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So - I am battling this idea of portability - as I am sure a lot of goons are. Do I get a fancy 2 n 1 like the zenbook duo pro or do I carry around a tablet? The thing is ... there are a TON of different tablets out now at some amazing price points. So I have a few questions for you guys: If I don't go with a 2 n 1, what is the best tablet for left handed people? What's the best tablet for lefties WITH a screen? Is there that much different in quality with a Wacom to warrant the price hike? Some of the Huion and Xpen models are both impressive AND cheap but I have never bought non Wacom devices. I think it's time I do that since my last bamboo finally bit the dust and I haven't carried around an intuos Pro in many years. This guy kinda drones on but he makes some good points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaooGghYRL4 sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jul 4, 2022 |
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sigma 6 posted:So - I am battling this idea of portability - as I am sure a lot of goons are. I'm not left handed, so take this with a grain of salt. I think it entirely depends on your usage case. There's a lot of good drawing apps on tablets and even some sculpting apps if you're into that. I own a surface pro 5 (owned all models up to and including that one). I'm considering getting an iPad because when I want to draw I just want to whip it out and not have to do any OS/windows stuff or deal with surface glitches (every single one I own has had glitches and despite that we've still had some great drawing times together). I originally got a 2 in 1 so I could draw/sculpt/write documents on the go in cafes. Which I still do, but I want to draw on the train using a small tablet when travelling which I do a lot. I'd suggest looking up Brad Colbow on YouTube if all you want to do is draw - he has videos on the different price points and which tablets suck for what purpose.
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Aug 4, 2022 06:36
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I always found the Surface 4 and 6 a bit jittery and unsatisfying to draw with, but I've heard that the Surface Pro 8 + new flat Surface pen with haptics is a vast improvement in both feel and performance. It's also worth bearing in mind that Windows 11 is a lot smoother on touch devices than Windows 10 and you can actually rotate the screen smoothly instead of the OS throwing a panic attack while it works out how to resize everything. Another Windows alternative would be the Lenovo Yoga, there's a trade-off in weight and bulk but as it's basically still a laptop it comes in cheaper than a Surface, and I've found the pen accuracy to be decent on other Lenovo tablets. If it's just for drawing though then either an iPad or Galaxy Tab would be better value, Windows would just be overkill. CSP works pretty much the same as the desktop version and there are plenty of alternative apps, like Procreate on iOS. I have the Galaxy Tab S7 FE and the pen accuracy is incredible, although the palm rejection kind of sucks if you don't get the pen nib over the screen first, even with a glove. It's a minor gripe though, I'm otherwise very happy with it.
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Aug 4, 2022 14:16
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I always found the Surface 4 and 6 a bit jittery and unsatisfying to draw with, but I've heard that the Surface Pro 8 + new flat Surface pen with haptics is a vast improvement in both feel and performance. It's also worth bearing in mind that Windows 11 is a lot smoother on touch devices than Windows 10 and you can actually rotate the screen smoothly instead of the OS throwing a panic attack while it works out how to resize everything. Any specific model of Yoga people can recommend? Just going to use it to write, draw in CSP and MAYBE learn some 3D sculpting.
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Aug 5, 2022 17:35
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I always found the Surface 4 and 6 a bit jittery and unsatisfying to draw with, but I've heard that the Surface Pro 8 + new flat Surface pen with haptics is a vast improvement in both feel and performance. It's also worth bearing in mind that Windows 11 is a lot smoother on touch devices than Windows 10 and you can actually rotate the screen smoothly instead of the OS throwing a panic attack while it works out how to resize everything. The first generation of the surface pro x with the flat pen and haptics was a tremendous improvement over previous generations' pen performance, but was an ARM chipset. I haven't played with a Pro 8 yet, but it certainly stands to reason that the improved performance has carried forward. Take that with a grain of salt I suppose, since I'm not an artist, I just spend an hour or so a day working through drawabox lessons trying to learn.
