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YF19pilot posted:Just got Open Fire myself, and I'm a little disappointed in the plastic tanks. Now, at this point I've only got the two Fireflies put together, but they seem to have worse fitting and gap issues than my PSC Shermans. How are they scale-wise in comparison to the PSC tanks? I'm planning on a 11th armoured division army (from the website), and I was planning on using PSC tanks to fill out the numbers. Would you they be good in the same platoon? If not, the same army?
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2012 16:20 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 14:30 |
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Numlock posted:The Battlefront plastic Shermans are about the same width as the PSC ones but much longer. Slightly longer than the Battlefront Resin Shermans even. Right. So keep the BF and PSC shermans in different platoons. Not a problem.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2012 19:29 |
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YF19pilot posted:My (new) LGS is hosting a FoW Tanksgiving event, 2012 points. Since I don't have a Late War armor company, now is a great time for me to expand or try a new army since I'll probably have to buy a ton of stuff anyways. Air power is free, which I hope scares people away from the Konigstiger douche-canoe list, but probably won't. For a comedy option, The Looted Tank Company from Earth & Steel may be for you. Watch the enemy quake in fear before your Hotchkiss' might! Will this event involve a Tank Aces campaign, by any chance?
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2012 09:09 |
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moths posted:Is that... the proper green for Ranger pants after 1943? Well, we have the sub title for the next iteration of the Historical thread now. In other news, the next release for Flames of War, bookwise, is apparently going to be a Market Garden compilation. There's going to be a preview in the next issue of WGI. I might give that a look.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2012 17:29 |
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YF19pilot posted:I thought Market Garden was pretty much a given since early summer. The speculation now lies in what BF will do after that. Well I can't for the life of me remember *where* I read it, but apparently the Market Garden book will also feature stuff on the Battle of the Scheldt. Haven't they hinted they're going to be doing some stuff with Early-War and/or the eastern front? Looking at what they said on the website when released the Poland Invaded PDF: Battlefront posted:However, more Early-war books are in the pipeline, and with the next couple of books the focus moves east. We thought we’d give you a sneak peek at what we have in store for you next year. Interesting stuff. Although I'd like for them to do a Rhine Crossing book at some point. Especially if it means I can finally field an Armoured company using Comets. And I don't know about you, but a Korean War expansion might be worth considering. Honestly, why they went for Vietnam first is a mystery to me. You've got a much richer selection of nations and forces to choose from ,and it's still roughly on the pattern of WWII-style engagements anyhow.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2012 14:50 |
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YF19pilot posted:I thought I heard rumors of Eastern Front, but I was under the impression they were going to focus on ending the war before going back to something else. But I'm happy to hear Early War again. It means I can dust off my Italians. Well, looking at /tg/, apparently there's plans for a Winter War and Barbarossa book next year. Of course, this comes from someone who apparently rides the bus with one of the Battlefront bigwigs, so take it with a truckload of salt. I think your idea of arab-Israeli might be viable (although it might open up a ), but I'd suggest they make Korea first, and have the Suez Crisis as an expansion since they take place about the same time (Since as I understand it there wasn't the same leaps in technology there were between war periods in WWII). Numlock posted:Looking forward to Market Garden as I'm tired of all the yank players getting all these cool toys and would like updated lists for V3. Well, you can get a couple of 3rd ed market garden lists off the official website for the British- Grenadier Guards and 11th armoured division. A Glider Rifle Company for the yanks, too. Although they may well be folded into the book proper. Interestingly enough, looking at the Easy company article they just added, they're all in summer uniform. I suppose that makes it feasible to use them as a Market Garden force (or pushing into Germany after Bastogne), were you so inclined, or even Normandy if you painted them in the right uniform.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2012 13:52 |
