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Victrix Vikings are right there for all your big axe needs.
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lilljonas posted:Speaking of KS, I just finally got my shipping email from Fireforge from their Samurai KS. Six boxes of plastic soldiers on the way! This is what I need to make enough troops for two opposing armies. Man, they really botched the delivery of the KS to their backers. I didn't back the kickstarter and I was able to buy the entire range from an online retailer over a month ago. The models are pretty nice, but wait until you see the weirdness with the torsos/legs.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:10
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"From the foreword to 'The Complete Compleat Enchanter' by L. Sprague de Camp & Fletcher Pratt posted:As a history, military, and naval buff, Pratt devised a naval war game, to which his friends were invited once a month. In odd moments, he had whittled out scale models (55 feet = inch) of the world's warships, using balsa wood, wires, and pins, until there were hundreds of models crowding his shelves. The game called for the players to crawl around on the floor, moving their models the distances allowed on scales marked in knots; estimating ranges in inches to the ships on which they were firing; and writing down these estimates. Then the referees chased the players off and measured the actual ranges, penalizing ships hit so many points, according to the size of the shells, and depriving them of so many knots of speed, so many guns, and so on. When a ship had lost all its points, it was taken from the floor. There were special provisions for merchant ships, shore batteries, submarines, torpedoes, and airplanes. Randomly stumbled across talk of old miniature wargaming while reading last night.
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Mar 18, 2024 18:57
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Class Warcraft posted:Man, they really botched the delivery of the KS to their backers. I didn't back the kickstarter and I was able to buy the entire range from an online retailer over a month ago. Lol is it worse than the Warlord games samurai? And yes, boxes were seen in the wild in August. Getting your Early Bird kickstarter pledge in March makes that a bit of a bummer. But to be 100% honest it's not like I've had the spare time to paint them up anyway.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:47
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StashAugustine posted:Now I just need to figure out how many jomsvikings I'm gonna need for Saga. Wish they had a few more daneaxe guys Probably at least double what you intended initially
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Mar 18, 2024 21:57
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I'm thinking 16 guard and 32 warriors for both hand weapons and two handed axes. I think I might just hope mixing up one and two handed axes looks acceptable
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Mar 18, 2024 22:05
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lilljonas posted:Lol is it worse than the Warlord games samurai? The fit is ok, it's the proportion of legs to torsos that's the issue. A sprue of Ashigaru come with six torsos and nine sets of legs. It's super frustrating to have everything you need to make 12 more models, except for the torsos. Meanwhile, the Samurai cav come with 12 sets of legs but 24 torsos, for some reason. They're slightly smaller than the non-cav torsos so they only work with some models and not others. It's a bit of a head-scratcher.
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Mar 18, 2024 23:51
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Class Warcraft posted:The fit is ok, it's the proportion of legs to torsos that's the issue. A sprue of Ashigaru come with six torsos and nine sets of legs. It's super frustrating to have everything you need to make 12 more models, except for the torsos. That's weird. Maybe by just slightly extending the torsos (like a mm of green stuff or so) you could get out a few more ranks of ashigaru then?
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Mar 19, 2024 08:13
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Anyone played Triumph? Is it just DBA with a point system?
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Mar 23, 2024 17:12
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I played 2 games of Glory is Fleeting yesterday.  The first game I replayed the British mistake at Battle of Albuera when I left a brigade open on the flank with enemy cavalry next to them...and did not form square. For some reason I thought I would do that...and then...didn't. Wiped out a division of troops with the resulting failure cascade. My elite flanking division to the top right got slowed down to a crawl by a enemy cavalry division, and lacking cavalry myself, could never catch up to engage them. I ended up charging the enemy horse with my own foot infantry...which did not work.  The second game I did slightly better, I was able to march my elite 1813 British troops to be in a position to strike for the enemy line of communications. My cavalry charged and routed two enemy brigades...and then his last large one formed square and my horse sat around with nothing they could do about it. I could have stopped at that point and held off to get a draw with a win on points...but decided to go for it. Charging enemy heavy artillery with infantry turned out not to be the solution. Both games were technically a draw as neither army was defeated, but I lost both on points. More Mistakes Had Been Made and more Lessons Have Been Learnt.
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Mar 24, 2024 05:44
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Tiny tanks? Tiny tanks. I'm starting to refine my painting process for these, and gods knows how many Shermans I have to paint. Also tiny infantry is tiny.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:36
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iospace posted:Tiny tanks? Looks great! Getting little monochromatic tanks to look right is surprisingly hard.
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Mar 25, 2024 23:15
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Count Thrashula posted:I ran into it so much when I played Advanced Squad Leader. I'm not going to name him, but there's a guy who runs a pretty big ASL reseller and is known pretty well in the community, and I played in person with him a couple times because he lived near me. Is it the guy with the german-named website?
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Mar 28, 2024 03:20
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gently caress that guy. He had an incredible game collection and gaming table and stuff but super wasn't worth it to be around all that.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Is it the guy with the german-named website? Yup. Nicest guy in the world but big yikes.
