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imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
Melbourne is basically the city for international students looking for a way to migrate here. It's pretty expensive in the short term, my room mate is from South Korea and is currently doing a Certificate 4 in Motor Mechanic, he spent about $15,000 a year with the course basically being 2 years part time - 2 days a week.

There is a whole bunch of courses you can do to get in, just look for things on the skilled shortage list and do courses in them. The most important thing is to find work in the relevant industry as soon as possible and make sure its a legit job, no cash under the table job because they just changed the laws and you need to show payslips.

http://www.deewr.gov.au/employment/lmi/skillshortages/pages/skillshortagelists.aspx

Doesn't need to be very technical things too, we seem to have a national shortage of hairdressers so you could probably do a course in that and aim for a graduate skill visa. I guess the biggest concern my room mate has is english levels, as long as you can get a score of 6 in IELTS you should be good.

Schools set up for this kinda thing are places like Cambridge International College, Menzies Institute, etc. Just make sure they are listed here: http://www.cricos.deewr.gov.au/

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imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

HAIL LORD ZLATAN posted:

Yeah thats what I'm planning to do, get a cert for a position in the skill shortage list and go from there. However one thing bothers me, 2 days a week only? In the case of your roomate, how often does he work?

I'd like to be able to pay the tuition with the money I'd make working over there. Is that possible with (what i expect to be) minimum wage pay? Also what are some good and cheap places to live?

Legally on the visa for students you can only work 20 hours a week so your probably going to want to use them for your legitimate job for your visa. As for living you will have to find an under the table cash job. My room mate works 2 days a week at a mechanic shop and 5 nights for cash at a restaurant. He gets peanuts for the actual job he needs for his visa $10 an hour but he gets $16 at the restaurant.

Electricity isn't that cheap here in Melbourne, guess it depends where you live in NSW. If you have a powersmart meter your hosed cause peak is like 40 cents per kWh but otherwise its only 20 cents cause the market is still regulated. Here in Melbourne some companies are charging almost 30 cents. I guess the only plus is there is more competition so some times things seem cheaper.

If you have the choice Energy Australia is offering like 12% discount in NSW trying to gently caress the competitors. Think thats the best offer at the moment.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

bee posted:

Insider tip... I used to work for EA and you can actually haggle with them over the discount rate. Ring them up, tell them you wanna switch providers, and whatever discount they offer you ask for at least an extra 5% off and you should get it. They have a company policy which says that rather than argue with people over money on the phone, it's better just to throw some at the customer to make them shut up and go away. So use this to your advantage :)


Haha I am not surprised, I work for one of the tier two retailers and we don't budge on the discount percentage, we have given up on the NSW market at the moment for that reason....

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
December is national murder a backpacker month so their is a high probability you will die. If the locals don't get you its only a matter of time before mother nature kills you with all the dangerous spiders, snakes, sharks, jelly fish, stingrays, crocodiles and drop bears.

Word of advise any time you see an Australian come within 1 meter of you just start yelling rape. Especially if he has a beard and offers to help you in anyway.

Other than that it will be the start of summer, lots of warm weather perfect time to hit the beach! :)

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
Agency's will help you find a job, my friend was lined up with interviews through the agency but they want 20% of your salary up front. On a regional skills visa my mate had to pay $20,000 - he decided its cheaper to spend $6,000 on another year of school and find a job himself. These agents are usually dealing with people from countries where English is not the first language so watch out, they are probably going to try and rip you off.

As for accommodation, if its regional work I am sure the agency will help you out or even the company hiring you would be able to point you in the right direction.

imnotinsane fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Sep 16, 2011

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
Well I was going to post about how great it should be but I am not 100% sure now. As far as I understand WHP should be reciprocal with the same opportunities offered in both countries. As an Australian I am entitled to come to Canada on a 2 year working holiday visa, there are no working conditions/restrictions and I can apply for it multiple times as long as I am still under the age limit of 31.

Looking on Australia's immigration website it does't really differentiate, it seems the visa is the same regardless of what country you come from, except for 5 or so countries that have further restrictions in place.

You would probably have problems coming over here not qualified so I would suggest you do that first. Wasn't completing your Journeyman ticket only 3 years in Canada? An apprenticeship in Australia is 4 years and first year wages are pretty low so I don't think you would meet the financial responsibilities required to be sponsored. You need to be earning at least $50,000 a year to be sponsored and a first year makes peanuts.

