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I Am Hydrogen
Apr 10, 2007

TreFitty posted:

I've got lots of experience in Java, .NET (C# and VB, ASP and Windows), and PHP. Any locations you could recommend starting a search? Should I be in country before I start searching or is it not a waste of time to apply from here in Korea?

You can try applying from outside of the country, but anyone interested is going to want to call you, and I'm not sure how keen they'll be on calling an international number. Plus there's the whole interview thing. Might be worth a try though. I didn't start applying until I entered the country.

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Xplosive
Apr 23, 2004

And he's bad as can.
I'm leaving for Brisbane/Gold Coast soon and wondering what the best bank is to sign up for before I go? Looking for one that is everywhere.

brendanwor
Sep 7, 2005

Xplosive posted:

I'm leaving for Brisbane/Gold Coast soon and wondering what the best bank is to sign up for before I go? Looking for one that is everywhere.

Westpac/St George (same company basically) or Commonwealth Bank are the most common.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

I Am Hydrogen posted:

You can try applying from outside of the country, but anyone interested is going to want to call you, and I'm not sure how keen they'll be on calling an international number. Plus there's the whole interview thing. Might be worth a try though. I didn't start applying until I entered the country.

Even if you can't walk into a job, there's definitely not a lack of jobs in the other industries where you can do menial work, i.e. Day labouring, or working in in retail till you get a job in your preferred industry, pay isn't too bad in most of these areas. i.e. 600-800 per week depending on hours and age. At least you'll survive.

Also if you have a qualified trade, builder, plumber, carpenter, etc, there's plenty of work in and around the brisbane area.

TreFitty
Jan 18, 2003

BlindSite posted:

Even if you can't walk into a job, there's definitely not a lack of jobs in the other industries where you can do menial work, i.e. Day labouring, or working in in retail till you get a job in your preferred industry, pay isn't too bad in most of these areas. i.e. 600-800 per week depending on hours and age. At least you'll survive.

Also if you have a qualified trade, builder, plumber, carpenter, etc, there's plenty of work in and around the brisbane area.
I think this is probably going to be my strategy. Arrive, get a crap job, then job hunt for programming/sys admin work. Thanks for affirming that this would work.

However, I still have a question: where would one live in such a situation? Would it be best to hit up classifieds to find people that are looking for temporary live-ins?

Mr Dalliard
Nov 3, 2008

Please point out the errors in my Na'vi grammar

I Am Hydrogen posted:

You can try applying from outside of the country, but anyone interested is going to want to call you, and I'm not sure how keen they'll be on calling an international number.

I had two phone interviews, both over half an hour, before I got my job offer. So it is possible.

TreFitty
Jan 18, 2003

Mr Dalliard posted:

I had two phone interviews, both over half an hour, before I got my job offer. So it is possible.
I'm considering getting this as well and getting a Skype number they can call.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
For anyone heading to Sydney, the inner west is a good area to look for a place to live, particularly for share houses.



You're basically on the edge of the CBD, which is in the top RH corner (George St is the main street). I'm currently paying $200 a week in a 3 bedroom apartment in a new secure building with parking in Newtown. If you don't need parking you can definitely pay less. Shitloads of bars and cafes, pretty good public transport, particularly round Newtown and Redfern. The two main centres are Newtown and Glebe, the former's a bit eclectic, and quite a few uni students, the latter is pretty good but gentrification is well under way.

TreFitty
Jan 18, 2003

I have a question about public transportation: is it viable? I can't survive in most parts of the US without personal transportation and have spending close to two years in Korea, I much prefer public transportation.

I am well aware that I will not get laid this way.


edit: My idea is to work a respectable job but live like a complete hobo. I'm much happier with that lifestyle, so I'm wondering just how accommodating Australia might be in that way. Like how much would a tiny, lovely room cost? I don't want to live in slums (neighborhood wise), but I really don't care to live in a nice apartment/house.

TreFitty fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Apr 1, 2010

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

TreFitty posted:

I have a question about public transportation: is it viable? I can't survive in most parts of the US without personal transportation and have spending close to two years in Korea, I much prefer public transportation.

I am well aware that I will not get laid this way.

All depends on where you live and work. If you work in the CBD (or a large industrial/office area) you'll most likely be able to and from there ok. But the further out into the 'burbs you get, the worse it is. Also, you ideally want to have a rail station within walking/riding distance, because gently caress buses.

unixbeard
Dec 29, 2004

TreFitty posted:

I have a question about public transportation: is it viable? I can't survive in most parts of the US without personal transportation and have spending close to two years in Korea, I much prefer public transportation.

