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Those triangular ones always looked a bit off to me. If you want peak 900 spicy wheels, get the inca ones.
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Too spicy for me! I like the ones on this car quite a lot though. No rims are low priority anyway. I am more interested in finding stuff like -Factory original cassette player -Factory sound system -Saab louvres for sedan The last one seems a rarity.
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Been cleaning out the ancestral home, a respite to chilis since the early days of the Reagan administration. Good news, no-one's died. Gooder news, I found this cool SAAB book for the coffee table. Also, I'm the kinda person that now owns a coffee table.  
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SAAB 99: SAAB 900:  Bonus SAAB 9000:  Bonus SAAB 340. A plane I've ridden in a dozen times or so. 
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His Divine Shadow posted:Too spicy for me! I like the ones on this car quite a lot though. No rims are low priority anyway. Louvres are a rarity, and it will likely take you a while to find some, though you might have more luck being closer to Sweden! Currently there is a set of 99/900 hatchback louvres on UK ebay for £750! I actually found a set of louvres for my 99 sedan earlier this year from a random guy on facebook who seems to sell a lot of them, and they were brand new old stock and only cost £300 including shipping from Poland->UK. Keep an eye on this facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/2668775176552732. The 900 sedan rear is different to the 99 sedan. His Divine Shadow posted:I never cared for those tri tip rims however. The ones on the car I am going to look at are much nicer. Though the best rims where on the green metallic saab. these ones are the fancy deeper/wider 3 spokes. I think the standard 3 spokes look good in a darker colour. I've got a ratty old set which i am thinking of painting gold! If you are looking at wheel swaps, the hub/wheel stud spacing changed on the 900 around 1987 (at the same time as the headlight panel went from flat to sloping), so you need to buy the right ones for the car you end up with!
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There were a couple of different manufacturers for the louvres I think: Thermoform and Auto-Plas.
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I hope they are more common over here yes. Those are nope prices. The seller told me the car had been broken into once, or attempted at least    Seller said the locks are fully functional but marred, he recommended swapping them entirely from another car. But is it not possible to swap just the damaged metal covers? I'm getting an impression that 900s are a car that often gets broken into. I wonder why. I am lucky enough that I live in a place where we generally never lock our cars, but I am still getting worried, have to visit the city from time to time. Should I install an alarm system... I do think I would like to install an after market remote.
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Swapping the whole locks over is pretty easy. I have never managed to get the barrel and metal bit out of a door lock. The ignition barrel can be swapped fairly easily too (or just keep 2 keys). There are some "security" bolts on the ignition which are easy to get past with a small chisel or by hacking a socket up with a grinder, and then there is a release procedure for the barrel. I would fit a hidden immobiliser switch rather than an alarm. Easy enough to cut a wire somewhere and hide a switch in the dash. You could also fit a tracker and/or something like an airtag.
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His Divine Shadow posted:I'm not going to like that red interior ever... I've posted these pics before, and neither shows that fantastic interior but this was a great car to sit in for an exciting day.  SCO 2011 TSD 1 by Martin Brummell, on Flickr SCO 2011 TSD 14 by Martin Brummell, on FlickrFound a crystal ball under the passenger seat. I believe it helped us to our silver-medal finish. My Saab 900 (NG, newer than anything you're lusting after) was stolen but the thieves took my keys from the kitchen so the locks were not damaged. The transmission was destroyed, though, we think they shifted into reverse from 4th at some high speed.  **** Speaking of my 1998 900 S Convertible, we managed to get the seized roof motor un-seized and it's back on the road though the roof is not moveable. The control unit for the roof detected a fault (probably when I was pushing the raised-to-vertical 5th Bow back and forth to diagnose the seized motor) and shut everything down. Now it beeps at me at low speeds and tells me to check the latches, but is otherwise fine. I've been led to believe that re-setting the computer requires a Saab Tech 2 scanner device, and that this device is essentially a more sophisticated OBD II scanner. Buying one seems like it would cost close to $1000 (Australian), there are established alternatives from a Chinese company for around $400-$500, but I found a Saab-specialist mechanic in Queensland willing to hook up his Tech 2 for the usual price he charges to reset engine-management systems ($100); he said he's never tried on a roof before but happy to give it a go. So, I think I just need to make plans to drive 6 1/2 hours each way to the Sunshine Coast and find a place to stay overnight. Not a problem, it's just a matter of choosing the right weekend. But! I thought I'd check in here in case anyone has any advice about what might or should happen when Tech 2 meets roof control computer. Anything I need to do ahead of time, or watch out for?
