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Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Air Julio posted:

I really like the album on first listen. They just have an enjoyable sound that just makes me feel good. Lies and Eyes, Toska, and Heaven is a Ghost Town are early favorites. Just now listening to Cold Company and really digging this, too. Not their best work, but certainly not bad at all. Like I said, their overall sound is enjoyable, even if I don't love certain tracks. Can't wait to have an actual copy of this and listen over good speakers.


I'm enjoying the hell out of it, on a third listen now. Definitely an improvement over Omni which was really hit or miss.

I think they should have opened the album with Lies and Eyes rather than Steel and Blood though, that's just me though.

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tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005

Now that I've heard the album a good 10 or 20 times now, I can definitively say this is better than Omni. The only clunker, really, is Heaven is a ghost town which I initially liked. Not to say it's a bad song even, just kinda slow and repetitive. Cold Company is absolutely loving amazing and by far the best song on the album with diamond lightning a close second. Whoever said earlier that it sounded like something off Planet of Ice is spot-on. There's super-impressive guitar work all over this album. Now I'm totally pumped to see which songs they play off the new album when I see them next month. Any goons going to the Boston show?

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


I listened to it once yesterday, have listened to it multiple times today. I was originally really disappointed, but I relistened and am really impressed by the amount of nuance all over the place.

Lies and Eyes is a fantastic song. First four songs are wonderful in a row. Its just great work. And after having seen them a couple of times now, there are a ton of songs on this album that are going to sound great live (see earlier post).

e: Won't be in Boston, but I'm anglin' at heading to Hartford since its not a ridiculous drive and its on a Saturday rather than trying to haul rear end to Pittsburgh after class on a Friday.

SquirrelyPSU fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Aug 30, 2012

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
FERO LUX are my heroes. I'm proud of them, they opened for Circa Survive in Orlando the other day! They put on some of the best performances I've seen and the music is very "smart" but most importantly its super loving passionate. I hope they get a lot bigger.

http://fero-lux.bandcamp.com/

Lord of Sword
Dec 12, 2006

We live thinking we will never die.
We die thinking we had never lived.
Cut it out.
Tubelord have announced they're breaking up, after one last show. Almost everyone hated their 2nd album but their first and the EPs are some of the best math-rock albums ever made. I chose to go and see another band instead of them earlier in the year, now they're another of my favourite bands I'll never get to see live :(

Kevar
Jan 1, 2005
gimmar

the Bunt posted:

FERO LUX are my heroes. I'm proud of them, they opened for Circa Survive in Orlando the other day! They put on some of the best performances I've seen and the music is very "smart" but most importantly its super loving passionate. I hope they get a lot bigger.

http://fero-lux.bandcamp.com/

I would've lost my poo poo over this like 8 years ago. Pretty good though. They seem to avoid the cliches that flooded this type of music back in the day, which is cool. I kept waiting for a JUN JUN WHEE breakdown to ruin everything.

d0grent
Dec 5, 2004

the Bunt posted:

FERO LUX are my heroes. I'm proud of them, they opened for Circa Survive in Orlando the other day! They put on some of the best performances I've seen and the music is very "smart" but most importantly its super loving passionate. I hope they get a lot bigger.

http://fero-lux.bandcamp.com/

This was giving me some serious Botch vibes and that is a very good thing.

DJ Burette
Jan 6, 2010

Lord of Sword posted:

Tubelord have announced they're breaking up, after one last show. Almost everyone hated their 2nd album but their first and the EPs are some of the best math-rock albums ever made. I chose to go and see another band instead of them earlier in the year, now they're another of my favourite bands I'll never get to see live :(

They're still playing 2 more shows before they go, I'm looking hard at going to Kingston just for the evening so I can see them before they're gone. As a second album Romance really grew on me the more I listened to it, now I actually like it almost as much as their first, albeit in a completely different way.

In good news though This Town Needs Guns new album is out so soon, I'm not sold on their new singer yet but I'm still massively looking forwards to it. The bits they've played at their shows have been pretty drat good.

