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TheBacon posted:Ok ok that’s some color. Next though I am going to need you to convince BMW corporate (you obviously have a direct line) to bring the M3 touring here. I’ll buy one from you personally and pr0jayhawk will too. That’s enough sales to justify it right? Oh and stick please tia Same but an M340i Touring plox 
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The big bmw grills are important so you know to move over when one is behind you in the highway
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kill me now posted:. Or would you prefer another black/white/silver/grey car? I'd prefer one that doesn't have a grille that looks like a can of smashed up dog poo poo.
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Saw an M4 the other day and still Nope on the grills.
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There's a Dodge dealer near me that was selling a bunch of new '23 V6 Challengers for $20k 
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You can get a manual v8 challenger for under $30k before any haggling
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euphronius posted:The big bmw grills are important so you know to move over when one is behind you in the highway Don't forget the light up grill option so people know even at night
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TheBacon posted:Ok ok that’s some color. Next though I am going to need you to convince BMW corporate (you obviously have a direct line) to bring the M3 touring here. I’ll buy one from you personally and pr0jayhawk will too. That’s enough sales to justify it right? Oh and stick please tia I would definitely pay a $1300/month payment for a manual m3 touring in the US But how about $1900/mo for an M5 touring which may or may not actually happen? wesleywillis posted:I'd prefer one that doesn't have a grille that looks like a can of smashed up dog poo poo. Well unfortunately cans of smashed up dog poo poo sell, no matter how angry it makes internet commenters https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/01/04/...rs%20in%202023.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:There's a Dodge dealer near me that was selling a bunch of new '23 V6 Challengers for $20k
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kill me now posted:I would definitely pay a $1300/month payment for a manual m3 touring in the US I think the grotesquerie of current BMW grills does a great job of announcing the brand identity, which in turn makes it a great way for the driver to advertise being wealthy enough to drive a BMW. The fact that's fugly is not relevant to this sort of owner.
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Remulak posted:Oh that’s why I got one as a rental instead of an econobox. I thought I got lucky, but it costs LESS than whatever tiny Kia they were gonna give me. It's actually a great new car deal while it lasts, 300 hp V6 mated to an 8 speed trans that's an ok combo, not horrible by any means. What else could you even get at 20k close to that? I rented a Charger GT with the same combo for a week last year and it was actually pretty good especially on the highway. Wasn't impressed with the trans on the back roads but it's not that type of car. If you could get one with a manual it would be a screaming deal.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I think the grotesquerie of current BMW grills does a great job of announcing the brand identity, which in turn makes it a great way for the driver to advertise being wealthy enough to drive a BMW. The fact that's fugly is not relevant to this sort of owner. People who aren’t chronically on the internet hearing the “BIG GRILL BAD” echo chamber on every post may in fact actually like the way it looks. I know this sounds crazy, but there are absolutely people who like the way it looks without some weird “it’s ugly so people know I’m RICH” justification. The roundel on the front and back are all people who think like that need.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It's actually a great new car deal while it lasts, 300 hp V6 mated to an 8 speed trans that's an ok combo, not horrible by any means. What else could you even get at 20k close to that? I always like getting Challengers when I rent. Decent power, fairly quiet, and an all around very comfortable couch.
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They still sold more 4 series back in 2015 then the dumb internet troll versions of 2020+. You can't count the i4 in those new numbers as well.
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Challenger is indeed an ideal rental.
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Keyser_Soze posted:They still sold more 4 series back in 2015 then the dumb internet troll versions of 2020+. You can't count the i4 in those new numbers as well. While that’s true, the overall trend of car sales is falling so it’s not really a direct comparison. I’d tolerate the bad grill in the car segment because you get a hatch. Russian Bear fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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kill me now posted:I would definitely pay a $1300/month payment for a manual m3 touring in the US Personally I don’t like the nose but I would hope eventually for an aftermarket solution. I don’t think I can get approved for the whatever $160k M5 (also I have dino brain and the hybrid plus no stick is less appealing, I’d probably look into importing an E61 instead lmao). Which it is funny how much I have grown okay with the bangle stuff (outside the 7 series rear end).
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kill me now posted:People who aren’t chronically on the internet hearing the “BIG GRILL BAD” echo chamber on every post may in fact actually like the way it looks. I know this sounds crazy, but there are absolutely people who like the way it looks without some weird “it’s ugly so people know I’m RICH” justification. Didn't BMW issue a press release that stated that 40% of their customers liked the new grill?
