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UltraShame posted:I'm looking for TBT games that allow for improvisation, customization or have flexible enough systems that allow for such. Preferably with a 3D \ multidimensional battleground. Not sure how well it'll fit what you're after, but you may want to at least look a bit into Battle Brothers. You manage a band of mercenaries and play tactical battles. The presentation doesn't look like much but the visual information you get from battle graphics at a glance is incredible (weapons, status of armour, ammo, injuries..) and the battles are excellent, even with the relatively limited choice of actions. It's not every game that allows you to release your hound to hunt down the fleeing enemies. The hex battle maps have individual tile elevation and it does play a critical role in terms of movement and combat. The main caveat is that in between battles, you move your warband on the procgen map, looking for towns or battles. Towns allow you to recruit, gear up, do some trade and get quests, looking for trouble on map allows you to raid monster camps, dungeons, caravans, villages, patrols... It's a big sandbox and you need to get involved with it, the game won't take you from one battle to the next in straight missions. Kind of a turn-based Mount and Blade without the kingdom stuff. If that's not a showstopper, take a look at it, because the battles are good, you get to mostly choose your challenges, and the whole making the best of your lot with gear and level up skills makes every new game different in addition to the random map layout.
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I think Solasta also fits the requirements well.
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What about the Expeditions (Conquistador, Vikings, presumably Rome, though I haven't tried that one) series? The turn-based combat system isn't too bad, and there's a fair amount of party customization/leveling IIRC.
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UltraShame posted:I really liked Divinity Original Sin 2 and Baldur's gate 3. This has caused me to dip into a genre that I have never really played before: Turn Based Tactics. It's essentially bite-sized turn based CRPG fights. Gimme that distilled CRPG battle. Aarklash Legacy may well be the game for you. It has virtually no story and just enough lore to make the 8 characters distinct; minimal loot and exploration and no side quests. What it is all about is amazing battles that will require you to plan and execute a precise strategy, and skill trees that let you create interesting synergies between your selected characters. And you'll need those synergies to survive the nasty powers that some bosses can pop up. One thing is, it's a RTWP system, like BG2, not turn-based like BG3, which may be new to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc-N0M5zFh8
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UltraShame posted:I really liked Divinity Original Sin 2 and Baldur's gate 3. This has caused me to dip into a genre that I have never really played before: Turn Based Tactics. It's essentially bite-sized turn based CRPG fights. Gimme that distilled CRPG battle. XCOM 2: War of the Chosen I haven't played them myself but Rad Codex's games--Voidspire Tactics, Alvora Tactics, Horizon's Gate--are fairly well liked
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UltraShame posted:I really liked Divinity Original Sin 2 and Baldur's gate 3. This has caused me to dip into a genre that I have never really played before: Turn Based Tactics. It's essentially bite-sized turn based CRPG fights. Gimme that distilled CRPG battle. Tactics Ogre Reborn is my favorite of the genre, and probably my favorite game period. Fell Seal: Arbiters Mark is probably the best FFT clone. Final Fantasy Tactics is the OG and is on the iPad and plays wonderfully. Solasta was mentioned but I’ll mention it again. It’s very good for combat. Card Hunter is an older was FTP game that has been mostly unlocked now game that is deck builder with 3 party members. Warhammer: Battlesector is breezy 10ish hours of tactics combat. Battle Bros, BATTLETECH, Hard West, Jagged Alliance, are all good. Most trad roguelikes have a significant movement on the tactical map component: Tangledeep, Tome4, Jupiter Hell are all amazing. Where you are now is basically where I’m at at all times in gaming. I want this combat wothout the 40 hours of rpg attached to it. You can also check out any board gamey things like Gloomhaven.
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Check out the age of wonders games. They're 4x games with a heavily developed combat system (imo it's better to treat the tactical combat as the game as the 4x part as a minigame you play between fights) Planetfall is the best one tactically speaking (imo) but it's got a really steep learning curve with a lot of information to absorb (at release I was 50 hours into the game and still going "woah what is that? I've never seen that unit before what does it do" somewhat frequently). The information itself is pretty simple and the age of wonders charm comes from each individual component being easy to understand while combining into highly complex situations on the battlefield, but it's still a lot. Base game has 6 different races with 7 or 8 units each, each of which is unique in abilities and usage (though they will still fall into overall archetypes, largely defined by how far away they can shoot). On top of that, there's 6 "secret techs" that are like a mini race that you combine with your actual race to make your faction - each of those is 3 units, at least one of which you probably have a racial variant of (your race's version of that secret tech unit has extra/changed abilities or tags). And that's before getting into NPC units and the independent node defender exclusive units. If that sounds good to you, I highly recommend it! For my money it's substantially better tactical combat than xcom has. If that sounds intimidating, the recently released age of wonders 4 may be a good starting point - a lot of aspects of the game were streamlined and simplified, it's sort of more designed to be beginner friendly while planetfall is more appealing to, well, someone who wants to still be learning the game 50 hours in. Faction creation is more of an ongoing process during the game via the tome system as opposed to age of wonders 3 and planetfall with the race/secret tech system (in 3 it would be class/race) having you set your entire tech tree at game start.