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Can you get at the roof-control computer? I would be tempted to open it up and see if there's a convenient way to reset it from there.
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I may be wildly off, but my understanding was that any GM Tech 2 scanner would work. But it wouldn't surprise me if it requires a special license or firmware.
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Tomarse posted:Swapping the whole locks over is pretty easy. I have never managed to get the barrel and metal bit out of a door lock. I was thinking of the Magnavolt car alarm His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Midsummers eve today, which is 2nd largest holiday after christmas here. Extended family met at the summer cottage for a big dinner and during the evening as the talk somehow steered into cars for a bit I joked I'd rather buy an old Volvo 740 than most new cars today and my mom saids "well better a Volvo than a bloody Saab! I hope you don't buy one of those, ugliest cars ever. You come home in one of those and I'll lock the door." Of course then she said "you know I see what you write on facebook right?". I've been writing on a saab group there. lol, welp.
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NFX posted:I may be wildly off, but my understanding was that any GM Tech 2 scanner would work. But it wouldn't surprise me if it requires a special license or firmware. I tried contacting the local Holden dealership and the one bodyshop in town that shows up on Holden's find-a-service-centre listing. The dealership is moving full-Mitsubishi and got rid of all of their GM-specific stuff ("The owners took it back") and the bodyshop hasn't gotten back to me. The information I've seen online about the Saab Tech 2 is that it has the necessary security-software things to access deeper functions of a late-90's Saab. Seat Safety Switch posted:Can you get at the roof-control computer? I would be tempted to open it up and see if there's a convenient way to reset it from there. His Divine Shadow - buy the Saab anyway. You'll have 6 months to convince your incorrect family members about the virtues of Sweden's other car manufacturer.
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Oh it sucks my mom hates Saabs, though she was kinda trolling me, I think? But can't let your mom rule your life either when you are 40+ and have two kids of your own.
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Tomorrow I have to get up at an obscene time to catch my 5:44 AM train. I wonder if the ride home will be like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkT3M5gb2d0&t=1s
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Aand home! https://i.imgur.com/PEH1MZH.mp4 So the car is fun to drive, but does have it's issues but I think nothing too major? -Key retention unless reverse no longer works -Various rust issues (photos) -Probably needs a bunch of new various vacuum hoses -Seller says it ought to need a new rotor and pointed out two belts he thought I should replace -I tried looking at the drive shaft tunnels but they didn't look or feel rusty. -Some ground and connection issues with the rear lights -The indicator lever doesn't want to reset on it's own in one direction, seller says a piece is missing but replacements can be bought. -The drivers seat sags at the rear where you sit so you sink down, he passenger seat doesn't do that. I need to fix this because it wasn't good for my back after driving 400km. -I love cruise control! I got a mileage of around 8-8.5l/100km or 27-29 mpg. I think I could get it to do better with some engine service. -Seller has only ever used fully synthetic 5W-40 motor oil and I believe the papers showed it being used back for a very long time. I got another set of rims with studded winter tires, the tires look new and the rims are the saab aeros, looking to be in fine shape too. But I prefer the rims on the car now.  Also gave me some speakers and I dunno what they're called, splitters? For hooking up tweeters I believe.  Some of the rust, also old rust protection that's starting to let go. I want to wet sand blast the bottom of the car to get it clean and rust free, then perhaps epoxy coat the bottom, followed by Dinitrol ML and then a thicker product. I mean it will become a summer car only but I think I want to do that anyway.    Worst I found so far:  Getting up at 4 and taking the train for so long was pure hell. I haven't taken a train in 20 years and I was nervous the whole way about how to go about it and super afraid of getting at the wrong place, but VR and their app made everything very easy actually. Same with the net services and transferring ownership of the car. It's now mine in the papers. Seller was a nice guy I felt too. Had 5 saabs but was getting rid of them all, this was the last one.Family reasons, focus on the kids when young and such. Also had bees!