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Numlock posted:Well the WWPD guys visited Battlefront and apparently were allowed to photo some T-54's (and other soviet vehicles) and what appear to be Brits/Commonwealth troopers with FAL rifles. What, you mean these? It's probably ANZAC and NVA stuff for Vietnam. Which is good that they're adding more nations, but dammit Korea has way more options. In othe news, we know what the upcoming Market Garden books are called, now. Arquinsiel posted:Part of why the 101st got such an impressive rep for Bastogne is that they spent the first few days of the fighting wearing summer gear since they were literally stuffed on trucks and driven into the fighting without any preptime. The scene in Band of Brothers where they're hustling the retreating GIs for ammo actually happened - the idea of Germany having the forces to mount any sort of offensive at the time was so out there that it just threw SHAEF right out of whack and they scrambled to throw units at it. Now that you mention it, I remember that now. I feel like an idiot for forgetting, considering I watched the series and read the book a few months ago. I guess I fixated on the fact they only had rifles. still, my earlier point stands.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2012 09:06 |
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Arquinsiel posted:It's nice to see that they've consolidated the two Market Garden books into.... hey did roughly the same thing with the D-Day books (dividing them into axis and Allied) Of course, looking at the subtitles on the cover, I think it's clear that the rumours that it's going to cover the Battle of the Scheldt as well are well-founded.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2012 17:30 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:Just as easy as 40k. There's nothing stopping people from using allies, or just having an all-out brawl. In fact, they even released their apocalypse equivalent's rules on their website for free, if you want to do big games.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 19:30 |
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YF19pilot posted:Every thing is "valid" unless replaced. As far as I understand it, North Africa and East Front are both the most current MW books (and they're V2). Cassino is V2, LW, and may be replaced by an Italian compilation later this year. I think the Italy compilation also will replace Dogs & Devils, which is even older.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2013 13:17 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:Yeah I just read the article in November's WI about the revised edition of Red Bear, and nowhere in there does it mention a published list of changes for those of us with the current edition. They've stated elsewhere they'll release a .pdf for all the people who already have the book. The problem with Soviets near as I can tell is that that they don't have any 'specialist' units. It's just Tank Battalion, Guards Tank Battalion, etc. etc. whereas the other major nations get more specific stuff (like say the Brits get 7th, 11th & Guards armoured division) that all gets its own special rules. Hell, they did a massive .pdf for every US infantry division in Normandy. Some of the soviet sub-units probably don't fit in 'trained rating with hen & chicks), but they just don't have any representation. I'm thinking some of the lend-lease units in particular. But no it's monolithic generic hordes of Russians. Hopefully, Desperate Measures will finally break the mold.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2013 20:02 |
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I think that Tanks! might be the gateway drug for Flames of War at my LGS, too. They've stated they're getting OP kits and such. Hopefully I can finally use my Open Fire tanks I've had gathering dust. Even if they're the first run plastics that are going to be a nightmare to assemble. I'm wondering if investing in a copy of Blood, Guts & Glory to get Tank Aces as the next step. And Nachtjager so I can UNLEASH THE COMETS.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 14:31 |
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Oh god, I've been going trough the free army lists on the FoW website and I'm already getting torn between the options. I'm thinking of using the Open Fire set as the core of a 11th armoured tank squadron (I actually bought Market Garden years back for that reason) & a Hungarian infantry division, but I also kind of want to make a Czech armoured squadron, and a Nachtjager Comet squadron, and maybe a 29th infantry division... Still, the fact nobody else present plays FoW is keeping me on the straight and narrow for now.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2016 10:04 |
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Arquinsiel posted:You'd think that, but then you end up wondering if Zvezda are ever going to make French tanks and somehow you're working out what it'd cost you to do a late war Beutepanzer list using as many pre-war craptanks as you can cram in all of a sudden. Oh God, Zvezda do Ferdinands, and Battlefront do a free Ferdinand-based list. I'm thinking of investing in a copy of Blood, Guts & Glory to lure in the Tanks crowd - there's still some free lists[ that would be compatible with the Tanks! range, as long as people are willing to play as French/Czechs/Poles for the US & Brit ranges (or just have 75mm Shermans for an All-American list), which amusingly enough makes the French the most elite of those options . Ze Germans of course have Panzers to the Meuse as well as a few other options. The Russians are unfortunately out of luck, though. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jul 9, 2016 |
