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IOwnCalculus posted:Tahoe/Suburban, Yukon/XL, Escalade/ESV is a wheelbase/body length difference, they're all three rows but the short versions have next to no cargo room with the third row. This became a lot less true in MY 2021 (?) when they went to independent rear suspension. Cargo room is now comparable to or better than any other three row I could find aside from minivans, and no longer that far off there (25ish vs 33ish cubic feet) Hadlock posted:I was under the impression that GMC was the flagship brand/trim level/grille, and fleet sales usually chose the second to bottom tier trim level Most of their non pickup truck model lineup slots below Cadillac and above Chevy, so…
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I was wondering the other day which came first: the Denali, or GMC generally being considered upmarket vs Chevy
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Are you saying you don’t know the model year of your own car?
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Aug 30, 2023 21:55
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Hadlock posted:For our daily driver? Correct. I can't tell you what year I bought my toaster or blender, either Color me shocked that the poster that can’t remember basic information about their own vehicle also can’t remember much correctly about others’
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Aug 31, 2023 01:07
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Alright, gonna throw this out there in case some useful feedback comes from it. My wife and I are going to get a new family vehicle and we're fairly set on a new Yukon. For a while, we'd figured the SLT trim level, with the 3.0 diesel, was the way we wanted to go. But after a few weeks/months (we're very slow vehicle purchase decision makers because we actually enjoy hemming and hawing over it forever like idiots), we're questioning whether we might want to go with the AT4 trim level instead. The price is close enough that it's basically a wash, but the AT4 is not available with the diesel engine. Financially, we're not concerned about affording either, but would of course prefer not to spend more money needlessly. So the diesel is appealing from that standpoint: while diesel is often a decent bit more expensive, it doesn't seem like it's enough to overcome the difference in gas mileage. On the other hand I've heard lots of concerning things about modern diesels with maintenance and repair costs, and that despite their better fuel mileage it's not clear to me that they're any better if not worse in terms of emissions. The AT4 trim is, subjectively, better looking and more appealing to both of us. I'm sure that the SLT would be sufficiently capable for any driving off pavement we would do (a fair amount, but nothing challenging or technical). But it is also better equipped and has a few more things that are nice to have standard. We'd probably get it with the 5.3L engine, rather than the 6.2L: I feel pretty confident the 5.3 would be plenty for us, and the 6.2 recommends premium fuel. I know for a newer engine like that it's probably really more of a recommendation than a requirement, but where I live most of the gas stations are quite expensive except for one, that is usually $1+ cheaper than the rest, but doesn't have premium. So it feels pretty silly to get a car that wants it. That's fairly rambly, but I guess in short I'm curious if anyone reading has much specific knowledge about that range of GM engines and has strong opinions one way or the other about their quality, reliability, etc.
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Hadlock posted:5.3 vs 6.2: do you have significant towing needs Towing needs but not significant. A small 19’ ski boat that we want to be able to use the new car to tow, most often just a few miles to a nearby reservoir. For anything heavy, we have an F350.
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Agreed, which is why we were figuring on the 5.3 if we got the AT4. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. I did want to leave that question at least a little bit open though because if anyone thinks, say, the 5.3 is hot garbage and the 6.2 is great, that’s an opinion I’d like to know about Steve French fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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Sep 30, 2023 05:47
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Thanks for all that. And yeah, 3.0 diesel, 6.2 and 5.3 gas engines are all that’s available on the Yukon. Meanwhile, went to a neighbors house for his kids birthday party yesterday and he wants to offload one of his two (??) diesel excursions…
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Oct 1, 2023 22:59
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Motronic posted:I always thought excursions were just a ridiculous non-answer to the already wildly popular suburban and just a really bad idea, bus drat I'd totally take a diesel one and immediately ruin it with a mild lift and knobby tires. The money we’d save not buying a new Yukon would pay for a lot of dumb poo poo like that, I’m honestly pretty tempted. It’ll come down to details and how much my wife is okay with not having more modern comforts like auto 4wd, heated seats/wheel, cameras. It’s stupidly large but also reminding myself it’s still shorter in overall length and wheelbase than our F150, which I’ve never found all that cumbersome to drive.
