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Besides the button location/actual vs capacitive, is there a huge difference between these tablets I'm not seeing? I'm giving my ridiculously small and old tablet to a cousin and want a cheap and larger replacement. I'm sticking with monoprice because my budget is not very flexible and I doubt anything Wacom could come close. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=108&cp_id=10841&cs_id=1084101&p_id=10594&seq=1&format=2 http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=113&cp_id=11303&cs_id=1084101&p_id=6251&seq=1&format=2
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The only time I used a cintiq the input lag was not insane but it was bad enough that I couldn't stand using it. It was in photoshop cs5 and it was on a crazy 3d modeling workstation so it definitely wasn't the PC's fault. I wonder if the other brands of tablet monitors suffer from it equally. Also yeah the actual cursor was like a millimeter away from where the stylus was.
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Anybody here familiar with manga studio 5's ram usage? When I graduate I want to sell my macbook and get a surface pro (not sure about 2 or 3 yet) and I don't know how much ram I'll need. My macbook with 4 gigs chugs when I have large canvases open in photoshop so i feel like I'd want more than that, but the pro 2 doesn't have an option with 8 gigs and the pro 3 is a $300 step up in price to go from 4 to 8.
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Dr. Derek posted:The surface pro 2 units that have 256GB and 512GB SSDs come with 8GB ram. Whadya know, I was only looking at the 128gb version. For $730 that seems like the best option unless there's something remarkably bad about the 2 that makes the same version of the 3 worth the extra $500 (i know the screen is slighly longer/higher res and I don't especially care since 1080 seems great for a loving 10.5" screen).
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mutata posted:Just bought a Yiynova MSP19U+, ask me anything. Who has the better 19" budget cintiq knockoff yiyi or monoprice???
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Anyone here know anything about the Ugee tablets? The 1910b is the same price as the cheapest monoprice cintique alternative but from the little info I've found they have better viewing angles, play better with multi monitor setups and are the only knockoff so far to have tilt recognition.
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For the price of the Cintiq companion you could get a surface pro 3 for portable use and the cintiq 13" monitor for at a computer use. Speaking of I am finally going to roll the dice and buy a Ugee 2150. It's got a 21.5" ips 1080p screen and UC logic digitizers for around $600 on amazon or ebay. From all the reviews I've read it's almost identical hardware wise with the Huion gt-220 but with drivers/digitizers similar to the yiynova mvp22u+ (which makes sense since they both use UC Logic). The lack of presence in the US makes me a little nervous but the reviews that are there all seem really positive and the company seems to have a decent reputation in the UK/China.
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kefkafloyd posted:At least they're finally making the knockoff cintiqs with DVI ports, the image quality on the previous Yiynovas really put me off. I am pretty sure all the 22" versions of the current crop of knockoffs come with either dvi or hdmi (the ugee i ordered comes with hdmi) while almost all of the 19" versions are vga only. And if you want to get a 'deal', yiynova just started selling the old ver. 2 of the mvp22u that had all those issues for the reduced price of $800.
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After dealing with a nightmare ebay seller for like two weeks and reordering it off amazon I finally got my ugee tablet today. It's really dope.I think it's got a tiny speck of dust in the corner but other than that there's no dead pixels and it seems to work well.
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Wowporn posted:After dealing with a nightmare ebay seller for like two weeks and reordering it off amazon I finally got my ugee tablet today. It's really dope.I think it's got a tiny speck of dust in the corner but other than that there's no dead pixels and it seems to work well. After doing a bunch of practice doodles I am liking this thing a whole bunch. The disconnect with a regular tablet was a big thing preventing me from really getting into digital art as much even though I craved the versatility/workflow that you can get from working digitally. The input lag is about on par with the 22" cintiqs that I've used, and the cursor parallax is probably the best out of any tablet monitor I've used with the exception being that if you get really close to the edges it drifts away a bit more (the better you are at staying in one posture while you draw the less it'll be noticeable). It takes a bit of noodling to get the brightness/contrast on the screen to look right but other than that I like the screen surface more than the wacoms because I hate the textured stuff they use (it also came with a screen protector that I wanted to use, but you can probably imagine that trying to get a 22" screen protector on without any bubbles was a nightmare and I gave up and threw it away). I bought the bundle with the mounting arm that appears to just be a silver rebranded Ergotron XL, and it works perfectly and is a hell of a lot more stable than the cheap monoprice arm my other monitor is on. Xun posted:Hey so my bamboo fun plug is bent...again. Anyone know if I can just use another micro USB wire or do I need to buy a new tablet completely? This has happened before with a bamboo fun and I'm not very happy about the quality of the plug. At least none of it is stuck in the port this time!! How old is it? The tablet I just upgraded from is a tiny bamboo fun I've been cramming into backpacks since 2007 and I don't think I've ever had an issue with the cord. It's probably not new enough to get a replacement from Wacom for being defective?
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Any recommendations for screen protectors for a Cintiq? I really like using the felt tips on the stylus but I've heard multiple people say it eventually scratches the screen to poo poo Really? I was thinking about getting a pack of felt nibs because I had heard the exact opposite, that they were less harsh on the screen than the plastic ones.