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010
Oh man, this thread is still a thing. Back when I posted on page two I had only the vaguest idea what math-rock was and the only band I knew fitting the style was MTB. Now it's my favorite genre ever and I have delved deep enough to have new things to bring in to this thread. Some stuff I have especially been digging lately:

I was listening to some LITE, an excellent recommendation I presume I got from this thread, and found a related band called Mouse On The Keys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoetd0sD6Y

These guys aren't actually all that similar to LITE, aside from having an insane drummer. They are another Japanese band that reminds me a lot of Té and Toe and other bands which kind of straddle the border between post-rock and math-rock, if their style was combined with fusion. The band consists of an insane drummer and two keyboardists who play fast, arpeggiated piano lines to create a very math-rock like style with guest musicians improvising trumpet or sax parts over. Very cool stuff.

Between these guys and Lye By Mistake, a band posted in this thread who combine mathcore and fusion, I was eager to find more music that fit this general style. Jizue are another similar Japanese band who achieve a very similar style to Mouse On The Keys and even a bit more like LITE at times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfwr94u8RQk

There is a solid western band that fits the bill as well in Father Figure. These guys aren't quite as jazzy as the others, having some traditionally proggy elements and sound as well as very linear song structure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBMSuuUwV0s

Aside from things in this vein, Tuna are a metal influenced, guitar driven outfit with a great sound that incorporates electronics very well.
http://tuna.bandcamp.com/

Finally, I have been loving the 2012 release by Pile, a band introduced to me by this thread. Might not classify them as math-rock as soon as very 90's inspired, Dinosaur Jr. sounding indie rock tinted with post-hardcore, but some time signature screwery and dissonance are certainly involved to the extent where they could fit in here.
http://pile.bandcamp.com/

P.S. I'm a bit late on Zach Hill's Face Tat, but if you haven't listened to that you should, my favorite math rock album to date. I hope more people come here with new stuff to post or even to discuss specific bands or the style in general, it sucks to see this thread so dead.

wlokos
Nov 12, 2007

...

Pogobubba posted:

Finally, I have been loving the 2012 release by Pile, a band introduced to me by this thread. Might not classify them as math-rock as soon as very 90's inspired, Dinosaur Jr. sounding indie rock tinted with post-hardcore, but some time signature screwery and dissonance are certainly involved to the extent where they could fit in here.
http://pile.bandcamp.com/

I'll second this. These guys are from Boston and I love everything I've heard by them. It's basically indie grunge.

Biscuit!
Jul 20, 2007
Yowie put out a new album earlier this year and it is pretty amazing. If you haven't heard them before they play a very chaotic and noisy sort of controlled chaos. I have never heard anything like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyHrjoip39M

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yowie/351414864229?fref=ts

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

Biscuit! posted:

Yowie put out a new album earlier this year and it is pretty amazing. If you haven't heard them before they play a very chaotic and noisy sort of controlled chaos. I have never heard anything like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyHrjoip39M

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yowie/351414864229?fref=ts

This is really cool, if a little disorienting. Definitely feels a bit off kilter and out of synch, even compared to other math rock. Kind of reminds me of Ahleuchatistas or Upsilon Acrux in that the parts carried by different instruments seem pretty incongruous at times, not really coming together to form an obvious or coherent melody.

WITNESS THE POWER!
Jun 13, 2009

Why don't you go get a glass of orange juice and spill it all over yourself like a big dumb baby

Pogobubba posted:

I was listening to some LITE, an excellent recommendation I presume I got from this thread, and found a related band called Mouse On The Keys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoetd0sD6Y

These guys aren't actually all that similar to LITE, aside from having an insane drummer. They are another Japanese band that reminds me a lot of Té and Toe and other bands which kind of straddle the border between post-rock and math-rock, if their style was combined with fusion. The band consists of an insane drummer and two keyboardists who play fast, arpeggiated piano lines to create a very math-rock like style with guest musicians improvising trumpet or sax parts over. Very cool stuff.

Between these guys and Lye By Mistake, a band posted in this thread who combine mathcore and fusion, I was eager to find more music that fit this general style. Jizue are another similar Japanese band who achieve a very similar style to Mouse On The Keys and even a bit more like LITE at times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfwr94u8RQk


LITE, toe, and te are really good bands, and Mouse on the Keys is always absolutely amazing, definitely one of my all-time favorite instrumental groups. I've never heard of this Jizue band before though, thanks for sharing! They almost sound like if one of the pianists in Mouse on the Keys decided to change instruments and start playing guitar. Really beautiful stuff, I like it a lot.

acephalousuniverse
Nov 4, 2012

Biscuit! posted:

Yowie put out a new album earlier this year and it is pretty amazing. If you haven't heard them before they play a very chaotic and noisy sort of controlled chaos. I have never heard anything like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyHrjoip39M

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yowie/351414864229?fref=ts

Oh awesome! This band is so insane. I loved their first album. That youtube song is actually way more coherent than I remember their previous stuff which basically just sounded like free improv (but was actually tightly composed etc.).

