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JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

onemanlan posted:

Oh yeah and if you guys want the most horribly depressing documentary about humanity while having some mild uplifting effect check out Every f***ing day. I had mentioned it in the first page or two, but its worth bringing up again. It's about a mother and her children recounting the brutal life they had under her long-time husband who systematically beat and bullied every one in the family. He beat his wife with literally every implement he could find in the house for over twenty years until she snapped one day and took a hatchet to his head. Now her family prepares for her sentencing day for the crime she committed to stop systematic abuse brought on by her husbands insanity. Great documentary, OMG you want to hate the loving state for how they sentence her especially after hearing all of what the family went through.... I highly suggest this documentary if you can stomach the scenarios she puts forth.

Watching through that right now. It's some really powerful poo poo, but also points out of the main reasons that abuse still happens. People in the community saw him beating on her with their own eyes, saw her injuries, and didn't report it to the police for whatever reason.

You cannot count on someone who is being victimized in an abusive relationship to report anything, out of fear or mental illness or whatever, it doesn't matter. It's up to the people close to the victim to report this.

I worked for Prevent Child Abuse America as a volunteer for a while, and the really bad cases are, again and again, relatives and neighbors failing to report to the police what they suspect is going on.

I don't think I can express how depressing it is that the kids drew anime pictures so they could tape over the holes in the wall from their mother's head being pushed through it.


As suggestions, I would suggest ANY Frontline videos.

My favorites are:
When Kids Get life
The United States is one of the only countries in the world that allows children under 18 to be sentenced to life without parole. Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International report that more than 2,000 inmates are currently serving life without parole in the United States for crimes committed when they were juveniles; in the rest of the world, there are only 12 juveniles serving the same sentence, according to figures reported to the United Nations' Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The Storm
Katrina, and how nobody did poo poo.

I want to sit down and watch The Quake also but I haven't yet.

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JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Miss Areola Canasta posted:

We hates the China! Hates it forever! The Dying Rooms
Super-depressing British film about the female infanticide across social strata that's resulting from China's One Child policy, and the search for legendary rooms in overpacked orphanages where baby girls are abandoned and left to die.

I don't usually cry when watching documentaries, but this is terrible. I honestly never knew the extent of the enforcement of the "one child policy", other than the fact that families would commonly abandon or kill baby girls. I never heard anything about forced abortions, or babies being euthanasized at birth, or dying rooms. It's just tragic.

I've always known I wanted to adopt a child if I can, and now I know where to get my baby from.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Apologies if this was posted, but "The Business of Being Born" is pretty great. I watched it last night and really enjoyed. :nws: for titties and babies popping out of vaginas. Unsure if it's online for free, but you can watch with a free trial of netflix.

If anyone knows any other good birth/baby related documentaries (other than Babies, and In the Womb), I'd love to hear.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Begby posted:

My Flesh and Blood

This one is available on Netflix.

It tells the story of this single woman who adopted 11 children along with her 2 natural children and is raising them by herself. However, all of the adopted children have major mental or physical disabilities, some of them terminal.

This is no disney-esque single mother triumphs against all odds thing. The life she has chosen is not an easy one, and not easy for the kids either. My worst parenting day is like a vacation to Hawaii in comparison.

Its been a long time since I have cried from watching a movie, but this one had me sobbing. At the same time there are a lot of happy inspiring moments.

I ended up giving this one up half-way through. The mom seemed like a basket case who was lonely, missing her husband, and using the children to fill the void. Add to this the fact that she has no income and survives (from what I saw) on the government aid given to her children. Plus she makes her for reals daughter do all of the house work while she's "out", and that girl never got to choose her life, she's stuck doing all the laundry for kids that aren't hers and aren't related to her.

@kitties: Yeah, it did focus mainly on the home birth side of things, but I think the reason for this is that there are SO many shows on television that show you exactly what it's like to give birth in a hospital.

I didn't really mind that they went through so much trouble to show how things are with a midwife and a doula instead of doctors. I love that they bring up the fact that doctors seem to think that women are incapable of giving birth at home, when the majority of the world does it primarily that way.

I always wanted an epidural and to be given pitocin and an enema so I didn't poor on anyone, but I changed my mind years ago after taking a class taught by a midwife. I'm probably going to end up with one of those baby-pools in my living room, they seem nicer than trying to do that poo poo on your back (gently caress you gravity!) in the tub.

V I watched Thin on my own and had to watch it again for a class. I love it, and I really love that it gets at all the reasons people become anorexic. They all do so well in the clinic and mess up when they go back home out of that rigid environment. Polly died after it was filmed, I remember.