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I think the Valkyria Chronicles series is worth a look if you're exploring tactics games, because for better or worse, it's doing a weird and different thing that nobody else is doing. There's a VC4 demo to check out.
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Thank you for all the recs, I'll plug them into ITAD and look through them. Much appreciated!
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Warriors of the Nile 2 is also worth checking out, it's really really good in it's niche.
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UltraShame posted:I really liked Divinity Original Sin 2 and Baldur's gate 3. This has caused me to dip into a genre that I have never really played before: Turn Based Tactics. It's essentially bite-sized turn based CRPG fights. Gimme that distilled CRPG battle. Renowned Explorers: International Society is a run based (rogue lite with meta progression) tactical "combat" game, where you assemble a team of explorers and go on Indiana Jones style expeditions into different areas of the world. The "combat" is in parentheses because it's quite unique, and your explorers deal with enemies through violence, negotiation or threats. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's very interesting and unique, and quite entertaining. Played in runs too, so you don't have to commit 100 hours to it. Sandwich Anarchist fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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I really like battle brothers but the Big Event coming 100 days in always bugged me. I just like a chill merc outfit builder, not having to worry about The Big One
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ilmucche posted:I really like battle brothers but the Big Event coming 100 days in always bugged me. I just like a chill merc outfit builder, not having to worry about The Big One That's kind of addressable. Force the event to Noble War or Holy War when setting up the new game, and when it happens, you're just free to ignore it. If anything, these two are just more optional opportunities than anything. And if you haven't ticked Permanent Destruction, then Greenskins/Undead crisis can also be ignored, since any eventually burned down settlement will rebuild.
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There isn't a mod to just turn the crisis off? I never checked but just kind of took for granted that's a mod that has to exist.
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I know they’re totally different games, but I recently picked up Devil May Cry 5 and Persona 3 Reload on sales. About to finish what I’m working on and really can’t decide which to grab next. Anyone have any insight to sway me one way or another?
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do you want to be stuck to the game for 11 hours or 110 hours
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Devil May Cry rules. Play Devil May Cry.
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Thank you both. Played about an hour. Umm, holy gently caress? How did nobody tell me its like if you smushed a 3d fighting game into sicknasty Soulsvibe where you buy moves over time. I fuckin love souls games (and suck at them) and love fighting games (and am decent at it) soooo this rules like hell
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welcome to spectacle fighters, or character action games, or whatever you want to call them! you’ll probably also enjoy bayonetta, dmc3 and 4, metal gear rising and the two nier games. no clue what others are also available on steam
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My favorite was the Wonderful 101. Transformers Devastation was also fun, but it has been delisted.
