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Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010
I was only recently introduced to mathcore by a friend, and I have really taken a liking to it. This thread looks to be an awesome source of new music.

The Number Twelve Looks Like You was a mathcore band in the same vein as Dillinger Escape Plan. They recently broke up, unfortunately.

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Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010
Although it isn't exactly mathcore, Spastic Ink is very complex and has everything I would want from a mathcore band. Their album Ink Complete is instrumental and this is great for me as I find mathcore vocals screamo-ish and irritating.

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

Primetime posted:

As mentioned before, one of the biggest problems with the 'math' label is it encompasses way too many bands, so you can rarely find what you want. I personally love 65daysofstatic, Minus the Bear, Maps and Atlases, and now thanks to this thread, This Town Needs Guns.

I've listened to most of what has been suggested in this thread, but it seems like a majority of the focus has switched to mathcore, and frankly I'm not a fan of metal or hard rock. Are there any other math rock bands at a Minus the Bear or Maps and Atlases level that I may have missed?

I just found Ghosts and Vodka a couple of days ago, and they really do remind me of Minus the Bear (mostly because of the guitar.) I have only been able to find one of their albums, unfortunately, but it's very good from what I've listened to.

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010
I listened to this album a lot in the week after it came out to prepare for a concert I went to. It started out disappointing and did not improve at all. I was hugely disappointed because up until then they were the only one of my favorite few bands who were still releasing good music.

Also, am I the only one who was shocked when I realized Dave Knudson of Minus The Bear was the guitarist in Botch?

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

LtKenFrankenstein posted:

See, I knew that the guy from These Arms Are Snakes played in Russian Circles, but I did not know that he was also the guy from Botch. This thread blows minds.

It is worth your time to take a couple of your favorite bands and check out the other projects of their members. I recently did this for Porcupine Tree, a prog rock band, and found all sorts of good music ranging from drone metal to jazz fusion.

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

d0grent posted:

They're recording with Matt Bayles who has produced records from the bands Botch, Minus the Bear, The Fall Of Troy, Mastodon, Russian Circles etc... So it's looking like this record will have a seriously good sound to it.\
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Just thought I'd add that he played keyboard for Minus The Bear up until Menos El Oso and probably was largely responsible for forming the band, given he worked as a producer for both Botch and Sharks Keep Moving just before they broke up and members went on to join MTB.

Trivia aside, I just wanted to thank everyone in this thread for largely introducing me to my favorite genre of music. Unfortunately, I don't have much to contribute, but I can try and shoehorn in a couple of bands.

Octis or Ocrilim is the moniker for Mick Barr, the guitarist of the previously mentioned Orthrelm. Although it's normally classified as avant garde or experimental metal, I feel that it fits the spirit of this thread perfectly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FQ1xGgq_hI&feature=related

He also did a pretty cool collaboration with Zach Hill (drummer of Hella/Bygones.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZfARY-Bn7o

Chavez is a band I have seen labeled as math rock quite often, although I don't really agree with that label. In any case, it's loud, obtrusive, and wonderful in every way and you should definitely check them out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evahRENlIXw&feature=related

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010
Oh man, this thread is still a thing. Back when I posted on page two I had only the vaguest idea what math-rock was and the only band I knew fitting the style was MTB. Now it's my favorite genre ever and I have delved deep enough to have new things to bring in to this thread. Some stuff I have especially been digging lately:

I was listening to some LITE, an excellent recommendation I presume I got from this thread, and found a related band called Mouse On The Keys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoetd0sD6Y

These guys aren't actually all that similar to LITE, aside from having an insane drummer. They are another Japanese band that reminds me a lot of Té and Toe and other bands which kind of straddle the border between post-rock and math-rock, if their style was combined with fusion. The band consists of an insane drummer and two keyboardists who play fast, arpeggiated piano lines to create a very math-rock like style with guest musicians improvising trumpet or sax parts over. Very cool stuff.

