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Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Oh hey, another Germany thread. Didn't see this one.

To address the dubbing stuff that was mentioned on the first few pages - it's ... difficult.

Most tv-shows produced here are garbage and because of that we import stuff from other countries. However people want to watch TV in their native language. So we sometimes get adaptations where it makes sense like "Wer wird Millionär" (Who Wants to be a Millionaire) or "Deutschland sucht den Superstar" (American Idol).
The drama stuff though gets dubbed like 99% of the time. There are a few reasons for that. For example it's cheaper to pay a few people to dub the voices than to pay for actual actors, equipment and a studio. Also, as we are a smaller nation, (good) actors will be harder to find. You'll notice this in the other 1% where foreign shows get re-shot/copied, usually with terrible results. This can happen when the budget of the copied show was low to begin with.
The dubbing is normally not that bad if you haven't seen the original. Sure, one or two jokes get lost but hey, language still isn't universal.

The thing is though, most countries do it. The only ones not doing this are either so small that it wouldn't be economically viable to find decent voice actors, or English speaking countries and again there is reason behind it. Few of the stuff made in other countries is good enough to compete with your programs, usually because your budgets are higher. Of course a few things do actually reach you but those are so few that they get either subbed (Der Untergang,Pan's Labyrinth, etc) or remade. And you remake a lot of stuff. Hell, you even remake English stuff because your citizens could be startled by those disgusting accents.

So I guess there isn't a reason we have them but rather a reason you don't. It's because you throw more money at it. So don't give us poo poo about it but be glad about your situation.

I guess we really need a :germany: emot, maybe we can have a crying autobahn in front of our flag

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Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Liface posted:

The synchronization industry seems to have some sort of a lobby and people are unwilling to change.

The lobby is the people themselves. Imagine watching every, and here it really seems like around 90%-95%, movie in Spanish with subs. Really?
Also subtitled movies are the worst. Dubbed movies are ok, movies in original language are great. With subtitles however I find myself reading them and almost ignoring what is said. Thank god the cinemas around here stopped showing them and go for the original versions entirely. Now the only things I see tagged 'OmU' are Turkish films.

vvvv fair enough

Sereri fucked around with this message at 14:56 on May 9, 2010

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

kanonvandekempen posted:

Apparently the signboard when you enter an urban area in Germany is a yellow rectangle, as opposed to the white rectangle I'm used to. I was driving at 70 km/h, while I was supposed to drive 50 when I saw the automated camera flash, how much of a fine can I expect?

Wait so in Belgium you can drive 70 inner-city? Because if not I don't see a reason you drove 70 in the first place if you were driving into a city/town.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Unagi posted:

SIM card question if anyone knows..

I'll be buying a SIM card for my phone while in Germany, is it possible to have data access on them or do they only come in minutes? You can't just buy SIM cards over here so I'm unsure of how it works. Can you get it and then pick what services you want and then pay, or do you pick one that say comes with XXX no. of minutes and that's what you get?

My trip is coming up so quickly. I'm getting so anxious. Never been gone so far, or so long! :ohdear:

I'm not sure what do you mean with data access. Do you mean internet on your phone? Well prepaid cards usually come as X amount of money, like 10€ 20€ 30€. There are different scales of charges, for example calling people using the same provider , calling landlines or using the internet. Lately a few of the providers offer pay by bill.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Zwille posted:

Uh, Alice/Hansenet? They're pretty reliable.

And they also have a 1 month cancellation period unlike everyone else where its 12 or 24 months.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Unagi posted:

I have an odd request.

Could someone tell me the the Zutaten in Bayer Aspirin? I want to know if it's the same as over here in the states, because the German stuff seems to be much better than any American Aspirin... I just don't know why or if there's any difference.

Aspirin only has one active ingredient but comes in different doses. Maybe American Aspirin (or the brand you usually buy) isn't as highly concentrated as the Bayer one's you bought here. Last year I bought some in Spain that were basically 1/5 of the dosis of the one's I buy at the local pharmacy here. Taking 5 of them at a time solved the problem

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Hungry Gerbil posted:

Because it sounds wrong in this case.