# ¿ Jul 9, 2016 20:39 |
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Frobbe posted:Help I am pricing out getting the bare minimum for a British army in FoW so the tanks from Open Fire! Don't feel lonely I've been there. What list are you considering? Guards? 11th Armoured? They did have a free briefing for 11th armoured (which is what got me onto them as a list) on the website, but they took it down on account of the fact it's in Market Garden now. But may I suggest you look into the Plastic Soldier company, since they do cheaper but still very good quality plastics for most of what you'd need for a British list. Just keep PSC & Battlefront shermans separate due to minor scale differences. I think the only thing stopping me pulling the trigger has been the fact there's no local FoW scene where I live (and the nightmare that is trying to assemble early Open Fire shermans). I'm actually debating not making them British at all, but instead putting the paratroopers to one side for now and making a list, possibly even a recon one.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 09:40 |
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Is it me or is the Zvezda Sherman an Easy Eight and not a M4E2? Because if it is,
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 17:00 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Hate to break your heart, but it is in fact a late-model M4A2 and not an E8. Still not a bad choice for portraying standard M4A3 76 tanks, but they don't have the trademark HVSS suspension that marks them as E8s. Darn, I was thrown off by the muzzle brake. Someone will make 15mm Easy Eights eventually, right?
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 18:36 |
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Some more information snippets about bolt action 2.0 Are they getting rid of the historically inaccurate 'Ronson' special rule for Sherman tanks? Because as a tank nerd, that was a deal breaker. Mind you I have got onboard with Battlefront's Tanks! so I'm in no position to judge. I just want to use the Flames of War starter I've had sat around for a while, OK? Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jul 29, 2016 |
# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 14:23 |
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spectralent posted:I think FoW might be the only WW2 game I've tried that didn't intimate that shermans were supernaturally flammable, honestly. Even CoC does. Yeah, I think particualry denoting vehicles that took measures to prevent getting brewed up is a much better perspective. I mean Battlefront still make mistakes (they seem to be going way too far into digital only - I mean, I'd love to grab Nachtjager book, but instead like half the lists for both Axis & Allies aren't in the book!), and I hate that the blurb for the Panther card in Tanks! decribes it as 'the best medium tank of WWII', but on the other hand they've put the Open Fire rules & Forces booklet online for free (plus all those other army lists you can get for free) so I can hopefully get some Tanks! players into Flames of War that way. Plus it manes I can build a Comet company without having to buy any books! (I...may have already purchased enough Comets to make a company). I'm worried I'm going to wind up assembling the starter Shermans (the original 2012 'we're still figuring out plastic minis' starter Shermans) and then build a second company of Canadians and wind up buying a whole second company's worth of the new Shermans (because god dammit they need to have the Correct Divisional Markings!) Oh and maybe build a US armoured company since one of the US Armoured Divisions mustered up for D-Day like 20 minutes' drive from where I live. God help me, I'm a tankaholic.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 17:59 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:Paging Ensign Expendable No don't, or I'll be grabbing a copy of Berlin or Desperate Measures and start building a Hero Soviet Tanks list. At least the Plastic Soldier Company means I can some stuff for cheaper - I already have a trio of Zvezda Dingos for recon duty, and I'll probably buy a pack of PSC 25pndrs for artillery support. Edit: Ensign Expendable posted:One of us! One of us! Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jul 29, 2016 |
# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 18:36 |
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spectralent posted:Hero lists, in order: Thanks for this breakdown. Are there any other 'pitfall' lists I should avoid (for Soviets or FoW in general?) Kind of sad the Soviets are so screwed, though. I'm thinking of dropping a link to this page on my club's facebook group after Tanks! gets established to see if I get any bites. From discussion with the guy at the store who's been pushing for Tanks!, I think he might have already bought enough tanks for a German armoured company. Also: the Forces book lets you have both Comets (albeit CT ones) and Shermans and a platoon of US Paras all in one list. Not historically accurate I know, but it lets me use all of my models I think For whatever complaints you can make about Battlefront, Battlefront they do have a surprisingly wide range of lists you can still download for absolutely free (even if they've apparently half-assedly tried to hide it from their website - they've literally removed it from the dropdown list in the hobby section where it used to be. Hell, there's a few they apparently put into Forces of War for money you can still download, because they still have the free download pages up or they took down the link but the file's still on the site Also I have assembled a Pershing this evening. Quick question: does anyone know what exactly the twin tubes mounted on top of the Super Pershing are? Since you can't unforunately have the option to I was thinking of sticking them on the Pershing as a way to mark it out from others I build as the first in line. Would there be any reason to mount it on a Pershing?