I am well aware that I will not get laid this way.


edit: My idea is to work a respectable job but live like a complete hobo. I'm much happier with that lifestyle, so I'm wondering just how accommodating Australia might be in that way. Like how much would a tiny, lovely room cost? I don't want to live in slums (neighborhood wise), but I really don't care to live in a nice apartment/house.

find somewhere walking distance to a train station. you can survive fine, but your options will be a little limited in what you can visit. basically if its not in the CBD it wont be so easy to get to. Busses can be ok for short trips around the local area, they can also be poo poo.

newtown/glebe are great, you should check out rooms around chatswood too, it may appeal if you're from korea. https://www.domain.com.au has a share section.

if you're applying for jobs from overseas make sure you have the right visa to work in Australia otherwise you might find it tough. Anyone who posts an IT job ad gets a million applicants from people in India looking for sponsorship, so a lot of overseas applicants get ignored. Sydney has something like a 4.5% unemployment rate so finding work shouldn't be too hard as long as you're legal.

Mr Dalliard
Nov 3, 2008

Please point out the errors in my Na'vi grammar

unixbeard posted:



if you're applying for jobs from overseas make sure you have the right visa to work in Australia otherwise you might find it tough.

I didn't have any kind of visa when I applied. Now I have a 417 (so they can expedite my arrival) and they're going to sponsor my 457.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

brendanwor posted:

Sydney has some truly world class restaurants, just depends on how much you're willing to spend - any of these you should expect $100-$150 per head minimum.

Aria
Quay
Rockpool
Rockpool Bar & Grill
Est
Icebergs
Longrain
Marque
Wildfire

It should also be mentioned that you can get fantastic Italian food in Haberfield (where I live) and Leicchardt without spending that much money or having to book months in advance. They're not world class restaurants, but it's in a nice setting and the money spent is well worth it.

unixbeard
Dec 29, 2004

Mr Dalliard posted:

I didn't have any kind of visa when I applied. Now I have a 417 (so they can expedite my arrival) and they're going to sponsor my 457.

well that's cool. What industry are you in? I haven't been in Aus for over a year so not sure what the current market is like, but if they're hiring programmers over the phone and sponsoring them before they even meet them or pass probation gigggity drat. Unemployment rate is super low so it wouldn't really be that much a surprise i guess.

TreFitty getting a 417 would be a good idea, because then at least he can say he has a right to work in Aus. I'm not sure on the specifics on how it would translate to a 457 but im sure if you have skills/experience and someone to sponsor you it would not be a problem. Aus needs skilled immigrants!

Mr Dalliard
Nov 3, 2008

Please point out the errors in my Na'vi grammar

unixbeard posted:

well that's cool. What industry are you in?

Environment. I specialize in groundwater flow modelling.


Edit: Guess I may have inadvertently given the impression I was in a purely IT related field earlier in the thread. Apologies.

Mr Dalliard fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Apr 2, 2010

I Am Hydrogen
Apr 10, 2007

TreFitty posted:

I have a question about public transportation: is it viable? I can't survive in most parts of the US without personal transportation and have spending close to two years in Korea, I much prefer public transportation.

I am well aware that I will not get laid this way.


edit: My idea is to work a respectable job but live like a complete hobo. I'm much happier with that lifestyle, so I'm wondering just how accommodating Australia might be in that way. Like how much would a tiny, lovely room cost? I don't want to live in slums (neighborhood wise), but I really don't care to live in a nice apartment/house.

The public transport isn't bad. It isn't great either though. I purposely got a place within walking distance of a station, and thankfully my job is a block from the station I work near. You can get to most places with public transport. It's just that it can take forever to get from one place to the other sometimes. The press gives it a lot of poo poo, but I personally don't think it's as bad as they make it out to be.

As for how much a tiny lovely room might cost - it really depends on where you live, so that's a hard question to answer. Where about would you want to live? The city? The 'burbs? Bumblefuck Epping? (Assuming you're talking about Sydney.)

I Am Hydrogen
Apr 10, 2007

BlindSite posted:

Even if you can't walk into a job, there's definitely not a lack of jobs in the other industries where you can do menial work, i.e. Day labouring, or working in in retail till you get a job in your preferred industry, pay isn't too bad in most of these areas. i.e. 600-800 per week depending on hours and age. At least you'll survive.