It does? Not to me; both sound perfectly reasonable. Try to substitute it with Student or Lastwagenfahrer or something and look if it still sounds wrong to you.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Previously on GBS posted:

It's grammatical. So given that we're discussing grammaticality and not semantic equivalence, it's perfectly fine.

Unless you're Gollum, "mein Schatz" is "my sweetheart"

/E: Yeah pirates work too

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Ziir posted:

I'm positive the line isn't about a sweetheart or romantic interest, but rather literally treasure. The main character says this line when he gets his poo poo stolen in a strange city where he didn't know anyone or speak the language. I think he realizes he could pout and go home, or that he could make the best of it and go on. The treasure he seeks, as far as he knows, is some kind of gold.

Oh he knows that. It was more of a general thing. 'Schatz' associated with 'mein' should be translated to 'sweetheart'/'dear' in like 95% of all cases. You know, unless the person is a pirate/etc talking about an actual treasure of gold/money/diamonds belonging to him.

Sereri fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Oct 7, 2010

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Previously on GBS posted:

I would be happy if all the drat tourists who feel the need to appropriate Bavarian culture would at least wear regular modern Dirndls instead of those cheap slutty versions.

But how would you see their boobs then :confused:

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Zwille posted:

You gotta be making GBS threads me.

I hadn't heard of that before but sadly it sounds quite realistic.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Ziir posted:

Also hilarious how they play a ice cream commercial and then pause everything so a guy can come in with ice cream for sale.

Yeah we had that too but it didn't work so well so they stopped that and play a beer commercial now and sell that. Seems to be working better.

E: oh hey new page :downs:

Jiminy Krimpet posted:

Changing the topic momentarily away von dem Arschwagen, I have some cultural questions that we've been discussing in German class. . . I wonder about the German perspective.

Do Germans feel that "multi-kulti" is really dead or is it mainly top-down populist political rhetoric?

Why are Germans so apprehensive about Google Street View? The reaction to seeing one's home on GSV seems to be :aaa: no matter where you live, but in America that face means AWESOME and in Germany it means something less positive, from what I gather.

Are you happy that Germany is in the EU?

And the fun one, what's the easiest way to spot an American tourist?

You should read the recent D&D thread on that. Actually don't.

Basically the media used the same rhetoric the post-9/11 media used on terrorism. It was a rather one-sided "IT WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN" and voices saying otherwise were mostly not heard. The minister of consumer protection was going fully overboard on personal data protection from the internet and it hit GSV instead of facebook or regular google. Basically people are retarded.

It's basically paying for being able to pay with your currency in vacation countries like Spain or Greece and easily crossing borders.

They visit the Octoberfest.

Sereri fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Nov 19, 2010

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

unixbeard posted:

Also if the US military is so good why couldn't they win in Afghanistan or Iraq :smugdog:

Because not all of their equipment is named after animals.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

A LOVELY LAD posted:

Im currently in the process of learning German, fairly early on but I generally hit a snag when it comes to ordering words..

Im mean't to say
Ich möchte Wein kaufen - I want to wine buy

but I say it in a more english structure

Ich möchte kaufen Wein - I want to buy wine

Does phrase number 2 still make sense in german?

EDIT: Also for saying "Mit inhen". I tend to say it at the end of the sentence ("I would like to eat with you "where german would be structured like "I would like you with you eat"). Again, would that make sense at all?

Let's say people would probably understand what you're trying to say but the way the others described it is the correct one.

If you have more querstions there is always the German-language forums [German speaking/learning goons post here] thread.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Hungry Gerbil posted:

Edit2: I think Düsseldorf would be cheaper than Frankfurt and Munich.

Because there's nothing exciting there except for Cologne :v:

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

bronin posted:

Yep, this is the one I have. You just have to give 'em your address and they'll send it to you. That's what I did anyway.
You can also print it out for yourself.

Local hospitals also usually have them in large quantities, often at the entrance or waiting areas.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

bronin posted:

We don't

Well not to the extend the Americans do it. You will see some decorating lights in the windows or light chains here and there but nothing like the abominations in American suburbs with giant Santas and reindeers or decoration that eliminate all need for street lights.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

ToDave posted:

An unrelated question...