JibbaJabberwocky fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Nov 24, 2010

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Again, 'cause this thread is too long, if this is a repeat I am sorry.

I was surfing around on netflix and this documentary popped up called The Cove, I wasn't interested in it from the title, but it really was a fantastic documentary.

You can also watch it here:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/cove/

It follows an undercover team of vigilante Dolphin lovers who were out to film Japan's annual slaughter of thousands of Dolphins at a secret cove in Taiji, Japan.

If this makes you think of WHALE WARS, please stash that bullshit at the back of your mind. It's nothing like Whale Wars (beyond the fact that it's white people fighting with the Japanese for most of the film).

If you want to know more about the slaughter of Cetaceans worldwide (you know, our aquatic mammal bros who can recognize themselves, and are extremely intelligent), you will enjoy this film.

So maybe enjoy is not the right word. You'll probably be disgusted, it's really sad, since (apart from all of the blowhole rape) they're pretty nice creatures who save our asses sometimes.

Here's the WIKI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cove_(film)

Seriously, this is one of the most interesting documentaries I've ever watched. It's striking and startling, and even most of the Japanese population doesn't realize they are being duped. All that delicious whale you buy? Yeah, it's probably Dolphin. And laced with mercury you say, at toxic levels? Lovely Japan.

JibbaJabberwocky fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Nov 27, 2010

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

BonoMan posted:

I'm not trying to be an rear end, and the Cove is very good, but is pretty well known so you don't have to sell it that hard :D!

I was just afraid that goons would pass it over, because I passed it over many times, if I didn't make it sound as interesting as it is. :downs: I'm learning mountains and mountains of things about Japan and whaling. It's a loving fancy documentary.

I know so many little kids who idolize Japan because of Anime, and I'd love to sit them down and have them watch this.


Also...because it practically begs for it...

JibbaJabberwocky fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Nov 27, 2010

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

So I apologize if this was already posted, but I did read the majority of the thread and didn't see it.

A Walk To Beautiful

It's a saddening yet uplifting story of the journey that 5 Ethiopian women make to get their fistulas, a form of birth injury, corrected. Fistulas are holes that form between the vagina and bladder, and vagina and rectum, following prolonged labor. These women are poor, and some of them are far too young to have children. They enter labor, and cannot get the baby out, sometimes they labor for up to a week. During this time, the baby's head cuts off blood supply to their tissues and these tissues die and fall out. The women with fistulas constantly drip urine and/or feces, and are kicked out of the house by their families and generally considered trash.

In a major city there is a fistula clinic that fixes these problems as best they can, women have to walk on foot for miles to even reach their bus stop, and then must sit on a bus in their own excrement, with the stares of the other passengers for over 10 hours.

I loved this documentary when I watched it. Despite starting painfully, it ends very well.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

I just finished watching this really good documentary. You can find it on netflix, but I'm not sure if it is available anywhere else. If someone else locates it, the link would be greatly appreciated.

Girl 27
Patricia was a 17 year old dancer when she was raped at a MGM sales party in 1937. Everyone involved in the case did everything they possibly could to make sure no one knew her name or her story. It's a documentary about loss, corruption, coverup, and the ruining of a life. Very compelling, not at all a happy ending, but a good, stark look at the horrors humans perpetrate on one another. She did not ever receive her legal vindication, and the lifelong scars she carried with her really hurt the life of her daughter.

I'm not going to go more into her daughter's story, but you know what they say about victims being victimized repeatedly. Well, it sure seems to be true.

I'm going to apologize in advance if that doesn't make much sense, I'm pretty sleepy.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Selenite posted:

http://www.archive.org/details/chickenhawk

Chickenhawk: it's pedos openly talking about their "boy love". It's pretty drat creepy to see how these guys think and how they don't believe that they're the ones in the wrong, just the poor abused victims of a repressive society that doesn't recognize children's rights to sexual freedom(puke). Yeah, we already know about that but to actually see it is something else. Typically, the film will show one of these pedos talking earnestly about their "boy love". Then the scene cuts to a distraught parent, sometimes on the verge of tears. One scene has a couple of kids talking about how one pedo was "weird".

I know I watched this a long time ago, and I'm not entirely sure if I finished it. It's honestly pretty boring, and really creepy. All the men have deluded themselves into thinking that little boys are always flirting with them and trying to seduce them, so they don't feel badly for wanting to gently caress them. It's a really uncomfortable documentary. I guess Pedos have to pretend that the boys want it, otherwise they have to admit they are the bad guys and that their urges are seriously hosed up.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

the kawaiiest posted:

Jesus gently caress I couldn't watch the whole thing. This is awful. Some guy actually describes raping a boy and claims that the kid "wanted it". What the gently caress is wrong with people? Jesus Christ. :gonk:

It's the NAMBLA bulletin that :psyduck: 's me. I completely understand why some prisons wont let them get such mailings. NAMBLA masquerades as a "wholesome" organization but it's really shifty. And the nude fairy boy art. I don't know what the gently caress.