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 23:13 |
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spectralent posted:Generally talking late-war since your options for EW and MW are "do you want medium or heavy tanks, or infantry" (in early war you can even get some cavalry!) spectralent posted:Which forces book is this? The one with V3 doesn't include comets... spectralent posted:Also, Comets and Shermans would have totally been in the company of US Paras; the british crossing of the rhine would've put the 17th airborne in contact with the 11th armoured division, and the independent armoured brigades brought back sherman DDs for the river crossings. spectralent posted:I was going to suggest a smoke launcher, but you're not looking at the super-pershing's gun-shock-absorber-thing are you?
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2016 08:37 |
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spectralent posted:Might be an idea, but AA MGs are the kind of thing you can see if you can squeeze into lists; I'd usually make a list then look at if I have a few points for AA MGs left over. Putting them on the firefly might be a good idea if you expect it to shoot infantry a lot, but the firefly's usually hanging back. If you have no other source of AA, AA MGs are definitely a good idea. spectralent posted:Ah, huh! Okay, neat. spectralent posted:
Yep, that's the thingie.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2016 11:26 |
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goodness posted:What are some good blogs to see pictures of armies, preferably 15mm and under (would take scifi/fantasy recommendations as well). Brainstorming ideas for a purchase and I need some inspiration. I think Breakthrough Assault and What Would Patton Do are two good ones for 15mm WWII.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 23:43 |
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Hmm...my LGS is putting out an offer for a free box of infantry if you pre-order a copy of the Bolt Action 2 rulebook. I'm kind of tempted because it's actually seeing play here, but dammit they gave Shermans an 'easily catches fire' rule! This will not stand!
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 17:51 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:They have the dumb commissar rules, too. I just house rule that poo poo out, but I don't have an LGS. Oh for gently caress's sake.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 19:04 |
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It's just...are there any WWII minis games that aren't borrowing from the Big Book of Wehraboo Cliches?