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Mar 28, 2024 03:26
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Mar 28, 2024 12:56
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Last battle in the Totensonntag Pint-Sized Campaign for Chain of Command is done, and you can read all about it here: https://www.goonhammer.com/goonhammer-historicals-playing-a-chain-of-command-campaign-part-8-breakthrough/ Obligatory photo from the game: 
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Mar 29, 2024 03:14
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Just ordered the starter pack of Victrix 12mm WW2 models because it's 192 minis for $50. Now I just have to figure out what rules I want to play! I'm maybe leaning O-Group since I think battalion scale would be most interesting to me, and open me up for better combined arms stuff once I build out my collection more. Thoughts on O-Group? Is there a similar ruleset that does it better? Only thing is it's weird for Victrix to include M4A3s since I don't think the Brits got any leased to them? Nitpick though, since I can just run it as an M4A4 at such a small scale.
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Mar 29, 2024 04:45
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I haven't played O-Group yet, but I like the way it's structured. There are some good YouTube videos about it that show pretty well how it plays.
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Mar 29, 2024 15:45
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I found it very dry and the token clutter annoying, but I know I'm in the minority on that opinion.
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Mar 29, 2024 15:54
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My buddy just got infectiously excited about the new Warlord tanks game in 12mm, so I'm printing tanks and terrain this weekend. But that's what he's using his Victrix stuff for.
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Mar 29, 2024 16:14
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Count Thrashula posted:Just ordered the starter pack of Victrix 12mm WW2 models because it's 192 minis for $50. The victrix 12mm WW2 stuff rules.
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Mar 29, 2024 18:19
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Endman posted:Now this is actually something worth thinking about. I don't have much time for endless moralising about playing games, but there's absolutely something worth talking about when it comes to designing games. I mean, I think ultimately historical wargames feed into what people want to play. People want to play with Panthers, and Tigers, and "cool" tanks. People don't want to play a bunch of schmucks from the 711th Static Grenadier Division. Even if a system makes rules that show how poo poo the average German infantry unit is (and how the Wehrmacht, especially towards the end of the war, was like a sea of shattered units with a few sprinklings of cool tanks) ... a lot of people just don't want to play them because, lets be honest, if you wanted to paint a bunch of infantry wearing the same uniform, you'd pick up a Napoleonics army instead (cos 18th century armies have the best drip). And as others have said, just because the Nazis were bad people doesn't mean they weren't good at fighting (especially at the tactical level which wargames tend to gravitate towards), especially when wargames are designed to be "fair" with roughly equal forces on each side (whereas the Western Allies/Soviets were much better at the war-winning bit of fighting). Disclaimer: all my WW2/Flames of War armies are Wallies units tomdidiot fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Mar 29, 2024 22:59
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tomdidiot posted:Disclaimer: all my WW2/Flames of War armies are Wallies units but where are they, though
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Mar 30, 2024 08:13
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spectralent posted:but where are they, though 6th Armoured in Tunisia 7th Armoured in Normandy Guards Armoured in Holland 11th Armoured in the Rhineland Also have some infantry which I haven't painted yet but will likely end up being 56th Infantry in Italy, and another one will be the 3rd Division in Normandy. US: 3rd Armored in Normandy 6th Armored in Lorraine 9th Armored in the Rhineland EDIT: Derp Where's Wally joke. tomdidiot fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Mar 30, 2024 12:59
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Count Thrashula posted:Just ordered the starter pack of Victrix 12mm WW2 models because it's 192 minis for $50. The Victrix stuff is really really excellent. I am deep into it now setting up for O Group. It is probably my favorite WWII game now. I love how the fog of war and battle lines work. The campaigns (I have Normandy) are really really nice. The book is well laid out and the rules are some of the clearest they have produced. The game abstracts some stuff; you can attach heavy weapons teams to a platoon to give them some special rules, but each platoon has built in mortars/MG/bazooka that are already accounted for in their attacks. Tank combat is basically damaged or blown up. There are a lot of cool rules for stuff like mines, dozer tanks, bocage, flamethrowers, etc. I think if you are 100% interested in the differences between each mark of tank, it may not be enough for you. But if you want to play WWII with all the toys, it works well. I've finished a Large battalion of Americans (going to do another 2 companies so I can play a Battlegroup), a Large battalion of Germans (same plan for a Battlegroup) and am working my way thru a battalion of Brits. I have British Airborne and German Airborne on the way, and will get the US airborne when it comes out this year. The tanks and vehicles they make are really nice too. They are easily magnetized so the turrets can rotate and pop off, and they have great details.
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Mar 30, 2024 17:16
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tomdidiot posted:EDIT: Derp Where's Wally joke. I was worried  I'm back on my 3D printing bullshit and looking at a bunch of 15mm sengoku models i got in a kickstarter years ago. Is there anything decent for mass-battle japan stuff? Ideally something built for it that has some flavour - nothing against pike and shot but it's pretty generic.