:smith: Also, Allen Ginsberg you upset me. I liked you more when I didn't know you were a pedophile.

Yeah I went back to rewatch it because I can't remember most of it. I basically don't care what pedophiles do as long as they're not purchasing porn or out molesting real children. It would suck to only be attracted to a type of person that couldn't legally consent (or morally I guess), but as long as they keep it in their pants they're not hurting anyone.

It's the guy that's always driving around who is the SUPER CREEPER. I don't doubt that some kids may be interested enough in sex to proposition adults, but the vast majority of them don't want anything to do with it. Even if the kids may think they're interested, they aren't considered competent to make those decisions. I love that this guy thinks the boys are flirting, even though the boys comment later that they thought he was just a retarded creepy fucker.

God this is so uncomfortable, I know why I didn't finish it last time. You can't believe anything that comes out of their mouths, they twist the truth so completely.

JibbaJabberwocky fucked around with this message at 02:36 on May 15, 2011

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Which Way Home is a HBO documentary about South and Central American children making the trip to cross the border into America. If you enjoyed the documentary about North Korean immigrants that was posted a few pages ago, this one is also a good one. I'd suggest it highly, especially if you are interested in how immigrants cross. I was never aware how many children made the trip alone, it's truly astonishing.

Some of the boys they about in the film did not make it, in that they died before or after they made it over the border. It's very sad at some points, but overall you can't help wanting the children to make it successfully to America.

I like this film mostly because you get to know the boys very well. You hear their stories and their reasons for traveling to America. It just brings you a lot closer to the boys in the documentary, and you feel like you understand why they're trying to leave their home countries. It's crazy how many of them are planning to be adopted in America. I wonder how often that actually happens, and how difficult it is to adopt immigrant children.

It's astonishing how friendly the authorities are, south of the border, to migrants. I guess it did not take long to realize it's better to try to help the immigrants, and to be nice when you deport them, than it is to be a cock about it. Admittedly, the cops are complete doucebags and gently caress the migrants over whenever possible, but the men and women in the government in immigration services all seem to be really nice.

:3: Yurico is a badass and he's my favorite, even if he is a really depressing drug addict. I wish his life would be better than it is. And Kevin's stepdad is a cock.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Lady Demelza posted:

One thing I couldn't quite work out from the film (and I'd never heard of NAMBLA before) is whether or not they support men who want to 'love' underage girls too. If ten year old boys are 'flirty' with fat middle-aged men, then ten year old girls must be too, right?

I think there is a man/girl love equivalent of NAMBLA, but I cannot for the life of me remember their name. They aren't as well known as NAMBLA. For some reason, it seems like there are more man on boy pedophiles who are "out".

Butterfly Kisses is the name of the group for women/girl love though. Yeah, this exists.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

I was talking about the film Orgasm Inc. with one of my classmates. She said it was a really interesting movie, and a great look into the Pharmaceutical industry (which is what I'm currently studying). I've looked everywhere for this film online. Does anyone have a link to it?

And also, has anyone watched it? If so I'd love to hear more reviews on the film.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

I've read through the whole threat at one point or another and I don't think either of these have been posted before.

The Perfect Vagina
Enjoy looking at vaginas in this documentary about women and the new trend of vaginoplasty. Everyone's watched porn, and porn ladies all have the coveted "little kid vag". Yeah some of you right now are thinking :psyduck: "what the christ!?" but seriously, think about it. The ideal vagina is shaved, and the vaginal lips aren't pokey but tucked instead. You basically have older women trying to get to the point where they look like little kids. A great documentary for any woman who's thought "Jesus my snatch is ugly," or any man who's been about to get down with a lady and told them their vagina is too ugly and gotten the gently caress out. :nws: obviously and there are some surgical videos of a woman getting surgery. I was actually really unhappy with the scene in which the young lady has her labia snipped. Apparently people made fun of her for having gross hanging meat, but when you see her bits in the video, you realize she had a really pretty vagina before they cut it up. Pretty as vaginas go anyway. If I had a dick I'd have hosed that.

