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Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Here4DaGangBang posted:

You lot are quiet, which I guess makes sense since it's been Winter in the US. I joined the HeroHD club the other day and took it for a test run last night, mounted to the tank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtIYuW8SVIc

Pretty happy with the results, except for the wind noise. Will try the waterproof back next time, or experiment with putting some foam over the mic holes in the housing.

That looks great, I really like that perspective. I think the best results with an unmodded GoPro require some post processing. If the compromise is between "muffled by plastic" and "distorted by wind" I'd go for the former and put some gain and EQ on it.

Also eagerly awating Z3n's spirited commute through forests and shopping malls.

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Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!

Ola posted:

That looks great, I really like that perspective. I think the best results with an unmodded GoPro require some post processing. If the compromise is between "muffled by plastic" and "distorted by wind" I'd go for the former and put some gain and EQ on it.

Also eagerly awating Z3n's spirited commute through forests and shopping malls.

Yeah, my next test will be with the waterproof back on it. I'm planning to get a pipe soon too which would boost the noise of the bike and make it sound MUCH nicer than it currently does and probably substantially louder, which could work well in conjunction with the waterproof back.

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

Here4DaGangBang posted:

You lot are quiet, which I guess makes sense since it's been Winter in the US. I joined the HeroHD club the other day and took it for a test run last night, mounted to the tank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtIYuW8SVIc

Pretty happy with the results, except for the wind noise. Will try the waterproof back next time, or experiment with putting some foam over the mic holes in the housing.
That is, I think, the perfect mount.
Bonus question: What's that red van thing?
Y'all get some lovely internet, and a nannystate second only to the UK, but drat, you guys have the best cars.

Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!

Jabs posted:

That is, I think, the perfect mount.
Bonus question: What's that red van thing?
Y'all get some lovely internet, and a nannystate second only to the UK, but drat, you guys have the best cars.

Haha, that's an old Ford Falcon panel van

Tell me about lovely internet - I'm on a cable connection with 256kbps upload (8Mb down), that vid took over 4.5 hours to upload to Youtube!

MrZig
Aug 13, 2005
I exist onl because of Parias'
LEGENDARY GENEROSITY.
Put it in the cycle video thread, but thought I'd put it here too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGB9KgRWKTw

1989 GSX-R 750 going up a local twisty road, filmed with the GoPro HD & suction cup mount. Not bad eh? Watcha guys think?

It is a little bouncy. I'm sure if I used an adhesive mount that could be fixed. Sound is good for what it is. No wind noise, really.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Looking great!

Think you could upload the raw video file somewhere? I'd like to have a go at some sound processing and see how much quality you can massage out of it.

MrZig
Aug 13, 2005
I exist onl because of Parias'
LEGENDARY GENEROSITY.

Ola posted:

Looking great!

Think you could upload the raw video file somewhere? I'd like to have a go at some sound processing and see how much quality you can massage out of it.

Looking at 330 mb for 720p and 70 mb for the windows movie maker compressed one. I dont have anywhere to upload that =\

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
I'll crosspost this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybEcG2OxR-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBgaNwIqIKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdvqnE92itU

The mount is just attached via a bent piece of metal bracket attached to the handlebars. Once I get an offroad helmet, I'll mount it to the helmet itself.

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker

MrZig posted:

Looking at 330 mb for 720p and 70 mb for the windows movie maker compressed one. I dont have anywhere to upload that =\

Upload the raw audio only, that'll cut down the size considerably.

Silver
May 12, 2001

Suzuki lover number one!
Got out my go pro(first edition, not even widescreen) today for a bit of running around. You'll notice little blip backs(?) where it seems to back up a fraction of a second at times, weird. Also I have the sound on high, reallllly need to kick it down to the Lo setting, I have done that now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiETFmJnjbg

:cheers:

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

MrZig posted:

Looking at 330 mb for 720p and 70 mb for the windows movie maker compressed one. I dont have anywhere to upload that =\

Just use any old free thing, like this: http://www.filesend.net/

The 70 meg version is plenty good enough.

