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Gerund posted:The proper setting being "the caster-players being really good at playing the game terribly", or hitching your game up to the Railroad. How about not playing with min-maxing nerds instead.
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Gerund posted:But then you wouldn't be playing D&D. Good thing I play Pathfinder then.
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Dammit Who? posted:Banning caster classes seems like a drastic step. oh, you! 
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Father Wendigo posted:I'm brewing a setting that involves colonization of a new world, and I'm thinking about having abandoned battlements being part of the setting. From what you said in the post above, the Runelord series sounds great for some cherry picking. In addition, the Kingmaker series that got mentioned in here sounds like an idea mine as well. Well, if you try to run the game straight through it, there'd probably be some balance issues with the encounters... but if you're going to be just picking bits and pieces out, you'd probably be better off just grabbing equivalent monsters from the 4E Monster Manuals and generating equivalent NPC's in a character generator. Anyhoo, there's this: http://www.d20source.com/2009/06/dms-guide-to-converting-3e-adventures-to-4e
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Gerund posted:Chugga chugga choo choo all aboard the plot-o-rail. Please keep your minds and thoughts inside the previously-decided choices at all times. Enjoy playing through scripted quick-time events and random encounter rolls. You can't get there, thats only for the next disk. Assuming that failing the time limited scenario in question doesn't screw up the whole adventure, it would be proper to prepare for the possibility that the characters do not achieve the said goals in the given time frame. That's how I look at it. Unless you've been gaming with the same people for a very long time, you don't really know how well they're going to react to a given set of situations, so you should always take into account that they don't care and just want to burn the town down. But as far as a prewritten module goes, there are plenty of ways to reveal to the players/characters what course of action they should be taking and what is important, without going right out and saying "hey guys you need to do this cause thats the whole module". As for it being a method for dealing with spellcaster to melee balance issues, I think its quite proper to a point, as a common complaint from some spellcasters is not getting enough periods of rest to re queue their spells... and that's just part of the system. Well, if you're in the middle of an enemy stronghold with guards everywhere looking for the party... its not like the whole party is going to cram themselves into a closet for the night. The spellcasters will learn to be more frugal. Press on. (To add to that, there's nothing stopping the whole party from insisting on trying to camp for the night, but I'll definitely leave it up to the dice to see whether they're discovered. And if they have a limited amount of time, there will of course, be consequences. That's just DMing 101.) mixitwithblop fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Feb 24, 2010 |
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Gerund posted:I'm not against time-limited adventures at all. But if the adventure doesn't have ramifications for failing to beat the time limit, then there isn't really a time limit at all, is there? And following that, one of the best ways to include possible ramifications into the game is to have the players face losing an NPC or building that they invested time and emotion into- such as in the middle of a larger campaign. Unless you're throwing world-ending plots during the first level, characters really don't have much invested in Jimmy the Prince beyond the reward. Oh, I wouldn't go as far to say that you can't have a time limited quest theme right off the bat... i think that would work if done right. I mean, you basically get that at Con one shot games in which they're slotted for a specific period of time. Although in theory that's a difference case(real world limit, not in game), it does tend to bleed off and you obviously don't have adventures spanning weeks of in game time, short of basically going "three weeks pass by" etc... In fact, one complaint I've seen of Pathfinder Society scenarios from spellcasters is specifically not having rest periods to reload on spells. Obviously the situation is different in a home game campaign... and yeah, it's something to throw in there now and then, but not as a general story mechanic... But as before, rather than making it quest based, I prefer to do the same but make it situational based... as I mentioned before with the "camping here is unadvised" line of thought, it could lead to an additional unwanted encounter. IE, the party isn't going to bed after after couple of encounters. If you're storming a stronghold or some such it really doesn't make sense to shack up and go to bed for 6 hours, unless you've basically torn the place to pieces already. Again, you don't force the players to make this decision, but if they're say... being pursued by very intent supernatural enemies, they would definitely be betting against the house on a roll.
