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There's a shitload of good info online, you are correct, but the request was for books of which there are extremely few English language books on.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:There's a shitload of good info online, you are correct, but the request was for books of which there are extremely few English language books on. That's correct. Not even THAT much online. I did find this though: https://new.vk.com/album-16586181_114647532 Not in English, unfortunately. 
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Iiiinteresting. Any idea when the period for it is? I would guess dark/Middle Ages and maybe Renaissance and classical. As far as anyone has said, this list is still current quote:The themes currently in the book are: Comes out next month
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No Pun Intended posted:Isn't kings of war built off Black Powder anyway? Did anyone tell them Hail Caesar exists?
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No Pun Intended posted:Isn't kings of war built off Black Powder anyway? No, Kings of War is its own game from scratch. A list of historical armies was requested by players, so they made this book - it's also a standalone, so you don't need the main KoW2E book to play as well, and if you want you can pit your late Imperial Romans against an army of Elves, and find out who would have really won. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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As far as ranked fantasy games go, KoW is probably the best out there today. I'm not sure about how accurate this adaptation will be, though. Speaking of semi-historicals, does anyone know when the Konflikt '47 expansion is due? I'd like to play Japan but they don't appear in the main book.
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moths posted:As far as ranked fantasy games go, KoW is probably the best out there today. I'm not sure about how accurate this adaptation will be, though. Next year. You can play Japan, but you'd probably have to use the German Zombies and Spinne for now in the Japanese Army list. The Japanese list will be in the main BA2 rulebook.
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I hope KoW Historicals is successful if for nothing else they continue to come out with rules that replace GW Historicals (GW's best rulesets).
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Hmm...my LGS is putting out an offer for a free box of infantry if you pre-order a copy of the Bolt Action 2 rulebook. I'm kind of tempted because it's actually seeing play here, but dammit they gave Shermans an 'easily catches fire' rule! This will not stand! 
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Endman posted:Cross posting from the Oath thread: If you're doing LIMP Romans, pick a specific army (I aimed for Julian's) and then consult Luke Sarson's work to figure out shield patterns. http://lukeuedasarson.com/NotitiaPatterns.html He breaks down most of the Notitia Dignitatum and identifies various Legions and Aux Pal units by East/West, etc. IIRC, I only "aimed" for Julian because of gaps in the record and my preference to err on the side of shield patterns that were manageable paint wise. HTH
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Yvonmukluk posted:Hmm...my LGS is putting out an offer for a free box of infantry if you pre-order a copy of the Bolt Action 2 rulebook. They have the dumb commissar rules, too. I just house rule that poo poo out, but I don't have an LGS.
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Colonial Air Force posted:They have the dumb commissar rules, too. I just house rule that poo poo out, but I don't have an LGS. Oh for gently caress's sake.
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It's easy to ignore by just not talking commissars. Hopefully that gets fixed in BA2.
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It's just...are there any WWII minis games that aren't borrowing from the Big Book of Wehraboo Cliches?
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It's one thing that makes Too Fat Lardies really, really stand out. They don't give the SS super-man rules or feature combustible Shermans, either!
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moths posted:It's one thing that makes Too Fat Lardies really, really stand out. They don't give the SS super-man rules or feature combustible Shermans, either! I hate to disappoint, but Chain of Command does have the Ronson tag for most shermans. I'm not sure it actually does anything, though. They also list Comissars as a soviet support option, but there's no elaboration on what they do. EDIT: Oh, Ronsons explode on a 4+ instead of a 5+, so yeah, flammable shermans. Commissars are apparently an "agree what they do beforehand" type thing. Both of those are from the errata. spectralent fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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gently caress commissars, where's my feldjagerkorps to round up and shoot traitors to the fatherland
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Oh heck, I was thinking of IABSM. Come on, you guys! You're better than that! E: Their Commissars used to count as two guys for morale purposes, at least in the first errata. moths fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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In fact, with more careful checking, only Shermans are Ronsons. Even other sponson-stowage tanks don't have it.
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If you're gonna have any tanks more prone to bursting into flames, the Panther should drat well be it. Edit: been listening to a podcast interviewing one of the FoW devs, and apparently they use internet forums when it comes to researching. God loving dammit. 
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Tamir Lenk posted:If you're doing LIMP Romans, pick a specific army (I aimed for Julian's) and then consult Luke Sarson's work to figure out shield patterns. http://lukeuedasarson.com/NotitiaPatterns.html Yeah, I've been making considerable use of that site; it's fantastic. I eventually went with the Lanciarii Stobenses because they're super easy to paint and they could have been (can't be certain) a part of Valens' army at Adrianople, which lends them the dubious honour of having the Emperor killed on their watch, which is hilarious. 
