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Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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Nebakenezzer posted:

At about 0:50 this Starfighter howls like the mating call of a satanic deer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozIRwMhRVRY

Hahaha, that's hysterical.

My favorite blue note has to be the Mustang's created by the air intake. It's like the Stuka's siren but unintentional and loving incredible

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Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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CharlesM posted:

Umm that's the end of "In The Flesh?" by Pink Floyd.

It's the actual siren, though.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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The Locator posted:

Some great pictures, but that isn't a P51, it's a P40 isn't it?

Yup. It's missing the sexy air scoop, and the intake is right below the prop.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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Speaking of airships, remember that one time they strapped 4 H-34s to a helium envelope and thought it would work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7jENWKgMPY
That was fun...

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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CharlesM posted:

I think the reality is it means it crashed or was destroyed but they haven't found the wreckage.

From what I understand, it went missing over the ocean. If Air France Flight 447 is to be of any relevance, it might take a while to find/recover anything

e:
The landing in China story is untrue

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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Oil slick's been found


e:
I guess that'd be an avgas slick, but the news is calling it oil

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Feb 8, 2014

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Captain Postal posted:

The real problem with finding AF447 was that it landed in an undersea mountain range, so the search vessel had to be pretty much exactly over the top of it to detect it. I don't think that is as much of an issue in the Gulf of Thailand and that area of the South China Sea

Gulf of Thailand is like 45-70m deep. A lot shallower than AF447

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Feb 8, 2014

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Tsuru posted:


I have seen a screenshot from a flight tracking website somewhere that it had squawked 7700 before contact was lost.
Can you provide a source of this? I'll check my automated 7700 sources to find anything, too. If this is the case I guess that starts making bombs less likely. Unless it was a lovely bomb, of course

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Feb 8, 2014

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Hm... That's the only source I can find. Nothing automated (twitter bots/RSS feeds etc) or google shows anything else.

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Feb 8, 2014

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Apparently a 777 bound for Narita acted as a relay for MH370. So that's both that airbase in Thailand and this plane that had contact with it up to/after the emergency.

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Feb 8, 2014

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Powercube posted:

There was a company A330 operating KUL-KIX that was an hell of a lot closer to MH370- why did Vietnamese control not ask them?

Can't get a link to the source since I'm on my phone, but I'm pretty sure PZFeed said officials confirmed that the pilot's story was fake.

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Feb 8, 2014

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EightBit posted:

I think it's a 30 minute loop, but don't quote me on it.

That's what the magnetic ones were. I dunno what they are now/if it's still magnetic

E:
Wiki saves the day

quote:

A standard CVR is capable of recording 4 channels of audio data for a period of 2 hours

Spaced God fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 10, 2014

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

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smackfu posted:

Disregarding airplane mode and all that, could a passenger carry-on something to an airplane that would work at altitude and allow them to be personally tracked? Or maybe like a personal EPIRB?

What passenger would carry an EPIRB with them on a 777ER?

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Feb 8, 2014

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bull3964 posted:

My dad used to fly a lot for business and he told me that one airline (can't remember which one) actually had all the radio chatter on one of the headphone channels and he would listen to it all the time.

I know that was on a United flight I was on a while back. It's usually in the older planes with the radios mounted in the seats rather than the TVs

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Feb 8, 2014

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My friend's trying to convince me that terrorists hijacked 370 and are fitting it with a WMD.
I'll stick with hypoxia, thank you very much.

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Feb 8, 2014

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Malaysia saying the jet was hijacked :tinfoil:

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Luneshot posted:



Oh good, I thought we had lost it forever!

:ms:

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Slo-Tek posted:

General Dynamics A-12 Flying Dorito got cancelled with a few billion spent and no metal bent (or was it?!?), and had a flat back. The aeronerds I follow allege that Boeing also had a less-scalloped trailing edge flying wing that might have got a couple built quiet-like.

What benefit would that be over a smaller (yet similar), unmanned design though?

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Wild EEPROM posted:

And a detailed test of airline boarding and safety procedures before being allowed to enter a plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHooBjxmoXQ

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PzFeed (source https://twitter.com/PzFeed/status/489977709037375488 ) posted:

BREAKING NEWS: 100+ of Worlds Leading AIDS Researchers & Activists were aboard MH17.

:smith:

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Feb 8, 2014

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Sorry I'm late on the V-22 party, I was busy hanging out in one:



Saw it fly twice, as well. loving awesome thing.

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Feb 8, 2014

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Slo-Tek posted:

There is a WB-57 at Oshkosh right now. Kinda wishing I had gone, would have been cool to see, and I could take a better picture than the stuff showing up on the airventure page.

Take your pick:



It's a phone so it's not professional-grade, but I hope it works.
Thing's loving huge. So cool to see it come in.

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Feb 8, 2014

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F-16 is the only true fighter jet in my heart if we're going on looks alone.

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Sagebrush posted:

Well, if there's anything that could take down a tornado, it'd be a GAU-8.

If that could stop a tornado, then what would a GSh-6-30 stop? :stare:

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Mazz posted:

In the MiG-27s case, this generally includes large, important parts of the cockpit and landing gear.

I love telling those stories of the times when the entire loving instrument panel came off because someone fired a burst for too long. How do you recover from that, I wonder?