Busting Out
Follow up your trip to snatch-ville with a good look at how western culture views titties. :nws: for titties, though I guess you could always claim to your boss that you were interested in empowering women. A look at breasts, breast cancer, breast reduction and augmentation, and just titties in general. Any ladies in the audience may be convinced to breast feed (good, you should all breast feed) if they were against it.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Grand Moff Tarkin posted:

I came for the breasts, but stayed for the documentary. I kinda wish I spoke Japanese to understand fully though.

Yeah sorry I forgot to mention that it starts out incomprehensible and if you wait then there's the documentary. But I thought it was a good documentary about accepting the titties you have. I also REALLY wanted to know what the guy was saying at the beginning but I guess it probably went along the lines of "Guys: titties, boobs, breasts, etc, you know you love them, so please watch more about them."

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Apologies if this was posted earlier in the thread, but at this point the things so massive it doesn't generally matter. I also feel like I'll probably make a lot of edits to this post over time. Firstly though, it could be :nms: to some viewers. The children are really neglected and starved to a degree that they're essentially skeletons covered with skin. It's not pleasant. It could also be :nws: because there are scenes containing nudity of underage individuals THOUGH they make a fairly effective attempt at blurring the genitalia.

Bulgaria's Abandoned Children

Summary from the site posted:

The Social Care Home – where 75 unwanted children are growing up – is the main employer in the small village of Mogilino. Few of the children can talk, not necessarily because they are unable but rather because no one has ever taught them how.

Kate meets the children in this tragic, silent world, such as Milan, the gentle giant who spends his days doing chores and watching over the others, and mildly autistic 18-year-old Didi, who is able to talk, and has plenty to say, but no one to speak to. The children that surround them suffer a variety of problems, many are blind or deaf and some are unable to leave their beds, many are literally wasting away.

Abandoned into the hands of the staff at Mogilino these children inhabit a bleak uncaring world, so devoid of normal everyday stimulus that many have taken to rocking slowly and constantly in their chairs just for something to do.

Bulgaria has more institutionalised mentally and physically disabled children than anywhere else in Europe. This film is a heart-rending and eye-opening look into the life of one such institution.

I found this documentary intriguing because it was almost like traveling back in time. The United States had badly run hospitals for the mentally ill in the early to mid 20th century. Bulgaria is clearly way behind the times and I find it really sad to see the state that these children are in. Many of them are not mentally deficient, but suffer from blindness and deafness.

One girl focused on is only mildly autistic. She seems to have a slight deficit in her mental capacity and she's certainly a tad odd, but to see her, a fully functioning teen girl, surrounded solely by individuals who cannot speak is really heart wrenching. At the beginning she's vivacious and spends her spare time reading, a month later she doesn't talk and simply sits and rocks with the other girls. Oh, and don't even try to keep the sexes of the children straight, most of the time they all just look like boys.

Everyone in the film is neglected and malnourished. I'm not sure how many of you watched the documentaries on the orphanages in China filled with sickly girls who are now mentally disturbed because of neglect, but it's a lot like that. The scenes with the younger children who simply looked like starving infants, but were all much older, is especially hard to watch.

The worst part is that you realize about 25min into the film that this is the institution putting on a good face for the cameras, what you see is them on their best behavior. It makes you wonder what life is like there when the BBC isn't filming.


Okay, so this film just gets worse and worse the longer I watch it. You're probably going to finish being really pissed off and depressed, so this is far from a happy film.

JibbaJabberwocky fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Nov 27, 2011

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

vjee32 posted:

^^^
Bulgaria's Abandoned Children revisited

"Revisited" of the previous documentary.

I was getting down to watch that right now, so I hope I can come back with a good review of it.

Apparently people in Europe got so amazingly pissed off at the conditions in the first documentary that they threw money at the problem until it went away. Usually I'm against throwing money at a thing, but I think that in combination with all the outrage made the situation over there a lot better.

So, this is a much more upbeat film and focuses on certain children who where once held at Mogilino and have now been moved to much better care homes. Mogilino has been closed now for 2 years, so there's that. Bulgaria has a long way to go, but they're getting much better.

JibbaJabberwocky fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 27, 2011

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

I just finished Reel Injun because netflix suggested it to me and I found it to be a really interesting and engaging documentary about the depiction of Native Americans in film. It starts with silent films at the very beginning and goes all the way through Native American directed films.

If you think all indigenous Americans wear feather headdresses and ride horses you might want to give this documentary a watch.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Naggy2000 posted:

Skimmed the thread for these but didnt find them:

- Waiting for Superman
How the american education system... doesnt work:

Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKTfaro96dg
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566648/

Quoting from a long way back but this documentary is excellent and can be found on Netflix instant play. If you care about the education system in the US, if you wonder why public education doesn't seem to be working, or if you have kids of your own this is an excellent documentary about exactly why and how failures in the government and the teachers unions are driving our education system into the ground.