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Erik Mona at NeoCon 09 Talking about Paizo, OGL vs 4E licensing, the future of PnP games(focusing on the relation to technology), and misc topics(his history in gaming). Fairly interesting regardless of what PnP you play. Just to warn ya, its 1 hr long.  One interesting thing he says is "Paizo is developing 3 Iphone apps for the Pathfinder Role Playing Game. Those should be released relatively shortly." "One of the apps is called the Live Character Sheet..." Apparently it works networked, and you can say, cast bless and select the other characters and everyone's iphone gets updated... "4E is better" \  
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RagnarokAngel posted:That apps kinda cool if everyone has iphones otherwise it seems a bit lost. A laptop app might be nice, more people have those. It does sound cool, but from the perspective somebody who doesn't own an Iphone and has no big desire to play a game with one, it seems super niche... and I'm rather surprised they don't just license this sort of thing out instead of trying to do it in-house. If the apps end up being so bad rear end that they convince people to go out and buy iphones/ipads just to run them, then job well done... but if they're just 'cool if you have one already', it makes me wonder... It's peaked my interest, but that's all.
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Gerund posted:iPhone Apps are another step on the predestined path of RPGs being squandered into the Model Train hobby ghetto. I'm sorry that fat fucks with a pirate goatee think that they are being at all "innovative" by making the game more and more dependent on mid-adult spending limits. *cough*cough*errrwarhammererrrr*cough* 
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My gut tells me that its a bad idea for a publisher to get in the software business, but then again, maybe the software will be really great... I'm rather curious as to what the two other products are... Recently there has been some news of a mystery product from Lone Wolf: http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=9398 Lone Wolf has been talking about adding the Bestiary and new player class data sets to Hero Lab... they also hinted at a bit more(above). And yet now it seems things are delayed until they have more 'talks' with Paizo. http://forums.wolflair.com/showpost.php?p=36174&postcount=31 It just surprises me that some mystery product that has White Wolf blabbing about it on their front page doesn't seem to interest Paizo too much... I wonder if Paizo is giving third party devs the run around because they've got some of their own stuff up their sleeve. yeah. My guesses: Monster app and combat app(along the same lines as the character sheet deal). mixitwithblop fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Feb 26, 2010 |
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mixitwithblop posted:Lone Wolf has been talking about adding the Bestiary and new player class data sets to Hero Lab... they also hinted at a bit more(above). And yet now it seems things are delayed until they have more 'talks' with Paizo. Guess I spoke too soon on some of that... http://forums.wolflair.com/showpost.php?p=36325&postcount=2 "The playtest classes are mostly implemented at this point and will be made available in the next week or two." "We're striving to have the Bestiary add-on released by Friday, March 19th."
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Angry Diplomat posted:there are tons of people still playing 3.5 because they love the system. there are tons of people playing pathfinder because they love the system. repeat for every other edition. a lot of grognards cried at wotc because they wanted 4e to be exactly like 3.5 but with minor updates, so paizo saw that and went, "oh hey we can capitalize on this" and made exactly that. While that rationality is true to an extent, I'd like to note that an even greater influence on this decision was WoTC abandoning the Open Games License for the newer GSL. In fact, a rather large and vocal proponent of Paizo's system have been freelance writers who were previously publishing stuff for Goodman Games and similar third party supplement companies, as well as the in print versions of Dragon and Dungeon. And although Goodman Games has gone on to 4E, many of those same writers have stopped writing for them simply because they don't want to be limited to that restrictive license(as well as a seeming dislike to the system). A portion of those same authors have written a good amount of the material contained in Pathfinder Companion supplements, Pathfinder Chronicles supplements, and Pathfinder Society modules, as well as articles in Kobold Quarterly. Paizo simply has a large number of excellent writers and the fans know it. mixitwithblop fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Feb 27, 2010 |
