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Speaking of TLs im debating between an 04-08 TL vs 05-13 Lexus IS350 (not 250). The interior and engine (plus ~60hp with no mpg loss) seem superior in the Lexus but the body style is mediocre at best while I really like the clean lines in the TL. TLs tend to be about 2k+ less than IS and seen more frequently....thoughts between the two? I want a sporty/comfortable car, am comfortable going up to 20k, reliability/cost of ownership is big though. Ammanas fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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# ¿ May 19, 2024 19:23 |
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Also do you guys have opinions either way on buying from carmax?
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2016 01:55 |
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Aware. Back seat is storage space for me, rarely have 3+
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2016 03:54 |
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tater_salad posted:I would not recommend a new civic with what is basically a full re-design, it'll take time to make them reliable. Never buy a newly minted model on its birthyear. There's a substantive difference in the redesigned Civic - your point might have validity, there's already a small recall on the 2L engine models - but if you're going to buy a Civic, buy the new one.
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# ¿ May 11, 2016 18:05 |
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Blind spot detection yeah but lane drift and collision detection is freaking awesome. I really can't wait until we remove people from control of their vehicles and these are nice introductory features.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 00:04 |
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powderific posted:I've had great experiences selling cars to CarMax but have never and probably will never buy anything from them as their prices always seem way high. It varies by car but in CA's nuts used car market they are surprisingly reasonable. Especially considering at the end of the day, they are still a dealership.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2016 19:43 |
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FogHelmut posted:Tell me about this nuts used car market. Being the land of optimism every used car gets listed at 'perfect condition' prices whether or not the floorboards are intact.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2016 19:53 |
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powderific posted:^^^^ This ^^^^ Who cares about a no haggle policy when it's pricy enough that you could just go to the places where you do haggle, not haggle, and come out ahead? The answer is 'because dealerships'. Actually speaking of dealerships has anyone done the Costco auto buying thing? How'd that work out
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2016 21:29 |
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Chu020 posted:Proposed Budget: $20-25k Acura makes a TSX station wagon thats kinda ballin. Mid20s mpg, slightly sporty engine and great handling / ride. fairly rare. I'd like one but dont need the space
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2016 19:08 |
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"Chevrolet" is my guess.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2016 16:51 |
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Am i totally wrong about hyundai? In the 90s and early 2000s it was a lovely budget car. Mid 2000s they got their poo poo together and were building genuine competitive-with-japan sedans at a slightly lower price and a great warranty. Now it seems like its a strictly value brand again, to be avoided.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 20:46 |
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tater_salad posted:I'm 6' and fit comfortably in a 2013 accord. I4 or V6? Been considering an accord for a minute
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2016 23:05 |
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Phone posted:
Really enjoyed this post thanks, nice break from PRIUS PRIUS PRIUS
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 22:02 |
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I mean its not exactly fair, but the Genesis coupe is driven by the same/similar cohort that drives 350Zs: douchebags I also dont believe its fast enough if hes already discounted Lexus
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2016 03:38 |
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If you add the doc fee into the total does it feel like youre still getting a good deal? Thats the only question that matters.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 17:29 |
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Then pretend its part of the sale price and move on.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 18:41 |
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I've been in a prius c a few times and thought it was fine. What's the beef about
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2016 01:36 |
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4 normal-sized adults fit comfortably, no one buys a prius for the drag times and i imagine its markedly better to drive in the city due to its smaller footprint. The 'trunk' space is pretty small though.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2016 19:27 |
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So here's my ideal car: Under 30k, used/new. Hugely reliable. Mid-sized car. Decent accoutrements, cant be barebones but dont need rear end massager seats Punchy engine, no screamer but nothing i have to constantly downshift to get some go. At least 30mpg combined. There are cars that check some boxes (new civic hatch is my current target but worried its 170hp turbo isnt strong enough) but afaik none that check all. Wish Acura still made decent cars. I still want a mid-2000s TL but those i can find are way too high milage or salvage.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 23:30 |
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Nitrox posted:Civic is a mid size car now? Its larger than its been, on the small side of midsize. Im pretty fluid as far as that goes, just no tiny econoboxes and no VW GTIs. nm posted:Also remember that turbo motors that get decent EPA miles, tend to not get decent FE in the real world unless you drive like a major grandma. Also note that they get that FE with tall gearing, which keeps you in low RPMS, which means out of the boost, which means that even my 300hp car needs to be downshifted to get some oomph (unless I'm going pretty fast) despite being geared quite a bit lower than many cars. Punchy is slightly slower than my f4i Thats interesting about turbos cutting FE depending on use. Honda claims new civic gets 32 combined iirc. So far id like to test drive the new civic hatch, a mazda 3, and a focus...yeah im lukewarm-hatchin it baby Ammanas fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Oct 3, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 3, 2016 04:12 |
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Not to ignite a really dumb AI firestorm but stick in California traffic is a nightmare. Did it for two years and will never ever do again.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2016 06:26 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:What are the thoughts on the 2017 Civics? I had mentioned them previously, but I'm concerned about the issues people were having with the 2016 models. have those problems been ironed out at this point? They have not. I was really keen on the hatchback model but am leaning more toward a Mazda 3. No loving volume knob is so preposterous
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2016 19:32 |
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I actually wouldnt entirely discount the civic, just be aware its not flawless. Consumer reports rates Mazda 3s reliability as above average for whatever thats worth....they say audi are above average too which is like what?
