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chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

C-Euro posted:

Apart from her shitheel brother that her parents refuse to discipline (nothing new to me, he lived with her in the States for the past year), things are great. Pattaya was a week ago and we were gonna go to Chiang Mai this past weekend, but her dad was sick of driving so we've been bumming around the area around her hometown Phitsanulok. Nice place, it was the first capitol of Thailand so there's a lot of historic stuff around, which I dig. It's also halfway between Burma and Cambodia, as well as being the point where the "mountainous North" begins. So there's a lot to do.
Also I was reminded just now that there's a pair of geckos living in my room, either in the curtain mounts or the AC unit. And a bird built a nest right on my window so I can't just chase them out that way :( They make this horrible, loud lizard chirp too.

They'll eat the poo poo out of the bugs though! I always welcomed them as guests to keep other things away >_>

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chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Personally I don't really think Sihanoukville has much to offer if you're going to be on the beach in Thailand; I recommend doing Kampot (sleepy river town), Bokor Hill Station (abandoned French casino/hill station on a plateau, one of the most interesting things in Southeast Asia IMO), and Kep (seaside; has a nice little stretch of beach, freshest possible seafood, and crumbling French villas) instead. Kep and Bokor are both pretty close to Kampot - you can do a day trip to Bokor from Kampot or stay overnight and come down the next afternoon, and Kep is an easy day trip by hired motorbike.

I personally thought that Sihanoukville was a fantastic place to explore on a rented motorbike. So many abandoned places to check out and long dirt roads etc..

Though, you probably can find that stuff anywhere in Cambodia.

Bokor hill station was closed down while i was there, pretty bummed i didn't get to see it :( I heard they do new-years parties there, at least used to...

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

rockarocka posted:

Oops! A vietnamese visa...

If you plan on going through Bangkok at all, i'd get it there rather than giving up the ability to plan things on the road a bit more. It only took them 2-3 days iirc at the Vietnamese embassy.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Yeah, pretty much any Vietnamese embassy or consulate should be able to sort you out. Maybe the Bangkok one is nicer or more convenient or something? Certainly not the only place you can get one though.

You really are better off getting an RT ticket with minimal penalties for changing dates (STA Travel is good for this), as each one-way ticket is usually at least 75% the cost of a return ticket.

That said you can fake up an e-ticket itinerary pretty easily.

Because of this fear i went prepared with a return flight ticket, but never had to show it to anyone, ever. From what i've gathered though, i had impeccable mileage.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Hellfire Pass by ethics_gradient, on Flickr

fantastic!

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Shampy posted:

I just got a CELTA certificate...

did you get that online or at a local university or something?

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Ribsauce posted:

Pompous Rhombus I remembered you saying the sandals thing before and I disagree with it. I wore sandals every day for 3 months with no problems.

what do you mean kinda lonely? You are going to be traveling solo (I assume) in a place where thousands of people are also traveling solo. Everyone is lonely which means everyone wants to hang out.

I also wore mostly sandals for 5 months, brought shoes of course for long motorbike trips or treks into the jungle, but sandals treated my feet just fine--though they get real dirty, which is gross.

If you're the lonely kinda person like i am (that is, more on the shy side)... i spent about 2/3 of my time alone. So, one-third of my time was filled with traveling with other backpackers, and these were traveling buddies that fell into my lap (see above where i'm shy). If you're willing to start conversations with everyone, i'm sure you could cut that alone time down quite a bit.

I found encounters with locals a lot easier and more entertaining if you're not traveling with a group of people.

Oh, and I would advise steering clear of that USB stick idea for storing photos. I lost the first 2 months of my trip due to a USB drive virus. :(

chockomonkey fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Nov 25, 2010

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004
anyone know any sweet programs in south-east asia where you can either volunteer/teach/?? and either get paid a small amount or have boarding or something else taken care of?

What's the cheapest way to get back to SEA? >_>

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

caberham posted:

Honestly, don't be hesitant to just walk out and wonder off if things seem iffy.

great advice.

I had to do the "wonder off" multiple times, all in Vietnam though. My mileage was very good in Thailand and Laos, and even in Cambodia.

