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sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

yoyomama posted:

Thought I'd share for those who want a tablet, the Surface Pro got marked down to $600: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-Pro/productID.275287300?Icid=Homepage_WhatsNew_3_Surface_Pro_010613

The trade off being less battery life and only one kickstand angle, but considering the Pro 2 is 400+ more and you can get a case that'll let you use multiple viewing angles, it looks like a decent deal.

It does look like a pretty good deal. You forgot to mention the Surface 2 pro has more battery life because it is a Haswell (4th gen) CPU. Surface 2 Pro would also be more powerful and run a little cooler.

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 22:19

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a list of all Wacom enabled tablets?

I know Lenovo is and Samsung is not. Right?

# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 21:00

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Yip Yips posted:

Gabe from PA has a review up.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/05/23/surface-pro-3

Short version is that the N-trig works pretty well, the Windows button being moved to the right side means you're going to accidentally press it a lot if you're a right-handed drawer, and performance on the i5 model feels sluggish, presumably because of the increased resolution.

So once again I'm probably going to hold off and hope they nail the SP4. Perpetual cycle of moderate disappointment.

Dammit. At least that means it should push down the price of the Surface 2 Pro... right?

# ¿ May 24, 2014 17:40

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Best all in one tablet solution right now?

Surface Pro 3 or Cintiq tablet?

I was told the other day that the new cintiq tablets can plug into any PC or mac and actually use their horsepower instead of the built in stuff. This seems very interesting to me. Any thoughts? I was leaning toward the Surface Pro 3 until I heard that.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 17:30

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Wowporn posted:

For the price of the Cintiq companion you could get a surface pro 3 for portable use and the cintiq 13" monitor for at a computer use.

This would be great if I didn't already have a Cintiq 21UX at home. I suppose I like the idea of being able to plug the cintiq into a friend's machine or into a school computer, if it came down to it. The cost really is prohibitive though. Especially compared to the Surface 3 Pro, which seems more portable for a sculpting solution on the go. Arguably less powerful though.

# ¿ Jun 23, 2015 23:50

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

keyframe posted:

Got a surface book last friday and it is finally the perfect device I have been searching for since the first surface got announced. Can't recommend it enough for anyone wanting a mobile art setup.

Can you, or anyone else, tell me why the surface book or surface tablet is any better than the cintiq companion outside of the price point? I think the surface devices are still overall cheaper than the portable cintiqs but I could be wrong.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2015 01:49

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

keyframe posted:

Surface book is an excellent laptop and an excellent tablet. All others compromise so they are somewhere in the middle. The screen size is bigger than the cintiq and surface pro while being just as portable as the surface pro (fits the same case). It has a gfx card which help run maya/max etc much better than cintiq companion or SP.

It really is near flawless for artwork. It runs everything I throw at it while not compromising on power or battery life.

Thank you for this but I am very keen on CPU and GPU over anything else. I will be using this for zbrush, maya, and photoshop, so performance is key. Looks like I have to pay extra for a NVIDIA GPU which kind of sucks. When you account for that, it costs about as much as a cintiq companion. The cintiq companion 2 is great because it can plug into any workstation and use the power of that workstation. Also, wacom digitizers are still the best in the biz. I didn't know the surface book screen is bigger than the cintiq companion though. That is interesting.

The surface book mount - where the screen attaches to the keyboard - looks really questionable. Why the obvious gap there?

Lastly, does anyone know of any great cybermonday deals on either the Surfacebook or the Cintiq Companion?

THANKS!

# ¿ Nov 29, 2015 01:16

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Definitely want the dedicated GPU for 3d stuff.

Wacom is doing the cyber monday thing. Still fairly steep prices IMO.
https://www.wacom.com/en-us/store/cintiq

Looks like the Surface Book is cheaper as long as you don't get the GPU upgrade.

http://www.cnet.com/products/microsoft-surface-book/

# ¿ Nov 29, 2015 21:45

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Wow. Well - The surface book seems to DEFINITELY win out in terms of screen quality.

WTF??