For something pretty absurd along these lines (composed music that sounds improvised) and not really "rock" anymore, you can check out Rich Woodson's Ellipsis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeA8xkfrcos

McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...

Biscuit! posted:

Yowie put out a new album earlier this year and it is pretty amazing. If you haven't heard them before they play a very chaotic and noisy sort of controlled chaos. I have never heard anything like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyHrjoip39M

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yowie/351414864229?fref=ts

This is pretty interesting. I love the album art; it goes nicely with the feel of the track.

Sauska
Sep 12, 2012

Biscuit! posted:

Yowie put out a new album earlier this year and it is pretty amazing. If you haven't heard them before they play a very chaotic and noisy sort of controlled chaos. I have never heard anything like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyHrjoip39M

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yowie/351414864229?fref=ts

also personnel change from the first album came way of a guitarist from Grand Ulena, and it shows. So uh check them out. Somewhat similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHQgqwMxCt4

Biscuit!
Jul 20, 2007

Sauska posted:

also personnel change from the first album came way of a guitarist from Grand Ulena, and it shows. So uh check them out. Somewhat similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHQgqwMxCt4

Wow thanks for that. I just downloaded their album and read that the drummer died kinda recently and then read a news story about his life while I was listening to it and learned a lot of interesting stuff that I didn't really need to know. I guess that's what the internet is for. Gateway to Dignity is a really good listen so far.

Pork Lift
Oct 9, 2007

Winner of the 2012
:dong: Highway Traffic :dong:
Prediction Razzies

So I've been listening to a lot Tangled Hair recently, and am also retroactively loving their former band, Colour.

Does anyone have any recommendations for similar bands? I'm not particularly well informed about math stuff.

DJ Burette
Jan 6, 2010
Colour are pretty much pinnacle math pop so you have good taste.

Try listening to some This Town Needs Gunshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhPljk5EZ0Q who are pretty drat good and happen to have a new album just out. Pretty much anything on their Animals album is good, especially Chinchilla.
You might also like Tubelord who have sadly just broken up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWgPtPy7IYE.

Some other good bands you might like are:

Invalids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2wcZsxM-d0
Look Mexico https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bgLGtlrBaA
Bear Cavalry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npuxHHE2sWA
Lions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEBBXPkerqM
Pela https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6HHvk4zElc , who are also sadly de-funked but went on to form
We Are Augustines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDVo57p8EnI

If you like any of these I can probably think up a few more recommendations.

Pork Lift
Oct 9, 2007

Winner of the 2012
:dong: Highway Traffic :dong:
Prediction Razzies

Wow, thanks! You've given me a lot to look through here but on first listen I'm immediately well on board with Tubelord (I only seem to get into bands as they break up) and Bear Cavalry. I'm currently about to check out This Town Needs Guns properly.

smell the witch
Jun 10, 2011
A very cool band from my native Santiago de Chile is Ronaldo, a mellow math rocky thing with trumpets. Their album is up for free on their bandcamp.
And since someone mentioned Jizue and Toe I figured I should also mention Sgt., a Japanese band that blends mathrock/postrock/jazz/whatever + a violin and occasional hip-hop. Here's a good song to start on.
Also Fridge, Four Tet's old band, might belong here, bit more on the post-rock side but with the occasional forays into odd time signatures and chromatic guitar lines.
Same thing with El Ten Eleven, a two piece that works around looping riffs and layering, like this.
Oh, and Dysrhythmia is also amazing, featuring a guitar hero of mine, Keith Hufnagel, who's currently playing with Gorguts. This is a great song of theirs, unfortunately I couldn't find a better, non-live version of it.
Don't know if anyone's interested in the more screamy stuff but since someone mentioned Rolo Tomassi I'll at least recommend Down I Go, a British band that combined the guitar groove of Coalesce with the Pattonesque-ish vocals and fantastic hooks.