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He even called me up now to say: -Check I got back alright -Don't change the oil, keep using a good quality full synthetic. -Buy a new rotor and put it in the glove box, this is a part that can fail suddenly and it's cheap and easy to replace so keep one in the car at all times. More photos    More rust, homemade trim  Some rustyness going on near the drive tunnels, it will need corrective action eventually. I just put Dinitrol ML on everything after I tried getting most of the crud off.   Homemade anti theft system, remove the red key and the car won't start. Says he puts it in the cigarette tray between the seats. 
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 His Divine Shadow posted:-Key retention unless reverse no longer works His Divine Shadow posted:-The drivers seat sags at the rear where you sit so you sink down, he passenger seat doesn't do that. I need to fix this because it wasn't good for my back after driving 400km. His Divine Shadow posted:But I prefer the rims on the car now.
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I am lucky that "Svenska Saabklubben" has a spare parts store with just about everything in the way of Saabs, they even had the exact repair kit for the drivers seat, about 25 euros. This is the audio related equipment I got with:    I don't know what this is supposed to be, amplifier / bass perhaps, the seller was an audio guy and played the drums.  Not hooked up, a lot of the audio stuff wasn't really working properly.  Don't like this method of attaching the front bumper on the passenger side, seller did point it out himself though, not sure how to fix it, but surely a nicer solution can be found. 
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Continuing my investigation into this car and basically knowing nothing about engines yet being willing to life the motor out and disassemble it anyway. 1st thing is that there are a bunch of cables here not connected to anything. There also seems to be a missing connection where the coolant hose mounts. PO said he wasn't sure what they did, but wondered if it had AC and got it deleted. I can see the brackets for mounting an AC compressor that's empty. But I assume they might all have had the same standardized parts so you could add that on later, so it doesn't tell me anything.  Also mystery connection here  Forgot to take a photo but on the other side there seems to be a large gold colored resistor mounted. Also two mystery connections inside the car on the passenger side. Think they have to do with the POs audio stuff, I'm contemplating yanking all that audio stuff out.
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His Divine Shadow posted:There also seems to be a missing connection where the coolant hose mounts Could be the bleeder nipple mentioned on page 261-4 of the cooling system document here https://www.saabnet.com/tsn/faq/manuals/C900.html.
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Oh yeah that's exactly what that is. Just wondering about the loose connections then.
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I removed the back shelf today because it was sagging a lot in the center. I was thinking maybe I could repair it, stiffen it up maybe. But removing it was such a PITA that I broke it further. Couldn't even find any guides on how to do it in the manuals linked earlier, not for the sedan model anyway. Problem was the rear shelf is screwed in on each side and the screws are not easily accessible either, and it's a 7mm hex bolt screw which is even fussier to remove. It was entirely hidden inside the pillar trim and I did not see a good way to remove it either so i just pushed it in to access the screws. Last one wouldn't budge and I tore it out, it was kinda flimsy hardboard. I am leaning towards building an entirely new shelf from thin plywood and wood as support, perhaps I can reuse the red trim. I guess a new shelf could be bought but I thought it was a really dumb way to attach it so I don't plan on getting another one. There are other more easily accessible fastening points I think will suffice.  Bass thingy removed and there's another connector there not hooked up at all, but I know what it is now and I also know what one of the mystery connectors up front are for. It's all connected to this. Realized what it was when I noticed it said Nokia on it. It's the small antenna on the roof. This car had a mobile phone back when it was new, the old net then was called NMT or Nordic Mobile Telephone standard.  Says "NOKIA-MOBIRA OY VK 59", googling that shows me these old phones that look like suitcases. I guess there's no real use for that old antenna anymore.