# ¿ Nov 29, 2015 23:40

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

http://www.cnet.com/products/microsoft-surface-book/

quote:

Our Surface Book review unit is closer to the $1,699 model that doubles the internal solid-state storage to 256GB (we have a 512GB SSD, which does not appear to be a currently available option with the Core i5 CPU). As this review was being written, we also received a second test unit that included one of the more intriguing Surface Book options, a custom Nvidia graphics chip built into the keyboard base (so it's only available when the two halves of the system are together), plus a faster Core i7 processor and 16GB of RAM, for a total of $2,699/AU$4,199. Spoiler alert: The significant added expense doesn't turn this into the ultimate PC gaming laptop, but it's good enough for mainstream games at medium graphics settings, and helpful for HD-or-better photo and video editing. (Look for some game benchmarks further along in this review.)

$2700 !! Why would they put the nvidia gpu in the keyboard part vs. the tablet part? Also - it looks like if you apply pressure to the closed surface book, you would break it due to the gap. That gap makes no sense to me at all.

Now the cintiq companion cybermonday deal at $1700 seems a lot more reasonable!

I just really want the nvidia gpu, as well as the extra ram / HD space. Do I want it for 1k more though? That seems excessive, just to have a tablet built in to your laptop.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Nov 30, 2015

# ¿ Nov 30, 2015 00:04

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Looks like this is a misprint on the Wacom site. Looking at the ad below, it clearly says 150 off of 1850. WTF?

Looking at the website though shows the cybermonday sale makes it 1850, not 1700... dammit.

https://www.wacom.com/en-us/store/pen-displays/cintiq-companion-2-256-gb

EDIT:

Looks like none of the cintiq companions come with Nvidia cards.

The hardware express keys are pretty nifty but not at such price hike over the Surface. Also - no cybermonday deals on Surface 4 or the book as far as I can tell.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 30, 2015

# ¿ Nov 30, 2015 03:39

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Surprising that it would cost that much to print out. Shapeways.com is pretty cheap for a piece that small. Alternatively, you could make friends at your local hackerspace and use their 3d printer. A little more work but it might be worth it in the long run. The local hackerspace here only charges 30$ for monthly fees.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2015 07:08

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Can someone point me to a reliable review comparing the Cintiq Companion 2 with the MS Surface Book? I can't seem to find much online but I believe the consensus of this thread is that the MS Surface Book is better... (?)

Is this mostly due to the screen? Seems like the stylus and tooth on the screen are better on the Cintiq but the actual display / screen is not as good as the Ipad or the Surface Book.

Really having a hard time deciding between the Cintiq Companion 2 and the Surface Book. They are close to the same price point once you add the Nvidia GPU to the Surface Book.

EDIT:

Clip Studio is on sale today for 20$

http://www.clipstudio.net/en/site/aplinfo/csp/net_pr_new

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jun 23, 2016

# ¿ Jun 23, 2016 21:32

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

neonnoodle posted:

I have not owned either, but here is what I know from a technical specs standpoint:

Cintiq Companion:
- stylus supports tilt
- has hardware ExpressKeys
- crappy battery life
- textured screen surface
- very little sign of robust support on the part of the manufacturer. They have abandoned earlier models, so beware of that.
- very wide aspect ratio for the screen (more widescreen)

Surface Book:
- non Wacom stylus, so the cursor can lag when hovering. Still some issues with jittery lines when working very slowly and tightly.
- there have been some complaints about power/sleep issues and MS has been slow to fix them
- very slick screen
- detachable keyboard, but you can't use it when the screen is detached (it doesn't do wireless)

Thanks for this breakdown. The Surface Book has a notably longer battery life however the GPU is in the keyboard portion... AFAIK. So once the surfacebook becomes a tablet, you remove the Nvidia GPU which I would want for Zbrush. WTF? Seems like there are distinct pros and cons to both.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 00:24

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

What gets me is the crazy hinge and apparent GAP WHEN IT IS CLOSED. Really? Why would you create a laptop or hybrid which has any gap there?

This kind of stuff does not make choosing between the Cintiq Companion 2 and the Surface Book any easier. The Cintiq is designed with artists in mind but has shortcomings like the cost, the questionable screen quality and relatively short battery life. The Surface Book seems better all around but doesn't really seemed to be designed for artists... Also - there are VERY few 3d artists I know who work without any keyboard.