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 19:11 |
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If you're gonna have any tanks more prone to bursting into flames, the Panther should drat well be it. Edit: been listening to a podcast interviewing one of the FoW devs, and apparently they use internet forums when it comes to researching. God loving dammit. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Aug 11, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 20:01 |
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Ilor posted:FWIW, there's a huge discussion going on in the CoC forums right now about the merits of the "Ronson" tag as it applies to various tanks. Apparently it had much to do with the dry s wet storage ammo bins, and I know I've seen entries in the Consolidated Arsenal lists where only Shermans with dry storage get the Ronson tag. Well tell them if the Sherman gets it, the Panther should too, because it had giant loving ammo ranks in the (paper thin) sides and gasoline tended to pool on the engine deck. The 'Ronson' nickname was bullshit invented by Belton Cooper/Belton Cooper's ghostwriter. The only time Ronson used the 'lights every time' slogan before the war was in one print advert from the early 20s. There's no proof Shermans caught fire more than any other tank - except maybe that Sherman crews survived to bitch about the fires later, while their counterparts burned to death in the tanks they couldn't escape in time. I am angry. Angry about tanks.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 21:31 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:I was at the War Museum in Ottawa and hears a guy tell his son about how easily the Sherman burned. The plaque on the M4A3E8 also has the dumb Ronson bullshit on it. spectralent posted:I was at the tank museum in Bovington and got told Ronsons stuff by the tour guide there. He also said the T-34 needed a hammer to change gear and was really thinly armoured and mass produced and overwhelmed the Germans with force of numbers. One the one hand: it's a major bummer that they're parcelling out incorrect information like that. On the other: that does give me an idea for a career move...then again they'd probably never hire me anyway. Anyway, I have started to paint my Flames of War tanks! I'll be sure to take pics once the whole gang are together. Although they'll probably belong in the unspiration thread. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Aug 15, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 00:34 |
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So I won my LGS' Tanks! tournament! Man, the mission is pretty drat biased against the attacker, though - it usually takes 3 turns to get anywhere near the objective (and you have to clear out any enemy tanks to even score the necessary victory points). I think I only won by dint of picking a list of 3 Comets so I could make an extra move a turn. Plus they proved solid enough on defence to survive more or less unscathed (I only lost 2 tanks over 4 games, and that was in the last 2 games). I chose as a prize a free IS-2 and I bought a SU-100 to help defend the glorious workers' revolution. I'm savouring this feeling of victory while it lasts, I'm sure once other more competent people figure out the meta I'm screwed, but I actually won something! Also I met some nice old dudes playing Bolt Action. I think I'm probably going to get into that (my quixotic obsession with building Flames of War armies aside) with 2nd edn, even if they still have that 'ronson' nonsense - they do at least usually have the option to remove that rule as an upgrade, from the flipthroughs of the books I've had. Not sure whether to pick US or Brits as the free infantry box, though. I'd be interested to hear a breakdown of the various pros & cons of each.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 23:51 |
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Welp, it looks like I'm buying the Bulge compilation for Flames too. Hopefully I can avoid the urge to buy a third (!) company of British Shermans to paint in winter camo, though. I've manged to talk myself off the ledge of building a Czech Cromwell company and instead just making a platoon for a Parachute Company - but now I'm undergoing decal anxiety to find ones that will actually fit on the tanks in question (the Dom's Decals ones seems like they might actually be a bit big for Cromwells) - plus figuring out what the correct unit markings would be for a seaborne Airborne Armoured Reconnaissance Platoon are. Im also considering a Black Panther armoured company (plus that one I was already considering)... I really need to stop chasing after armies for a game nobody around me plays.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 17:51 |
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spectralent posted:What's the source on the 761st? A couple of sites have gotten a look at preview copies. I think WWPD posted scans of the contents pages of both books. I'm probably going to into BA, but I can't decide whether to go Brits or US for my free infantry. After the wide selection of units in FoW, though, getting used to the more generic options in BA is a bit of a downer. Going from being able to select specific units to 'guys who were roughly in region X in year Y' takes some getting used to. My dreams of a Devil's Brigade force are no more.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 13:45 |
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lilljonas posted:Funny, because I think the exact opposite. If a game is open for generic list, you can make exactly the force you want. For example, I made a platoon from the 4th Gebirgsjäger division for our CoC campaign, since I could simply check the OoB for them, and then make a force that roughly represented it. I'm not sure they really map to any of the infantry options. Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see 'oh these guys count as Rangers' or whatever as kind of lazy, I guess. I dunno, maybe I've been spoiled by FoW but having to go do homework if I want to build a list around a specific unit that falls between two stools isn't very appealing.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 15:42 |
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So, somebody was able to come in 3rd at a Gencon Flames of War tourney with a Comet company. I choose to see this as a good omen. Also my LGS had a kind of open day this Saturday, and it turns out that there's a guy who used to play that still has his army and another guy who has an Open Fire starter around, so I might actually have some opponents to play! Now I just need to finish an actual army... I figured out what to do with my Open Fire Germans, I'm going to use one of the official free lists on the Flames website and make them Hungarians instead. I'm hopefully holding off on starting any more than the ones I already have in the pipeline (11th Armoured Shermans, 11th Armoured Comets, Canadian Armoured Recce, Canadian/British Paratroopers and Hungarian Infantry). Oh and a Kampfgruffe Kerscher comedy list, since the Zvezda King Tiger means I get the tanks for the list for dirt cheap between PSC & Zvezda. Are any of those particular garbage to be avoided? Aside from the Comets, I already bought those. Also I think I might be going American for Bolt Action, if only because I could reuse the paints for my FoW starter US paras for the BA starter paratroopers. In non-WWII news, since I got the Osprey Wargames bundle, I'm kind of wondering what some nice cheap Pirates/Samurai/Knights might be worth sourcing. I know Wargames Factory made some decent Samurai, are there good sources for the other two?