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Oct 1, 2023 23:26
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In my experience the best tactic is walking out the door
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Oct 2, 2023 20:33
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Also every brand with a no haggle model has had a bunch of consumers complain and think they aren't getting a good price because they aren't getting A Deal. It also means that you can get your legs cut out from under you by dealers of other brands who can discount more heavily. This happened with both Scion and Saturn. Does it seem like Tesla is getting this same pushback?
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Oct 3, 2023 18:40
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Motronic posted:I always thought excursions were just a ridiculous non-answer to the already wildly popular suburban and just a really bad idea, bus drat I'd totally take a diesel one and immediately ruin it with a mild lift and knobby tires. Ok but would you still do it if it were the 6.0 not the 7.3
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Oct 4, 2023 02:00
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Motronic posted:Depends on if I want a project car or not and had the space. If you have the ability to pull the cab and do all of the 6.ohno things to it (it's a formula at this point) then sure. If they're already done then hell yeah. But the price would have to accurately reflect that first scenario. Well, space isn’t a problem, this would be replacing two other vehicles. Already have two projects but not short on ambition, even if I’m short on time to actually back it up. I’ll be getting more details from him on what’s actually been done and how much he wants, but I know it hasn’t had the full bulletproof treatment. My wife is oddly into the idea, so at some level I’m game for a bad idea here because the savings from not buying a new Yukon would pay for a heck of a lot of repairs or other dumb things, and timeline on that isn’t looking good anyway. I’ve also got enough vehicles that a lot of them would have to crap out at once for it to be a problem. If I go forward with a stupid decision here I’ll be sure to make an update in AI
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Motronic posted:That is absolutely state specific. It simply is not a thing at all in my state. If you, a seller, have a clean (no liens) title and sign it in front of a notary it will be transferred to the seller listed/signed/notarized when sent in to the state DMV. Is using a notary some state specific thing also? I’ve never used or thought about using a notary for a title transfer
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Motronic posted:Yep, it's totally a PA title thing. When I buy a car in NJ all I need is for the seller to sign the title, then it's accepted by PA for the transfer because they can't force other states to do their stupid thing. Interesting. What does it look like to buy a car in PA without meeting the seller in person with a notary? Each party separately notarizes?
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37” mud terrains are perfectly capable of getting you anywhere you need to go on pavement, but of course that similarly does not mean they’re the ideal choice for it
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Nitrox posted:The steady march of people into the thread, who thinks that AWD is somehow a traction compensator, continues without interruption. Is this because of marketing? Are laws of physics so widely ignored? Perhaps we can add it to the thread title Caltrans has bought into the marketing too.
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Dec 16, 2023 23:50
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bergeoisie posted:At least in the PNW it puts you in a different category for chain laws during winter which has been worth it for me, at least. Yup this is what I was referring to with my caltrans comment earlier, same deal in California. If you’re not AWD/4WD, you need chains during storms on the freeway here more or less. So for me 2WD is a non starter. Absent that, if I had to choose 2WD and snow tires vs AWD and all seasons? Edge to snow tires. Realistically I’ll take both thank you very much, having power to all four wheels absolutely helps and is worthwhile in many places despite some folks feeling like they need it when they don’t.
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Not Wolverine posted:Proposed Budget: $20k I wouldn’t call an F150 a small truck, but a crew cab will fit two adults and two kids and a dog pretty comfortably in the cab, and fit in your budget. That’s not to say it’s necessarily a good choice overall (they are big! Like, with a crew cab and short bed, bigger than a Suburban big). Source: my wife and I have two kids, just sold a 2014 F150 that we owned for 6 years for just under $20k, and had between two and three dogs during that time. The back seat is big enough that a dog can sit in the footwell in front of the kids. Or you can fold down one of the side seats with the kids in the middle and other side.
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I believe the Touareg/Cayenne have had adaptive cruise control since the start of the 2nd gen (2010), and will tow 7700 lbs, plenty for a small boat / jetskis / lil camper, and should be findable in your $20k budget.