Fantastipotamus
Nov 19, 2002

Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track.
What are you guys using for editing software? Does something like the HeroHD come with any sort of editing suite? And if so, is it even worth installing, or should I go with some other software that's better?

I'm trying very hard not to buy one after looking at this thread/youtube/etc. :(

schreibs
Oct 11, 2009

Fantastipotamus posted:

What are you guys using for editing software? Does something like the HeroHD come with any sort of editing suite? And if so, is it even worth installing, or should I go with some other software that's better?

I'm trying very hard not to buy one after looking at this thread/youtube/etc. :(

HeroHD doesnt come with any software unless you get a combo/bundle special. I've been looking for something better but I don't want to spend a bigger chunk of change on editing software than I did the camera...

MrZig
Aug 13, 2005
I exist onl because of Parias'
LEGENDARY GENEROSITY.

Ola posted:

Just use any old free thing, like this: http://www.filesend.net/

The 70 meg version is plenty good enough.

http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=f0dda2d54f8af6115fcfba601ddc6444

It's in .WMV format. Original is .MP4

schreibs
Oct 11, 2009

MrZig posted:

http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=f0dda2d54f8af6115fcfba601ddc6444

It's in .WMV format. Original is .MP4

e: yep didn't notice the post above asking for the raw file and downloaded this to watch :eng99:

schreibs fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Mar 8, 2010

MrZig
Aug 13, 2005
I exist onl because of Parias'
LEGENDARY GENEROSITY.

schreibs posted:

You know as long as it is under 2GB that youtube will take it in almost any format and convert it to include both SD and HD resolutions? Im sure most people here would love to watch this but it is so much more convenient to stream it.

It's right here. A few replies up you'll see I already posted it, Ola just wanted a better quality one to use to edit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGB9KgRWKTw

I didn't upload the 330mb to youtube because the 70mb one took an hour and a half to upload.

Sorry if I misunderstood you?

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

MrZig posted:

http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=f0dda2d54f8af6115fcfba601ddc6444

It's in .WMV format. Original is .MP4

Awesome, thanks! I have the day off so will fiddle with it and see what comes out.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Fantastipotamus posted:

What are you guys using for editing software? Does something like the HeroHD come with any sort of editing suite? And if so, is it even worth installing, or should I go with some other software that's better?

I'm trying very hard not to buy one after looking at this thread/youtube/etc. :(
Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty easy to use. I think you have to convert the video files from a GoPro for it to use them, though. I'm pretty sure it's free for Windows XP and up. Macs come with iMovie, so there's that if you're on that side of the fence.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Ok, that was a bit harder than I thought.

http://djmarvin.org/mp3/moto.mp3

You can EQ away all the resonant bits and boost all the muffled bits but result is pretty awful. I put on a crackle/click filter which took the brunt of vibration artefacts. Then I EQ'd away the lowest bass rumble and some mid range resonance, then boosted the poo poo out of the top end to save some clarity. Then some sound boost with a compressor preset. Slightly better but not more. So as a general rule of thumb for GoPro users, it's not really worth much effort if you think the audio is fine to begin with, perhaps just a slight boost of the volume. If you do want audio improvement, it needs to come from the source area first. Drilling holes in the case and so on.

In the world of youtube bike vids, a muffled engine sound is 100x better than white noise wind blast and 10x better than random music.

edit: if you want to do a quick A/B comparison, it needs a bit of fiddling due to the mp3 being a few seconds behind. Don't know why as I didn't edit it, but something was dropped somewhere I suppose. Start the mp3 in an mp3 player, hit pause just after some easily recognizable sound like the engine starting. Then play the .wmv in another player and unpause the mp3 in the same spot. Tricky to get it just right, if one is slightly ahead you can give it a quick dab of play/pause. Then mute/unmute to compare the difference.

Ola fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Mar 8, 2010

Fantastipotamus
Nov 19, 2002

Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track.

