If only Frog could have kept WCW afloat

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Who Killed WCW?
	Eric Bischoff
	Hulk Hogan
	Vince Russo
	Jerusalem

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Hulk Hogan always lies but 'Wood Hogan always tells the truth (or was it the other way around?)

# ? Apr 23, 2024 04:20

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# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:48

Ringo Roadagain: Mar 27, 2010

All these things happened to hulk hogan. But they did not happen to terry bollea

# ? Apr 23, 2024 04:26

MrBling: Aug 21, 2003; Oozing machismo

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

theres an andre the giant documentary where hogan says he wasnt sure if Andre was going to job to him at WM3 or go into business for himself, brother

that one is actually true, but it was just a rib from Andre. He wanted to make sure that people knew he was still the main guy so whenever he was meeting with Vince and Hogan he'd be vague about if he would do the job or not, just to mess with Hogan.

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Leading up to the match, the question was whether or not Andr� was ready to let Hulk Hogan beat him. And so, yet another myth was created. Truth be told, none of the boys in the back knew the finish; no one but Pat Patterson, Vince McMahon, Hulk Hogan, and Andr� knew what was going to happen. Over the years, conflicting stories have emerged, creating even more folklore.

�I worked on that match day-in and day-out, making sure they were in a good mood,� recalled Pat Patterson in an interview for RF Video in 2018. �Andr�, we had to take care of him, we had to make sure he wouldn�t get hurt. Andr� would say, �Hogan, if I feel bad, I am going to kick the poo poo out of him.� I would tell him to stop saying that. He was just trying to joke around. But that would get Hogan nervous too. Andr� was just messing with him. However, at that time, Hogan didn�t know that. Andr� played a game that he was in a bad mood all the time with Hulk. Andr� worked him. He was so good at that. There was no doubt in my mind it would happen. Andr� was winking at me.�

Vince McMahon shared pretty much the same opinion. �Hogan would not say anything to Andr�, like, �Hey, are you going to do this job for me?� He had too much respect for Andr� to come out straight and ask him. Instead, he would beat around the bush. �Hey, boss, what are we going to do?� �I will tell you later,� Andr� would answer. Well, later never came, and Hogan kept coming to me. �Oh my god, am I going to win this thing?� �Yeah, yeah, yeah,� I kept saying. �It�s all set.� Finally, I got Hogan in my room the night before the event, and that�s when Andr� let him know what was going to go down. After Andr� told Hogan what he was going to do, there was a big hug and all that kind of stuff. And there we go.�

That meeting either never took place, took place with Andr� and Vince only, or Hogan completely forgot about it, because not only has Hogan never mentioned it, he swears he has no recollection of it whatsoever. As requested, Hogan wrote a match synopsis, leaving Andr� and Vince to decide upon the finish. �I don�t know if they were ribbing me,� said Hogan on Chris Jericho�s podcast. �Around 2 or 3 p.m. Vince said, �I think you need to go talk with Andr�.� I am sitting next to Andr�, who�s in a lot of pain with two quarts of Crown Royal already ingested. That was nothing for him. He�s handing me a drink, and when he�s not looking, I am dumping it because I can�t start drinking now. Just before going in the ring, he said, �Don�t worry. I will take care of you.� I didn�t know going in what that meant.�

Tim White remembered Andr� being the same as usual, stopping for beers on the way to the stadium. �Hogan was sweating the whole day,� said White. �I think Andr� was holding court, like, �Know this. Before I make you the guy, remember that I�m the guy and always have been.��

�douard Carpentier, who was the French-language play-by-play announcer that night, had clear memories of the mind games. �Andr� was drinking a lot. On that day, he had promised not to drink. But he had bought his wine bottles. He was looking at Vince while drinking his wine, mocking him. I asked him why he was drinking since it was a big match, and he told me it was none of my business. No one knew he was drunk in the ring that night.� It�s unlikely Andr� was too drunk to perform in that match, but he would have been unable to perform while sober because of the pain.

From Pat Laprade and Bertrand Hebert's Andre the Giant book from a few years back.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 05:51

16-bit Butt-Head: Dec 25, 2014

andre ruled

# ? Apr 23, 2024 06:03

Pope Corky the IX: Dec 18, 2006; What are you looking at?

Andre would also throw empty cans at Hogan�s head so he�d know when to go out and buy him more beer.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 12:58

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

i want to read Hogans written match synopsis

# ? Apr 23, 2024 13:25

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

step 6 the hulk up brother

# ? Apr 23, 2024 13:25

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

Andre really was the best and I wish more people would have worked Hogan like that

# ? Apr 23, 2024 14:51

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

TheHoosier posted:

Hulkster was scouted by and was begged to play for the Cincinnati Reds, dude. He didn't have time between Metallica band practice and PRIDE prize fighting, jack

I like that Hogan probably tells it like he was going to be the bassist instead of Cliff in Metallica but the timeframe means he would have been Ron McGovney.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 15:23

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

Hogan easily would have beaten up Andre if Andre didn't play ball.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 15:46

Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

the hulkster wrestled for elvis in memphis brother years after elvis was already dead jack

And drank John Belushi under the table after Wrestlemania 2....four years after John Belushi died.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:03

shiksa: Nov 9, 2009; i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Angry_Ed posted:

And drank John Belushi under the table after Wrestlemania 2....four years after John Belushi died.

corpses have a higher tolerance than us living, brother

thank you everyone for posting your favorite Hogan lies, hulk Hogan lies are one of my favorite pieces of wrestling ephemera

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:06

Ringo Roadagain: Mar 27, 2010

https://youtu.be/m2BJDGfliAM?si=_p8V1yxvvOETeQt1

The best

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:15

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

In further 'Hulk Hogan as a vortex of death' stories, he claims he was on a plane with Kerry Von Erich a week before Kerry died.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:36

Dr Kool-AIDS: Mar 26, 2004

Hogan owns, I'm not sure he ever fully processed that kayfabe died.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:42

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

Dawgstar posted:

In further 'Hulk Hogan as a vortex of death' stories, he claims he was on a plane with Kerry Von Erich a week before Kerry died.

He's like Mancow.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:44

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

Hogan owns, I'm not sure he ever fully processed that kayfabe died.

He's ahead of his time in that respect. Thanks to the Internet, you can't keep secrets, but you can flood the zone with poo poo and hope that some of your entertaining lies will just get repeated until they become accepted fact.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:51

TheHoosier: Dec 30, 2004; The fuck, Graham?!

Didn't he have Undertaker believing for months, maybe years, that Taker had hosed up his neck with the Tombstone at Survivor Series 92? Then, upon review, Hulk's head came nowhere close to the ground. Safest tombstone ever, lmao

# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:52

a dumb moron: Mar 19, 2024; augh

TheHoosier posted:

Didn't he have Undertaker believing for months, maybe years, that Taker had hosed up his neck with the Tombstone at Survivor Series 92? Then, upon review, Hulk's head came nowhere close to the ground. Safest tombstone ever, lmao

I�m sure Hogan pulled that poo poo but I�m willing to bet Taker plays into it as a carny himself

# ? Apr 23, 2024 18:12

TheHoosier: Dec 30, 2004; The fuck, Graham?!

Yeah it's carnies all the way down. Hogan operates like he's under a fae curse where he has to lie when describing his life. I feel like the attendance of Wrestlemania III and weight of Andre go up every time he tells that story

# ? Apr 23, 2024 18:17

Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

TheHoosier posted:

Didn't he have Undertaker believing for months, maybe years, that Taker had hosed up his neck with the Tombstone at Survivor Series 92? Then, upon review, Hulk's head came nowhere close to the ground. Safest tombstone ever, lmao

Apparently it was a whole two years.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 18:18

davidbix: Jun 14, 2016; Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

TheHoosier posted:

Didn't he have Undertaker believing for months, maybe years, that Taker had hosed up his neck with the Tombstone at Survivor Series 92? Then, upon review, Hulk's head came nowhere close to the ground. Safest tombstone ever, lmao

I've heard all sorts of conflicting versions as to whether it was years later or the following week at TV, but I think Undertaker's version was the latter. It seems agreed upon that it really happened, though. For further reading: https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/hulk-hogan-undertaker-survivor-series-91

The one monkey wrench thrown into this is that if Hogan completely faked the injury, he didn't just do it to mess with Undertaker's head (or at least disrupted more than that). Hogan was unable to cut his hard sell promo for Tuesday in Texas because he was being tended to, with Sean Mooney having to do it instead, and that clearly wasn't the original plan.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:00

Dario the Wop: Oct 11, 2007; Hell-Sent, Heaven-Bent

Random, but Bobby Heenan would always say "Who?" whenever Gorilla would mention Sean Mooney, and that poo poo cracked me up every time. Heenan was awesome, and one of the best parts of Goldberg's rise in WCW was hearing Heenan legit mark out for him.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:11

Ganso Bomb: Oct 24, 2005; turn it all around

It�s interesting that Hogan tries to not lie at least once saying that Taker took care of him and whatever happened to his neck wasn�t Taker�s fault. But I assume he was just being a weird loving baby.

I also love the line of �they wanted to fuse the discs in my neck but I said no� because it makes him sound like a big tough guy, even if there might be a shred of truth in there somewhere.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:17

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

I had no idea Sean Mooney was the guy in the Who mask.

# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:18

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# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:48

TheHoosier: Dec 30, 2004; The fuck, Graham?!

davidbix posted:

I've heard all sorts of conflicting versions as to whether it was years later or the following week at TV, but I think Undertaker's version was the latter. It seems agreed upon that it really happened, though. For further reading: https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/hulk-hogan-undertaker-survivor-series-91

The one monkey wrench thrown into this is that if Hogan completely faked the injury, he didn't just do it to mess with Undertaker's head (or at least disrupted more than that). Hogan was unable to cut his hard sell promo for Tuesday in Texas because he was being tended to, with Sean Mooney having to do it instead, and that clearly wasn't the original plan.

Great article. Hogan is loving ridiculous

# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:23

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