|
radlum posted:(also, Audrey was so good and they gave her such an awful ending). According to The Secret History of Twin Peaks, she survived the bank explosion. I was listening to a podcast where they insisted — and I guess this is a fairly common view — that Audrey should have been paired with Cooper rather than Annie. But I think it makes her a better character if she isn’t. She gets to have her own story rather than becoming someone for Cooper to rescue periodically.
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 13:39
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 5, 2024 08:11 |
|
|
Cooper should not have been paired with anybody. edit: Well, except for his true soul-mate Harry, but it would have taken some convincing to tear him away from Josie I think.
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 13:53
|
|
|
CJacobs posted:edit: Well, except for his true soul-mate Harry, That's a funny way to spell 'Albert'
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 13:57
|
|
|
cptn_dr posted:That's a funny way to spell 'Gordon Cole'
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 14:05
|
|
|
The first guy was right - Harry is Coop's soulmate.
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 14:22
|
|
|
Sgt. Politeness posted:I never really understood the doppelganger thing, it never seemed like a literal thing in the real world. I mean Bob possessed Leland and then he possessed Cooper, right? Bob was in Leland since he was a kid but relatively dormant until becoming increasingly violent and then taking full control, maybe Coop is fighting him. "The good Dale is in the Lodge, and he can't leave. Write it in your diary." fake edit: the important thing to remember is that this line was so important to Lynch that when it got cut from the finale, he found a way to fit it into FWWM. I don't think he'll let this thread go that easily.
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 14:33
|
|
|
CottonWolf posted:It made me grin like a maniac. Andy's too good for the town of Twin Peaks. I'm rewatching S2 and I love Andy so much but sometimes they go over the top, like when he's covered in post-its filling in at the reception desk.
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 19:52
|
|
|
He's a whole drat town!
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 20:22
|
|
|
Polo-Rican posted:The first guy was right - Harry is Coop's soulmate. No, no, no - Harry and Albert should be together.
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2017 21:52
|
|
|
SaintFu posted:According to The Secret History of Twin Peaks, she survived the bank explosion. It was so weird really that Audrey and cooper never spoke again after the rescue
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 05:59
|
|
|
SaintFu posted:According to The Secret History of Twin Peaks, she survived the bank explosion. Except her story...isn't that good. Everything with her after she and Coop stop interacting is pretty bad. It's clear that after they decided to not pair her with Coop they had no idea what to do with her. Obviously the best answer is to actually give her a good story, but I would have rather seen her take Annie's place than get John Justice Wheeler and the pine weasels.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 06:47
|
|
|
Billy Zane... bad? I am confused here.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 06:49
|
|
|
I feel like Audrey getting with Coop and it not being portrayed as weird and bad would pretty badly undercut the core themes about the abuse of young women by older men. It might have worked had Audrey been college aged (Which I think was even the original plan at some point?), but having the character as a high schooler makes it a bit gross.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 07:19
|
|
|
Raxivace posted:I feel like Audrey getting with Coop and it not being portrayed as weird and bad would pretty badly undercut the core themes about the abuse of young women by older men. It might have worked had Audrey been college aged (Which I think was even the original plan at some point?), but having the character as a high schooler makes it a bit gross. They should have gotten together and it should have been portrayed as weird and bad. That could have been how Cooper became susceptible to BOB's influence.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 07:39
|
|
|
Coops above that poo poo.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 07:45
|
|
|
Honestly, I never understood why they didn't go for a "Cooper trains Audrey as a potential FBI agent" angle. It feeds into Audrey's desire to see the world and get out of Twin Peaks and Cooper's always been a guy who'd rather people be prepared than go investigate against police orders.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 08:32
|
|
|
It has always kinda bothered me that they doubled back on Cooper being a no-relationship-drama dude in season 2. He's like the only character that doesn't partake in that stuff and actively removes himself from it when it starts up around him... and then it just happens anyway from a different source.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 08:45
|
|
|
CJacobs posted:It has always kinda bothered me that they doubled back on Cooper being a no-relationship-drama dude in season 2. He's like the only character that doesn't partake in that stuff and actively removes himself from it when it starts up around him... and then it just happens anyway from a different source. Thats cuz Season Two SUCKS!!!