Endless Mike posted:

Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty easy to use. I think you have to convert the video files from a GoPro for it to use them, though. I'm pretty sure it's free for Windows XP and up. Macs come with iMovie, so there's that if you're on that side of the fence.
Thanks, no Mac here, but maybe I'll ask for one for my birthday, which is upcoming.

needknees
Apr 4, 2006

Oh. My.
Tried a new mounting location with my GoProHD. I put it on my tank(airbox cover) as far back as I could without getting into the curved portion that leads up to the filler cap. It needs to be a little higher, and I was hoping for a little wider viewing angle when filmed in 1280x720 but it's not bad. Audio is pretty drat good behind the windscreen. This is using the waterproof cover, highest speed is around 85mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrKz-XqIak8

The thing that bothers me is the crazy oscillation I'd get at certain speeds -- I honestly was surprised the video turned out as well as it did considering the funky dance the camera housing was doing. It seems pretty smooth under acceleration and braking though, so it'll probably be fine for trackdays and such, but I would like to get rid of it if possible. Any ideas or suggestions on mounting locations? I'm actually considering sticking the little bastard on the front of the fairing but I'm vain and don't want the mount ruining the looks of the bike :(.

edit --

Endless Mike posted:

Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty easy to use. I think you have to convert the video files from a GoPro for it to use them, though. I'm pretty sure it's free for Windows XP and up.

What are you using to convert the video? I'm a complete newb when it comes to video editing.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Very nice vid needknees. Goddamn that RR can shift.

edit: the shaking is the camera mount resonating on a particular rev and showing up as shutter wobble . You could try adding some weight to the camera mount to change it's resonant frequency, but it's not too bad as it is.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



needknees posted:


What are you using to convert the video? I'm a complete newb when it comes to video editing.
I don't have a GoPro yet, so I'm just repeating what I've read on various forums.

lokigoesrawr
Nov 18, 2004

roar.

needknees posted:

The thing that bothers me is the crazy oscillation I'd get at certain speeds -- I honestly was surprised the video turned out as well as it did considering the funky dance the camera housing was doing. It seems pretty smooth under acceleration and braking though, so it'll probably be fine for trackdays and such, but I would like to get rid of it if possible. Any ideas or suggestions on mounting locations? I'm actually considering sticking the little bastard on the front of the fairing but I'm vain and don't want the mount ruining the looks of the bike :(.

Mine on the suction mount did the same thing. Video still seems decent enough, though. Supposedly iMovie has a vibration cancellation filter thing that detects and compensates for it (taking ages to complete), but I don't have a mac to try it out on.

needknees
Apr 4, 2006

Oh. My.

lokigoesrawr posted:

Mine on the suction mount did the same thing. Video still seems decent enough, though. Supposedly iMovie has a vibration cancellation filter thing that detects and compensates for it (taking ages to complete), but I don't have a mac to try it out on.

This was using one of the adhesive mounts :saddowns:. I never really could get the suction cup mount to work well enough to trust it on the bike, but I was screwing with it in the cold so that probably didn't help.

I'm not really sure if it's more related to the mount or what, but honestly I think a lot of it has to do with how flimsy the tank/airbox cover is on my bike. It's flexy enough that at the right windspeed the camera housing hits the correct frequency to make everything go all crazy.

I'm going to try it with the heavier, taller curved mount and see if that helps. Shucks, that means I need to go on another ride! :haw:

Crayvex
Dec 15, 2005

Morons! I have morons on my payroll!

Ziploc posted:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120505782219

Why doesn't someone just take the lenses out of these?

I actually bought those sun glasses/video camera things for $20 shipped. Unfortunately they are too big to fit under a helmet but the video quality is decent considering what I paid for them. It looks really easy to take them apart. The question is what should I do with them?

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice
My vote would be for putting it inside of your helmet somehow. That seems to be the easiest way to cut down on windblast noise for cheap cameras.

edit: The disassembled camera housing, that is. Can't tell from the picture, but I assume it's not very big.