Probably goes without saying but it'll make you mad.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Farbtoner posted:

Here's a pretty good counter-point to the movie. If you don't really know anything about the way that the public education system has been systematically dismantled over the past decade for the explicit purpose of trying to make schools one more thing that politicians can privatize and cash in on I can understand why you might think it's a powerful and eye-opening documentary. As it is it's just a bunch of obnoxious emotional manipulation and bad statistics designed to make people want to abandon the public school system instead of fixing it back up.

I didn't really get that message from the documentary at all, to the point I have to ask "We're we even watching the same thing?" And your whole comment was uselessly smug, "if you don't really know anything" indeed....

Most of the movie discusses public schools and ways in which to change public schools in a very reasonable and rational way (like tackling teacher's unions and getting rid of ridiculous tenure). They mention charter schools only near the end of the film as the current choice for parents who want better education. Clearly those parents would rather send their child to a near-by good public school, but those schools just do not exist.

I believe in the message of paying teachers more for being better at their job and firing teachers who aren't teaching and are just using tenure as a way to skate through life, getting paid for reading the newspaper. They only focused on charter schools because those are the schools currently with the capacity to teach children with evidence based methods that really work.

That bit about bad schools creating bad neighborhoods? That's the absolute straight truth. If we want to handle the job crisis, to handle the obesity epidemic, to handle violence and the overfilling of our jails, it starts with telling kids when they're really little that teachers will be with them every step of the way and will help them succeed at everything they want to do, regardless of their parents SES. And then the teachers have to actually do it!

I believe the true message was not to make more charter schools, but to make public schools more like good charter schools. It's proven to be effective when done well but because of political and social issues.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

I really enjoyed Poor America. Can anyone suggest other good Panorama videos that I might locate on youtube?

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Defnoops posted:

Not sure if this has been posted here or not, but UK channel 4 has a load of documentaries available on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/4oDDocumentaries
Even though they're on youtube, I can't watch them in the states. I wish there was a way around that...

edit: herp derp actually it was really easy to find a UK proxy.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Rycalawre posted:

Why the gently caress would you believe official government figures on anything at all? It is all totally manipulated to gently caress.

It's not just the government figures either. And rather than manipulated, the figures for our homeless population are completely estimated. The government likes to estimate low and other organizations like to estimate high.

The bottom line is that it's very VERY hard to accurately count a transitional part of our population that lives in tents in the woods, inside sewers, etc. Census takers can't just show up and count our homeless population.

That being said, I'm watching the newest episodes of Big Fat Gypsy Wedding on youtube and it's marvelously entertaining. It's like the world's trashiest documentary and I'm ashamed to enjoy it.

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JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

I just finished watching Semper Fi: Always Faithful on netflix. Here's their summary.

quote:

Marine Corps Master Sgt. Jerry Ensminger was a devoted Marine for nearly twenty-five years. As a drill instructor he lived and breathed the "Corps" and was responsible for indoctrinating thousands of new recruits with its motto Semper Fidelis or "Always Faithful". When Jerry's nine-year old daughter Janey died of a rare type of leukemia, his world collapsed. As a grief-stricken father, he struggled for years to make sense of what happened. His search for answers led to the shocking discovery of a Marine Corps cover-up of one of the largest water contamination incidents in U.S. history. Semper Fi: Always Faithful follows Jerry's mission to expose the Marine Corps and force them to live up to their motto to the thousands of soldiers and their families exposed to toxic chemicals. His fight reveals a grave injustice at North Carolina's Camp Lejeune and a looming environmental crisis at military sites across the country.

It doesn't just focus on that one man, but on many different families influenced by this tragedy. Long story short, the Marine Corps dumped hazardous waste improperly, it got into the well-water at came Lejeune, stayed there for decades, and caused numerous birth defects, childhood cancers, and adult cancers (oddly male breast cancer is very common). The Marine Corps has been and still is dragging their feet on notifying everyone who could have been exposed, likely because they don't want the bad press and they don't want to have to pay for medical care for the thousands of individuals effected.

I felt like I needed to come back and say more. This film isn't only about environmental negligence on the part of the Marine Corps, but also on the part of the EPA. It's a good example of how special interest lobby groups can use the power of money to continue dumping poisonous carcinogens without thought to how it will affect the public. It's always nice to be reminded that to my Government, I'm worth next to nothing in comparison with multi-billion dollar corporations.

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