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Aug 5, 2022 19:44
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Hi all, I posted this in the stupid little questions thread but didn't get a response. I figured this might be the next best (or perhaps even better) thread to try. I'm currently looking to buy a 3rd generation ipad air tablet stand/holder for my partner who loves to paint/draw/illustrate. I don't have any experience as an artist so my intuition on whether something is a good product or not is lacking. After some cursory searching I think that the sketchboard pro (https://sketchboardpro.com/) looks like the best option, but I wanted to ask here if anybody has experience with it or any other tablet stands/holders/drawing tables for digital art with an ipad. Ideally we would like to have one that can be used anywhere - in bed, on the couch, at a desk - but I realize that might be too much to ask. If there are any other recommendations that anybody has, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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Aug 16, 2022 00:17
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enahs posted:Hi all, I posted this in the stupid little questions thread but didn't get a response. I figured this might be the next best (or perhaps even better) thread to try. I'm currently looking to buy a 3rd generation ipad air tablet stand/holder for my partner who loves to paint/draw/illustrate. I don't have any experience as an artist so my intuition on whether something is a good product or not is lacking. After some cursory searching I think that the sketchboard pro (https://sketchboardpro.com/) looks like the best option, but I wanted to ask here if anybody has experience with it or any other tablet stands/holders/drawing tables for digital art with an ipad. its great. you can get a load of "stand" type deals which range from sturdy to rickety as poo poo but I love this thing for drawing on the couch or at a desk. The "tall" standing mode is kind of bullshit but I'd never use that even if it was rock solid.
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Aug 17, 2022 20:33
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bitmap posted:its great. you can get a load of "stand" type deals which range from sturdy to rickety as poo poo but I love this thing for drawing on the couch or at a desk. The "tall" standing mode is kind of bullshit but I'd never use that even if it was rock solid. Thank you!
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Aug 18, 2022 13:32
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Alright, so I'm looking for a screen tablet for my desktop that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. My Windows Surface has been great over the years and if there's a way to hook that screen input up somehow I might just go with that. What are my options? I'm looking at the XP Pen Artist 12 right now.
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Aug 27, 2022 01:52
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Dogwood Fleet posted:Alright, so I'm looking for a screen tablet for my desktop that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. My Windows Surface has been great over the years and if there's a way to hook that screen input up somehow I might just go with that. What are my options? I'm looking at the XP Pen Artist 12 right now. Go for huion or XP pen on the cheap end. I've said it in this thread before, but my huion has lasted me more than 5 years. Can't remember the exact model off the top of my head.
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Aug 27, 2022 09:43
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Hi, I've starting drawing again, last time was in 2015. I'm going through an online art program this time around not just self study and I'm wondering about using a tablet or wacom device for practicing things line line quality, accuracy, shape, and perspective. I know that physical media feels different than digital and that supposedly going from digital to physical is more difficult than going physical to digital, but for the basics, beyond rendering, I would like to not waste paper to build muscle memory. Also I bought a wacom cintiq 24 pro so I guess I'm going to be using that regardless. I'm just wondering what percentage I should be focused on digital vs physical media for learning to draw well. Perspective seems like something that would do better on a tablet in many ways. I haven't found much online in terms of learning the basics on a tablet so I'm hoping someone has an answer here.
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Sep 11, 2022 18:52
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I am just a random person, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but: I think traditional media is expensive, so if you already have a tablet, might as well use it! One thing I'd suggest is to not learn to use "undo" constantly. That might make it easier for you to transition to traditional whenever you decide to do that. Might even challenge yourself to just not use "undo" at all for quite a while. Build some confidence.
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Sep 11, 2022 20:02
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You're out to lunch if you think traditional materials are more expensive than a device that retails for two thousand dollars.
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Sep 12, 2022 00:08
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Star Man posted:You're out to lunch if you think traditional materials are more expensive than a device that retails for two thousand dollars. There's more than one way to dump two grand on art supplies. Hamelekim posted:Hi, There's no magic ratio of physical:digital. You need to try a lot of things, learn from them, and find your jam. Probably your best counterbalance to your tablet right now is some charcoal and cheap newsprint for making big messy drawings on. You're going to waste materials, it's a part of learning how to draw.