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Does anyone have experience trying to cram the felt wacom nibs into a different brand stylus? I've heard people say they fit in Yiynova styus'ss's' if you cut them shorter but I dunno about anything else.
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When you're learning finishing a drawing, noting the mistakes, and moving on is more helpful than agonizing over one leg of one figure for three times as long. Learning to rely on the undo button while still starting sounds like a really bad habit to form.
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Tanreall posted:If I like to draw at other places than at a desk would it be better to have a wireless tablet? I'm just starting out and Huion is having a sale so I'm debating between these two: The h610 I've heard high recommendations of from people worth listening to so that seems like a really good choice.. And not that it matters I guess, but what scenario exactly would you be working in where you're far enough from your computer to need the wireless tablet but still close enough to the screen to be able to see it while you draw? I guess the lack of wires would be nice but the price premium and having to worry about charging it at all seem to outweigh that if it were me buying it.
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painted bird posted:Bumping the thread to repeat the question. Worth it? Should I save up for a Cintiq instead? I have a Ugee 2150b, which is practically identical to the Huion gt-220 but with uc logic digitizers instead of huion digitizers, and I like it a lot. Like, I can recommend it with confidence to someone who's looking for a cheap alternative to a cintiq, I got a bundle with the monitor and a really nice arm for it for $720.
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I can be slightly biased against wacom but that is still a very anecdotal test, like literally comparing 1 unit to 1 unit
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I wanted a tablet monitor but couldn't really afford a full-size Wacom, so I ended up buying a 19" Ugee 1910B. The 21" model seemed to review well and the 19" had plenty of glowing reviews on Amazon, so what could go wrong? That's rough, I have the 21" version and while it's got some backlight bleed it definitely doesn't have any of those other problems you described. The screens in the 19" seem incredibly cheaper though so I guess it's not that surprising. If the bigger one is still out of your price range I would say try the 19" Huion or Yiynova that have been reviewed to death by Frenden and co but thanks to all that attention those ones aren't actually that cheap anymore compared to the Ugee or the Monoprice rebranded Huion that went off the market.
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The build quality is less than premium but sensibly done and the colours and resolution are okay for a cheap tablet, but there is exactly zero smoothing and no options to fix it. You could castrate a gnat with the edge on those pixels. What looks just fine on my two desktop monitors is a jagged mess on this monitor. Plus the distance between glass and screen is gigantic; no amount of calibration can stop the cursor and pen tip from parting ways as they stray from centre. There's also a 5mm piece of dust trapped behind the screen that's making a bunch of pixels flip out, so that's what I'll be putting as the main reason for returning it rather than "this product is total dogshit".
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Anyone care to weigh in on Bosto? They seem to be non-existent in the UK so I missed them the first time around, but their products seem like they're really good quality - not as cheap as Huion and the rest, but a lot cheaper than Wacom. They also have a 13" model, which powers a battery free pen and a 1080p IPS screen off a single USB cable, which is loving bananas. Their 22" model has the same quality screen and pen, seems pretty thin and light and is slathered in hotkeys and only winds up at $899 - more than I wanted to spend, but a price I'd be willing to pay for what you seem to get. Don't buy anything from them, they have an awful track record for buggy hardware and nonexistent customer support. If I remember right they don't even have drivers for windows from 8 and up. Here's Frenden's damning (and he's not the only one) lack-of-a review. http://frenden.com/post/67995181942/bosto-kingtee-22hd-review If you're willing to spend just under a grand and want higher end I would definitely say the Yiynova 22" or a used Wacom
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I did see that review, but that was a few years and a couple of hardware revisions ago. The current model, the HDX, seems to be much better received (less so for Mac users, but I'm on Windows, so eh) and seems to be improving heavily on past faults if the reviews I've seen are anything to go by. And they do support Windows 8 and 10. Oh that's cool, I hadn't heard anything about new stuff from them and it was only a couple months ago I was researching the hell out of these things. I guess I'm lucky that I like the sensitive pressure curve all the non Wacom's have, I like using brushes for inking because of the huge width variation and when id use wacom tablets I felt like I really had to mash the stylus down to get what I wanted. Yiynova does also have a small 10 inch screen tablet that runs totally off USB but that's pretty small for a tablet monitor and ive heard the poling rate has issues due to the low power it operates off of.