I'm about go to move to Berlin for six months and am wondering about cell phones. I'm going to be in London for a week beforehand so I'm wondering, if I buy a pay as you go phone in the UK will it work the same in Germany or am I better off just waiting until I arrive in Germany to buy a phone?

The phone will work basically everywhere in Europe with every carrier but you better get another sim card in Germany since the roaming fees are outrageously high.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Warm breakfast is not common, the warmest you'll usually get are buns fresh from the oven or the bakery, with butter and marmalade / some nutella product ( NUSPLI! ). Kids (but not limited to them) usually eat 'Müsli' or some Kellogg's product. And then we have the 'nothing but coffee and cigarettes for breakfast so I can get stomach ulcers at 35' group.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:

As far as I can tell there is only a minor river by that name, but it is indeed in that area. The river is entirely inside Poland today, but it does flow into the Neiße (the river forming the southern part of the German/Polish border since the end of WW2) near Zittau and Görlitz, so perhaps whoever told you about the place in question meant a place on the Küpper.

It's either that or a village called Miedziane that was formerly called Küpper. Miedziane is part of Sulików. That's what the german wikipedia says about it and it's usually right about stuff like that.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

I think it has something to do with the fact that in the daily language no words actually have accents so we have an entire key dedicated to something entirely useless. Sure you can write a letter to your french friend without him going insane over what the hell you wrote but who actually does that. So we use them as apostrophes because we can't be bothered to press shift every time.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Zwille posted:

They're used when you can't append a genitive S to names, like with Alex or... I dunno. "Alex' Gänsekeulen" would be totally correct.

Also there's a Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode that has Oktoberfest written with Umlauts. They really went all out with that one so it read like Öktöbërfëst. I think they even managed to get some over the consonants. Shame I can't find a picture online.

"Schadenfräud" sounds like bilingual Versicherungsbetrug, by the way.

This?


Apostrophes are also (sometimes) used if you drop parts of the word like " 'n kleines Kind"

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

FLX posted:

No way! Café is a French word. The correct German term for this would be Kaffeehaus :pseudo:

Zwille posted:



Well thanks to our American friends, within 10 years the German word will be Coffeeshop or Starbucks anyway.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Tricolor posted:

When travelling by train, how much luggage will I be allowed to carry?
I'm planning to fly to Germany via Berlin and then take a train to Leipzig from there. I'll be packing a carry-on backpack or bag and a roller trolley bag with a lot of stuff in it - it'll probably be the 20 or 30kg worth of items.

The Deutsche Bahn doesn't give a poo poo. If it fits on the train you are allowed to take it with you. If you can take it on a plane you are more than fine on a train, no matter what class or kind of train.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Ziir posted:

I just don't think I can bring myself to eat something made from liver :(

Liver actually makes up a rather small part of it (10-20%), most of it is meat. Honestly just do yourself the favor and try it (make sure it is good one though, maybe try one from a butchery).

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Hungry Gerbil posted:

Yeah, you can get a ticket for it. And if you have racked up enough other traffic offences you might even lose your drivers license.

Honestly though you have to try very hard to get a ticket for that. Like crossing the street in front of a policeman and with a child present (always be a good example and so on). The chances of it happening are next to null.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

I guess it was this:


It's a warning for people with pacemakers, there was probably a strong magnetic field of some sort.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

elbkaida posted:

Also: LaserWash, just ask for tap water in restaurants! Best case you get it for free, worst case they just say no (IIRC they are not really allowed to do this, though?).

They have no legal responsibility to serve you tap water and can refuse or charge you money for it.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Ziir posted:

By the way is this e. coli thing something I should actually worry about, or is it this year's swine flu? I ordered a sandwich at a cafe this morning and they asked if I wanted salad in it. I said sure why not and my friend with my was was doing the whole "oh my god really?" thing.

You're going to die. Sorry about that.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

flavor posted:

(Not really kidding, the more intellectual people there viewed a strong Berlin accent/dialect as low-class. This was not so much the case with other dialects in other regions.)
In my experience that's widespread. People who speak with not just an accent but in dialect tend to be either from the countryside / small cities or have lower grade education, sometimes both. I'm not saying a person with a higher education will not speak in dialect but the chance is much lower.

flavor posted:

Also, "Sonnabend" is cool and "Samstag" is douchey. It's "sun evening" against "sams day", where "sams" doesn't evoke any mental image at all.
You are wrong.

