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I used to watch WCW in the '90s, flipping back and forth between that and Raw. I admit that my recollection isn't perfect, and I never really studied the behind-the-scenes business and politics stuff. I mainly remember that WCW had some really good workers, but they also had stupid characters and storylines that belonged in the '80s, an old boys' club of aging starts who weren't very entertaining to watch, and were always trying to put people over with really transparent squash matches with one of an army of jobbers. I know it was really obvious but I was immensely satisfied to hear Bret Hart say that Goldberg had been "hand-fed" all his opponents.
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Jerusalem posted:David Lynch was offered the job but became furious at the lack of coherent narrative and over-reliance on viewer interpretation
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Mar 16, 2010 03:35
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Hey, does anyone else remember when two guys who were already named Fit Finlay and Brian Knobbs formed a team called the Hardcore Soldiers, dressed in different colours of military camo and led Al Green around on a leash as their human dog? That remains literally the gayest thing I have ever seen in my life.
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Mar 16, 2010 04:00
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Astro7x posted:They should just release a DVD of CM Punk going through the WWE Prop warehouse, love to see what old stuff they are sitting on that we haven't seen in ages.
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Aug 15, 2012 20:05
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MassRayPer posted:Art thou bored? http://youtu.be/PXTagE7BtRU This. This is the best thing. We can all go home now.
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Get me a copy of that in 192kbps or better and I can get goth kids to dance to it.
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Goldberg, he's not lookin' at any girls!Zack_Gochuck posted:Fun Fact: A lot of people seem to forget that TBS attempted the network for men thing before Spike ever did. They used the slogan, "It's a guy thing." It was a station where they'd renovate a house during the commercial breaks of cheesy action flicks, and it had talking monkeys and WCW. God drat I miss old TBS. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Sep 20, 2012 |
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Sep 20, 2012 14:10
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MassRayPer posted:The 7/31/95 Observer is up and boy was it a good week to watch wrestling on TV!
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Jan 8, 2013 16:05
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coconono posted:a lot of the early UFC fighters regarded Tank as an absolute psychopath. I think SI did an article about one of the early UFC tournaments and the takeaway was not to be anywhere near Tank Abbott, backstage or in the ring.
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Jan 8, 2013 20:29
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Tato posted:It's pretty depressing to read all the glowing remarks about Alex Wright in the old Observers, knowing he's going to be continually buried and held down. And not even by high up people like Kevin Nash, dude got stiffed by loving Jim Duggan.
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Apr 17, 2013 19:40
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I just don't understand why they couldn't slap the same gimmick on someone with more talent. He couldn't work, couldn't talk as far as I remember, wasn't a body, didn't have a unique look. He could wave a stick with a flag on it or wave a stick without a flag on it.
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Apr 17, 2013 20:21
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coconono posted:this was my 1997:
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Apr 18, 2013 16:09
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C. Everett Koop posted:Hacksaw was basically Sandman if you replaced the cane with the 2x4 and beer with the flag.
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Apr 18, 2013 17:30
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abraxas posted:If true, I really gotta wonder who in the hell was convinced by HTM out of all people to do that? Who wouldn't either be like "gently caress you, dude!" or "Hey, that's actually a great idea! I'll go find my own dummy to do that for me!" and then eventually end up with a sign in sheet full of names and zero talent actually present at the show
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May 7, 2013 15:43
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The Pretzel Pile Driver. Classier and less carny than Piledriver Peanuts.
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May 14, 2013 14:12
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"Of course we knew Kanyon was gay. We named a salad after his finisher."
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May 14, 2013 14:41
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I want to know how the word "Brawl" gets translated to "Coconut Shrimp."
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May 14, 2013 14:48
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Zack_Gochuck posted:You mean Bash?
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May 14, 2013 15:02
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I think a lot of them are just dull. WrestleWar, Superbrawl, and Battlebowl just sound like attempts to capture the WRESTLEMANIA magic, Beach Blast and Bash at the Beach just sound like a beach party. I liked Souled Out; the name has its own identity.
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May 14, 2013 15:47
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Yeah, Halloween Havoc was also pretty cool. It definitely had its own identity, and in the 90s I was a huge mark for anything spooky.
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Scirocco Griffon posted:The shadows under the knife and fork are obviously fake and the fork is too big, so that's definitely the case. Though WCW paying a ton of money to have Goldberg do a photo shoot just for that tiny header image is entirely believable in itself too.
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May 14, 2013 18:39
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Cavenagh posted:And unless he's left-handed, they're in the wrong hands. 