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Sweet car! a non aircon car wouldn't normally have any aircon compressor brackets so maybe yours has had it removed? that is a bleeder for the cooling system. collapsing seats is normal. buy some base repair kits, and if they come as a metal version (the original is fabric), but a sheet of material ontop to stop the metal cutting into the 40 y.o knackered foam. The foam in my seats had disintegrated too so i had to use an electric carving knife to chop some foam up into new pieces! That rust doesn't look bad! dont start poking it too hard until the end of the summer if you have any roadworthyness inspections to do incase it gets worse. You could likely just treat and paint all that and live with it anyway (if its not an inspection thing) Ive never done the shelf in a 2 door 900, but if the material it is made from is anything like the headlining (which i have done a lot of), you can rebuild it by using PVA glue and channelling your papermache skills. use a PVA/water mix, and give it multiple coats and it will strengthen it. Reinforce it or paper mache it up as required. loads of pictures of headlining repair in my 99 thread i think! Tomarse fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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Thanks! Well it just passed an inspection so I don't have to worry about that until May 2024 at least. I want to have a better look after summer at what's behind the wheels I do think there will be welding required there some time. I also noticed the part around the trunk release handle is all rusted as well, it's a hidden place so you cannot see it, but I want to get that fixed later as well. The shelf, well at this stage I would prefer to manufacture a new one, I have been thinking about it and 18mm MDF might be better choice for it as well. I could not see a good way to remove the trim on the rear "pillars" to get at the side attachment points, I don't think they just pop out and back in. e: Also I really enjoyed my kids reactions when they saw the car, they thought it was a really cool car. Daniel said something like "Dad I thought an old car would be crap, but this one's real cool!"  And even my wife commented last night that the car looks real nice actually. It's nice to hear that.
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Here's some more shots. I wonder if I should make a thread for this car, or just keep posting here? Anyway I am no expert but it looks to me like there's a bracket there that should take something, also two mount holes nearby. Looks to me like something could've been mounted there before and based on the location it would be the AC compressor.  Also changed the oil today. Rear gearbox looking a mite wettish, hmm. PO said the exhaust was replaced last year.  Tried getting a shot of the drive shaft tunnel and such while I was under there, but eh best I got for now. 
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His Divine Shadow posted:Here's some more shots. I wonder if I should make a thread for this car, or just keep posting here? Those 2 holes in the head are where the aircon bracket would mount but every engine has them. The hook on the back of the waterpump is just the standard engine lifting point. just looking like a standard non-aircon car quote:Also changed the oil today. Could also be a loose bolt on the driveshaft drive mount. Check they are all tight. You can see the speedo drive cable at the top back of this photo (Its hard to tell what it is initially to a saab newbie!). it shouldn't be leaking from this. His Divine Shadow posted:The shelf, well at this stage I would prefer to manufacture a new one, I have been thinking about it and 18mm MDF might be better choice for it as well. I could not see a good way to remove the trim on the rear "pillars" to get at the side attachment points, I don't think they just pop out and back in. The c-pillar trims are made of some material covered foamy stuff which is very fragile. They have some form of christmas tree clip inset in the back which you can carefully lever out to remove them  be very careful removing them as the foam will be fragile Tomarse fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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Excellent, well done! What are your plans for the studded tires? I had a BMW 328is in Canada and I only had the studded tires for a few months before the engine ironically overheated on a very cold day and killed the car, but they were amazingly good in a Canadian winter. You said this is a summer car, are you going to never drive it in snow?
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The tires are the right size for my 2005 Mazda 6 so it will get them, so that saves me having to buy new winter tires for that car for a few years. All my cars ('07 Yaris and aforementioned Mazda) that I drive in winter get studded tires put on in november and taken off in april. But yeah this car will only be driven around late April to sometime in October. They salt the roads here so none of that for this car. This is My Summer Car.