Also if you have a qualified trade, builder, plumber, carpenter, etc, there's plenty of work in and around the brisbane area.

This is kind of what I did. I worked a crap job begging people for money for charities when I first arrive. ("Have you heard about the Australian Wildlife Foundation?") I kept on applying for jobs in the meantime, and it was nice because they let you choose what days you wanted to work, so I just took off whenever I had an interview and eventually I landed a well-paying job doing something I enjoy.

And just to emphasize what BlindeSite said, there seriously isn't a lack of jobs here if you're willing to do anything until you find something you want to do. Just make sure you have a good resume, cover letter and know how to interview and you'll be fine. (But you have all of that prepared already, right?)

Mantle
May 15, 2004

I'm a Canadian applying to an in house legal counsel position at EA Games in Sydney and have some quick questions about job/law culture in Australia. Is it practice for professionals' resumes to be 2 pages long? Are lawyers referred to as lawyers, attorneys, barristers, or solicitors? And do your lawyers refer to themselves as "Esquire" as Americans do?

Finch!
Sep 11, 2001

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Mantle posted:

Is it practice for professionals' resumes to be 2 pages long? Are lawyers referred to as lawyers, attorneys, barristers, or solicitors? And do your lawyers refer to themselves as "Esquire" as Americans do?

A bunch of my friends and an ex girlfriend are fairly recent law graduates/lawyers... so I may not be completely correct.

1) Re: resumes... depends on the person. We employ employ engineers, scientists, and programmers. Some resumes are enormous, others are more concise.

2) It really depends on the type of law one is practising. I don't know the distinction.

3) No.

Readman
Jun 15, 2005

What it boils down to is wider nature strips, more trees and we'll all make wicker baskets in Balmain.

These people are trying to make my party into something other than it is. They're appendages. That's why I'll never abandon ship, and never let those people capture it.

Mantle posted:

I'm a Canadian applying to an in house legal counsel position at EA Games in Sydney and have some quick questions about job/law culture in Australia. Is it practice for professionals' resumes to be 2 pages long? Are lawyers referred to as lawyers, attorneys, barristers, or solicitors? And do your lawyers refer to themselves as "Esquire" as Americans do?

Some jurisdictions in Australia have abolished the distinction between solicitors and barristers. I think NSW still retains it, though. Lawyer, barrister and solicitor are all acceptable terms to be used.

However, if you're working as in-house counsel then, pretty much by definition, you're not a barrister.

I Am Hydrogen
Apr 10, 2007

I have to go to Canberra for business this week. I get there Monday evening and leave Thursday night. I'll only be able to do things after 6pm. Is there anything to do there? All I've heard is that it sucks, and everything worthwhile can be done in a day. Any suggestions on cool things to see/do? Never been there before. Any and all advice is appreciated.

Readman
Jun 15, 2005

What it boils down to is wider nature strips, more trees and we'll all make wicker baskets in Balmain.

These people are trying to make my party into something other than it is. They're appendages. That's why I'll never abandon ship, and never let those people capture it.
I used to go there a bit for work and I was completely depressed whenever I was down there. It is the type of city that sucks the will to live out of you. I absolutely hate the place.

Other than work, the only stuff to do is touristy stuff, like visiting the National Museum, High Court, etc. And I'm pretty sure that's all closed by 6pm. The restaurant district at Kingston/Manuka is nice, though.

I Am Hydrogen
Apr 10, 2007

Readman posted:

I used to go there a bit for work and I was completely depressed whenever I was down there. It is the type of city that sucks the will to live out of you. I absolutely hate the place.

Other than work, the only stuff to do is touristy stuff, like visiting the National Museum, High Court, etc. And I'm pretty sure that's all closed by 6pm. The restaurant district at Kingston/Manuka is nice, though.

Bummer. I might walk around a bit the first night and then just hang out in my hotel room ha.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Shnicker posted:

If there are any Americans interested in a working holiday visa for Australia, there is one. It's not as good as the ones others can get, but it's good enough for 1 year. The only real limitation on it is that you can't work at one job for more than 6 months. I got mine about 2 years ago and it was around $180 Australian then I think.

It's called the Work and Holiday Visa (subclass 462) and you can find more information on it here:

http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/462/

Can you freelance on a working holiday, or is it necessary to have a proper Aussie employer?