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Tolan posted:Well, the whole game is basically available for free if you're OK with not having printed books. The Pathfinder Reference Document is complete, unlike the d20 SRD (which lacked a few things like XP tables, as I recall). So you can certainly start with that. The PDF version is also only $10 if you want the art, too, and don't mind a digital format. And if you're a real cheap rear end, the PF SRD website was converted to a nice two column PDF awhile back: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/downloads/PFRPG_SRD.pdf I actually tend to use it now and then as except for certain Paizo copyrighted material, its practically a 1 for 1 to the Core Rulebook... and the Core Rulebook PDF is like some kind of graphical beast from hell and views like molasses on even my gaming box. There's some other nice downloads here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/downloads The Game Screen is somewhat useful as a reference sheet. There's a PDF of the Monster SRD as well. mixitwithblop fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Feb 27, 2010 |
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happyelf posted:The problem with the GSL wasn't 'THEY CONTROL US' or any of thsat hysteria bullshit. The problem was a genuinly horrible clause in the original GSL that forbade a company from publishing or even selling OGL products while they also had GSL products. I think you're ignoring several other fundamental differences between the GSL and OGL keeping many 3rd party publishers away from it... even with the revised version. These are current unless they've revised the GSL again in the last few months. 1. WoTC reserves the right to modify the agreement at any time. Hence, if they make a change you don't want to agree to, well you can no longer distribute your product. 2. You can't just slap the GSL license on your product and ship it. You have to deal with WoTC directly before attempting to publish your product. 3. WoTC reserves the right to terminate your license at any time. WoTC also reserves the right to terminate the GSL completely, in which you case you get a whopping six months to sell your stock and then its done. 4. You basically can't redefine almost anything that's in the core rulebooks. All those cool d20 based custom gameworld products? Gone! You can't describe character creation or advancement at all. It's their way, or the highway.
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A new episode of Know Direction, a Pathfinder RPG podcast, is out: http://www.35privatesanctuary.com/podcasts/KD007-wayfinderandbulmahn.mp3 Starts with some stuff on Wayfinder Magazine #2, and then an interview with Jason Bulmahn on the Advanced Player's Guide.
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Well, no OGL vs GSL argument is complete without mentioning this for the billionth time. What does that have to do with the GSL you say? It has to do with the attitude of the company that crafted it and what kind of shenanigans they are capable of... I'm not saying that the GSL is unreasonable, especially in the context of copyright issues in the pre WoTC days... But leaving the OGL for the GSL is like getting married to that hot chick that already used to give up the goods everyday. It's all cool at first cause man, YOU BAGGED HER YEAH, but then she's all "you can never look at porn again" and one day, it's "Oh, by the way, no more blowjobs, ever."
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PeterWeller posted:Is this another one of those retarded, "look at how evil WotC is; you should play PF instead" arguments? No, its purely in the context of OGL/GSL. ~ Sorry, I assumed we were all manly non virgin nerds here. My bad. So how about them kenders, ha-ha. 
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If you want to turn this into another slap boxing thread, carry on. If you don't want to read my plainly idiotic posts, I suggest not clicking on this thread anymore. ~ In actual topic related news, Tyler Wadpole released the cover he did for the Pathfinder Free RPG Day module, Master of the Fallen Fortress: 
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Mikan posted:Hopefully this won't ignite another shitstorm because I'm genuinely curious, when they talked about the Pathfinder app did they mention a release date or even a rough estimate? I ended up getting someone's old ipod touch as a gift when they upgraded to a new model so I'll probably buy the drat thing just to see what kind of cool stuff it can do. The good news: quote:Erik Mona // February 28, 2010 at 7:16 pm | Reply The dumb news: quote:I’m also not sure if the networking feature will be part of the Live Character Sheet on launch. In the time since that keynote it’s become much clearer to me which features would be part of the app and which would be in development for later down the road, and I think the networking part is in the latter category, alas.
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Quill posted:Obviously the dudes just pulled a quick one and stole away with the lizard shamans holy thingamabob trinket. Adventurers got Feather Fall. They'll be fine. Maybe not. That's not a wizard, but an oracle. New divine class.