Also Beistrich. Ösis are weird.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

flavor posted:

Oh ok, I'll be sure to consider that well-supported argument in the future. Whenever I'll talk about "Sonnabend" again, I'll pause and think "Wait a minute, Sereri said I was wrong... hm...". I'm sure "Samstag" is supposed to mean something and I could look that up somewhere, but "Sonnabend" has an immediately obvious meaning.

:nyd:

Excuse me, your opinion that Samstag was douchy because the origin of sams has been crippled beyond recognition is of course the definition that should be taught in schools.
One is the continuition of the germanic zoning of the day times in which used the previous evening was part of the day. The other is basically the day of saturn / star of sabbat , the same as in Spanish, French, Italian and English.

But one of those was used by communists so you are wrong.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Nosy_G posted:

Guten Tag! A few questions from someone considering emigration to Deutschland from the US.

How are job prospects for a college graduate with a 3 years of work experience in his field?
Well, depends what you do for a living.

quote:

Are there any particular areas of the country where someone with a great deal of interest in the musical arts, especially orchestral music, might want to consider?
You'll be fine in basically every big city

quote:

I understand that the German government requires all German citizens to forsake all other citizenships. Is this still the case?
I guess so

quote:

What is the general attitude of the German people to immigrants? I consider myself to have a modest grasp of the German tongue, but there will surely be a bit of a transitory period as I become more familiar with the language. Are there particular parts of Germany where English wouldn't be of use to help communicating?
You're from the US, you'll be fine. As for English, don't expect perfect Oxford English in the more rural areas. Most people should be able to understand you.

quote:

On a similar note, is there any substantial differences in dialect across the nation? I studied German in school, and was told that I was learning something called "High German", or something similar.
There are lots of different dialects. (Almost) everyone speaks Hochdeutsch, however even the accents caused by the dialects might be enough to make it hard for people from the north and south to understand each other. Again YMMV.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

bronin posted:

Enough with this Prussian business!

I need this more than porn

That is a revolting affront to god and the swiss people.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Square Pair posted:

Ah, this reminds me. It seems almost every street in Germany (ok a bit of an exaggeration but not by much) has a kebap place. Now in my opinion these are the best drat things especially at 3am stumbling along the streets. My question is why are there so many? Does Germany have an agreement with Turkey or wherever for immigration? In Mainz my favorite Imbiss is now a Donner Kebap stand. Sometimes an american just needs a couple pils, brotchen and a bratwurst...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastarbeiter

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Jiminy Krimpet posted:

White socks. I was made fun of relentlessly for wearing white socks the first time.

And rightfully so.

/E: It's not just white socks, it's white socks in sandals.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Square Pair posted:

Also, you probably know this already but you'll rarely get pulled over for speeding in Germany/Austria. More than likely you'll get a ticket in the mail with your picture behind the wheel. It goes through your rental car company and they charge you a fee to process the ticket.

The most personal thing that can happen to you is them working in two teams, one measuring the speed, the other pulling you over and taking your money. But that only happens on 'Landstraßen', if at all.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Hungry Gerbil posted:

ist es > ist's
einen > 'nen
eine > 'ne
ein > 'n

Those are examples where it is used to signify omitted parts of a word. But most people nowadays don't even use the apostrophe for this anymore. (ists, nen, ne etc.)

Those are the same people that put apostrophes where they don't belong.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Square Pair posted:

rolladin (sp?)!

Close, Rollladen

Default Settings posted:

Are you guys serious about this? Even in Austria you would get a free glass of water with your food if you ask for it. Not many people do that, though.

Free water with your food? What is this, Communism?

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Yeah maybe we should move on. Imagine the irony of a thread about Germany getting gassed. :hitler:

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Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Mango Polo posted:

I'm wondering, if I don't speak a lick of German, is there any way that I can attend classes and do tests in English to obtain a driving license?

I'll be in Berlin for the next couple of years but as far as I've found there's an exam that is only available in German :(

When I was doing the test there were test sheets for the theoretical part in German, English, French, Turkish, Russian and many more. But that was Baden-Württemberg. For the practical part you'd need to find a driving school that does classes in English.

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