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Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I read some really good reviews of the Mazda 2, so I went and test drove one this weekend. It was very fun! The ergonomics are nice, and it wears that big Mazda grin pretty well. But most importantly if felt good. The switchgear was awesome, the shifter was really, really sweet. The clutch felt good, and throttle response was nice, especially at higher revs. Mostly, though, it corners extremely well for a front driver. It is genuinely a joy to toss around. Next car I still think is going to be a Fiat, but this Mazda certainly joins the shortlist as a competitor if dealers start asking $20k for a 500, though.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2011 18:04

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 06:29

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

How is it size wise compared to a CRX or even an Accent hatch?

# ¿ Jan 13, 2011 21:19

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

redscare posted:

Its a pretty small car. Specs say its a couple of inches shorter than an Accent and slightly wider than an Elantra. They made good use of space inside though, the front two seats are pretty spacious. poo poo for room in the back, but that's to be expected.

That's good - we need more small cars.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2011 23:41

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

The hottest wagon.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2011 17:14

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

McMadCow posted:

That thing is ugly.

You are wrong.

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# ¿ Jan 21, 2011 19:53

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I heard rumor a week or two ago about the next Fiat that's supposed to be sold here, maybe next year (B-class car, not a Chrysler). Has anybody heard more about what that might be?

# ¿ Feb 24, 2011 17:33

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

This one was supposed to be a Fiat through and through, though. A NA spec Punto or something, maybe. Well, we'll have to wait and see I guess.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2011 18:12

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Coredump posted:

I want more than anything for this car to come out and kick rear end. I really do. I've always wanted to see what the benefits of having a flat four in a FR configuration would do. Its just after all I've heard this car going through I'm not too hopeful on how it will come out. Please let me be wrong.

I estimate a bit more style than substance, since it's coming in as a Scion and is supposed to act as their halo car. Of course, that might be good since Scion is always trying to push superchargers on their tC buyers and what not.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2011 15:22

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Throatwarbler posted:

The Buick version is a rebadged Astra, it is quite a bit more upmarket and they always have the option of dropping in the 2.0T engine for a Gran Sport range topper.

This is a good looking interior.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2011 16:59

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

shodanjr_gr posted:

gently caress I love the front but it looks like they ran out of money before they got to designing the rear end...

You know that's an absolutely iconic rear end, right? That it's supposed to be like that?

# ¿ Apr 28, 2011 16:35

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I just cannot get into Audis. They all seem terribly bland. But then I guess that's what their market wants.

# ¿ May 27, 2011 16:58

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wav3form posted:

Have you ever owned one?

Nope. And I'm just fine with that - the cars have zero appeal.

# ¿ May 29, 2011 06:33

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Without a minivan where will I keep my car parts?

# ¿ Jul 21, 2011 20:04

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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:

We don't have a derailAILED thread in ai so ill ask here, I saw an old van like this way out in the backroads of california but it didn't have an engine cab on the front, just the slope down into the windows and very slab fronted. Ideas what it could have been? Never seen anything like it since.

International Harvester?

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# ¿ Jul 25, 2011 16:34

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Coredump posted:

The Scion xB thing still makes me laugh my rear end off at Toyota. I remember reading when they first brought over the xA and xB they thought the hatchback style xA would sell more than the xB. They were so off from their predicted sales targets that in the first year of selling the xB sold at almost 2 to 1 to the xA. Further more instead of attracting an audience of 20 something first time car buyers Scion were getting people in their 40's or 50's buying the thing so they didn't hit their target market either.

Thing was the xB was really just a Toyota bB (or Bb I don't loving know) brought over straight from Japan. When the US Scion design team redid the xB according to Scion's 3 or 4 year model refresh the xB got fat and ugly and now no one wants them any more and the used ones from 04 to 06 still sell for $10k for a car that was only $17k when it was new. They haven't dropped in value like a person would expect because the new ones suck so bad. Scion should have kept selling the first gen xB for twice as long as they did.