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Mar 31, 2024 00:02
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spectralent posted:I was worried Not any great options I’m afraid. There’s downsides to all options I’ve checked. I’m thinking of doing a lasalle hack when I get around to painting up two samurai armies, if nothing better has come out at that point. Tenka fubu has a lot of right ideas though I haven’t played it (it’s a For King and Parliament hack): https://tenkafubu608971038.wordpress.com
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Mar 31, 2024 00:42
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Battle in the Age of War by Peter Pig is pretty dang good. I haven't played it but I've read through the rules a few times and really like what I see.
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Mar 31, 2024 01:08
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spectralent posted:I'm back on my 3D printing bullshit and looking at a bunch of 15mm sengoku models i got in a kickstarter years ago. Is there anything decent for mass-battle japan stuff? Ideally something built for it that has some flavour - nothing against pike and shot but it's pretty generic. What sculptor? I was looking for something different for my next project.
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Mar 31, 2024 01:44
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If it's Smol Miniatures their stuff is GREAT at 15mm and scales okay to 28mm
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Mar 31, 2024 01:45
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spectralent posted:I was worried If you mean rules, there are a couple I've heard are in development, but won't be available for another year or so.
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Mar 31, 2024 06:25
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Count Thrashula posted:Just ordered the starter pack of Victrix 12mm WW2 models because it's 192 minis for $50. I enjoyed O Group a lot the time I was able to demo it. It definitely has the feel of trying to manage multiple flashpoints across the map.
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Mar 31, 2024 15:51
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A five minute video from the 80s (?) showing how wargames figures designing used to be done, followed by a "How to Wargame" section with Ian Dickie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTgt7l4n0ck Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Apr 2, 2024 00:56
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man it's weirdly hard to find gripping beast lead spears in the US, I think badger games is the only place I can find that has them on their store and they're usually out of stock
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Apr 2, 2024 18:23
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tomdidiot posted:I mean, I think ultimately historical wargames feed into what people want to play. I am the complete opposite of this. I far prefer playing odd, hopeless, or irregular armies.
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Apr 3, 2024 21:16
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Count Thrashula posted:Battle in the Age of War by Peter Pig is pretty dang good. I haven't played it but I've read through the rules a few times and really like what I see. good game imo
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Apr 3, 2024 21:39
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Cessna posted:I am the complete opposite of this. I far prefer playing odd, hopeless, or irregular armies. Exactly! For WW2 games, the shonkier the vehicle the better, for me. It's all about pushing the lovely hand you've given yourself as far as you can - makes actually getting a win that much better!
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Apr 3, 2024 22:28
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Cessna posted:I am the complete opposite of this. I far prefer playing odd, hopeless, or irregular armies. This is how I ended up painting a platoon of cape town highlanders for north africa in chain of command. In kilts. It was just too odd to miss out on. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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Apr 3, 2024 23:20
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I ended up cancelling my Pendraken order after it took 6+ weeks for them to tell me 'you're still in the queue for casting'. I'm heading to Salute 2024 on Saturday, and I think my fantasy/sci-fi itch is being sufficiently scratched with Renegade Scout, WHFB 3e/4e, etc. and I'm considering my options for a small historicals project. My gut feeling was to go for the dark ages, specifically because while armies might be relatively samey internally, they are quite distinct from each other - the exact opposite of my Pike and Shotte armies. I'd put together this neat little NW-Europe centric flow chart of the major powers I'm considering:  The colours show the army region and the white annotations show the basis around which the army is built. The 3Pk-based army can be Pre-Feudal Scots or North Welsh or Pitcish, while a 3Ax based army could be Norse Irish or Welsh, etc. The idea being that with a limited number of figures I could end up with a variety of match-ups. The problem though, is that while I can have many match-ups I think each battle in that matchup is going to mostly end up the same tactically since the armies are both small and not all that tactically versatile. I make it about 8 combinations before you include the vikings - which artificially bumps it up to 15 or so because they fight everyone. That appears to be de rigeur for Dark Ages battles though - the armies are really single faceted in my area of interest. It got me thinking about other eras and whether the armies have variety internally (i.e. pike and shot) or externally (i.e. romans vs gauls). I guess Napoleonics are a bit of a half-half proposition - externally their armies have SOME variance, but not massively: you have the French with their attack columns, the Spanish with their dubious morale, the Austrians with their terrible command structure. Internally while there's some variety with the Russian grand batteries and cossacks, or British two-rank line it's not quite as significant as all-knights vs all-spears. Maybe that's why it endures as a period for wargaming? It's certainly re-ignited my interest for the Napoleonic period over the SYW (where the detail is almost completely in the uniforms, rather than composition or tactics as far as I can tell).
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I've been tempted by the Bauda Norse Irish for years, but I never get around to actually pulling the trigger on them. Plus I have no idea if anyone at HATE plays DBA anyways  May see you at Salute. I will be the one who looks like a goon.
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