I was excited to find out America and Australia had (sorta) worked something out in the last few years; I studied in Perth for a year when I was 19 and it'd be nice to go back. I miss making kangaroo fajitas :qq:

Helmacron
Jun 3, 2005

looking down at the world
By the way, backpackers, you could always look into the construction industry, which is desperate for people wanting to work. Like, really loving desperate. My boss got three calls on Friday asking if he had any excess workers. He does not.

I am building 4m tall and 400mm thick rammed earth walls with just one labourer and it is loving slaying me.

I know a UK'er who came here and scored a job in the city (Melbourne) that goes around $45 an hour for plastering. The competition rammed earth team is made up of kiwis, a UK'er and a Deutschlander, and they all get paid $28 an hour. This is more than office jobs. This is more than charity worker jobs. This is good money for skill-less labour.

So if you think you're just a little bit hardcore, check out construction.

Readman
Jun 15, 2005

What it boils down to is wider nature strips, more trees and we'll all make wicker baskets in Balmain.

These people are trying to make my party into something other than it is. They're appendages. That's why I'll never abandon ship, and never let those people capture it.

I Am Hydrogen posted:

Bummer. I might walk around a bit the first night and then just hang out in my hotel room ha.

There are some genuinely nice restaurants at Kingston/Manuka that you can try out. There's a great Portugese one (I think it's called 'Vasco's' or something like that).

Other than that, I'm trying to think of stuff that you can do after 6pm, but coming up a bit of a blank, sorry.

Pompous Rhombous" posted:

Can you freelance on a working holiday, or is it necessary to have a proper Aussie employer?

Do you mean, do you have to have an Australian employer to get the visa, or are you allowed to work independently (ie. not as an employee)?

In the first case, you don't have to have an employer (but you do need evidence of funds). In the second case, I'm not sure but I'd be surprised if you're not allowed to freelance.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

I Am Hydrogen posted:

I have to go to Canberra for business this week. I get there Monday evening and leave Thursday night. I'll only be able to do things after 6pm. Is there anything to do there? All I've heard is that it sucks, and everything worthwhile can be done in a day. Any suggestions on cool things to see/do? Never been there before. Any and all advice is appreciated.

Get drunk.

I Am Hydrogen
Apr 10, 2007

Readman posted:

There are some genuinely nice restaurants at Kingston/Manuka that you can try out. There's a great Portugese one (I think it's called 'Vasco's' or something like that).

Other than that, I'm trying to think of stuff that you can do after 6pm, but coming up a bit of a blank, sorry.


Cool, thanks. I'll check out that restaurant.

On another note, is the casino any good - specifically the poker room? It's relatively close to my hotel and I would have no problem spending my evenings there if it's any good ha.

As for getting drunk, I would if I didn't have to get up so drat early.

BlackShadow
May 31, 2009

Unless you're working ghoulishly long hours, you still won't have any trouble getting drinks in. Drinking is a 24/7 industry in (some of) Australia.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Readman posted:

Do you mean, do you have to have an Australian employer to get the visa, or are you allowed to work independently (ie. not as an employee)?

In the first case, you don't have to have an employer (but you do need evidence of funds). In the second case, I'm not sure but I'd be surprised if you're not allowed to freelance.

Cool, thanks! I was thinking it might be interesting to try and freelance as a photographer, so think my next step would be to try and find some pros working in Australia and ask them about it.

Also, any jobs you can think of where speaking/reading Thai would be an asset?

Readman
Jun 15, 2005

What it boils down to is wider nature strips, more trees and we'll all make wicker baskets in Balmain.

These people are trying to make my party into something other than it is. They're appendages. That's why I'll never abandon ship, and never let those people capture it.
How good is your Thai? You could apply for NAATI certification, but I don't know anything about the industry.

Morning Bell
Feb 23, 2006

Illegal Hen
Anyone have any experience with the Partner Visa? That's the one where you have to be in a 'de facto relationship' for a year with an Australian and living together as a couple for a year, to get a residency permit. Seems a bit difficult to prove if you're living together outside Australia.

Also, how do University degrees and work experience from overseas look to prospective Australian employers? (Finance/Commerce area, specifically). Is it a big disadvantage, or fine if it's from a decent institution?

Readman
Jun 15, 2005

What it boils down to is wider nature strips, more trees and we'll all make wicker baskets in Balmain.

These people are trying to make my party into something other than it is. They're appendages. That's why I'll never abandon ship, and never let those people capture it.
A friend of mine got a Partner Visa for his girlfriend. They met and started living together inside Australia, and they still said it was very difficult - they pretty much had to provide evidence to chronicle their relationship with each other to satisfy some DIAC buearucrat.