I had a 2009 xB (ex-wife took it) that was a really, really great car. It had amazing amounts of room, plenty of power for it's class, was comfortable, etc. I don't understand why people don't like them.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2011 17:29

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Internet Meme posted:

It took a car that was unique, tiny yet had a lot of space, and had amazing gas mileage, and turned into a car that was none of those. It now looks another compact, and the gas mileage is pretty mediocre for a subcompact.

You are wrong on every point.

It's still very unique, doesn't look like anything else, and has great mileage for what it is - a mini-minivan. It's not even a subcompact, for goodness sake - they stopped importing the bB (on the Yaris/Echo platform) as the xB and started importing the Corolla Rumion (a Corolla box with a Camry motor) as an xB instead.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2011 22:43

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Internet Meme posted:

That's exactly my point. Some of the best things about the original are exactly what they changed. The xB went from being a roomy subcompact to being a mini mini-van, just as you said. The appeal for many was the fact that it was a subcompact with ridiculous amounts of space. Now it's a glorified PT Cruzer/HHR.

That's a lot of glory.

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The car gets 24/28 mpg EPA which is mediocre at best. The Kia Soul, Nissan Cube, Ford Focus, tC, hell, even a Jetta wagon gets better gas mileage.

I'm glad you're happy with your car, but the second gen is the most stereotypically americanized car I've ever seen.

When I had it, I regularly got 31-32 mixed mileage. That's fine for something that I could completely fill with amplifiers and drums and still move at a brisk pace.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2011 02:09

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NOTinuyasha posted:

Brisk isn't a word I'd use to describe the first-gen xB. An Echo engine, in a car much bigger then an Echo, with the aerodynamics of a small house... Granted my only experience was a single test drive but drat that thing was slow.

2009 is second gen.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2011 06:56

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Throatwarbler posted:

The new Sonatas all want to turn left.

NASCAR influence.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2011 23:01

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Why?

# ¿ Aug 18, 2011 18:27

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

The tail-lights are thinner.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2011 18:59

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Keyser S0ze posted:

I can't remember the last time I've had to actually manually turn ON my headlights in any of my BMW's since 2000....people still have to do that?

My headlights turn on if it's even slightly foggy out and it has DRL's and if that isn't warning enough there are the Orion V2 angel eyes (turned all the way down with a rheostat since the fuckers are so bright)

I can't remember the last time I had to turn on my own headlights either.

In my 98 Isuzu.

:smug:

# ¿ Feb 2, 2012 16:54

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I like it. It reminds me of Ferrari in the 60s.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2012 05:01

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Throatwarbler posted:

How about an actual cool new car that we like, the FIAT 500L?

Notably the 500L will be the first product to come out of the Kragujevac plant that FIAT has just aquired from Zastava, the very same birthplace of the legendary Yugo! Who would have guessed that the Yugoslavian car industry will be returning triumphantly to the US under tutelage of FIAT and Chrysler?

Buying one. Yugos are getting very hard to find.

:tito:

# ¿ Mar 7, 2012 19:50

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I like it a lot. Just too bad we won't get a Panda Cross in the States. Though maybe we'll see this in the new Yugo.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2012 20:57

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Shame if they make the Liberty into just another car based CUV, though. It was never as good off road as the Cherokee, sure, but it's still a capable machine (with real 4WD!)

# ¿ May 29, 2012 18:18

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Cream_Filling posted:

Seriously, since when was Dodge Dart a cool name? When I hear "Dodge Dart," I think "rusted out shitheap" because that's the only experience anyone under the age of like 60 has had with the name.

When it's a Dodge Dart Swinger!