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Feb 8, 2014

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evil_bunnY posted:

With the ejection handle

Good thing that didn't fall off!

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Terrible Robot posted:

Beaten but, uh, I would definitely like to know more.

StandardVC10 posted:

Oh man I haven't heard about that one.

quote:

On 12 January 1968, four North Vietnamese Air Force AN-2 Colt biplanes lifted off from an airfield in northeastern North Vietnam and headed west toward Laos. The aircraft were on a mission to destroy a US radar base that was guiding bombers in attacks against targets in North Vietnam. Known to the Americans as Site 85, the radar facility was perched atop a 5,800-foothigh mountain, Phou Pha Thi. Manned by US Air Force volunteers “sheepdipped” as employees of the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation, the site had been in operation only a few months. The mountain, used for many years as a staging base for CIA-directed Hmong guerilla fighters and American special operations and rescue helicopters, was only 125 nautical miles from Hanoi. Air America, a CIA-proprietary, provided aerial support for the facility, the technicians, and the security forces.

The Colts reached Site 85 early in the afternoon, and two began bombing and strafing passes as the others circled nearby. Coincidentally, Air America captain Ted Moore, flying a UH-1D Huey helicopter carrying ammunition to the site, saw the attack (“It looked like World War I,” he recalled.) and gave chase to a Colt as it turned back to the Vietnamese border. Moore positioned his helicopter above the biplane, as crewman Glenn Woods fired an AK-47 rifle down on it. The pursuit continued for more than 20 minutes until the second AN-2 flew underneath the helicopter. Dropping back, Moore and Woods watched as the first AN-2 dropped and crashed into a ridge just west of the North Vietnamese border. Minutes later, the second Colt hit the side of a mountain three miles farther north. The other Colts escaped, inactive observers throughout. Within hours a CIA-controlled ground team reached the crashed aircraft and found bullet holes in the downed planes.

In the mists of the Annamite Mountains and part of a secret war, Air America employees Ted Moore and Glenn Woods gained the distinction of having shot down a fixed-wing aircraft from a helicopter, a singular aerial victory in the Vietnam War. Two months later, North Vietnamese commandos attacked and destroyed Site 85, inflicting the deadliest single ground loss of US Air Force personnel of the Vietnam War.

On 27 July 2007, CIA officially received An Air Combat First in an event attended by members of the Air America Board; pilot Ted Moore; Sawang Reed, the wife of flight mechanic Glenn Woods; CIA paramilitary legend Bill Lair; and the donors of the painting, former Air America officers Marius Burke and Boyd D. Mesecher

A++ Vietnam

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Eej posted:

Still not as happy as the happiest variant.



:haw:

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Aerial refuelling can be scary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGQDA6MKvkM
:stare:

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Colonial Air Force posted:

...with a good quarter.

:golfclap:

Also, to not blankquote, we have some Avanti II's at my airport. Cool as gently caress planes. And just to make Inacio jealous:

Okay that was taken at Oshkosh but it's still the same thing

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Madurai posted:

There's one that operates out of Oakland regularly. You can always tell when it's taking off by the sound.

I was talking to one of the tower guys recently, and he said that one of the new controllers on the job had a hard time patterning everyone because she didn't understand faster traffic goes first. Imagine her surprise when this thing enters Class D at 350 kts and goes over the numbers at 180 :v

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hobbesmaster posted:

180?! Thats century fighter deathtrap territory.

He said 170 or 180. Doesn't surprise me, really. That thing doesn't look like it can possibly go slow.

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Feb 8, 2014

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Superuser008 posted:

"No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to fly!"

FLY!

Spaced God fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Sep 2, 2014

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Feb 8, 2014

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Did the Navy push for fighter aircraft to ditch guns in favor of the totally reliable (not) sidewinders and AA/AG missiles and the promptly got their rear end handed to them by MiGs in Korea? Or was that mainly the Air Force?

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Gorilla Salad posted:

I knew Oshkosh made trucks, never knew it was an actual town :downs:

It's not just a town, it's host to the largest Fly-in and airshow in the world (citation needed)

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Feb 8, 2014

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Crossposted from the F-35 thread in GBS for those of you not following that:
"[...]that fan-blade system just cracked too much, the whole circular part of that engine — through centrifugal force — stretched out and became a spear; that spear went up through the left aft fuselage of the fuel tank and it was the fuel tank that caused the fire."

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Skreemer posted:

Anyone into Air Racing. The RedBull Air Race stopped off in DFW this weekend:

planes

Here's the album:
https://picasaweb.google.com/115758916632133870662/2014DFWRedBullAirRace?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMK82d-j067_bQ&feat=directlink

I was at the RBAR when they went to NYC for the only time. That was so loving cool, but it sucks that they never came back (understandable though; they probably lost so much money to do it)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPedHJNQNUM
:aaa:

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YF19pilot posted:

What plane is that, looks to be 'marking' where to drop the load? Looks like some kind of twin ala 410 or a Seminole.

Usually lead planes are either King Airs or Aero Commander 500s.

Edit

Ardeem posted:

Quoted for fire bomber pilots are insane. (And send more, the entire state is slightly on fire. :ca:)

My brother isn't a pilot, but he's one of the ground guys helping you guys out. You guys are going to be just fine :gbsmith:

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Speaking of airplane pictures, this is my office for the weekend.

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