Guess I could get something like this for the companion vs. hauling around a fullsize USB keyboard.

*sigh*

# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 02:54

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

bring back old gbs posted:

I own the older version of that, the Razer Nostromo. It's a pretty awesome idea since you can hold that thing upside down cupped in your hand, and sit your tablet on it, but after a few hours the angle I was holding my wrist at would begin to bother me. The plastic pad you put your palm on has 2 adjustment levels to push it a bit further out but nothing to adjust the actual tilt your wrist sits at since it's designed for desk use. 15 minutes on my 3d printer could probably fix that though.

I have seperate profiles for Zbrush and Photoshop, basic CTRL, ALT, SPACE, a couple letters, you can program it to do macros as well, it just mimics a keyboard you hold in your palm. All the XtReMe LEDs can be disabled as well.

Interesting idea holding it upside down but that sounds like a RSI nightmare. I think I would rather get an Evoluent vertical mouse, which has a lot of programmable buttons but won't destroy your arm.

Still - the Razer sounds pretty cool. Wish it was easier for me to try all of these things out. I was impressed with the Cintiq Companion when I had the chance to try it out but I haven't had a chance to try out the Surface products yet.

... and yes I know people who really like the Apple Ipad Pro / Apple Pencil but I am interested in using the tablet for 3d sculpting as much as I am painting.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 22:20

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

neonnoodle posted:

I have not owned either, but here is what I know from a technical specs standpoint:

Cintiq Companion:
- stylus supports tilt
- has hardware ExpressKeys
- crappy battery life
- textured screen surface
- very little sign of robust support on the part of the manufacturer. They have abandoned earlier models, so beware of that.
- very wide aspect ratio for the screen (more widescreen)

Surface Book:
- non Wacom stylus, so the cursor can lag when hovering. Still some issues with jittery lines when working very slowly and tightly.
- there have been some complaints about power/sleep issues and MS has been slow to fix them
- very slick screen
- detachable keyboard, but you can't use it when the screen is detached (it doesn't do wireless)

Looked at a Surface Book yesterday and was fairly impressed. The screen definitely seemed better than the cintiq companion but no tooth, of course. Felt like drawing on a white board with a felt tip more than anything else. Definitely got some lag with the cursor but strangely less lag using the drawing software. Also - the in store model was an i5 so I am hoping the i7 will have less lag. Going to search out a store with an i7 model to confirm this. Gotta admit though, it is INCREDIBLY light. Only 3.5 lbs and when the screen is detached, that part is only 1.5 lbs. The base does have the nvidia gpu but the screen / tablet part still has an intel gpu in it, so you can still watch movies on the go etc. It's really too bad the keyboard doesn't just become a wireless keyboard once detached.

A little paranoid that if I go with the cintiq companion 2 ... there will be just a companion 3 around the corner and they will stop support. The tech in the surface book definitely seems newer than the tech in the companion 2. On the other hand the companion 2 is designed specifically for an artist and I prefer the wacom digitizer... *sigh*

EDIT:

This is pretty cool.
https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-Pen-Tip-Kit/productID.325725100

Very reasonable price if it helps the feel at all.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jul 4, 2016

# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 10:17

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Best deal on a MS Surface Book Pro? Anyone?

# ¿ Sep 26, 2016 07:51

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

windex posted:

The best deal is that if you aren't doing 3d, the cheaper Surface Pro 4 is probably good enough so long as it's not your primary device.

I made an effort to use the low end Surface Pro 4 and it has zero issues doing sketching in PS or running Lightroom (which is my main use for it). It did get laggy working on 600dpi A4 sized documents in Clip Studio Paint, but 300dpi is fine.

As long as it's not the device you are finishing your work on, and you just want a mobile wysiwyg tablet for sketches, for $600 it's tough to beat.

drat. I was planning on using it for zbrush on the go and the occasional maya session. The Surface Book Pro meets all my needs (more or less) but the price has actually gone up, not down.