Silver
May 12, 2001

Suzuki lover number one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmRGBNHJtoc

On both mine(first gen) and my buddies(widescree) go pros you get these little dial backs. If you watch the video you'll see about three places where it skips back about 2-3 seconds. I didn't edit the video, just put in the CRAZY AWESOME TECHNO!

-Inu-
Nov 11, 2008

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY CUBIC CENTIMETERS
What song is that?

Silver
May 12, 2001

Suzuki lover number one!
It's uhh, yeah I dunno. I was going on shuffle and it went with my friends mix CD from some DJ in Dallas, which wasn't that great till that part, so I took that part and cut it out and spliced it with itself so that it looped nicely. PM or IM if you want the original or the cut that's in the video thingy.

/rockstar!

kylej
Jul 6, 2004

Grimey Drawer
First test with my new GoPro HD -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVbzv48Grks&fmt=22

A perfect day yesterday to test out color balance and mic ability. I had a strong cross wind blowing into the camera but it didn't blow out the sound too badly, and the camera held its colors well despite the cloudiness.

I'm using the r2 setting with a Kingston 16gig Class 4 SD card mounted right behind my visor.

Fantastipotamus
Nov 19, 2002

Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track.
Looks pretty good. I didn't get one for my bday, and we're trying to buy a house, so I don't think I'll be able to spend the $300 for one anytime soon. Ahh well. :)

Jaz
Dec 24, 2005

Part of the internet...
Found a plugin for Virtualdub that does a good job of removing vibration.

ContourHD on old highway makes for a rather unpleasant amount of vibration. Look at the top of the picture to see the work the plugin is doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F52WezjMhHE

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Just saw this on Gizmodo. http://www2.oregonscientific.com/atc9k/

Looks like an ok alternative to a Go Pro HD. Also gets you a waterproof cam for the same price. Just need to see about the helmet mounts they have.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

I considered it, but it seems pretty lovely.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oregon+scientific+motorcycle&aq=f

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Ola posted:

I considered it, but it seems pretty lovely.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oregon+scientific+motorcycle&aq=f

Those are all of the old ATK2K, which was lovely. The new one should be significantly better, as that thing is ancient.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Doh! Sorry about that. My brain read 2K for some reason, perhaps I'm holding some grudge to it. Their website doesn't seem very updated though...it's about the same price as a GoPro so would like to see a demo vid.

kylej
Jul 6, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Biggest problem I've had with the GoPro is how washed out all the colors are. Color correction requires editing and then generating HD video which is such a pain.

Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!

Ola posted:

That looks great, I really like that perspective. I think the best results with an unmodded GoPro require some post processing. If the compromise is between "muffled by plastic" and "distorted by wind" I'd go for the former and put some gain and EQ on it.

So, long time since an update, but further to the above, I did actually test the HeroHD with the sealed back on the case. Unfortunately the sound quality was terrible, despite not having wind noise, and I didn't post the results here. I'll do so now, just for reference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0UcDX2mRDg

Dissatisfied with both of these results, I decided a while ago that some quality audio was going to be a necessity if I was going to get some fulfilling video out of this thing. I didn't do much about this for a long time, but recently I had a brain wave: could I salvage a pair of Sony MDR-V700DJ headphones which were no longer wearable, and use the drivers to make a stereo microphone?

Turns out I could!

The whole rig consists of a length of cardboard packing tube with a driver held in each end with some duct tape, and a cube of upholstery foam on each end, with a hole cut into it to accept the tube. Now that I know it works, I will carve the foam a bit to remove all the sharp edges on it, and cover the whole shebang in some faux fur, to try and cut down even more on wind noise.

The audio for this clip was recorded on a MiniDV camcorder, I will also be trying a digital voice recorder and a minidisc recorder with this setup. My bike gained a nice pipe since the first two vids, so that accounts for the different bike sound.

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Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Well done!

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