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2016 23:11 |
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spectralent posted:Kerscher is kind of a joke list, but you know that. It works, sometimes, but it has no arty and no recce and Tiger Is are kind of useless by late war. You're really hoping for a nice poorly-supported tank list so you can blow everything up with your great guns. ALL OF THEM. (currently focusing on the two 11th Armoured lists & probably Hungarians. Using Stugs for the time being, since I've not been able to source plastic assault pancakes (plus I already had them from Open Fire - and maybe Kerscher, because that wouldn't take long to set up - literally one PSC box set and a Zvezda Tiger & King Tiger and you're pretty much done). I'm kind of considering making a Canadian Rifle company and using the CAR as support platoons instead of yet another Tank Company, since I've been told that is good synergy.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2016 23:38 |
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Oh for god's sake after all that effort putting my Comet company together, Battlefront put out a compilation box. Typical! Oh well, at least the Bulge compilations are coming out soon. And I suppose if I'm buying into BA at the same time I couldn't really justify buying two big boxes of WWII minis.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 10:50 |
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spectralent posted:It is, to be fair, a bad box Yeah, but if I'm going to be building a garbage Comet army anyway... But in other news, I've just realised an upside to building Canadian and Hungarian infantry - I can probably use those miniatures (with the exception of stuff like Panzerfausts and other LW kit) as a nucleus for Mid-War armies too - specifically a Dieppe Rifle company and a Corps Bicycle Company.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2016 11:13 |
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moths posted:I vaguely remember the Warlord box coming with metal heads that deliberately resembled famous Hollywood war movie actors. Maybe that was the Rangers box. Yeah, I believe its the Rangers box (I was looking at one in my LGS), I know there was a Tom Hanks one on the back of the box. I wonder if the shift in proportions is because WGF now works for/with Warlord, so perhaps they're actually the one making those minis. My FOW 11th armoured Company is actually rolling along quite nicely (managed to assemble more-or-less all of the tanks - which is no mean feat with the 2012-era plastics - and I'm in the stage of adding stowage), and I have a question. Does anyone have records of tankers using salvaged enemy track links to supplement their own armour? I've seen photographs of tanks with spare tracks as armour, but did anyone ever take some off enemy tanks to supplement their armour? I have accidentally stuck some StuG track links to the front of a Firefly. I figure maybe I could also use up some spare Panther track links I have lying around if there's actually historical precedent for that sort of thing. Or should I repeat to myself it's just a game and I should really just relax? Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 14:30 |
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spectralent posted:Totally happened! I kind of wish I'd thought about it a little more, because I stuck on some applique armour from a US Sherman sprue, and I have a set of Panther side skirts I could have cut up instead. I've been able to use it as extra armour on the front of one or two of my other Shermans, though. And it turns out the front of a Panther track guard fits almost perfectly onto the side of a Firefly turret as applique armour. I've also used a Cromwell exhaust scoop and stowage bin that my tankies Feels good to actually be finally getting this thing in motion, I've kind of been procrastinating in it for ages. I'll probably wind up oathing the finished stuff just to get them all painted.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 13:50 |