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So Hero Lab got updated to v3.6 and the Pathfinder dataset has been updated as well... http://www.wolflair.com/index.php?context=hero_lab&page=pathfinder_roleplaying_game It now includes 5 of the new base classes, and stuff from the Council of Thieves Adventure Path. Full list of changes here: http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=9938 The last new base class, the Summoner, and The Bestiary pack is supposed to be released later this month.
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mixitwithblop posted:So Hero Lab got updated to v3.6 and the Pathfinder dataset has been updated as well... Well, the Lone Wolf guys are on the friggin ball. Less than a week later and they've released the next Pathfinder update. In addition to the Summoner class, altering the UI to support netbook screens, & various bug fixes, it now supports Kingmaker as well. The Bestiary data pack has been delayed to early April though.
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Danhenge posted:Please describe to me a non-magical way to fly. non magical flying mount
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RPG Superstar Winner... http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/tags/rPGSuperstar Matt Goodall with Cult of the Ebon Destroyers quote:Now is the time to bring down the Ebon Destroyers!
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Apparently Paizo is looking for GM volunteers at Paizocon and Gencon: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5law5 I don't think they're offering much for volunteers at Paizocon, but I did notice they're offering free four day badges for Gencon and then some. In other news, the Game Mastery Guide is apparently done. I'm really wondering whether its more or less the 3.5E DMG 1 & 2 combined(minus material already printed in the core rules), but 'Pathfinderized', or what. 
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happyelf posted:I'm actually interested in seeing what's in that book since there was literally no gming advice in their core rule book. Maybe the guide will feature how to convert 4E to Pathfinder: quote:Advanced GM techniques such as fixing a "broken" game, using accessories, converting content from other systems, using props and handouts, when to "cheat," and how to prep a game from scratch in 15 minutes Hmm.. prep a game in 15 min. "So ur in a cave and a buncha dudes grab their swords. Oh poo poo a wizardzzzz!"
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RagnarokAngel posted:That's the same stuff that's been in every dnd DMG since forever. Woo exciting. Well, I don't think the idea is to try to be ground breaking or anything. Seems it's really more about just filling in the missing bits. The full blurb from the product page: quote:# The Pathfinder RPG GameMastery Guide includes: Campaign basics such as choosing a tone, getting players together (and working together), and guidelines to establish exciting narrative techniques Nothing new really, just a Paizo/Pathfinder take on it all.
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Mikan posted:This has been by choice though. I'm okay with not seeing these things. It's almost not even necessary...   Valeros' will is so low, he just can't help grabbin some fine elf booty.
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Paizocon is less than a month away: http://paizo.com/paizocon Event schedule and signup: http://paizo.com/paizocon/events
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Tolan posted:Anyone going to attend? I'm running some PFS sessions there. I was all up and ready to go, but various events have prevented that. If anybody is near Seattle and wants to go, I can gift you the ticket. In others news, the Advanced Players Guide cover has been released: 
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Vulpes posted:Don't worry, it's probably a druid. Actually, I think it's the witch's familiar... and essentially the source of all her spells...
