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Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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I decidedly prefer this thread title as well.

Also, withak, can I just take this moment to say that your avatar upsets me deeply

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Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Wolfsheim posted:

Hah, he's a 'listener'. How utterly horrifying would hiring Todd as a male escort be.

I dunno, aren't the lady squirrels into him? He's definitely gotten it on at least once, to the musical stylings of Blood Beagle. Maybe that's just with trashy lady squirrels, though. You're probably right that anyone in a successful enough position to hire him would be horrified.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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"spaz bag"

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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I'd say so. I'm having a hard time remembering specifics but I think Dr. McNinja has had other Achewood references in the past.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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oh oh right now I remember, in some Dr. McNinja page someone blubbers like Ray, "a bloo bloo bloo"

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Kaboobi posted:

So how awesome is the Cookbook 2? I just ordered it yesterday to get in on the free pint glass dealie (along with a Karma poster and Dude & Catastrophe pint glass). Are there some actually good recipes in this one too? The oven fries were awesome in the last book.

no one knows yet, man, they don't ship til the 15th

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Dove from Above posted:

I can't remember whether I pre-ordered or not and I feel really dumb.

I emailed them a few weeks ago with a politer version of "where is my drat cookbook" because I didn't realize that I was preordering, so you are not alone

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Phenylketonuric posted:

I read Todd as a stuttering, high pitched Joe Pesci.

YES. I have been struggling to characterize the voice that I hear him speaking with, but this is it perfectly. With a little Jawa voice tossed in, maybe.

Muffin Loaf fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Oct 15, 2009

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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complaining about achewood: a funeral of the english language

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Don't get me wrong. I'm just as sick of "How could that happen?? What's going on!? Oh no it's... *MAGICAL REALISM* (drum crash, studio audience cheers)." Achewood has been on a steady decline for at least a year or two, and it bothers me a lot because I love how the strip used to be. I think it has a lot to do with taking magical realism and turning it from a once-or-twice out of the blue artsy interlude to a recurring yuk-yuk gag, and analogous changes to other formerly strong elements.

You've just got a confusing way of trolling about it. Why should I be thankful he's self-published? What would be worse if he weren't?

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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My statement of "on a steady decline for the past year or two" was over-strong, I'll admit. More like "radically more inconsistent in the past 12-18 months than in the previous several years."

I still think achewood today is head and shoulders above nearly every other comic, it's just that achewood 2-3 years ago was head and shoulders above achewood today.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Spillane posted:

it really is but that's because the only one who offered any semblance of discussion to what I said was Muffin Loaf the rest of you are just sputtering about how 10000 people who like something must be right so therefore gently caress right off smuglook yeah
I totally understand where you're coming from and honestly agree with a good chunk of what you have to say, but part of the reason people are reacting so negatively is that you're being so vitriolic about it.

I know we don't have to be polite on the internet but you also can't expect a reasoned discussion to grow from such angry seeds.


That being said, yes, Achewood is showing some real cracks lately and I say that not because I hate it but actually because I love it and don't want to see it decline. Furthermore one way to guarantee its decline is for all the fans to gush about everything Chris produces without the slightest inkling of criticism.

Personally I don't give a poo poo about the sporadic update schedule. I am, however, really bothered by the stuff I've already mentioned and the lack of solid standalone strips. The constant launching into continuities and the sudden narrowing of what continuities involve (a small, arbitrary subset of the characters and "[humorous proper adjective] magical realism") are both kind of turning me off.

There is still some real gold coming out, sometimes in strips, often in the fanflow, but then I look back a few years and literally every strip used to be amazing, and it's just not that way anymore. From about 2003-2007, I could count on my hands the number of strips that don't make me laugh out loud. This year, I could count the number that do.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Personally I'm expecting the action to cut away from Todd completely, with whatever happened to him being mentioned in a quick throwaway line/panel, if at all.

if that happens I'll gladly shut up

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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no discussion in the discussion thread i guess v:shobon:v

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Aug 9, 2006

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robot roll call posted:

gently caress you achewood criticizers, this strip was motherfucking amazing

I don't think you "get" the point spillane and I were trying to make.

Also, yes, this strip was pretty good. Probably not going to post in this thread much anymore, have fun reaffirming your own opinions off of each other

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Has anyone's Cookbook 2 shipped yet? I thought they were supposed to go out the 15th but I haven't heard anything yet.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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For anyone that was curious about my Cookbook 2 inquiry, turns out there was some mishap/delay in the printing and they won't be shipping until mid-November. Bummer.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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I too loved all the original content in Volume 2 (HEY, BEEFY BEEF BEEF! BEEFY WANNA GUINNESS?) but I really can't wait for the inevitable volume 3. That will get into the really cream-of-the-crop comics and also he promised to do pieces on the cats. I love Vol 2 but I can already tell I'll love future ones more.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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I guess I just don't "get" Tony Millionaire. Maybe I just need to read more but after reading one of his comics I always think "oh, that was sort of funny I guess."

It's definitely well drawn though, that's for sure. I'm open to having my opinion changed but I currently don't see what the fuss is about.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Grilldos posted:

On the wide scale of "daily"-type comics in general, Maakies and Achewood are much closer together than you give them credit for. The fact Tony Millionaire can produce a page that fits in line with both the style of Maakies and Achewood at the same time speaks to that. If you "don't see what the fuss is about", give it a little more review than a single strip.

I can see why you misunderstood my wording, but I've read more than one. I meant "after reading a strip" not "after reading just this one strip."

Regarding your point about them being more similar than I think, I don't see what you're getting at. My opinion of Maakies is independent of my opinion of Achewood. I just don't think Maakies is funny. It's something about the writing, it seems stilted and lifeless. But anyway, this isn't a thread about Maakies and I'll be quiet.

King Nothing posted:

Yeah, it turns out it's ok to make generalized, opinionated statements about things.

this is very true

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Happy Hippo posted:

Aren't Beef and Molly doomed to break up? It seems like I got that impression from a strip, but I can't place...

I think they may be in jeopardy in the long run, but I'd be really surprised if it ends this soon. I know the passage of time in a comic is pretty fluid and definitely not necessarily 1:1 with real time, but it just seems awful quick, especially given the epic effort and follow-up put into the wedding storyline.

I think we'll see some major plot points in the stories of some other characters before something so big happens to Beef and Molly. Then again, I could be wrong (I hope I am right :()

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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McGravin posted:

Is it some kind of phenomenon that big sisters routinely crush little brother's fingers?

Hee hee I'm sure Freud would have something to say about it

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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On the one hand, I am really glad we're getting frequent new strips. On the other hand, I'm kind of weirded out by the topical humor angle in some of them. The newest strip strikes me as very un-achewood, and Roomba Cinema being about a movie currently in theaters was weird too. I still think they're funny, though.

Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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Happy Hippo posted:

It's not like he's writing strips about who's dating Jessica Simpson or whatever.

And I count that among my blessings every night.

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Muffin Loaf
Aug 9, 2006

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This week's strips have me slowly reaching for the "retract" button for all the words I used like "decline" and "slump"

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