Don't trust the portable Wacom products because they are generally behind the curve on most tech except stylus tech / pressure sensitivity. Although I do like the hardware buttons in the Wacom products. Still prefer the Surface Book over the Cintiq Companion at roughly the same price.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 16:05

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Serious question:

Does anyone recommend a tablet or tablet / laptop hybrid better than either the Microsoft Surface Book Pro or a Cintiq Companion (I7 / nvidia variety) for zbrush / maya / photoshop work?

I am having a hard enough time deciding between the two but I am wondering if I am overlooking some other option. This will be replacing my old Asus ROG laptop I have been using as a mobile workstation.

EDIT:

cloudy posted:

https://www.consumerreports.org/laptop-computers/microsoft-surface-laptops-and-tablets-not-recommended-by-consumer-reports/

Probably slightly unlucky, but not as unlucky as you might imagine.

I've had my surface pro for 3 years now. I really want their reliability to improve by the time I need a new one because I love their concept so much.

That's depressing. The Surfacebook pro I tried out in the store seemed pretty responsive and powerful.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Nov 7, 2017

# ¿ Nov 7, 2017 00:11

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Does anyone have any strong feelings of the new line of Cintiqs (mobile studio) vs. the Cintiq companion?

Also - and impending - does anyone know of any wacom Black Friday sales for er.... the above mentioned Cintiq models?

# ¿ Nov 21, 2017 06:41

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

bitmap posted:

WEE WOO WEE WOO BREAKING WACOM NEWS

they have released a 3 button pen

That kinda seals my decision to get a cintiq hybrid. I use maya and zbrush regularly. Very cool.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2017 05:47

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Richie Stardust posted:

I need a tablet and will be buying one this week. I work in electrical power and it would be tremendously handy to have a tablet that can mark up .pdf files and also create logic and electrical drawings using pre-made symbols like how AUTOCAD uses blocks. The only special condition is that I would be carrying it around in the field and travelling with it weekly so something with a little durability and a travel case would be best. Any suggestions on tablet/software?

Noob Status == I just found out today that the name isn't pronounced "Way-Com."

Maybe a lenovo yoga? There are tons of new models. Kind of considering one myself now.

It isn't as advanced as the Wacom mobile studio or the Surface book but it is certainly a lot cheaper.

The fujitsu tablet hybrids were pretty cool too but I think fujitsu is going under so... don't expect support soon.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Nov 24, 2017

# ¿ Nov 24, 2017 02:55

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

JuniperCake posted:

If you are going for a yoga, go for a Yoga Thinkpad. That line tends to have better build quality compared to the regular lenovo yogas. It's pretty good if you want a general purpose laptop that also functions as a drawing tablet. I'm pretty fond of mine.

But if you are getting something purely for art and don't need an all-purpose laptop, I think an ipad pro would be better than the yoga. Especially so now that you can use clip studio on it.

Been looking at this but the Thinkpad version is an intel GPU not Nvidia.

The 720 seems like a better deal for NVIDIA GPU at 899.99
https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/yoga/700-series/Yoga-720-15/p/80X7008HUS
amazon
vs. the Yoga Thinkpad 2 for 1,099.00
https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/yoga/700-series/Yoga-720-15/p/80X7008HUS

Am I missing something here? As a graphics guy I don't want to forego Nvidia for intel GPU ... plus it is cheaper?!?
The Yoga 910 doesn't even have an nvidia gpu and it is smaller and more expensive. Oh... the 720 only has an i5... duh.

In the meantime I am running out of time to decide on a refurb Wacom mobile studio. The Lenovo's are significanly cheaper but I have been wanting a portable cintiq for a ... long ... time.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 26, 2017

# ¿ Nov 26, 2017 22:17

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

windex posted:

It basically works precisely like a Cintiq that actually is Adobe RGB calibrated, sans the eraser on the pen. I don't notice anything different (like tooltips), but I don't use Zbrush.

I am also looking for a (portable) zbrush solution and still haven't made a choice yet.
Anyone have any experience with refurb Wacoms?

I had kind of a lovely experience with Wacom for Black Friday, so I am a little wary of buying a used or refurbished on ebay. I seem to remember someone else on this thread sending back their wacom repeatedly. Dead pixels was it?
Anyways - the surface book 2 line is roughly the same cost of a refurb mobile studio but I am still torn.