Apologies if any of these have been posted already.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

You wanna save this place, right? And I want to destroy it. Brick by hypocritical brick.

smell the witch posted:

And since someone mentioned Jizue and Toe I figured I should also mention Sgt., a Japanese band that blends mathrock/postrock/jazz/whatever + a violin and occasional hip-hop. Here's a good song to start on.

This is one of the best things I have ever heard. Seriously.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
Tera Melos is turning into a band that isn't quite like Tera Melos, but I still find myself interested in this direction they have taken.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tropic-lame-by-tera-melos-free-mp3-20130117

Check out the first song on their new album X'ed Out.

-Atom- fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jan 17, 2013

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I...uhh...I don't think I like that too much :(

I'd definitely have to hear more before making a judgment call on the album as a whole, though.

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005

DJ Burette posted:



Try listening to some This Town Needs Guns


TTNG is loving fantastic. They were the first math-rocky band to really hook me a couple years ago. The new album is really good, and it is streaming on soundcloud currently. https://soundcloud.com/sargent-house/sets/ttng-13-0-0-0-0

Anyone listen to Rooftops? A buddy has played a few tracks for me and they seem like they would fit in here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp60LTGerNQ

Rolodex Propaganda
Oct 4, 2003

Fall in love with spines
I can dig on that new Tera Melos track.

d0grent
Dec 5, 2004

-Atom- posted:

Tera Melos is turning into a band that isn't quite like Tera Melos, but I still find myself interested in this direction they have taken.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tropic-lame-by-tera-melos-free-mp3-20130117

Check out the first song on their new album X'ed Out.

Did you.. did you just link me to a Dinosaur Jr. track?

Seriously though, I was a big fan of Patagonian Rats and a lot of that had to do with how their guitar tone has evolved. The vocals sound nice and dreamy too, but the actual song writing of that new track leaves a little much to be desired.

Air Julio posted:

Anyone listen to Rooftops? A buddy has played a few tracks for me and they seem like they would fit in here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp60LTGerNQ

I love rooftops because they manage to blend complexity with soft calming riffs so well. They also somehow manage to have that cliche "math rock" guitar tone while still sounding unique in a way. Here's my favorite song off the album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnOSKmjyV4

Fun Fact - All the song names on that album are anagrams of each other.

d0grent fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jan 18, 2013

Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011
I don't think anyone has mentioned Spy versus Spy yet.

They wouldn't have been called "math rock" when they were around, but I think some of you might like them, as they share some of the characteristics of some of the bands already mentioned in this thread. If you want an easy reference point I suppose calling them 'Braid UK' would be a good start, so expect late 90s emo (when that was still an actual thing).

They released a single self titled ep in 1998, and an album "Little Lights" in 2000. Both were re-released in 2007 as a self titled two disc collection with a couple of demos and songs that had been on compilations.

You can find their music on myspace here.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

d0grent posted:

I love rooftops because they manage to blend complexity with soft calming riffs so well. They also somehow manage to have that cliche "math rock" guitar tone while still sounding unique in a way. Here's my favorite song off the album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnOSKmjyV4

Fun Fact - All the song names on that album are anagrams of each other.

Shiiiiit, this sounds so mellow. I love it. I've gotta grab this whole album. Thanks so much for sharing!

Lord of Sword
Dec 12, 2006

We live thinking we will never die.
We die thinking we had never lived.
Cut it out.

Pork Lift posted:

Wow, thanks! You've given me a lot to look through here but on first listen I'm immediately well on board with Tubelord (I only seem to get into bands as they break up) and Bear Cavalry. I'm currently about to check out This Town Needs Guns properly.

You could check out Big Scary Monsters, loads of British math bands including Colour, Tangled Hair, Adebisi Shank and Tubelord are/were signed with them. I think Colour were the best band in the entire genre, but a couple of other good bands from that label are Tall Ships, Calories, Rosa Valle, Mimas and Blakfish (more mathcore but still fairly poppy).

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Music video for Minus The Bear's "Listing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGaFrkzeWaE

Honestly felt like this was one of the weakest songs on the album so my reaction is pretty eh.