# ¿ Jun 22, 2012 16:30

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mattmofob posted:

The Fiat 500L is made in Serbia

At Zastava Automobili. :allears:

# ¿ Nov 29, 2012 19:03

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Cream_Filling posted:

Actually, how doe Seafoam work, exactly? Is it something you add to the fuel, or is it something you introduce directly into the air intake or something? Does it actually work, or is it just a fad?

Cool dudes do both.

Works like magic.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2012 20:19

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Really the thing to do is to drive cars but then have an old 3/4 ton truck with an 8 foot bed that you can toss firewood and engines in the back and tow big trailers and and load it up with hogs for market and give no fucks all day long.

:clint:

# ¿ Dec 13, 2012 19:32

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I had a Kia Rio hatch in the UK for two weeks last month and drove it from London to Iona and back, and was very impressed with everything about it.

Of course it had a 6-speed. :smug:

# ¿ Jun 5, 2013 19:35

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Snowdens Secret posted:

That doesn't look all that small. Still, at least it's out there as an option.

Small like the Dakota was small, I think. Which is to say, not small at all.

I just hope they keep the small diesel option that's rumored. If they do it would be the right new truck for me. Oh also if it has a proper sized cargo box and comes in standard cab. If it's short box four door only then no deal.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2013 00:57

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Weinertron posted:

I'm not convinced that they can make the new Colorado any cheaper at all than the half-tons. There are such huge economies of scale behind the F150, Chevy 1500, and Ram 1500, and I thought most of the reason the midsize truck market died was that for the same money, bigger trucks are more useful and more desirable. Especially by the time you get to the diesel, the Colorado has got to be the same price as an F150 with the 5.0.

They'll own the fleet market, though. Being able to sell on long term reliability and fuel economy will mean that you'll see a zillion W/T trim white painted Colorados with diesels in a few years.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2013 17:29

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I realize that I'm not the target market for the car, especially since I would never buy a Camaro.

But I would not pay 75K for a Camaro.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2014 00:14

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I've never had such an issue at a dealer. Scummy salesmen, terrible delays, etc. etc. But no matter the make, they're always hopping eager to get you out onto the road in whatever they have on the lot.

So anyway to change the subject to an actual new car, what the word on the new Volvo wagon, the V60 or whatever? The poverty spec one (not that that's really a thing in a Volvo) is a turbo four with plenty of go power and an 8 speed auto. Why am I not hearing more about this car?

# ¿ Jan 29, 2014 17:26

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KakerMix posted:

I kinda feel like I'm a part of "the problem" because because we're car shopping for my wife and we absolutely HATE CUVs but I see this, show her, and we both go 'Yeah this looks good'. I don't get how I can look at almost any other CUV and go 'gross!' but look at this and thumbs up. I suppose it's because she drives a Nissan Cube right now so the quirk works much like has already been stated.

If it doesn't come with a manual option though it's a no go, she demands a manual and a hatch or wagon which means we'll probably add another VW to the stable since they are the only ones offering.

_{_*ahem*}

# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 00:27

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Such a cool car. I'm sure it will be slow and terrible in curves, but that's not the point of a car like that. It is just a car with utility and economy to which great amounts of French style have been added.

We get precisely zero of those in the US, and if we did nobody would buy them. We are a shameful people in this regard.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2014 14:52

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PCOS Bill posted:

Buddy, that is balls to the walls ugly.

You probably don't like the Renault Dauphine, either. :wotwot:

# ¿ Mar 14, 2014 16:49

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Kenshin posted:

Pretty much, yeah.

It's crazy that it is fairly trivial to pick up a lightly-used (or even new-that-didn't-sell) 400+ hp car for ~$25k USD these days.

Wait which ones?

# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 18:50

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 06:29

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Twerk from Home posted:

At local dealers I've seen 2014 V8 Mustangs asking $28k, prices are getting low to make room for the 2015s. If you beat up a dealer and ran a bunch of cross quotes, I bet you could swing one for $26k.

Oh, Mustangs. I thought we were talking about desirable cars.

ducks

# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 19:13

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