13 or 16 wacom mobile studio? Surface book 2? Oooorrr... risk a refurb despite my weird experience on Black Friday?

Some things to consider:

The mobile studio can be flipped to work for left handed people (which I am).
Has tooth on the screen but questionable brightness.
13 inch version actually gets better reviews than the 16 on some websites.

The surface book still has the better battery life and the obvious advantage of coming with a keyboard.
Weirdly though, it does not have a stylus. This is basically the opposite of a mobile studio pro, which comes with a stylus but not a keyboard.

I know I am echoing others but how does Wacom not have any stand or decent case for the mobile studio pro line? It boggles the mind, considering the mobile studio 16 can cost 3k!

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Dec 21, 2017

# ¿ Dec 21, 2017 06:41

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Strange question but does anyone feel a shift in work productivity when switching from a laptop (or hybrid) to a full tablet computer?

I guess I am wondering if I go with a tablet PC, will I feel compelled to paint / sculpt more? Also - a related question: The Samsung ATIV and the Asus Zenbook both look like pretty good hybrids. Does anyone have any strong opinions about them? The Samsung has a wacom digitizer I believe. They seem like cheaper alternatives to the surface book and actually include ports! The idea of carrying a breakout box (with the surface book) every time I want to connect to a monitor / projector / TV is a little absurd. Of course the mobile studio pro seems to have a similar problem in that you need a usb-c to hdmi adapter (?!?) to connect to an external video source. REALLY? No stand, no keyboard AND no video output? You even need to buy a "wacom link" product to use the mobile studio as an external tablet / cintiq.

The research continues...

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 5, 2018

# ¿ Jan 5, 2018 22:09

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Trip report:

In love with my Surface Book 2. No complaints except having to buy the pen separately. Except for that it is amazing. Battery life is really impressive, mostly because it seems to scale so well between 1-4ghz depending on demand. Doodling in zbrush on the screen and seeing the CPU rarely get past 1.8ghz was awesome. Keyshot is the only thing which comes close to maxing it out.

Weird quirk is resolution. Older apps look terrible due to ridiculously high res (4k) so I have to keep switching between resolutions depending on what I am doing. Minor thing though because the screen is gorgeous and I really can do almost anything on it with no noticeable lag.

Still trying to figure out the best way to use it though. Tablet mode blocks the keys and makes it hard to use zbrush or any painting program due to lack of shortcuts.

Is there a vertical mouse with programmable buttons? Or a wireless hand keypad / gameboard you guys recommend? (The logitech G13 is too much money / features and not wireless.)

# ¿ Feb 6, 2018 19:27

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Electricb7 posted:

The Razer Tartarus is what I use and its fantastic. I cant use Photoshop without it. Speeds up my work x10.
But I have no loving idea why the prices are so high right now. Thats loving insane. I think I got mines for $30.

The G13 might be your best bet. If you are left handed you can get a G600 mouse.

The Tartarus has been recommended before and it looks like ebay is the best bet pricewise.
I am left handed but I also have RSI. On top of that, i want something wireless, if possible.

Jacobus Spades: That looks awesome. I may go that route since I really want to use this thing in tablet mode.

particle9: Researching this now since it is the most compact route.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Feb 8, 2018

# ¿ Feb 8, 2018 19:58

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Anyone else having problem making their surface book actually work with pressure sensitivity in photoshop? I feel like this is a driver issue or some kind of windows setting.

Weird that it works fine in autodesk sketchbook and zbrush but not photoshop.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2018 03:34

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Listerine posted:

I had the exact same problem in reverse, where touch sensitivity worked in other apps but not Zbrush (the only one I actually needed it for). This was on Surface Studio.

Finding and installing old drivers fixed the issue, if I remember correctly yes, it was for Wintab. I found the installer for Wintab-1.0.0.18-64-bit, you can try searching for that.

Should probably just upgrade to CC - been putting it off because I despise cloud based software.

The Tablet Pro software seems like just what I needed. Still fiddling with the free trial but it works pretty well so far.