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I think the best way to go when learning is just whichever medium inspires you to actually loving do it which is by far the hardest part of learning art. The only thing I would suggest if you stick to mostly digital is to do some exercises once in a while on a big whiteboard or something so you can feel what it's like to draw with your whole arm so you don't obliterate your wrist on your tablet
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the russians used a pencil
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Dogwood Fleet posted:There's more than one way to dump two grand on art supplies. Yeah I try to tell myself that. I think I'm too focused on the technical part of drawing at the moment rather than just drawing. I do find that it is difficult to draw without a reference at this point, so being able to do that in front of my PC with the wacom on a monitor arm will help a lot with that. of course there are other options but that seems to me to be best for now. Any advice for not scratching the cintiq pro 24? It's glass so any plastic should be fine, but just want to be sure I'm treating it right so it lasts a long time.
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Sep 13, 2022 23:51
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Hamelekim posted:Hi, I think the main reason traditional media is recommended for beginners is that there's a direct correlation between your technique and the result. With digital work your tools can cause issues that lead to errant input like line jitter, cursor offset, unintended strokes, and palm rejection failure. This isn't such a big issue for an experienced artist but for a learner you may pick up bad habits trying to compensate, such as drawing quick, imprecise strokes instead of slow, deliberate ones. A reasonable compromise might be to dabble in both so you can bring proper technique to your digital work and recognize when the technology is making mistakes and not you.
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Sep 15, 2022 07:26
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Do I need a tablet to be 2k or 4k at 16 inches? The new Huions are 2k but the old ones are on sale.
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ravenkult posted:Do I need a tablet to be 2k or 4k at 16 inches? The new Huions are 2k but the old ones are on sale. 16 inch 4k is, in my opinion, far too high a resolution to be practical
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Star Man posted:You're out to lunch if you think traditional materials are more expensive than a device that retails for two thousand dollars. Wanna see what a thousand dollars worth of watercolor paints look like? Because I can fit them in a pretty small bag.
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Can anyone suggest which program I should use between Corel Painshop pro 2017 (can upgrade to 2021) or Affinity Photo for my cintiq? It arrives tomorrow and I'm still not sure which program to dedicate a lot of time learning. I know that Affinity is also on ipad, which I have, so that could be a better choice overall, but I have the full Corel set of programs from humblebundle and seems like a waste not to use that. I'm not a professional of any sort so I don't want to pay a monthly fee for Adobe.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:03
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Any advice on software or methods for color balancing a Huion Kamvas 22? I've adjusted hue and temp in the settings and can't get it consistent with my other monitor. It's possible my other monitor is way off but I doubt it, prints from my main monitor are pretty color-accurate.
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If there is a better thread to answer my software question please let me know. I'd like to start off on the right foot. It's pretty easy on the ipad because procreate is so good and widely used.
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Hamelekim posted:If there is a better thread to answer my software question please let me know. I'd like to start off on the right foot. It's pretty easy on the ipad because procreate is so good and widely used. I'm just getting into digital art myself but you'll find that lots of options are good. What type of work do you want to do specifically? That might make it easier to identify what is most commonly used. For 2d illustration I hear about Affinity and Clip Studio Paint the most after Photoshop.
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Chromatics posted:I'm just getting into digital art myself but you'll find that lots of options are good. What type of work do you want to do specifically? That might make it easier to identify what is most commonly used. For 2d illustration I hear about Affinity and Clip Studio Paint the most after Photoshop. I want to focus more on the painting side of things. Nothing 3d at this point.
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So I don't know much about Corel, it seems more geared for imitating natural painting techniques but I also haven't seen comparisons on their brush engine vs. all the rest. I am mostly interested in digital painting and comics style-line art and coloring, so I went with CSP because of the price and how many tutorials in that style exist, and there are plenty of free assets for it like there are for Photoshop. It also has a 30 day free trial. It might be best for you if you find some intro videos that you plan to follow or someone who's process you want to imitate and has a free class or demo. If you think you are missing out by not going with photoshop, you could always try the free trial for something else, and then switch to the $10/month Photoshop only license if you decide to do that.
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Krita might also be something to check out, a lot of people paint and draw in it. It's free too.