Also they give more consideration to rural jobs, so if you can deal with working in a place like fort mac you can make more money and have better opportunity to find sponsorship. The visa: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/rsms/

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

goldenskan posted:

Coming to Aus

My advice is keep working till you have more money. The AUD is going up and down a bit but it will most likely be around 1 aud to 1 usd. Everything is way more expensive here compared to the US. You will be looking at $30 a night at a lovely hostel and $15-$25 to eat out. Drinks are heaps expensive too. $2,500 will last you a month and it won't even feel like a great time.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
You could probably scrape by but its not very fun. What happens if you get into some kind of trouble, for example some of your money is stolen, couchsurfing falls through and you have no accomodation, you need to go to the doctor etc. I did the same thing as you and went to Canada with only $1,500 - my first 2 months were pretty loving poo poo and I totally regret not saving more.

If you do only come with $2,500 make sure you get some "proof" of having access to $4,000 dollars. Doctor up some statements, I don't know how strict immigration are but it is a requirement and I have heard of people getting knocked back because of lack of funds.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
If you want your daily commute to be just walking consider West Melbourne or South Melbourne and the South Bank area. I live in West Melbourne which is right on the edge of the city, it takes me 10 minutes to walk to the city centre, I am close by to all the big supermarkets in the city, plenty of nice places to eat and go out and I get to see possums every night when I walk home past Flagstaff Gardens.

It's pretty neat plenty of places near by and it takes me 15 minutes to get to my work. I save a bunch of money I can spend on booze.

If I had to choose some where else I would probably choose South Melbourne side, a lot of newer and nicer apartments plus I think that side of the city is cooler to live on. You got Crown casino right next to you, Flinders Street station, lots of open parkland, the national gallary and arts centre, Fed Square and the yarra river.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

plasmoduck posted:

Ah yes, it makes complete sense to share accomodation. I tried googling website for "looking for flatmates", but there's a gazillion ones - can you recommend which are the best/most popular? I suppose a lot is also advertised locally on papers and boards, right?

Check out https://melbourne.gumtree.com.au for share houses. It's great to find a place to live in and you can find pretty affordable stuff provided your happy to live a little outside of the CBD.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
During the day your ok but at night it can get cold, not hugely cold but I do see the temperature drop to around 1 to 3 but I finish work at 3am in the morning.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

Archives posted:

1 degree is hoodie weather. God I can't wait to be in Australia.

Where do you live where you look forward to 1 degree weather? I hate Melbourne's weather its too drat cold. Think I will move to Perth where its warmer.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
Pretty much any convenience store sells prepaid sim cards so no it's not going to be hard to get a cell phone.

Some people sell car with some registration left otherwise you will have to pay about 600 for a years worth of rego. Unlike Canada and USA we do not require insurance to drive a car so you can organise insurance when you have brought the car.

Student visa's usually allow 20 hours of work a week so you should be OK

imnotinsane fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Aug 8, 2012

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
I use Amaysim, 39.95 a month prepaid and I get unlimited calls and text and 4 gig of data a month. They use the Optus network so they aren't too bad. I think there are a couple of other companies that offer something similar, one of them is Red Bull Mobile but I think they use they vodaphone network.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

quote:

Financial requirements

You must have access to sufficient funds to support yourself for the initial stage of your holiday. Generally, AUD5000 may be regarded as sufficient, but the amount may vary depending on your length of stay and the extent of your travel. You should also have a return or onward ticket or the funds for a fare to depart Australia.

You may be asked to provide evidence. Evidence may include a certified copy of a bank statement and an air ticket out of Australia.

http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/417/eligibility-first.htm

As long as you have funds to buy a ticket out it should be fine. They probably expect more than you would actually pay I remember reading in the requirements for other working holiday visas its usually an extra $2000 on top.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
Those crappy jobs working for charities, telesales and door to door. No one wants to do it, no one sticks around. You would get one of those jobs straight away. Some money in your pocket while you look for a better job

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
For banks I would recommend NAB, they offer fee free banking and don't have any conditions where you got to put in a certain amount of money or make a certain amount of withdrawals/purchases each month, you just do your thing. The only annoying thing is if you dont use your own banks atm the machine will charge you between $1.50 to $2.50 per transaction.