Between these guys and Lye By Mistake, a band posted in this thread who combine mathcore and fusion, I was eager to find more music that fit this general style. Jizue are another similar Japanese band who achieve a very similar style to Mouse On The Keys and even a bit more like LITE at times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfwr94u8RQk

There is a solid western band that fits the bill as well in Father Figure. These guys aren't quite as jazzy as the others, having some traditionally proggy elements and sound as well as very linear song structure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBMSuuUwV0s

Aside from things in this vein, Tuna are a metal influenced, guitar driven outfit with a great sound that incorporates electronics very well.
http://tuna.bandcamp.com/

Finally, I have been loving the 2012 release by Pile, a band introduced to me by this thread. Might not classify them as math-rock as soon as very 90's inspired, Dinosaur Jr. sounding indie rock tinted with post-hardcore, but some time signature screwery and dissonance are certainly involved to the extent where they could fit in here.
http://pile.bandcamp.com/

P.S. I'm a bit late on Zach Hill's Face Tat, but if you haven't listened to that you should, my favorite math rock album to date. I hope more people come here with new stuff to post or even to discuss specific bands or the style in general, it sucks to see this thread so dead.

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

Biscuit! posted:

Yowie put out a new album earlier this year and it is pretty amazing. If you haven't heard them before they play a very chaotic and noisy sort of controlled chaos. I have never heard anything like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyHrjoip39M

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yowie/351414864229?fref=ts

This is really cool, if a little disorienting. Definitely feels a bit off kilter and out of synch, even compared to other math rock. Kind of reminds me of Ahleuchatistas or Upsilon Acrux in that the parts carried by different instruments seem pretty incongruous at times, not really coming together to form an obvious or coherent melody.

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

FoxxorTheRed posted:

I've been listening to quite a bit of Yowie lately and I noticed a sort of reoccurring theme in Yowie discussions: It seems like people who aren't intense Yowie or mathrock fans lump them in with the noise rock scene and think that most of their music is improvised live noise. Naturally Yowie fans don't fancy this idea much since Yowie puts a ton of effort into writing each moment of each song, as most mathrockers do. Its just a pet peeve of mine when people listen to intricate or complex music but hear noise and chaos instead. Granted Yowie is fairly chaotic, but in a very mathematical way. :science:

This problem is a bad problem to have. I was surprised to hear a reviewer who had praised Hella before criticize Zach Hill's most recent solo effort as being "just noise". It's really easy for me to hold those people in contempt, as a lot of the music I love sounds like noise on the first couple of listens, but has a tremendous payoff once I can wrap my head around it. The notions that music which takes time to grow on the listener is pretentious or difficult to listen to is so flawed, but I have no idea how to demonstrate to people that I like the music I do simply because I find it catchy or viscerally satisfying without forcing them to listen to something they've decided they hate over and over again.

On another note, This Town Needs Guns just released their new album 13.0.0.0.0. I've only listened to a couple of tracks so far, but it seems that the change of vocalist was a serious downgrade. Still worth listening to for the intricate finger picking and odd rhythmic structure though.

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

-Atom- posted:

Another new Tera Melos track from X'ed Out.

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/premiere-tera-melos---sunburn


I like it a lot better than the other one, that's for sure.

I'm really excited for this new album. While untitled is definitely the classic, Patagonian Rats was great in its own right, and I trust these guys to write consistently good material regardless of style changes.

On an unrelated note, I've been listening to a lot of These Arms Are Snakes lately. I'm not sure if they've been mentioned here, but the band included the drummer from Minus The Bear and a couple members of Botch following their breakup. The style is pretty much in line with a lot of post-hardcore, but the group retained Botch's knack for writing songs with really varied and distinctive feels; they don't sound quite like anything else I've heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTm8G82JPyc

Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010

smell the witch posted:

Go reverse chronological, For All Innocence is much better than Phantasia.

Huh, I love LITE and Illuminate and Phantasia have always been my favorite releases. I definitely think For All The Innocence and Installation have more in common, but both of those phases as well as their even earlier stuff is great in its own right. Early stuff for more typical post-rock, middle of their discography for crazy signatures and syncopated, interlocking guitar riffs, and their most recent stuff for more varied instrumentation and sound and a more melodic feel.

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Pogobubba
Jan 3, 2010
The band I've always associated most closely with You Slut! has always been Cinemechanica because of their complex dueling guitar lines. They also have vocals, and only two guitarists, but I think there's a good chance you'll find the same kind of appeal there.

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