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FWIW, there's a huge discussion going on in the CoC forums right now about the merits of the "Ronson" tag as it applies to various tanks. Apparently it had much to do with the dry s wet storage ammo bins, and I know I've seen entries in the Consolidated Arsenal lists where only Shermans with dry storage get the Ronson tag. Also, the rules for Commissars aren't listed in the main rules because their roles varied pretty strongly by the stage of the war. Depending on the local conditions, they ran the gamut from functional assistants/adjutants to effective morale officers to ruthless executioners to tireless propagandists. It has been suggested that the best use for them is as bonuses to the rolls for the "mens' opinion of the senior leader" in the "At the Sharp End" campaign supplement, perhaps as well as a further penalty if your commander gets summoned before his CO as a "carpet parade." Like most of the CoC rules, the period in which the game is taking place is what will determine how most stuff should work (a fact which the historical grognard in me greatly appreciates.
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CoC is also pretty clearly made with the open invitation for players to make it their own. As in, the rulebook has only like 2-3 types of platoons for the major armies, as you're expected to make your own army lists. We made our own commissar rules, where the commissar acts as an additional officer (which is good), but he can take priority when you roll dice to activate officers, which is bad if you'd rather give orders with another officer in another position. That kind of make sense from the memoirs and similar that we've read, where the commissars could help keep a platoon moving and operating, but also muck things up when they decided that they had a better plan than the ordinary officers, and overrule their orders. All without the Hollywood battlefield executions of FoW and other more fantasy style WW2 games.
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Ilor posted:FWIW, there's a huge discussion going on in the CoC forums right now about the merits of the "Ronson" tag as it applies to various tanks. Apparently it had much to do with the dry s wet storage ammo bins, and I know I've seen entries in the Consolidated Arsenal lists where only Shermans with dry storage get the Ronson tag. Well tell them if the Sherman gets it, the Panther should too, because it had giant loving ammo ranks in the (paper thin) sides and gasoline tended to pool on the engine deck. The 'Ronson' nickname was bullshit invented by Belton Cooper/Belton Cooper's ghostwriter. The only time Ronson used the 'lights every time' slogan before the war was in one print advert from the early 20s. There's no proof Shermans caught fire more than any other tank - except maybe that Sherman crews survived to bitch about the fires later, while their counterparts burned to death in the tanks they couldn't escape in time. I am angry. Angry about tanks.
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I have heard that the Germans also called them "Tommycookers" but I'm not sure if that's just filtered back frontline "wisdom" either.
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lilljonas posted:CoC is also pretty clearly made with the open invitation for players to make it their own. As in, the rulebook has only like 2-3 types of platoons for the major armies, as you're expected to make your own army lists. I am stealing your house rule for all my WW2 games with commissars.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Well tell them if the Sherman gets it, the Panther should too, because it had giant loving ammo ranks in the (paper thin) sides and gasoline tended to pool on the engine deck.
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lilljonas posted:CoC is also pretty clearly made with the open invitation for players to make it their own. As in, the rulebook has only like 2-3 types of platoons for the major armies, as you're expected to make your own army lists. How do you determine if the Komissar messes up the order of things?
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Arquinsiel posted:I have heard that the Germans also called them "Tommycookers" but I'm not sure if that's just filtered back frontline "wisdom" either. I always thought that was because British tank crews would always over-load their vehicles with extra ammunition, rather than the Sherman being made from firelighters.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Edit: been listening to a podcast interviewing one of the FoW devs, and apparently they use internet forums when it comes to researching. God loving dammit. I don't see whats wrong with this unless you are suggesting that they just take crazy bullshit from the World of Tanks forums and put it into FoW verbatim. Which isn't what they do or what that guy was talking about.
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Endman posted:I always thought that was because British tank crews would always over-load their vehicles with extra ammunition, rather than the Sherman being made from firelighters. 
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spectralent posted:How do you determine if the Komissar messes up the order of things? I don't remember exactly how we wrote these (we sorely need to compile our house rules), but I think it might be that the commissar will automatically take the first 4 if any are rolled, and that you'll only get to use your normal senior leaders if you roll two or more fours. It's still a bit experimental.
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Endman posted:Yeah, I've been making considerable use of that site; it's fantastic. I love your work on these mini's! Can you say where you got them? And what are you using as a base? 25mm plywood? So my local group is really getting into skirmish games, think max 20 units a side - is there a ruleset that allows for roman era skirmish games?
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Isn't there a Roman era version of SAGA or just the Crusades?
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Isn't there a Roman era version of SAGA or just the Crusades? Late Rome era Saga: Invasions is in the works, but won't be out until January at the earliest. BrainParasite fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Aug 14, 2016 |
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Holy poo poo. This sherman discussion is giving me so much deja vu. Did it show up in this thread with the exact same points like 8 months ago?
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Commissar Kip posted:I love your work on these mini's! Can you say where you got them? And what are you using as a base? 25mm plywood? Thank you! These guys are from Footsore Miniatures, specifically this range. I'm painting them for SAGA: Invasions (due Q1 2017) and for other various small-scale Skirmish games like Open Combat.
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