From memory (the immigration department has a pretty good website, so you might want to check out https://www.immi.gov.au), you basically have to show that you were living together in a marriage-like relationship. That can include things like - joint bills or bank-accounts, living together, people you know attesting that you were living in a marriage-like relationship, making joint major purchases, etc.

There's probably a minimum length, too.

What's the exact situation, and I'll ask him to seek if he's able to give any answers. Also, depending on the situation, it could be worth just going to a migration agent (if money isn't an issue).

I don't know about the Finance/Commerce area, sorry. I can't imagine why it'd be a problem, though (but make sure you bring the originals of your degree with you in case you ever have to prove it).

Readman fucked around with this message at 12:21 on May 18, 2010

Morning Bell
Feb 23, 2006

Illegal Hen
Yep, I checked out all the forms on the website - massive bureaucracy.

I'm an Australian citizen, she has EU citizenship. We are living together in the EU (not in her country though), and when we apply we'll have been living together for a year.

One crazy thing is we need verified statements from Australian citizens that we're in a marriage-like relationship, which I can only get from one or two Australian friends here in Europe. I think a migration agent is our best bet, but I was wondering indeed how difficult it was. Is it even possible to prove cohabitation outside of Oz? Her country is not eligible for a working holiday visa.

unixbeard
Dec 29, 2004

yes you can. About 10 years ago I was living in London with a girl from the UK and we got a defacto visa for Aus. My sisters husband is also from the UK and he came in on a spousal visa, once you've been together for 18 months or so there's very little difference in the eyes of the law between legally married & de facto. For my app we put in photos of us together, letters we had written, just any sort of evidence to back up whatever you put in your statements.

unixbeard
Dec 29, 2004

Mr Dalliard posted:

Environment. I specialize in groundwater flow modelling.

oh, there you go. One of my sisters is an environmental engineer and does a lot of stuff with water, mainly around conservation, its a big deal here, with the drought and all.

I Am Hydrogen
Apr 10, 2007

Morning Bell posted:

Is it even possible to prove cohabitation outside of Oz? Her country is not eligible for a working holiday visa.

If you have bills (credit, utilities and whatnot) to the same address then it is easy. My brother and his fiance moved to Oz in November after living in London together for 8 months (she's a Canadian citizen and he's US) and they had their de facto visas approved without a problem. They just showed credit card bills going to the same address in London. He has a 457 or whatever long-term work visa in Oz and were able to get her a visa with little trouble.

I'm currently in the process of waiting for that year mark to tick with my current girlfriend, so we can claim de facto. She's an Aussie and I'm a good ol' American. It doesn't look like we'll have any problems.

Grey Skies
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Mantle posted:

I'm a Canadian applying to an in house legal counsel position at EA Games in Sydney and have some quick questions about job/law culture in Australia. Is it practice for professionals' resumes to be 2 pages long? Are lawyers referred to as lawyers, attorneys, barristers, or solicitors? And do your lawyers refer to themselves as "Esquire" as Americans do?

This is from a few days ago so I'm not sure if you're still reading the thread, but I'm an Australian lawyer if you had any more industry specific questions. Respectively, the answers to your questions are yes, "lawyer" or "solicitor" assuming that's what your practising cert says, and no. gently caress no.

Holden Rodeo
Apr 2, 2008

Morning Bell posted:

One crazy thing is we need verified statements from Australian citizens that we're in a marriage-like relationship, which I can only get from one or two Australian friends here in Europe. I think a migration agent is our best bet, but I was wondering indeed how difficult it was. Is it even possible to prove cohabitation outside of Oz? Her country is not eligible for a working holiday visa.

Yes, you can prove cohabitation outside of Australia. I'm with my boyfriend in New Zealand right now, also waiting out a year together so we can go the de facto route. Most of what's in this pdf booklet is already on the immigration website, but Part 7 details what types of evidence you need to provide.

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Mantle
May 15, 2004

Grey Skies posted:

This is from a few days ago so I'm not sure if you're still reading the thread, but I'm an Australian lawyer if you had any more industry specific questions. Respectively, the answers to your questions are yes, "lawyer" or "solicitor" assuming that's what your practising cert says, and no. gently caress no.

Thanks for the offer. I am still early in the process so I don't know how likely it is I will be able to snag the job, but what would you guess the salary range is for in-house counsel with 2 years experience? Also, what is a standard (legislated?) work week in Australia? Do the "standards" vary between professionals and trade jobs?

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