Me and the person i was traveling with at the time got into Hanoi on the late side, getting off a bus as the only two whities around. We soon had a whole mob of touts trying to get us to purchase their services for transportation. It didn't take too long before they started fighting amongst themselves (over us, it felt like--though who knows who threw an insult which we didn't understand). poo poo got so heated and chaotic (i seriously thought they were going to start swinging at each other) that we quickly walked off, having to shove our way out of the middle of this mob. We probably walked a whole 10 blocks, telling them to go away so many times to absolutely no avail, before the last moto guy stopped following us. Had to simply ignore them completely, act like they weren't even there.

And then another time, also in Hanoi, trying to find some stupid pizza place, this moto driver takes me ALL around town, clearly having no idea of where i want him to go or where he's driving to. We end up exactly where we started, so i try to reason this with him. LOL rite? A mob starts to form, i pay quickly and scuttle off. No one wants to get beat up over a moto fare...

I miss having adventures.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

tzz posted:

I wish I knew how to ride a motorbike to do that sort of stuff :ohdear:

Don't miss out on the adventures and freedom to be found exploring SEA on bike/motorbike! After doing some research on how to operate them, you would probably just be fine renting one and figuring it out as you go. Or, you could just make Ringo teach you.

Worked for me ^_^

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004
so a friend of mine is booking his flight today to BKK, and he recently had a conversation with a person at one of the Thai embassies here in the states. The lady told him that even if he applied for and received a 60 or 90-day tourist visa that he would still have to do the 30-day border hop to renew it.

He said that he double-checked that with her because it obviously sounds like it completely defeats the purpose of getting one of these longer-form visas.

Anyone heard of this?

chockomonkey fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Apr 7, 2011

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Modus Operandi posted:

She's wrong (also an idiot) and giving out info that could seriously screw people with legitimate tourist visas up. For just the regular 60 day single entry you don't need to do anything and you can extend it for another month to make it 3 consecutive months where you don't have to leave Thailand. If you left after 30 days on a 2 month tourist visa your visa would automatically be used up.

There's a 60 day tourist visa which you can get double entries which means after your first entry you can leave and come back for an additional 60 days.

If you fly in normally without a visa you get 30 days on arrival. At land borders it's only 2 weeks or something.

Thank you for this. It's what i thought, but being out of the loop for awhile it helps to have recent knowledge.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I politely shake my head "no" and the chucklefuck still threw water at my face when I was going like 35mph.

I'm really happy that I never had any situation like this happen to me. I had plenty of occurrences where it was locals being douche bags, and that was easy enough to shrug off... it if was some western dick head, I'd have a hard time not giving him a piece of my mind, or something else altogether... which doesn't sound like a good idea in a foreign country.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

White Rabbit posted:

Riding goons please stay safe.

Yes please. I plan to go back and do some more riding myself... but I now feel so incredibly lucky for having survived all those near-accidents I can recall so well.

Be safe everyone <3

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

spf3million posted:

Figured I'd drop this in here for all of the non dorkroomers. Some photos from my recent three week vaca in Thailand and Cambodia: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3408448. We did the touristy stuff for the most part, but everyone must spend at least one day at Angkor Wat, Ta Prohm, and Bayon.

those aerial photos of cambodia and angkor are awewsome.

Thanks for sharing

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

caberham posted:

Kampot was a bit of detour and hassle to go unless you plan accordingly. My trip from Kampot ---> Phnom Phen ---> Siem Reap was a rushed trip and wasted a whole day :(

I loved going there to snap photos of the hill station at Bokor Hill. But not everyone likes it.



lol yea you gotta plan like a week for Bhodi Villa.. that place has a way of keeping you around.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

the_cow_fan posted:

There are also ATMs in Vang Vieng and Luang Prubang, if for any reason they don't work just wait a few hours and try again.

I used one a couple times in Pakse as well.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Steve. posted:

So... who's taking bets as to more unrest following the upcoming elections?

http://www.smh.com.au/world/thai-pms-gamble-on-poll-20110506-1ec4x.html

If we're lucky, it will bring down ticket prices to thailand again for a short while...

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Steve. posted:

Mine were already cheap enough...!

The election is July 3rd: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/10/3212114.htm

cheapest i can see is like 1300-1400 usd... i saw them as cheap as 600 when i was in thailand during the protests.