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I prefer the flat glass screen on my tablet monitor over the textured cintiq screens, I also preferred inking with a brush on smooth Bristol for traditional art so that probably has something to do with it, I put paper on my old bamboo tablet just because the plastic felt so lovely and scratched so quick
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When they added animation support it meant i could finally stop importing poo poo from ms to photoshop to make gifs and that was really nice
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Futaba Anzu posted:EX gets you comic sequence capabilities and being able to animate more than 12 (or 24, whatever) frames in animation mode. Do they have any upgrade option from normal to ex, I am considering getting it just for those features
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cram like 16 more gigs of ram in your pc This is actually something I want to do cause i do stuff in manga studio at really high dpi with fun watercolor brushes but I need new car tires first
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wacoms stuff seems to have kind of notoriously bad qa/longevity for how expensive they are, at least with tablet monitors and the cintiq companions. And I know their older tablets were pretty durable(my bamboo from 2007 still works flawlessly after tons of hours of use/time shoved in a backpack) but I feel like I know a lot of people who's intuos 4 and newers started having major issues after like a year The surface studio looks super hot but yeah all in ones are impractical to me
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eyefinity triple cintiqs imma paint a japanese scroll at native res
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The huion h610 pro is the favorite budget but not garbage tablet im p sure
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There is a ~$35 monoprice tablet that looks very similar to the h610, the only thing I have heard a lot about monoprice is that the build quality will be a little less great to make up for the price difference but if you are extremely a beginner and might not use it all that much/won't be hauling it around in a backpack it might be fine
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Manga studio/clip studio works fine with my surface pro 1, although just yesterday my power cord starting smoking and almost set my couch on fire because of a small tear near the ac plug so beware that maybe
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Lol that's good to know, maybe I'll hit up the local Microsoft store and see if they'll give me one for free
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I think the non ex version of clip studio limits you to 24 frames for animations
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BluePard posted:I'm looking to finally buy a monitor tablet, probably either the Ugee 1910B or the Yiynova MVP20U+FE. Same price, but the Yiynova has only one review so far. Mostly I'm concerned about responsiveness and lag. Anybody have experience with these? That yiynova model is weirding me out, I don't have any experience with it but the display ports are all on the stand, the bezels are gigantic, and it's a lot cheaper than even Yiynova's other similar size/spec monitors by like a couple hundred dollars which is strange because they are the most expensive of the cintiq alternatives right now. If it delivers on having a 20" 1080p MVA panel and isn't a piece of junk then it seems good but I dunno there's a lot of strange things about it I would maybe try to find some reviews of it on youtube or something before committing. I have the Ugee 2150b which is the 22" 1080p version of the 1910b (also has an ips screen rather than tn) and I've liked it a lot the past year and a half I've had it. The lag isn't any better or worse than the other tablet monitors I've used (cintiqs, monoprice, surface pros), and the paralax is mostly negligible if you calibrate it well. The two issues I will say are some jitter if you're making slow or diagonal lines, which is something that I think a lot of the non wacom monitors seem to have issues with, and some minor build quality issues. If you plan on using this seriously or for a long time(like you aren't gonna replace it with a $3k cintiq after a year of selling anime porn) I would recommend either the 2150b or the hk1560 over the 1910b because the better resolution and MUCH better color quality and viewing angles with the ips panels will make a large difference. The 2150b is more expensive at $600 and the hk1560 is comparable to those other two at $430. Also Monoprice currently has their 22" model in stock for $430. All their tablet monitors seem to go in and out of stock very frequently but they have extremely competitive prices and seem to be just slightly dodgier quality rebrands of the identical Huion models Link for the monoprice while there are still six left in stock https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Ba...+tablet+monitor
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The huion, monoprice, and ugee 22" tablets are all pretty similar so if you find one for cheap it's probably a safe bet. Also I'm pretty the cintiqs and the apple iPad pro are the only things that support tilt recognition. I haven't really felt like I've missed out without it though.
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specifically try to get better at making lines as quickly and smoothly as possible. Like practically none of the tablets I've ever used have let me get a nice careful line going slowly like I can get with a brush on a piece of paper, the stabilizers and stuff just aren't that magical, so you need to get even better at that to translate well to digital stuff. it can be difficult but luckily/unfortunately there's a reason you rely heavily on ctrl+z when working digitally. Also using the vector line options in clip studio can help a lot with this too since it vectorizes your strokes and simplifies their shape but still realizes it's supposed to be a drawn line so it doesn't go crazy loving it up like if you try free handing something with a brush in illustrator.
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Also good posture It took me way to long to realize that drawing while laying on a couch made my line quality terrible
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i use a razer tartarus for clip studio, which is basically the same thing as the g13, it works well
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CrcleSqreSanchz posted:So being in Canada has a lot of advantages but finding a good graphics tablet display is not one of them. With a weak canadian dollar most of the ones you would recommend are high in price. Unless something changed the Monoprice 22" is basically a rebranded Huion Gt 220, so pretty good in terms of budget cintiq alternative, especially for $350. I would make real sure it's not all scratched up or has dead pixels or whatever since it's a refurb
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tvgm2 posted:Can you post the keymap you use for the Tartarus? I was gonna do this but Razer synapse stopped working today and now I can't access my saved button configs at all :/ the tartarus just goes to the default left half of keyboard map without any software going and that's not really helpful unless I just remap everything in manga studio
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Are you using the HDMI or dvi port on the monitor itself? On my ugee(which is nearly the same as the Huion and the monoprice) The HDMI Port Stopped Working After Like a month(I'm not sure why my phone is capitalizing everything) and I had to use the dvi instead
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