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Just wanted to make an updated after using my Wacom Cintiq 24" pro for a couple of weeks now. I'm just starting out but I love this thing. The feel of drawing is very close to paper to my hands. I've got it on an ergotron arm I already had, with the vesa mount from Wacom. It does shake when you get vigorous with your drawing, but it hasn't been a major issue, and I usually just steady the bottom corner with my other hand if I need to draw something that causes movement like that. I've been using Affinity Photo and it has been working great as well. I didn't realize that the shortcut remote can actually be plugged into the side of the cintiq so that it is always charged and ready for use. I've found it great for creating and deleting layers and lines as I'm practicing. The only real issue so far is that if you PC is more than 5 feet away from the location of your tablet the cables might get in your way. I'm going to move my PC to the other side of my desk to give another foot of cable movement. For anyone who is already well practiced at art I would definitely recommend it.
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That's awesome to hear. I haven't used my 22" Kamvas much because the 1080p resolution feels so low. Fortunately it's just my second monitor the rest of the time so I don't feel like I'm wasting it, but if I really do practice more digital art I'd want to upgrade to a better screen eventually.
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Sad to see the 2in1 market is drying up. I never found one that was good and affordable. I'd get another surface but they suck as a laptop on your lap. Does anyone make a hinged typecover? Something that gives it rigidity?
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So, I haven't looked to see if they exist for the surface, but I got a hinged type cover for my ipad. Works great, but the downside is that it has to be super heavy so it doesn't just fall over. So it's not nice for carrying around places.
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Hmm, I wonder if they make one with support arms or something. Gotta look in to it. Surface 9 is coming out so getting an 8 should be somewhat cheap. Edit: Looks like that crappy Brydge product is the only one out there BUT this seems like an okay compromise Fintie Case for Microsoft https://a.co/d/7Q8JWRn Inzombiac fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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Wacom seems to have dropped their new Cintiq Pro 27 today. 4k 120HZ display for $3500 plus $500 for the stand. Ugh. The base monitor has a standard VESA mount at least. I guess. https://estore.wacom.com/en-US/wacom-cintiq-pro-27-interactive-pen-display-dth271k0a.html The most interesting part, to me, is the new Pro Pen 3 is very customizable. Multiple grip options, button options and can slot in weights to adjust the balance. Most importantly it's backwards compatible with other Cintiq Pros. (This last reported by the Verge. There's no separate Pen page on Wacom that I can find yet.)
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CaptainCrunch posted:Wacom seems to have dropped their new Cintiq Pro 27 today. 4k 120HZ display for $3500 plus $500 for the stand. Ugh. I was saving up for a 32" when they discontinued it, and it was priced the same, so what's the justification for this price tag- is it the 120 Hz refresh rate? And does that really matter on a drawing tablet?
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Listerine posted:I was saving up for a 32" when they discontinued it, and it was priced the same, so what's the justification for this price tag- is it the 120 Hz refresh rate? Refresh rate should help with keeping the pen cursor in-line with the pen on the screen when doing fast movements with your hand. So less lag.
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Listerine posted:I was saving up for a 32" when they discontinued it, and it was priced the same, so what's the justification for this price tag- is it the 120 Hz refresh rate? Does Wacom ever justify their price tags other than "Cintiq lol?" As long as I can remember they've always priced at a premium. Best guess it's the display element pushing it up. But $1500 over the 24"? Goddamn.
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Hamelekim posted:Refresh rate should help with keeping the pen cursor in-line with the pen on the screen when doing fast movements with your hand. So less lag. I guess I should have been more specific- is that enough of an issue with the old display that someone would reasonably see the difference? I've been using the 24" since June, not too heavily, but I haven't found myself noticing any lag so far. My impression was that the Wacom screens were pretty responsive in this day and age. CaptainCrunch posted:Does Wacom ever justify their price tags other than "Cintiq lol?" As long as I can remember they've always priced at a premium. Yeah I really would have liked the extra screen real estate, and would have gone for the 32", but I can't shell that much out for only 3" more in size.
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Anyone have any strong feelings on huion 13 vs. xp pen 13 inch tablet with screen built in? They both look great but I am leaning to the xp pen due to having the dial. I like dials more than touch strips. Needs to be able to flip easily to left handed mode. sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Oct 2, 2022 |
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Is there another setting in Photoshop 2021 other than the windows tablet handedness setting to make submenus open to the left? Because windows is being super flakey about recognizing that my kanvas 16 pro is a tablet. Windows also thinks my monitor has pen support if I try and have to both plugged in at the same time which is fine because it works except when I try and open a menu and I can see what the hell I'm trying to click.
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