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I was watching back in Ye Olden Times when Turner bought WCW, and I can say that while the transition from "a more serious alternative to WWF" to "watered-down rejected cartoony WWF stuff" was truly completed upon Hogan's arrival, it really began in earnest when Turner took over things from JCP. I'm not sure why, but Kevin Sullivan fascinates me. In his early days, he looked like a hundred other workers (a good ol' boy who got a tan and bleached his hair blonde to look cool) and his wrestling style was never interesting, but he made himself stand out and got himself over by throwing himself into an edgy gimmick. But when he went to WCW, everything he tried to do was a few years behind the times. After I stopped watching as a kid, I didn't start again until the Monday Night Wars, and when I went back and saw his Dungeon of Doom stuff, I first assumed it was from the 80s, not 1994.
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May 14, 2013 20:59
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At the WWF restaurant, the waiter just slings the Blazin' Taters down on your plate, ruining your whole dinner.
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May 14, 2013 21:17
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Zack_Gochuck posted:It was basically the Hulk Hogan and friends hour from 1994-mid 1996. It's kind of awesome in a so bad it's good way,
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May 15, 2013 15:31
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Scirocco Griffon posted:http://www.wwe.com/videos/wwe-rankd-extremely-bad-gimmick-matches-26114659 I also liked the King of the Road match. A jobber and a guy they're not sure why they're paying, taking a hayride: "This is what WCW's all about!"
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May 30, 2013 15:09
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Toffile posted:I'm on my phone at the moment. What matches were listed? Monster Truck Match (A monster truck big enough to contain The Giant vs. a monster truck big enough to contain Hulk Hogan's ego) Hog Pen Match (Triple H vs. Henry Godwinn) 49ers Match (Booker T vs. Jeff Jarrett, The Wack Pack vs. Jarrett's Balls) Piņata on a Pole Match (Luchadores vs. Vince Russo's racism) King of the Road Match (Dustin Rhodes and Barry Darsow vs. hay and centrifugal force) Tuxedo Match (Howard Finkel's body vs. my eyes) Kennel from Hell Match (Al Snow vs. Big Bossman, dog's urine vs. cage, dog's penis vs. dog) Bleacher Report has a lot of crappy articles, but this one on gimmick matches is pretty entertaining and contains some WCW gems. Bad gimmick matches are hilarious; we could probably have a thread just on the disaster that was the Brawl-for-All. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:53 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 16:51
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bobkatt013 posted:Where is the cage match with the Allience to End Hulkamania?
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Scirocco Griffon posted:Now I have to wonder just how many of those they actually sent out, and silently hope that there's some forgotten warehouse full of Hulkster rafts waiting to be rediscovered somewhere. Nah, they took care of that with Triple H's shovel. MassRanTer posted:I saw CM Punk out on Lake Michigan in one.
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Memento1979 posted:Warehouse? I thought it was in a landfill behind Titan Towers?
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bartok posted:I don't want to believe WCW actually encouraged fans to throw stuff and try to get in the ring. Though WCW being WCW, that wouldn't surprise me. They got really lucky they didn't get fans chucking batteries at the wrestlers or had some crazy enter the ring with a knife.
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Jun 11, 2013 15:59
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Oh God, looking at the older articles...I only ever saw Black Reign in crappy YouTubes, so seeing the costume at its most photogenic in that promo photo is just...magical. There are too many Willard, Darth Maul, KISS and Alice Cooper jokes for me to pick one.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:47
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I think the reason they do it is that, at least in ye olde days, one guy rushing the ring could turn into a riot if that one guy wasn't immediately stomped and made to look like an idiot. That would work out terribly in court, I'm sure.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:01
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Tito Ortiz was never in WCW.
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Jun 14, 2013 17:02
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Jesus Christ, they ripped that off from 8mm, didn't they? WCW thought a movie character who raped and killed a girl was something they should rip off for a wrestling gimmick.
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Jun 15, 2013 01:49
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I didn't see a Battlebowl on the Nitro Grill menu, but it sounds delicious. I'm thinking fried fish, chicken fingers, and hushpuppies on a bed of fries, with something called "slammin' sauce" on the side.
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Jun 19, 2013 17:25
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Yeah, I'm sure a wrestler could analyze it better, but he always drops people kinda to the side when he does that move, so I couldn't see how HHH went down at a dangerous angle or anything.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:26
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Okay, now I know the story of that match. I know what "gassed" means in an athletic context, but when I first heard about HHH's match with Steiner I read someone saying he couldn't do anything but take a bunch of belly-to-bellys because he was so gassy. That was a very different mental image.
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I remember reading here that among Russo's many other flaws, he would plan finishes that were literally impossible. The wrestlers had to work around it, and when they were confronted about it, they explained the situation and the road agents were like "Yeah, just keep doing what you're doing." Or was that Bischoff?
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