What'd you get yours for??

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Sihanouville is okay; there are nicer beaches in Thailand tbh. Kampot is a sleepy riverside town that I'm pretty fond of, and it's a jumping off point for Bokor Hill Station, which is IMO one of the coolest places to visit in SEA, if not the world (abandoned French hill station on a plateau, frequently shrouded in fog). I think there's a fair amount of development going on in that area though, so it may be not be as off the beaten track as I remember. You can also do a day trip to Kep and explore around on a motorbike from Kampot; Kep has some crumbling French villas, a pretty small beach, and fresh, cheap seafood.

I regret not taking the time to check out the northeast of Cambodia. I went to battambang instead, and there wasn't really anything unique or exciting about it, although of course I found some exploring to do and had fun anyway. (cambodia is such a great place to just take off and explore... which is what i loved doing in Sihanoukville too--lots of abandoned buildings and remote beaches to find). Next time I'm in Cambodia, in addition to staying at the Bohdi Villa in Kampot again, i plan on seeing the Bokor Hill station and the NE region. (something like this! http://adventurevacationtrip.com/phnom-penh-kampong-cham-kratie-ratanakiri-mondulkiri-northeast-cambodia-loop-2-route)

chockomonkey fucked around with this message at 21:35 on May 12, 2011

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Macunaima posted:

That's the stuff dreams are made of, island-hopping through Indonesia on a motorbike.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Sheep-Goats posted:

Must do SE Asia, IMO:

-Angkor Wat
-Bangkok (but that's a given)
-Hilltribe trek in NW Thailand (very preferably out of Mae Hong Son)
-An island or two, possibly with SCUBA diving depending mostly on if you're on a shoestring budget or not

There's lots of other great stuff to see, but missing out on any of these on a longer (month plus) trip is weird.

how do the hill tribes in northern thailand differ from those in Laos? I never went on an offical 'hill tribe trek' or anything, but coming into Laos from Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam and going as north as Phongsali, i saw LOTS of hill tribes... also visited the touristy hill tribes in Sapa (lol) and Bac Ha... or would you say they're pretty similar?

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Sheep-Goats posted:

Oh sorry I mostly meant out of Mae Hong Son as opposed to out of Chiang Mai, doing them in Laos our anywhere else where they don't see 50 tourists a week is fine too.

yea was just curious if i missed out on something especially unique to NE Thailand hill tribes.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004
hopefully the fact that it's the high season will make it easier for you to find Trekking. The only time i tried to do a Trek was when I was in Phungsali Laos, alone... the only other travelers i saw were an older couple, so when I inquired about trekking at the local tourist office, I wasn't surprised that no one else was planning to do it and the price to go solo was obviously too much. I shoulda found some people in Udomxai before heading north, but that's my fault. Should be easy enough to do if you plan for it.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Cheesemaster200 posted:

What time are you getting in from your flight to Noi Bai? I stayed in some $10/night place my first night there right off the plane (Prince II guesthouse I think) and then we walked around the old quarter and found a really nice place called the Golden Lotus Hotel. It was expensive for Vietnam ($60 for a double), but well worth it to relax while you get adjusted to the jet lag, heat and humidity.

All of this was in the old quarter of Hanoi. Make sure you hit up Ha Long Bay if you are up by Hanoi. I went to a place call Cat Ba island where there wasn't a (western) tourist in sight. Did some swimming, motorbiking around the island, and boating around. It was a really nice little corner of Vietnam.

I'll be in SE Asia... somewhere the at same time you are there. I am planning to mostly be in Laos/Myanmar, but let me know if you get tired of Pho and old women trying to sell you pineapples.

Pho never gets old :c00lbert:

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004
Badass pictures Miike, i really enjoyed Ninh Binh also.

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chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

Packeteer posted:

I liked southern Vietnam better than northern. More relaxed and friendlier. Then again, I didn't spend much time anywhere but Hanoi and Ha Long Bay.

I'm not a big fan of Hanoi, too much big city for my liking, but I loved Cat Ba island.

I'm pretty sure most of my time in Hanoi was around the old quarter, but Hanoi felt relaxed compared to Ho Chi Minh imo

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