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MrLogan posted:Didn't BMW issue a press release that stated that 40% of their customers liked the new grill? Damning with faint praise
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Full Collapse posted:I always like getting Challengers when I rent. Decent power, fairly quiet, and an all around very comfortable couch. I've had my T/A for about 5.5 years and love, love, love it. I would buy another in a heartbeat if I lost this one somehow, but plan on keeping it for life. It's a member of the family. We've been idly looking at a second car for my wife and everything out there is just so...disappointing. I'd make an effortpost long term review but that's not for this thread. I haven't read anything about it so I'm really hoping Dodge doesn't gently caress up the new electric Charger too hard because that could be a cool successor
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TheBacon posted:(also I have dino brain and the hybrid plus no stick is less appealing, I’d probably look into importing an E61 instead lmao). E61 M5 didn't come with a stick, so get prepared to spanner it yourself.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:E61 M5 didn't come with a stick, so get prepared to spanner it yourself. Yeah but swapping a transmission is a lot loving easier than swapping the whole drive train and doing a bunch of bodywork. Plus they get blown up so much here finding a trans will be easy as cake. I am aware of the ease as I have very seriously gone down the research hole for S65/M3 swapping my E91.
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davecrazy posted:Grills on current gen BMWs are obnoxious. I always hated the kidney grilles. Apparently, they actually could get worse
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TheBacon posted:$160k M5 I'm sorry. What?
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KillHour posted:I'm sorry. What? That was part of the rumor of the touring coming to the US
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TheBacon posted:That was part of the rumor of the touring coming to the US That's almost 20 grand more than the M5 CS from last generation. I just don't see it.
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kill me now posted:Well unfortunately cans of smashed up dog poo poo sell, no matter how angry it makes internet commenters lol at the framing of this article. "Customers bought this car that is a composite of thousands of features... must have been BECAUSE of this one feature!"
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KillHour posted:That's almost 20 grand more than the M5 CS from last generation. I just don't see it. That didnt need to homologate a body just for itself is all I got  it is in panamera sport turismo turbo range
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Residency Evil posted:Add me to the list. 100%. Would make a perfect dad/ski/bike car. Yeah I would order an M3 Touring today if I could. Wouldn't even hesitate for a moment. I'd probably add a bunch of poo poo I don't need like individual color and carbon ceramic brakes. Stick would be nice but after living with the Alfa's 8HP transmission the last three years, it's pretty drat good. I've almost given up on having a manual daily so whatever. Just give me paddles and make cool sounds, that's all I want.
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Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:Yeah I would order an M3 Touring today if I could. Wouldn't even hesitate for a moment. I'd probably add a bunch of poo poo I don't need like individual color and carbon ceramic brakes. Same. I keep going back and forth on an X3M and I know in my heart it would be almost impossible to leave the dealership if there was a murdered out black M3 Touring sitting there for me to grab. And yes Id also do something more stupid like ordering it in Individual Velvet Blue with a ton of options I dont need.
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Muscle Tracer posted:lol at the framing of this article. "Customers bought this car that is a composite of thousands of features... must have been BECAUSE of this one feature!" Its more that they didn't not buy it because of this one glaring thing that the internet says is bad. Whether people are buying it in spite of the grill or because of it, the fact that it is selling well enough as a sedan/coupe these days is going to be seen by BMW as a success and will encourage them to continue putting out designs that stray from the traditional BMW look.
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Tesla requiring mandatory FSD "demo" for new customers or cars returning from service. Guess there aren't enough people shelling out $12,000.00 American dollars for it?
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I would love even an M340i touring or an M340d touring or an Alpina B5
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Don’t worry guys I’ll make sure to catalogue a 3-series touring assuming the EV Neue Klasse touring models come to Japan, which I assume they will, because we still get plenty of wagons over here. At least I’ll try to crawl all over one at the dealer sometime
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Genesis is apparently doing their own AMG/M thing and calling it "Magma" https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a60301240/genesis-magma-performance-gv60-concept/ I don't love that they're starting with the crossover and that the G80 sedan is going to be middle east only, but at least the color is cool.
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I can't imagine anyone in the world is like, "I like the GV60, but I wish it was faster"
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Sab669 posted:I can't imagine anyone in the world is like, "I like the GV60, but I wish it was faster" Then explain all the X3M's people buy.
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