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Well if you're ever seen a volcanic eruption, doesn't magma move pretty slow? Or is is lava once its above ground? gently caress its probably lava isn't it...
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KillHour posted:Genesis is apparently doing their own AMG/M thing and calling it "Magma" Cool wheels. I wonder if those will be standard.
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Mar 26, 2024 14:14
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Hyundai did light blue so Genesis picked bright orange and I guess they wanted to lean into it. I appreciate them bucking the trend of default car colors being boring as gently caress.
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Mar 26, 2024 14:15
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smooth jazz posted:
https://youtu.be/yVo1S52xdpI?si=lTszknCXJE9WqNKV
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Sab669 posted:
For now, the X3 looks fine. For now.
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Franco Caution posted:For now, the X3 looks fine. For now. Are there any leaks of the G45 X3? I forgot that comes out this year. All I can find on a quick search is camoflagued photos on news sites, and I'm guessing what are fan renders on an image search. Sab669 fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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Mar 26, 2024 15:40
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phosdex posted:Cool wheels. I wonder if those will be standard. They look like a knockoff of Vossen's LC series wheels https://vossenwheels.com/wheel/lc3-01t/
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Mar 26, 2024 16:21
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I generally like what Genesis is doing (yes even that Magma thing) but wtf is this https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/03/sporty-orange-and-big-luxury-genesis-brings-its-ev-game-to-ny/
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Mar 26, 2024 17:54
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It’s marketed as a toy for people to have as their 3rd or 4th car i guess .
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Mar 26, 2024 17:57
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mobby_6kl posted:I generally like what Genesis is doing (yes even that Magma thing) but wtf is this It's a concept car OP. Concept cars are notorious for being crazy and impractical but generally cool-looking at first glance.
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Mar 26, 2024 18:01
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FlapYoJacks posted:It's a concept car OP. Concept cars are notorious for being crazy and impractical but generally cool-looking at first glance. That screen isn't cool looking tho, op op.
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Mar 26, 2024 18:06
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Most new cars are for people that hate driving and would rather be scrolling TikTok, so that's what gets concepted and marketed.
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Mar 26, 2024 18:08
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mobby_6kl posted:I generally like what Genesis is doing (yes even that Magma thing) but wtf is this So you can watch your Criterion Collection in a proper letterbox format.
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Mar 26, 2024 18:11
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“Magma” sounds ominous
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FlapYoJacks posted:It's a concept car OP. Concept cars are notorious for being crazy and impractical but generally cool-looking at first glance. Unless you are honda and really really hate selling electric cars. The e was pretty much unchanged from concept to retail and spent way too much of the BOM on replicating that silly interior. SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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Mar 26, 2024 22:31
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FlapYoJacks posted:It's a concept car OP. Concept cars are notorious for being crazy and impractical but generally cool-looking at first glance. Are you saying there isn't going to be an enormous widescreen stuck on the dashboard? 
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Mar 27, 2024 01:38
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Genesis has done pretty nice concepts in the past.
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SlowBloke posted:Unless you are honda and really really hate selling electric cars. The e was pretty much unchanged from concept to retail and spent way too much of the BOM on replicating that silly interior. Honda hates selling any cars. I just read an article about the collapse of Honda's market share in Europe. Last year they sold 66 000 cars here, even Porsche sold a third more. In Finland they topped at 6700 cars in 2007, last year they sold 201.
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Mar 27, 2024 02:43
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Cool concepts don't mean poo poo when you're never going to build it
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mobby_6kl posted:Are you saying there isn't going to be an enormous widescreen stuck on the dashboard? Of course. But it won’t slide out from the dash and it will probably be smaller and mounted in the center like every other modern vehicle.
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Saukkis posted:Honda hates selling any cars. I just read an article about the collapse of Honda's market share in Europe. Last year they sold 66 000 cars here, even Porsche sold a third more. In Finland they topped at 6700 cars in 2007, last year they sold 201. Are doing a pivot to developing markets or they don't want to hit EU emission/safety standards like Suzuki?
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They might be making a move toward small engine to avoid regulation headaches. They already have a dominant market share in everything from ATVs to trash pumps.
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Sab669 posted:Cool concepts don't mean poo poo when you're never going to build it Saab took that a step further with the Aero X. They just quit building cars soon after.
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Magma is definitely a strange name. Really lining up the nickname Smegma if not well received, too.