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I'm working on a new rear shelf at the moment. Considering if I should use all four speakers, or just the two larger ones. I am not much of an audio guy, but since I got them I don't know what else to do with them. And maybe this speaker layout isn't the best either, I need to do some research  Lower frame not attached yet, I wanted to position the plywood as well as I could before attaching it. It will be glued into place when done. Should be very overkill strong.   Still got parts to make and fit however. Now I wonder where I can buy fabric of the right color to match the original? When it's done I want it to look like it could have come with the car.
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Took the Saab to my uncles funeral yesterday. He seemed like a big shot, hearing my other uncle talk about him later on during the memorial. Traveled the world around multiple times. Worked as an engineer first in Stockholm, and then went back to ostrobothnia and worked at VLT (Vasa Läns Telefon) head of the section responsible for building out the broadband infrastructure in this region, as well as way earlier getting the first digital switches from France integrated into the phone system, during which he learned french. Also got invited to Brussels for his EU knowledge during the years leading up to Finland joining the EU. Not that he wasn't a person without flaws, I remember him being intensely religious and denying evolution as well as being strongly anti-nuclear and parroting some very unscientific opinions that I felt it was strange such an otherwise intelligent person could believe that. I remember I even once responded to him in a public debate. He often wrote in the local papers comment sections, until 12 years ago or so when he had a set of mini strokes and that basically ended him being an independent person who could debate other people. Then it was a slow decade long decline sadly. But I managed to keep my Saab purchase secret from my parents until after the funeral. After the burial and heading to the memorial service we where walking to the parking lot and just nicely happened to pass by my Saab first. My mom said something like, it's a car like this you want huh? And I said, "yeah I think I'll take it", then I fished out the keys and opened it and it was her turn to be flabbergasted. "WHAT? This is your car??!" Lmao I say! And god how I enjoy a car where I can change the oil filter from ABOVE the car, unlike my mazda that needs to accessed underneath and have a billion bolts removed to remove the under cover armor. Everything on this car is just so nicely designed for being able to service on it. I'm mostly doing small things now, like I removed and cleaned up the license plate and replaced the rusty screws that left rusty streaks on the plate itself. Why use screws that rust on a place like this. Oh well I used black oxided slotted screws so I bet they won't last either. But they look classy for now. Need to get stainless I guess.  The rear shelf is assembled and the two larger speakers are installed. Looking for a local place to buy some fabric. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Jul 2, 2023 |
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Learned about the APC boxes and the so called red boxes. I am pretty sure I got the lamest APC box () that gives 160HP only. But apparently you can adjust a few pots inside the box, or swap in a red box (apparently the same thing, just different pot settings) and get 185 hp (optimal conditions). Sounds pretty sweet. Anyway more small stuff, cleaned the rims, got some wheel cleaning spray and it really improved the look of the wheels:  Also lol that is is a real product, I mean the sticker, I want it.  I also got a lead on a 900 sedan Louvre! And the guy is near, on my way to work even. Still waiting to hear what he wants for it though....
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That is a fine looking car. Very nice. And LOL at that sticker - I've heard of insane anti-carjacking systems in South Africa where, apparently, blatant vigilantism is legal (flames shooting out from under the doors, etc.) but I was under the impression that kind of thing was very illegal almost everywhere else.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Learned about the APC boxes and the so called red boxes. I am pretty sure I got the lamest APC box () that gives 160HP only. But apparently you can adjust a few pots inside the box, or swap in a red box (apparently the same thing, just different pot settings) and get 185 hp (optimal conditions). Sounds pretty sweet. Yes, you can tweak the pots in it! You can also add a knock LED to it (and should do before you tweak it) I assume it also doesn’t have an intercooler? The 900 IC kit is a nice one to have if you can find one! It has some different hoses and slots in behind one headlight.
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You made me worried there, I had go out and check the engine and it does have an intercooler, I did read all turbo badged 900s ought to have the full package. Also verified the numbers on the APC module as the 160HP model. Seems just the APC module which differs. Will look into the knock-LED thingy
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ExecuDork posted:That is a fine looking car. Very nice. Oh this isn't a real system, it's a robocop 2 reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtqRir7dco
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