manual is in Korean). Not expecting to ever need/use any of them.
  • Layout seems mostly fine. Arrow keys location is different from what I'm used to, but It shouldn't be hard to adjust. The Win key in the Ctrl/Win/Alt cluster being smaller than the other two is not my preference, but it's probably necessary to be able to fit in the arrow key, so it's not a big deal (especially if I don't replace the keycaps). The Del/Ins/PgUp/PgDn keys being above the numpad will take a bit more getting used to, but the only one I actually use with any regularity is Del, and the location of that is not too different from a normal full-size keyboard.
  • The PBT keycaps feel quite good. Not sure about the keycap legends though - they're so dark as to be nearly illegible. I feel like they might as well have just gone with blank keycaps. Being Topre, I'm probably not going to replace these, but I knew that going in, so it's a minor annoyance at best.

Will see how my opinions change as I keep using it, but so far I'm liking it a lot.

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redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I just got a keyboard. It has Cherry Browns and I bought it because I loved the fonts on the keys. It's this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N23BAFB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

All I can say is I haven't liked a keyboard this much in a long time. I'm not that picky admittedly. Nice fonts, metal construction. Backlighting if possible (this one has none but the fonts are sex to my eyes). I can type really fast with this sucker which is the point right?

Anyways its an iKBC C1034 PBT (Poker?). I know nothing about keyboard brands but I like this one a lot.

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