I don't really want to carry around an additional peripheral if I can help it.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2018 00:35

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Listerine posted:

Mea culpa. I meant "don't have a reliable connection to the internet" in general. My internet's been going down every night this past week for an hour here and there and that's what was on my mind.

I understand you don't need to be connected to the internet to use CC, but does it do periodic license checks, and shut you out if enough checks fail?

I second this about the CC stuff. Obnoxious.

If you buy software, you should own it - not rent it.

Free version of tablet pro doesn't allow me to activate the toggle function for the keystrokes. Wat? So I can't hold the virtual shift button down with my finger? Hmm. Screw it. Might be worth the 20 bucks. That's half what the nintendo controller costs... just so I can use Zbrush in tablet mode. *le sigh*

# ¿ Feb 17, 2018 20:57

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Anyone know much about this software and how it compares to Sai?
Medibang Paint
https://medibangpaint.com/en/pc/

# ¿ Mar 6, 2018 07:36

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Fruity20 posted:

has anyone tried the mobile studio and if so....was it worth it? personally not a fan of the new ctinq pros. the old buttons will forever be missed.

I have a bit. Played around with it briefly.

Pros:

Small, powerful cintiq on the go
Wacom tech / pressure sensitivity / responsiveness
12 inch version is much more portable / practical and actually gets better reviews than the bigger one
3d scanner built into the back

Cons:

Missing keyboard and input devices make it a LOT less portable because then you end up carrying around multiple cables and input devices.
No stand or built in thing to prop it up makes it awkward to use at a desk or table.
3d scanner is pretty weak compared to modern photogrammetry or other laser scanners. Good for "hobbyists" I suppose.
Still very expensive

# ¿ Oct 8, 2018 19:06

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

For what it's worth, Krita appears to work MUCH better on the surface book 2 vs. photoshop for digital painting. Pressure sensitivity especially.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2019 10:33

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Tired of fighting with photoshop plus drivers for my surface book 2. Just ended up going with Krita and Verve
http://www.taron.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4
Both free and both work beautifully with my surface book 2 without driver issuse. Verve is especially awesome. If you haven't tried it yet you should. Fluid dynamics FTW!

# ¿ Feb 20, 2019 22:15

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

autojive posted:

Lefty chiming in. I think my situation is a little different that yours in that it sounds like you use a mouse with your right hand. I've always used my mouse with the left and I have my cintiq situated on an arm to the left of my main monitor so I can swing it around over my mouse pad when I need it and work from there with the keyboard still on my right side. I did end up purchasing a Logitech g13 gaming keypad to use as well, though. I have it programmed with three different sets of presets and macros I frequently use in my most used programs.

Just looked up the price of one and it seems to be pretty loving ridiculous for a discontinued product but there are similar products out there still, like the Razer Tartarus v2 Gaming Keypad that's still available.

https://www.razer.com/gaming-keypads/razer-tartarus-v2/RZ07-02270100-R3U1 (May be cheaper on other sites.)

I also have an old Razer Nostromo that was given to me by a friend if you want to have it to test out. I would just charge the cost of shipping. Send me a PM if you want it.

Why don't they have this for your right hand?!? I can't seem to find anywhere that has a right hand version or even anything similar for a right handed person.

There is this though https://www.newegg.com/logitech-910-002864-g600-usb-wired/p/N82E16826104674
... Which is great for the programmable keys but not ergonomic and not wireless.

Perfect thing would be right handed (I draw / paint with my left) wireless, ergonomic mouse with about 10 programmable buttons. Does this thing exist?

# ¿ Nov 29, 2021 18:11

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

I keep forgetting about this thread.

What is your best tablet artist setup or mobile tablet configuration?

That is to say: I have cintiq 21UX on an arm and it's getting a little old in the tooth but I am hesitant to replace it. The bigger problem is the mobile stuff. I had a Surface Book 2 and loved it for many years but it eventually got a little too slow for what I was trying to do. Namely Maya + Zbrush. Now I have an Asus G15 and love the huge boost in power but really miss the built in tablet. Thought about getting an ipad but found out today that when an ipad is tethered to a PC laptop, the pressure sensitivity doesn't work with zbrush in that configuration. At leas that is what my friend told me and bought a huion kanvas to solve the problem. So now I am torn. Do I get a cheap monoprice or cheap intuos to connect to the G15 or do I go with some other option like a used cintiq 16 and carry it around with my G15? Or maybe get a used surface book 3, which is around the same price as a modern ipad? Or even get a HP envy or a Yoga? There are so many drat options.