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I’ve got a ~20ft ski boat and honestly towing it around with my F150 it never even broke a sweat. You do not need anything that big even if you had a real actual immediate use for towing a small boat, let alone a hypothetical aspirational need for doing so. Also demerits for shade thrown at 996s
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Not Wolverine posted:I agreed finding towing with ACC for $20k is unobtainable, but if I omit ACC a midsize of half ton pickup is probably not a terrible idea. Not sure if I’m interpreting this right but you don’t need an 8’ bed to put plywood in a pickup. Tailgates fold down. Deteriorata posted:An Odyssey or Sienna can tow 3500 pounds. Depending on the type of boat he’s considering, that might be enough, but it’s also not that much and pretty darn easy to exceed that with a not very big boat and trailer.
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Shipon posted:I'm finally in the position where I'm making pretty good money and can afford something fun, so this is the first time I'm going to a dealer to buy a new car (all my cars up to this point have been <5k beaters off Craigslist with well over 100k miles). Been looking around and I found a dealer nearby that has a '24 GR Corolla Premium coming in the next few weeks and asked me for a $500 deposit to reserve the car, so I put the deposit down. I think (without a lot of experience), that it’s a little tougher to do with some credit unions. Last car I bought I just did dealer financing and then immediately refinanced with my credit union, which required an annoying amount of documentation and paper work. This time (tentative delivery this morning) the credit unions rates are poo poo so I’m not bothering, but I did shop around and best I got was 5.79% from Bank of America, and was able to get a printed out letter of approval with dealer instructions on it that they supposedly can handle during delivery. Took less than 10 minutes.
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Deteriorata posted:Credit unions will almost always have the best rates. For what it’s worth this is not my lived experience; they’ve had best rates for me maybe a bit less than half the time. Most recently Bank of America had a much better rate than any other lender I looked at. This is more to say that you shouldn’t take as gospel that CUs have best rates and only get offers from them, not that they don’t have the best rates: always shop around at CUs as well as big banks.
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I sold a car a few months ago on Autotrader to a guy who flew in to pick it up (LA to Reno). It was fairly cold the morning I was driving down the hill to meet him (single digits F) and I got a late start so was aggressive with the defroster. There was a bang on the freeway halfway there and I watched as a crack extended in both directions across the windshield from the center over the course of 15 or so seconds. poo poo, sorry dude, I swear it wasn’t like this yesterday
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Yeah and you can also buy a brand new car with built-in wireless carplay that is hot loving garbage and fails to connect 80-90% of the time, or decides that you need to accept the terms again for some reason, or decides halfway through a drive to connect to the other phone. Looking at you, GM. I'm sure their Carplay competitor will be astounding. Astoundingly something other than good.
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Have you looked at Autotrader Private Seller Exchange? I sold a car through them fairly recently and it was fairly painless.
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skipdogg posted:Get the Lexus you want. That’s what I would do. Averaged 27mpg driving round trip to Mammoth from Tahoe last weekend, with a huge roof box on top, in a diesel Yukon. poo poo mileage, but can be a lost less poo poo
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DNK posted:Note: Diesel’s currently like 20% more expensive, and it’s been around that for at least the past year. It’s kind of a wash in terms of operating cost, but you can go further on a same-size tank. I’m not going to argue that other folks should go for it, but this is highly location dependent. For the 6 months or so we’ve owned it, where we are diesel has been either roughly the same as gas, or a good bit cheaper. My last fill up was $3.50/gal, and 87 octane at the same station was $4.40/gal.
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TheBacon posted:If you are filling on the CA side (which I assume you are) that means you are getting CA summer mix which is even more expensive than just normal CA higher gas prices. I assume you know but it is kind of relevant to the thread. Nope, those prices were at a Maverik in Minden NV. The price difference is actually smaller by quite a bit right now in CA. And anyway my point wasn’t “diesel is cheaper!”, it was “it depends on location, here is a counter example.” So, yeah, the summer mix price is relevant to the thread but not at all counter to my point
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