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Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Heliosicle fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Apr 8, 2023

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Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Oodles posted:

Is your heart set on research? Just asking as I had a friend that went and did a PhD and after the 3 or 4 years however long it was, she came back to where we lived and worked in the oil industry.

It's what I'd like to end up doing yeah.

tonberrytoby posted:

I am doing my Doctorate of Engineering in EE(Microwaves) in Germany.
We are very well paid compared to grad students in almost all other fields and locations. It is also usual here to switch schools after getting your MSc/MEng so switching now would be considered normal.

Cool! What was the application process like for you - did you stay at the same university?

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Heliosicle fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 8, 2023

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

Arigato, Racists.

Lord_Adonis posted:

Thanks for your response, CarForumPoster. I must admit that I do have a problem when it comes to being succinct and cogent, so I apologise for the obtuseness of my post. Anyway, in regards to your question, I can only attempt to draw broad parallels between the qualifications you listed and my own- I was hoping that qualification levels were similar across international boarders, to make international recruitment easier, but that seems not to be the case. I am not sure what you mean by 'Associates Degree'- it could be something similar to my Higher National Diploma, which took two years, is a vocational qualification and can serve as the first two years of a standard/mediocre engineering degree course, or the first year of a decent one. However, if you include my BTEC National Diploma that I did before the HND, which took one year, then that is three years of electronics education total (Well, four if you count my failed attempt to earn a top-up B.S.c this year, and five or six if you count my City and Guilds Electrical Installation qualifications). I suppose that you could call the venue in which I obtained my National Diploma and HND a 'technical college' (It was in fact, called the 'London Electronics College' which is a specialist electrical college- the highest level qualification they offer is the HND). I would suggest that my qualifications are somewhere between your first and second option, or perhaps just your second option. However, I cant be sure- perhaps someone with knowledge of both American and British qualification could chime in here? Perhaps it would help you if I described the content of those courses?

At the end of the day, I am trying to find out what sort of positions I am qualified for, hoping that I have not shot myself in the foot by failing the top-up degree.

You have shot yourself in the foot a bit, since you'll now have to start lower down the ladder. Try looking for internships that are aimed towards people with your level of experience - they'll mention that they're for 1st or 2nd year students, you might have trouble translating that into a job right away, but if they like you they may fund your 3rd year again. You could also go for apprenticeship positions and work as a technician, I know people who've spent a few years doing that whilst being sent to university part-time to get the necessary formal experience to move up.

This depends on your living situation of course, internships and apprenticeships usually aren't that well paid (~£14k), but they're a good way to get a company's name on your CV and if you show yourself to be a good and hard worker then they'll often recruit from that pool of people rather than totally new hires for entry level positions. A company I worked for only takes on graduates that have done internships or apprenticeships for them in the past.

I haven't got much more experience than you though so there could be other paths.

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Heliosicle fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 8, 2023

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

Arigato, Racists.
Is this still in the UK? Don't know what you mean by merit university. I think most would be fine with a 2:1 for master's intake but depends partly where it's from, and how well you can show you know your stuff.

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Qubee posted:

- I'll start doing some projects to throw on my CV. What are some affordable projects I can do? I've done some basic woodwork in the past, but I'm not sure if building cabinets and tables is something to proudly put on my CV.

Minor thing but even small projects like this can be a good thing to mention in your CV as they can be out of the ordinary and catch people's attention. It's just anecdotal but a friend of mine spent a long time in his interview at a large company talking about the table he designed and built. It's about how you sell the approach you took to the table and how that relates to your problem solving/planning skills.

If you're sending out that many applications with little response I think it's possible there's something missing/not right in your applications, not necessarily that you don't have experience. Has it been checked by someone you know at an engineering company or a careers adviser?

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Heliosicle fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 8, 2023

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Pander posted:

Honestly AI-generates scripts are probably going to make "learning to code" from scratch in a classical sense obsolete. Learn enough to understand what's happening in a language, know if somethings working as intended, how to debug if it's not, but I wouldn't lose sleep about knowing a language cold in this day and age as you start a bachelor degree.

Fwiw I took a C+ course as part of my undergrad 20+ years ago and that was the last time I coded beyond some basic Matlab poo poo. Mathcad and electrical modeling software took priority in my sliver of the "EE working in power and generation" world.

Maybe because I'm at the research-end of R&D and I don't want to believe it's the future since it's so much of my job, but I think having a solid understanding of at least one language is still going to be very important. How else are you going to be able to debug well or know how the generative AI could approach a problem if you don't know how to code from scratch? And what if there's a problem/request that the model hasn't seen before and comes out with a nonsense solution.

You're probably right to a large extent since most tasks are just recycling others in a slightly new combination. I'm pretty sure it's going to remain a good advantage in the jobs market alone to be able to code still though.


Regarding good languages for embedded systems, python and/or C/Arduino are both good for getting started on your own.

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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Not a Children posted:

MATLAB carried me through grad school so +1 to that.

dxt posted:


I used a bunch of MATLAB in college, some VHDL/Verilog and haven't touched it since. Now I mainly do PLC programming (mostly ladder logic or structured text) with some C#/VB for HMIs

The Chairman posted:

If you know your school's using Matlab, then that's another good thing to get familiar with

MATLAB owns bones imo, but unless you're at a university or big company then you're missing lots of functionality from the $$ toolboxes. There's always :filez: of course

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

Arigato, Racists.

Oodles posted:

What’s the etiquette for looking for new roles within my work?

Etiquette where I am (in Europe) is that an initial casual chat is fine between 'technical' people. But talking to the hiring manager without informing your own first is a no no. This only works if people hold to confidentiality properly.

It will depend on the management structure though. We have a very clear people management line with technical leadership across that, so people running projects are never hiring directly.

Couldn't you phrase it to your boss like you did at the bottom there? Wanting that switch (or any other switch) because you're interested in the other project for good reasons (learning, being more effective, etc.) should be a positive enough story, and at least you aren't trying to leave the place entirely.

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Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

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LeeMajors posted:

A) It’s fun to see all your answers, as folks deep in the industry, from the eyes of a veteran healthcare worker going to school at 40 to become an EE. Lots of the gripes and apathy mirror my opinions of my current field.

B) I also wanted to get an idea of what drew you guys in and if you had outside interests that you were looking to pursue beforehand or if you found serendipitous interests while working through your courseloads. Mostly because I do not have a technical background and have little in the way of pet projects or specific interests that sucked me in.

I’m getting close to my “third year” (I transferred in gen ed requirements from long ago, but I’m going part time at the moment) and considering the idea of internships and where I’ll sort of find a spark of inspiration to specialize.

I did EE after failing to get into the original physics course I signed up for since my grades weren't high enough. Quite liked it but gravitated to more embedded systems/programming topics on the course. Was never a hobby thing for me though like some people, I just wasn't so into it. Afterwards I was quite sure that it wasn't the perfect fit for me, so went and did biomedical engineering for a doctorate which I really liked, and now mainly do physics and optics stuff in industry. I like the path I took and what I do now, so it worked out.

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