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005

The song itself is kinda mediocre for MtB, but I'll be damned if I don't belt out the chorus along with the band each time.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Oh, that song's from Infinity Overhead? I got an e-mail about the video earlier and I thought it was a new song. Shows how much I listen to that album :v:

I almost always have my iPod on shuffle in my car, and anytime Diamond Lightning or Cold Company come on, I'll crank the volume all the way up and get really into them. But if any of the other songs from that album come up, I tend to skip them.

Listening to Listing now and this is exactly why. It's not a bad song I guess, it's just really loving boring.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

It's not a bad song I guess, it's just really loving boring.

That's exactly how I feel. Hell even something like Toska or Lies and Eyes would have been better to promote, kind of reminds me of when they did a video for My Time where I had the same kind of response.

"Really? You're picking that song? Over the others?" :psyduck:

(Omni isn't great, but I always felt the latter half has some good poo poo on it)

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I love My Time. It sounds awesome when they play it live, too :shobon:

The more I listen to Omni, the more I think I love every song on that album. Can't say the same for Infinity Overhead, though.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
Speaking of Minus the Bear, if you haven't seen them play with Daryl Hall then you should work on that.

http://www.livefromdarylshouse.com/currentep.html?ep_id=77

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


About MtB: I don't know if anyone heard about this (but it got announced all over twitter and what not a couple of weeks ago), but they are doing 20ish shows with Circa Survive in March in the Midwest/Northeast/Southeast.

Also seconding a recommendation for Look Mexico from earlier in the thread. I have The Crucial Collection and I like it a lot.

McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...
I've been listening to quite a bit of Yowie lately and I noticed a sort of reoccurring theme in Yowie discussions: It seems like people who aren't intense Yowie or mathrock fans lump them in with the noise rock scene and think that most of their music is improvised live noise. Naturally Yowie fans don't fancy this idea much since Yowie puts a ton of effort into writing each moment of each song, as most mathrockers do. Its just a pet peeve of mine when people listen to intricate or complex music but hear noise and chaos instead. Granted Yowie is fairly chaotic, but in a very mathematical way. :science:

Sauska
Sep 12, 2012

FoxxorTheRed posted:

I've been listening to quite a bit of Yowie lately and I noticed a sort of reoccurring theme in Yowie discussions: It seems like people who aren't intense Yowie or mathrock fans lump them in with the noise rock scene and think that most of their music is improvised live noise. Naturally Yowie fans don't fancy this idea much since Yowie puts a ton of effort into writing each moment of each song, as most mathrockers do. Its just a pet peeve of mine when people listen to intricate or complex music but hear noise and chaos instead. Granted Yowie is fairly chaotic, but in a very mathematical way. :science:

I've always really liked Yowie and have known that they meticulously develop their songs, but honestly it was still a shock to hear their recent album after seeing their live show last year (or rather, two years ago, the one that melt-banana headlined), and remembering so much of it. I think even when you know what the songs are, and you know how they are crafted, it's still played in a way that feels improvised. I agree that it's just annoying when for example the friend I took to the show was just like "that's just post-modern noise", but it's especially understandable for Yowie.

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Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

FoxxorTheRed posted:

I've been listening to quite a bit of Yowie lately and I noticed a sort of reoccurring theme in Yowie discussions: It seems like people who aren't intense Yowie or mathrock fans lump them in with the noise rock scene and think that most of their music is improvised live noise. Naturally Yowie fans don't fancy this idea much since Yowie puts a ton of effort into writing each moment of each song, as most mathrockers do. Its just a pet peeve of mine when people listen to intricate or complex music but hear noise and chaos instead. Granted Yowie is fairly chaotic, but in a very mathematical way. :science:

This problem is a bad problem to have. I was surprised to hear a reviewer who had praised Hella before criticize Zach Hill's most recent solo effort as being "just noise". It's really easy for me to hold those people in contempt, as a lot of the music I love sounds like noise on the first couple of listens, but has a tremendous payoff once I can wrap my head around it. The notions that music which takes time to grow on the listener is pretentious or difficult to listen to is so flawed, but I have no idea how to demonstrate to people that I like the music I do simply because I find it catchy or viscerally satisfying without forcing them to listen to something they've decided they hate over and over again.

On another note, This Town Needs Guns just released their new album 13.0.0.0.0. I've only listened to a couple of tracks so far, but it seems that the change of vocalist was a serious downgrade. Still worth listening to for the intricate finger picking and odd rhythmic structure though.

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