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UltraShame posted:I really liked Divinity Original Sin 2 and Baldur's gate 3. This has caused me to dip into a genre that I have never really played before: Turn Based Tactics. It's essentially bite-sized turn based CRPG fights. Gimme that distilled CRPG battle. Customization? How about some character class focused TBT games by Radcodex? https://store.steampowered.com/app/415920/Voidspire_Tactics/ Voidspire Tactics is turn based with character speeds like FFT. It has an exploration focus and a decent plot, with premade maps and battles scattered about that don't respawn (mostly). It's a very solid game and one of my favorite tactics games. https://store.steampowered.com/app/643900/Alvora_Tactics/ Alvora Tactics is an attempt by the same developer to do a more procedurally generated dungeon design. It uses the same classes from Voidspire, with some additions and alterations. It felt more like a toy than a fully fleshed out game to me, due to the simple random dungeon layouts and basic plot, but it's still solid. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1224290/Horizons_Gate/ Horizon's Gate is the third game by the dev and has a sea exploration focus. If you've ever played Uncharted Waters: New Horizons, it will feel very familiar. There's naval battles and boarding actions (though boarding is not the focus), trade routes, and dungeons scattered around you can clear out for experience and loot. The storyline is fairly basic again, where after the intro you are let loose to do whatever until you're strong enough to attempt the final dungeon. The game mechanics are quite strong in this one, with the ability to gain two extra ability slots you can use to access one extra ability each. Like two mini-subclasses alongside your main two. There is a VERY healthy modding community, with tons of content available on the steam workshop. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2276830/Kingsvein/ Kingsvein is a return to the dungeon crawling exploration feel of Voidspire Tactics, but with drastically altered gameplay. The classes are all totally new! No more character speeds, instead all your characters act at once and then all the enemies act at once. There's no more back or side attacks, and damage reduction is gone too, all you get for armor is hp and/or evasion. Accessories are seldom direct upgrades and tend to give situational bonuses instead. There is somewhat of a focus on delayed attacks and pushing/pulling enemies around or hampering their movement(the latter very important for actually landing delayed attacks). It feels very different, unconventional even, and I had a hard time adjusting to it to be honest; I think most of the playerbase did too. The plot is much more ambitious than previous titles, with branching paths, far more dialogue, and multiple endings. McFrugal fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Mar 31, 2024 |
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Walked posted:Thank you both. Played about an hour. 
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If you like character action games then sleeping dogs sounds like the game for you
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:welcome to spectacle fighters, or character action games, or whatever you want to call them! you’ll probably also enjoy bayonetta, dmc3 and 4, metal gear rising and the two nier games. no clue what others are also available on steam Hi-Fi Rush is another good recent one if you're okay with some rhythm game being mixed in
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Walked posted:Thank you both. Played about an hour. HerpicleOmicron's suggestions are good follow-ups. The earlier Devil May Cry games are all good except for 2, 2 sucks. 1 is also kinda different, more deliberately-paced. It's fun if you can cope with the weird/bad camera. I would never in a million years call DMC a "souls game". Is that just what people are calling third-person melee action games these days?
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I would never in a million years call DMC a "souls game". Is that just what people are calling third-person melee action games these days? Yep.
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Shadow over Mystara is my favorite soulslike of all time.
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Jack Trades posted:Shadow over Mystara is my favorite soulslike of all time. Mine is DCS World.
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Jack Trades posted:Shadow over Mystara is my favorite soulslike of all time. Welcome to the welcome to th wel welcome wel wel w we w welcome to welc welcome to the dnd world
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Shine posted:Mine is DCS World. I hate the final boss. Bankruptcy.
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I got a new PC and would appreciate a list of gorgeous games, specifically single player games. Cyberpunk 2.0 is an obvious choice, I just got done playing Dragon's Dogma 2, and I've bought but haven't played the first FF7 remake. What are some other options? Armored Core 6?
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Jack B Nimble posted:I got a new PC and would appreciate a list of gorgeous games, specifically single player games. Red Dead 2
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Red Dead 2 It's like five years old, right? It's gorgeous, but I'm more thinking about recent games; I already played a good looking version of RDR2 like two PCs ago.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I got a new PC and would appreciate a list of gorgeous games, specifically single player games. The Horizon games? The second one apparently received a fantastic port
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Jack B Nimble posted:It's like five years old, right? It's gorgeous, but I'm more thinking about recent games; I already played a good looking version of RDR2 like two PCs ago. Mentioning CP2077 didn't make me think you meant new games, sorry
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No Dignity posted:The Horizon games? The second one apparently received a fantastic port I was thinking that, but I'd swear I heard people saying the sequel was a disappointment in gameplay? I liked but didn't love what I played of the first one, so I'm hesitant if the sequel is widely reckoned a decrease in quality. Sandwich Anarchist posted:Mentioning CP2077 didn't make me think you meant new games, sorry I feel like that's a special case sense it was kind of over built when it was released; I wasn't able to use Ray Tracing the last time I played it. But to be fair you could probably say the same thing about RDR2.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I was thinking that, but I'd swear I heard people saying the sequel was a disappointment in gameplay? I liked but didn't love what I played of the first one, so I'm hesitant if the sequel is widely reckoned a decrease in quality. Alan Wake 2 is nuts looking, try that one. The Dead Space remake is also really good. Resident Evil 4 remake as well.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I got a new PC and would appreciate a list of gorgeous games, specifically single player games. Basically any of the Sony published games - Horizon Forbidden West just came out
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