As much as I like the ipad experience with the apple pencil and procreate I just can't justify the cost of a modern ipad if there is no pressure sensitivity with Zbrush. Yeah - I know there is Nomad but it isn't the same.

Hate to quote a random person but this might help some people:

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When I was more active on the Nomad forums I repeatedly asked for a programable hotkey solution for Nomad similar to the iPadOS version of Clip Studio Paint's "Edge Keyboard".
I tried some work arounds like the Tap Strap programable wearable keyboard but it was more trouble than it was worth.
The problem for artists is that most of us are hotkey junkies and if we are using the iPad in our lap there is no good hotkey solution except for the Edge Keyboard in CSP. You hold the stylus in the dominant hand and the nondominant hand steadies the tablet leaving usually just the thumb free to touch buttons. Wacom knew this which is why their tablets and mobile computers had programmable buttons on the edge of the display casing.
This is one reason I eventually dumped the iPad Pro 12.9" for cartooning and casual modeling for the Samsung Galaxy Book 360 i7 16GB RAM 15" 2in1 laptop.
Bigger screen.
Ergonomic stylus (I bought the Lamy EMR stylus)
Windows OS so I could run ZBrush for casual use.
On screen programmable touch hotkeys via the 3rd party Tablet Pro software.
It's kinda a cross between a Wacom 16" MSP and a iPad Pro 12". If I ever get deeper into Blender I'll look at an Acer D7 Ezel.
My only regret is Nomad, which is fun for sculpting is not ported to Windows

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jan 26, 2022

# ¿ Jan 22, 2022 06:46

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

Well - I just saw a student using the ipad pro with zbrush the other day with working touch sensitivity, so I know it works at least with a ipad pro connected to a MAC workstation. Still don't know if it works with a PC laptop but I am guessing I have to buy an app to find out.

Hmm. Beginning to think I should just buy a used cintiq 16 or even just a cheap hiuon kanvas. Not sure. Those things are a pain in the rear end to lug around compared to an ipad.

At least I know the cintiq and huion will work with zbrush flawlessly every time. Without having to pay for an additional app.

Also - WTH?!?
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/conceptd-series/conceptd7ezelpro

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Feb 7, 2022

# ¿ Feb 6, 2022 21:58

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

There are a TON of new tablets / transformers coming from a number of manufacturers. Notably Asus but also a few others.

The wacom mobile studio is NOT a good option. Mostly because of age and lack of portability / keyboard. Also too many cables to carry around.

The Wacom One is around 350$ but feels like a cheap cintiq and an answer to Huion and a number of cheaper competitors.

Not sure if it's any better TBH. My friend is pretty happy with his Huion Kanvas and I am seeing a LOT of people opting for ipads in the classroom vs. buying a wacom tablet etc.

Of course the classroom computers are macs and I have heard people say there is a definite lag when connecting an ipad to a PC for drawing / painting / sculpting etc. so I am back to considering some kind of small cintiq or cintiq alternative since I carry around a PC laptop.

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 22:19

sigma 6: Nov 27, 2004; the mirror would do well to reflect further

So - I am battling this idea of portability - as I am sure a lot of goons are.

Do I get a fancy 2 n 1 like the zenbook duo pro or do I carry around a tablet?

The thing is ... there are a TON of different tablets out now at some amazing price points. So I have a few questions for you guys:

If I don't go with a 2 n 1, what is the best tablet for left handed people? What's the best tablet for lefties WITH a screen?
Is there that much different in quality with a Wacom to warrant the price hike?
Some of the Huion and Xpen models are both impressive AND cheap but I have never bought non Wacom devices.

I think it's time I do that since my last bamboo finally bit the dust and I haven't carried around an intuos Pro in many years.
This guy kinda drones on but he makes some good points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaooGghYRL4

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jul 4, 2022

# ¿ Jul 1, 2022 00:26

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