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Saukkis posted:Honda hates selling any cars. I just read an article about the collapse of Honda's market share in Europe. Last year they sold 66 000 cars here, even Porsche sold a third more. In Finland they topped at 6700 cars in 2007, last year they sold 201. I've had two Honda motorcycles, and Honda just pisses me off. They would have the *perfect* commuter motorcyle if they'd just put cruise control on the NC750. They'd have the perfect adventure bike if they'd just put cruise on the transalp 750. But no, cruise is gated to the 1100 and up engines (Africa Twin, Rebel 1100) I guess they don't want to take away sales from the Africa Twin or Gold Wing, but seriously both of those are almost $20k new. I don't understand how Honda made the NC750x DCT throttle by wire and *didn't* put cruise control. Now that I have cruise on a bike, I'm never going back. That poo poo is so cash. The smallest displacement bike I could find it on was a CFMoto ibex 800T (KTM 790 adventure clone) I would've gotten the rebel 1100 DCT if I didn't have to immediately turn around and put $300 of forward controls on it so it wouldn't feel so comically small. I guess they just want to make pressure washers and lawnmowers or something. Also that huge screen almost hitting the windshield is so dumb.
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Africa Twin start at 14.5 but your point still stands I’d say. They also do other maddening stuff like shipping CRF300L with suspension set up for a middle school sized child.
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Saukkis posted:Honda hates selling any cars. I just read an article about the collapse of Honda's market share in Europe. Last year they sold 66 000 cars here, even Porsche sold a third more. In Finland they topped at 6700 cars in 2007, last year they sold 201. Isn't this more due to protectionist policies than anything Honda is or is not doing?
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Neo_Crimson posted:Isn't this more due to protectionist policies than anything Honda is or is not doing? Every other car here in Finland is a Corolla wagon, so Honda must be doing something wrong. Maybe people just got tired of endless rust issues.
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Russian Bear posted:Africa Twin start at 14.5 but your point still stands I’d say. I'm sorry, you're right. The AT I'm always lusting after is the DCT adventure sports with the electronic suspension, which gets pretty expensive. I love how that bike looks. Also I just remembered that Honda didn't even sell the AT in 2023 in the US at all. They also don't sell the NT1100 here either, which I would love to have as a commuter/tourer. E: but they sell the fury, which I guess is their take on a chopper, but man, I never see those anywhere but showrooms. I've never seen one on the road. It's like Honda just doesn't understand this market at all. People that buy choppers are likely to never buy anything but Harley Davidson. I really wanted the HD Pan America special, but holy poo poo that bike was expensive as all hell and very heavy. It goes like a scalded dog and rode great, but I just couldn't justify the $20k+ price tag at the time. BloodBag fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Neo_Crimson posted:Isn't this more due to protectionist policies than anything Honda is or is not doing? Honda hasn't cared for/understood Europe for like 20 years now. They where late to the diesel game when that was all the rage, and they are late with lackluster electric offerings now. They apparently did something to piss off their entire dealer network here in Norway, so they are only sold through gray market dealers. Not a great look when you are trying to sell a premium lifestyle car (The e). The Honda name doesn't really hold any cashet being mostly snowblowers and lawnmowers around here. They have been outsold by Hyundai in Europe since like 2001. The Honda e has ceased production and it's Chinese made and designed replacement, the e:NY1, has been mostly panned. https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/honda/eny1
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Neo_Crimson posted:Isn't this more due to protectionist policies than anything Honda is or is not doing? Not really. The reason seems to be the strict emission standards and those apply equally to European brands. I bet BMW and M-B have hard time getting their cars below the 95grams of CO2 per km limit.
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Honda's European range gets broadly similar economy to Toyota and they're much more successful.
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Toyota sold ~900k cars in Europe last year and Honda 60k. (VAG 3300k and Stellantis 2100k.)
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It’s a shame Because as I’ve said before I think the current Accord is maybe the best mid market sedan ever made
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I don't think they sell the Accord in Europe at all. No idea WTF Honda is doing (or rather not doing). EU's a pretty big market and cars like the Fit, Civic and Accord (RIP) are all in popular segments, not to mention their CUV thingies. I haven't been insde a current-gen Honda but they seem to be very competitive by all accounts so it's really strange. Maybe it's becasue everything is only weird E-CVT hybrid and people hate it? 
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euphronius posted:It’s a shame Because as I’ve said before I think the current Accord is maybe the best mid market sedan ever made Mid market sedan is not an important category in Europe, especially not one as large as the Accord has got.
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euphronius posted:It’s a shame Because as I’ve said before I think the current Accord is maybe the best mid market sedan ever made The Accord is nice, but I'd still take an XSE trim V6 Camry over it all day long.
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The current Fit generation is really nice (I’ve driven one from a car share service), I’m not sure why they can’t or won’t shift more in Europe. It’s certainly better than the Yaris.
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harperdc posted:The current Fit generation is really nice (I’ve driven one from a car share service), I’m not sure why they can’t or won’t shift more in Europe. It’s certainly better than the Yaris. My mom was talking about selling her Fit -- 2017ish, I think, lowest trim and a manual. I convinced her to keep it, they're just great vehicles. My wife has a 2015 EX, but it's a CVT.
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I had a '16 Fit with the manual; hated it and sold it in 6 months. Great appliance for normies who want to be economical, but for anyone who likes cars/driving I don't know how anyone could stomach such a boring thing.
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