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 08:49
|
|
|
Well, yeah but. What if Season 2. Didn't suck.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 08:52
|
|
|
Hot take: Actually, parts of series 2 are very good.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 11:57
|
|
|
That's a hot take? I don't usually start skipping stuff until James gets his awful side story. Even then, there are still some scenes that I wouldn't want to miss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ziHeJfibGc
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 12:44
|
|
|
I may not have been being 100% serious. But yeah, I agree. When I do rewatches of series 2, the only bits I actively skip are James' story, I tend to watch even the non-James bits in those episodes.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 13:38
|
|
|
Been introducing this to my girlfriend, and we've just passed the episode where the killer is revealed. She's absolutely terrified of Bob and Possessed Leland, and didn't ever suspect it might have been Leland. I was trying to pick up on any foreshadowing since I didn't first time, but didn't really see any apart from him offing Jacques which is very plausible anyway
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 13:57
|
|
|
CottonWolf posted:I may not have been being 100% serious. But yeah, I agree. When I do rewatches of series 2, the only bits I actively skip are James' story, I tend to watch even the non-James bits in those episodes. What about super-Nadine and little Nicky? Cause those are some bullshit storylines.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 16:24
|
|
|
regulargonzalez posted:What about super-Nadine and little Nicky? Cause those are some bullshit storylines. To my shame, super-Nadine amuses me in a "What the gently caress are they even doing?" type of way. Little Nicky is bad, but I'm a big fan of Andy, so there are enough scenes with him in that I sit through it.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 16:28
|
|
|
regulargonzalez posted:What about super-Nadine and little Nicky? Cause those are some bullshit storylines. Nadine has always been super: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRcYWYtn8mc I also get an immense amount of satisfaction out of her encounter with Hank. And More fucked around with this message at 17:19 on May 13, 2017 |
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 17:02
|
|
|
Fingerless Gloves posted:Been introducing this to my girlfriend, and we've just passed the episode where the killer is revealed. I'm doing my rewatch right now and noticed only one bit of forshadowing. When James is telling Truman about the tape Jacoby had, he mentions that Laura would "say some crazy stuff" like flicking lit cigarettes at him and asking "do you want to play with fire little boy," just like what BOB did to Leland. There's another small thing, but it doesn't make sense until the finale. The Log Lady brings Cooper a jar of liquid from the ring of sycamore trees at the lodge entrance that smells like burnt motor oil. Jacoby tells Cooper that the night Jacques Renault was killed at the hospital that he smelled burnt motor oil. I'm almost done with my rewatch; just saw the drawer knob scene again. Ugh. I might watch the fan-edit of FWWM this time since I already saw Missing Pieces on its own.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 17:29
|
|
|
Little Nicky was worth it for all the extra Dick Tremayne.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 17:29
|
|
|
It's so dumb, but this is still one of my favorite shots in the series:
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2017 23:23
|
|
|
Consummate Professional posted:A new trailer just dropped. https://www.facebook.com/TwinPeaksOnShowtime/videos/1515888728442100/ First two shots(staircase and passageway) are giving me definite Silent Hill vibes. Obviously that series was massively influenced by Lynch in any case, but it would be nice to think the influence went both ways.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 00:29
|
|
|
99 CENTS AMIGO posted:Little Nicky was worth it for all the extra Dick Tremayne. Are you still seeing this Dick? I'm almost finished my rewatch and the back end of season two isn't too terrible. Of course, I skipped literally every scene with James in it, but the Nadine plotline is just plain entertaining and Little Nicky means more Andy and Dick. The only parts that have been really difficult to sit through were Windom Earle's scenes - there's just no tension or menace there, despite everything he was built up to be.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 00:46
|
|
|
Fingerless Gloves posted:Been introducing this to my girlfriend, and we've just passed the episode where the killer is revealed. I mean in terms of foreshadowing: there's him smearing blood over her portrait, Coop snapping his fingers after he wakes up from his waiting room dream just as Leland had been earlier and Leland humping Laura's coffin.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 01:14
|
|
|
LostRook posted:I mean in terms of foreshadowing: there's him smearing blood over her portrait, Coop snapping his fingers after he wakes up from his waiting room dream just as Leland had been earlier and Leland humping Laura's coffin. Doesn't his hair turn white before then too? And there's the weird crazy dancing/singing he does. I guess those are only obvious bad signs in retrospect but even when they happen they feel bizarre.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 01:19
|
|
|
Also, way back in the pilot, when Truman comes to break the news and Leland is on the phone with Sarah, he tells her that Laura is dead without being told. You could say that he figured it out by context with her being unaccounted for and Truman's somber look, but she could have just had a car accident and been in the hospital too. Are we doing spoiler tags in this thread?
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 01:31
|
|
|
Didn't they wait a while before deciding who the killer was? Some of those clues could just be felicitous accidents, maybe even cues that helped the writers decide.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 01:46
|
|
|
business hammocks posted:Didn't they wait a while before deciding who the killer was? Some of those clues could just be felicitous accidents, maybe even cues that helped the writers decide. Well, Jacoby is practically gleeful when he first meets Coop, asking if he can see the body.  Edit: Can you imagine Twin Peaks Clue?  Like, even if you guessed the person who did it, was it really them? Also, after you solved the case, you then have to act out madlib-like scenarios between the remaining pieces for 18 minutes. In the last 2 minutes, you cut a hole in one of the rooms and keep one of your pieces there indefinitely. Next person moves 25 years later. Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 05:18 on May 14, 2017 |
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 05:14
|
|
|
business hammocks posted:Didn't they wait a while before deciding who the killer was? Some of those clues could just be felicitous accidents, maybe even cues that helped the writers decide. I thought the killer was always meant to be Leland, but then the BOB stuff came about when Lynch was asked to add a closed ending for the international version of the pilot and he liked the look of one of the grips on the set (who became BOB). I could be wrong, though.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 05:56
|
|
|
Fingerless Gloves posted:Been introducing this to my girlfriend, and we've just passed the episode where the killer is revealed. Another thing to notice is the reactions Sarah and Leland have to each other: Sarah screaming "What is going on in this house?" and then, at the funeral, "Don't ruin THIS too!" Also, at the beginning of episode 4 Leland basically mocks Sarah's visions in front of the police.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 05:58
|
|
|
CottonWolf posted:To my shame, super-Nadine amuses me in a "What the gently caress are they even doing?" type of way. Little Nicky is bad, but I'm a big fan of Andy, so there are enough scenes with him in that I sit through it. Super strong Nadine with amnesia also had plenty of mike, and mike was awesome.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 05:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 5, 2024 08:11 |
|
|
Anybody know is there any particular reason or story behind there being both a BOB and a Bobby, and two Mikes?
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2017 06:02
|
|