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Tactical Bonnet posted:Thanks for that. Looks like I'm going to be asking my DM is I can reroll my wizard into a Summoner. Look here too: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/advanced-player-s-guide-playtest
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The only thing Paizo has on the drawing board is some suite of apps for the Iphone/Ipad. Haven't heard anything about it for months... probably a long way off. Hero Lab is tops. The UI is sensible. You can create a character in a few minutes, easy. They update it constantly, sometimes within a few days of a new book being out. Was worth the  I spent on it. PCGen is ok if you're broke cause you spend all your money on  or whatever. The UI pisses me off though. One thing that's nice about it, is that it has the entire Bestiary in the data files. Hero Lab offers that for another  .~ Oh, thought I'd mention that SORD has been updated for Pathfinder. It's basically a 36 page condensed quick reference rulebook. I don't have it yet, as it only covered the beta up till now, but I'll probably get it sometime. I don't know how useful it'd be if you're used to gaming with a laptop(you can just use the SRD), but it's probably better than looking stuff up in the rulebook. http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=81817
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FYI, Paizo.com has a 10% off whole order code going until the end of Jan. Still cheaper to buy stuff off Amazon or whatever, but it's something if you prefer to order directly as they obviously get stuff sooner... such as the Bestiary 2 that just came out which most retailers won't get for another week or so. PDF will be avail on Weds. ~ The OP is in need of an update. Suggested changes/additions: The core books have expanded... we now have the Advanced Player's Guide, The GameMastery Guide, Bestiary 2, and soon to be released Ultimate Magic. Playtests are available for download, one of which is a new base class, the Magus. The Golarion Campaign guide is out of print and being rereleased with new/edited content next year: Inner Sea World Guide. Also, a Player's guide to the setting is now available: Inner Sea Primer. A line of fiction books based on the Golarion setting have been added to the product line, Pathfinder Tales. Herolab is now the only officially licensed character gen software package for Pathfinder. You also now have the privilege of sinking more money into it via addon packs with data sets from just about every book. D20Pro now supports import from the Hero Lab Bestiary add on. Mindgene is looking at selling prepackaged campaign packs... possibly for Paizo AP modules, which would be pretty awesome. The Pathfinder wiki at Wikia has been 'abandoned' and everyone has moved to http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/ There is now another Pathfinder podcast at http://www.justiceradio.net/podcast/ I think it's also worth adding Kobold Quarterly as its pretty much the only print magazine that covers Pathfinder stuffs.
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Just wanted to chime in that I just picked up the updated SORD for Pathfinder and it owns. Takes all encounter related rules from the core rulebook and condenses it into a easy to read document. The pages are mostly self contained. Pretty drat cool. However, looking at all these rules kind of made me pine for oldschool non mini/map D&D combat... was talking to my DM buddy and he's decided to run his next campaign using Labyrinth Lord . Should be a lot of fun. Combat was always so quick and deadly in red/blue box.
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Paizo posted:Paizo Publishing announced today that open playtesting for Ultimate Combat, a new hardcover rulebook for the smash-hit Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, is now underway. The playtest introduces three new 20-level classes: the gunslinger, ninja, and samurai; in addition to new feats and simple firearm rules. The playtest cycle will last for three weeks, until Monday, February 14th. I find the inclusion of a gunslinger class kind of odd considering I've heard a lot of folks from Paizo mentioning how they disliked the inclusion of that non magic gunpowderish country in the main campaign. A while back there was even talk that the new Inner Sea guide would excise or heavily modify that section. Playtest: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/v5748btpy8igw
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Kvantum posted:Now the question here is can Ryan Dancey create a working MMO or not. Sadly, my money is on the "no" as well. While I agree that a VTT would make more sense for their current customer base, I think you guys are being more negative than things warrant. There seems to be a lot of self proclaimed experts on how an MMO can be successful. I would point out that a number of MMO launches that have been successful have been done by companies and teams that had no prior titles to their credit. Dancey seemed to have no problems as the marketing director at CCP. Whether that experience will translate into that of a CEO for an MMO developer remains to be seen... I would think you would generally want the head to be have experience in software development, not just marketing. If I recall, CCP's CEO is a former coder. Apparently, so is Dancey, albeit his resume doesn't show any online game dev experience. ProfessorCirno posted:They literally don't have any experience whatsoever with any sort of video game programming. At all. None. And they're jumping into making their own MMORPG. MadScientistWorking posted:Actually in their defense they have a guy who worked on City of Heroes and for some strange reason also on the World of Darkness MMO. Mark Kalmes seems pretty well qualified to work on this project. He worked on City of Heroes, was a lead coder on City of Villains, and was the coding manager for Champions Online. As for his work on WoD, he left that 2 years ago, so he at least has a history of knowing when something is not going right. If anything, that should show he wouldn't sign on with Paizo if it was simply a pipe dream. He obviously has the experience to put a team together. mixitwithblop fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Nov 23, 2011 |
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