If your going to be doing international transfers regularly I would probably recommend Citibank. I can't really speak for there customer service because I have never really needed to use it but I have heard that it can not be the best some times. They also don't charge any fees each month with the added bonus that there are no international atm fees at all, so no fee to use a foreign ATM and no foreign currency fees when you do a withdrawal. They also offer free wire transfers between some Citibank branches like Japan and America so if you have a bank account it could work out well for you. I am using them overseas right now and have had no additional charges whats so ever when making purchases or ATM withdrawals. The exchange rate is just straight up what ever Visa sets and has been pretty reasonable.

As long as you have a visa for more than a year you should be fine to start a contract, you could probably even get a new phone on contract if you wanted. I would probably suggest that since you own your phone you could get a better deal on some of the prepaid operators. The only downside is most of the prepaid operators resell Optus and the Vodaphone network so its not as good as Telstra. I was happy with Amaysim who offer unlimited calls and text for $39 a month and when I go back to Australia I will give Redbull Mobile a shot since it seems a little cheaper.

I owned a car that had been imported from Japan and it ended up sucking big time. If its not available in Australia good luck getting parts for it. I guess with a bike being smaller it wouldn't be as hard to get stuff sent from overseas but thats not a hassle I personally would want to go through.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

HookShot posted:

Canada Banks

I am not sure about Canada being ahead of Australia in banking.. When I was there in 2010 and I had to pay like $15 a month and I could make something like 20 transactions and that included using my card in shops not just ATM withdrawals. This was with TD. All the banks in Australia had an unlimited plan for $5 tops a month. When I first arrived I opened my account with the National Bank of Canada which was not really national at all and the majority of branches where only in Quebec. There was like 1 branch in the CBD of Toronto.

With paywave these days I never use cash. If its not paywave it's all eftpos for everything else. The only time I have ever needed cash is when I am catching the tram since the machines only accept cash but thats the same everywhere. Oh yeah plus all the major banks in Australia give you a visa debit card by default, with TD and National Bank I just had some crapy keycard that can't be used online.

The only plus was that TD had better hours than most banks in Australia.

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VVV Wish I knew when I first arrived but that was partly my fault for not looking into it more. Someone told me they had the most ATM's in Montreal I just never thought it wouldn't carry over to other places in Canada. I don't really remember the last time i have needed a deposit slip here in Australia, altough I was pretty happy when I finally didn't to use them any more. I think it happened around 2005 for Commonwealth.

Canada seemed to me to have a huge emphasis on paying in Cheques for casual work and temporary work. I had to go to the actual TD bank the cheque was issued at to get them to cash it straight away for me other wise it usually took 5 days. Apparently after a few cheques it clears faster but I never seemed to work any where to take advantage of that. If I deposited cheques into ATM's I would get access to $200 straight away so I just kinda did that.

imnotinsane fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Nov 28, 2012

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
During this episode did you think to perhaps say "Hello" or "Hi there"

Also gently caress you if you think that was racist.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
You dodged a bullet, those kind of jobs are pretty soul destroying. I don't know how people manage to keep working there. Sucks to be broke and desperate.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
Well if you want to use your phone to make calls and do stuff just get the $35 unlimited prepaid plan from Aldi. You can call and text as much as you want to anyone in Australia and you get 5gb of data. It uses the Telstra network so coverage is ok. There are a bunch of similar plans from Kogan, Redbull, Boost, Amaysim and probably others I don't know off. They all seem to be in the $30 to $40 range, all prepaid.

If you just want to make a call once in a blue moon heaps of companies provide cheaper pay as you go plans but as soon as you make a few calls it feels more economical to just pay $35 a month and not worry about running out of credit on a call and having to spend another $15 to recharge.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
I know this place is happy to hire people on working holiday visas.

http://www.srcentre.com.au/

It's just calling people asking them to do surveys. There is another company that does the same thing really close by, can't think of the name, its on peel st one block past the queen vic market.

If you do call centre work just make sure its non sales based and preferably inbound then it's piss easy.

Hit up the recruitment agency Hallis they do a lot of contract work for call centres.

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imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
^^^ realestate.com.au and domain.com.au for housing. What ever companies they link to for commercial stuff should be reputable too.


Raphisonfire posted:

http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4352.asp

When they say 50 cigarettes, is that 50 packs or 50 sticks?

50 individual cigarettes.

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