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2016 05:57 |
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Tenacious J posted:For what's it's worth, I decided against the Mazda 3 because it has horrible visibility out the entire passenger side of the car when you're driving, including forward. Can you explain more please? Im trying to figure this out
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2016 06:55 |
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Ultimate Mango posted:To be fair that like what, $25k Usa fun bucks? Those are great cars but they are huge, heavy, and thirsty as hell.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2016 14:35 |
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Its because the Leaf is not a good car and the 'thrill' of an EV wears off super fast. There's a reason Tesla started with a luxury car.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2016 21:02 |
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Picked up a 17 Mazda 3 GT hatch. Compared to civic hatch. Cloth interior on civic is loving garbage and leather is merely ok. Cabin felt more spacious than the Mazda and feels larger, but the Mazda has an extremely nice interior (dumb hologram HUD notwithstanding). Honda has not fixed the essential problem with CVTs despite being hailed as one of the best CVTs on the market. After the rubberband effect the turbo does push the car well and it handles extremely nimbly - but so does the 3. Sport mode on the 3 floored me. The final cost for the 3 was around 2.5k less than the civic and came with nav. Honda salespeople at 2 dealerships were fairly rude and unhelpful, and it seems like Honda is not interested in moving on price.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2016 05:53 |
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The first Mazda dealer offered 27.5 otd. 2nd, through Costco pricing, was 26.3 + a $300 acquisition fee (pretty sure they were going to get the car i wanted at the first dealership). Called first dealer, they agreed to match 26.3. This is for the 2.5 GT in dark grey, with nav. Im in California.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2016 17:36 |
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Thermopyle posted:Personally, I wouldn't get the 2.0...I just don't see the point in it. It's noticeably weaker than the 2.5 for not a big enough gas mileage savings (IMO). Though I will say that the 2.0 is near the top of the heap for acceleration compared to it's competitors base-level engines. Mazda has put Speed line on hold until like 2020. Too bad. The CX-9 is really nice but pretty large. The cabin noise isn't bad but its not silent. The ride with the 18" wheels is fair, perhaps firm, but not bad. I 'borrowed' a Lexus IS350 from Carmax for 4 days and that was an absolute nightmare of road feel. A GTI probably has an equal-or-better ride, quieter cabin, faster engine, but it's a higher price point and from looking around, an awful reliability record. The 2.5 isn't the fastest car, but I don't really need it to be. 0-60 feels fast, stomping on the pedal pulls nicely, strong enough to break contact with the (mediocre dunlop) front tires. A manual or perhaps paddle shifters would be a blast. I have a relatively sedate commute, I wanted something with some punch and the 2.5 has enough for that. I didn't drive the smaller engines to compare but I'm pretty sure I would have been dissatisfied.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2016 20:39 |
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Ultimate Mango posted:Hay guyz, when purchasing a new ride how much do you normally pay for vin etching? Does $695 sound reasonable? Holy gently caress that is insulting.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 02:13 |
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Basically every car in America has an open recall due to the Takata airbag recall. Not really relevant
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2016 04:36 |
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Mazda 3 is what checks the most boxes. I have a '17 GT and enjoy everything about it except for its slightly bumpy ride but it's a trade-off
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2016 04:09 |
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Shoulda got a prius
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 20:41 |
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Fwiw when I was recently shopping Honda flat out wouldn't negotiate on price, I imagine Toyota can do the same. High demand for their products gives them a pretty secure foundation. Costco auto program pricing is pretty aggressive, if you're a member. I was pretty surprised to be honest. The new civic had a really awful interior, and a too-high MSRP.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 23:15 |
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AriTheDog posted:The Costco savings are poo poo. Just e-mail dealerships asking for their best out the door price given the trim and other details you want. You will save money over any Costco/Truecar/etc. CRV is a solid choice. The Costco price for my Mazda3 was by far the best price I was able to get out of a half-dozen dealerships.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2017 03:39 |
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It's like $100 above invoice. TrueCar is like $100 under MSRP (or, as in the case with the Civic hatchback I was pricing, MSRP).
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2017 04:31 |
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AriTheDog posted:My parents had this exact experience with Costco pricing. Dealer did the switcheroo. The fine print apparently doesn't forbid them from doing this. Either that, or they don't care. So costco pricing doesn't include things like taxes and dealer fees afaik, nor does it include things like manufacturer incentives etc. But if a dealership played a game with a Costco customer, your parents should really contact costco about it.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 20:45 |
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# ¿ May 19, 2024 19:23 |
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Mazda would be killing it if they could just get their brand into people's consciousness. Their lame commercials with a sleepy Aaron Paul don't exactly inspire
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 22:53 |