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dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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blambert posted:

More James May stuff. This one makes him officially the luckiest man on earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6cZLfK4Zjk

What the gently caress... the pilot is wearing glasses??!?! Since when was that allowed :psyduck:

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dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Bulk Vanderhuge posted:

My God, that is amazing. How many Mustangs are in civilian hands now? And why aren't there more full sized replicas around?

One of the people in the neighborhood my parents live in has as Mustang and three engines on a rotating shift. I am not sure if he still flys the thing these days but I know he used to use it very frequently up until the time I left the Racine, WI area a few years ago. Basically to handle the rebuild/hour requirements without hanving any downtime he has one in the plane, one finished in his garage, and the other in pieces in his basement being rebuilt. When I was working on wiring their house up for LAN I remember seeing the crankshaft from that beast and being all :monocle:

One of the funny stories I found out about him was how he frequently did daily/weekly flights from our hometown airport just to tour around. After 9/11 when Bush was in town he left on an unscheduled trip and when he came back to land he was escorted away by angry F16's because he was trying to land during a restricted time while Air Force One was on the field. Didn't get in trouble for that at all and from what I gather they had a big laugh when he finally landed. Probably has something to do with him being in his 70's :v:

I need to get some pictures of that thing sometime or at least the engine parts he has filling up his HUGE basement.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Wombot posted:

So correct me if I'm wrong here, but he says 1 mile every 1.6 seconds. That's 5760 mph, or mach 7.5 at Sea Level (8.64 @ 85,000 feet).

Mach 7.5.

I want to say he might have embellished a bit on that speed.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Nam Taf posted:

I have cool wall-of-text information that can keep bored AI readers busy for hours!

Good god man post these details!

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR
So who is the go-to place for piston aircraft engine these days?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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What is the average military pilot worth? I figure from a basic training/skill standpoint there has to be some sort of value places on their lives. This also plays into the next question.

What generally happens when a plane is crashed in the military. Is the entire playing field level... aka crashing an old prop cargo plane has the same disciplinary action as crashing say a brand new F22 or B2 bomber? Is anyone ever giving a pass for a stupid mistake or are you basically hosed no matter who you are when you down an aircraft?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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slidebite posted:

I don't think it's likely to get a pass for a stupid mistake, but if it is a mechanical failiure (like this one appears to be) I really hope they give him a pat on the back more than anything. There is pretty much no possible worse time for an engine to have problems than when it did for this guy. Low speed, low altitude, high alpha pass doing around 120. Yikes.

How do militaries justify the costs of airshows and other times when planes go down for no other reason then showing off maneuvers. Are most classified as training missions and thus not really losing a plane while playing around?

Maybe its just that most normal training exercises aren't publicized, but airshows and the like seem to bring out most defects that cause crashes just by the amount of stress or crazy stuff they are doing. Doesn't anyone ever get mad when they go all "hey this airshow brought in like 40,000 in ticket sales but we lost a X million dollar aircraft" :v:

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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slidebite posted:

Recruiting tool and make the public aware/proud/open to fund/whatever the military. It's quite valuable, actually.

AFAIK, ticket sales at an airshow like this do not share revenue to the military, even foreign powers. This airshow for example, usually has US Military demos and static displays.

I was joking about the ticket sales going to pay for the planes :lol:

This stuff just fascinates me. Any ideas what the yearly loss figures are that are estimated for equipment failures or negligence?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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So basically you are telling me that they lied in Battlefield Earth with those Harriers :cry:

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

Ola posted:

Don't think this has been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp2Uc9XvmjY

Legend Bob Hoover shows us a perfectly coordinated roll. And his slick skills of course.

Was I the only goon hoping that amber liquid was a fresh cold beer?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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slidebite posted:

Just in case I guess?

Someones jacking the hot dog booth.... roger... engaged...

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR
Aren't most engines designed to blow up and stay *within* the casing?

Like I remember watching someone's test video of like a brick or explosion on the first fan, and the entire thing blowing apart, but staying within the case. Anyone remember what engine that plane was on being tested?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Colonel K posted:

Gabriel is back at it. Prepare for a somewhat dissapointing test run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-_dsNTZch0&

Man... even with a perfectly smooth, slight downhill runway that thing would barely get enough speed to take weight off that front tire :(

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Godholio posted:

Shiiiit. Never a good sign when a plane just disappears.

Serously... I can understand a 2-4 passenger private plane, but a military fighter with bleeding-state-of-art computer tracking, etc. I would think they would have to the second tracking of any of these worldwide.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Linedance posted:

that's not even the worst of it:

Click here for the full 1109x770 image.

I don't know if Airbus has a repair scheme for spar damage that bad, my guess is that airplane is scrap.

In a modern airplane how much can you unbolt? Could they just replace that wing, or maybe both in a matching pair?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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2ndclasscitizen posted:

Wouldn't the fact that the 380 wings are made elsewhere, and then shipped in and fitted indicate QANTAS would be able to get the damaged one removed and replaced?

Yea but technically speaking the aluminum is probably also dug up someplace else and shipped in too :v:. If stuff is welded or put together in an odd one-time fashion it might not be possible.

Who foots the bill on this if it turns out it was 100% RR's fault?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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sandoz posted:

I want to know more about the camera that got that tracking shot of the projectile flying at Mach 7 after it left the building.

Someone said high speed camera on a fixed tripod pointed at a rotating mirror with preset speed/location tracking.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

Nebakenezzer posted:

They have, though it seems like China usually sources the engines from Russia.

As for getting all the subsystems working, do you suppose the Chinese saw the F-22/F-35 programs and decided to keep avionics and other subsystems fairly conventional?

Outside of the nutty secret radar and guidance stuffs, isnt a huge part of modern avionics about keeping the flying hulk of metal in the air? I was pretty sure most jets need computer assistance otherwise they plummet out of control in a firey doom?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Nerobro posted:

FS4. I still have it.

:allears: Only in that flight sim was I able to recreate the flying shape of the bat plane.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

Minto Took posted:

The old diesel carriers were something like 12 ft/gal.

:911: Man thank god for nuclear powered ships.

Has anyone ever made a nuclear powered car and put it into service? Some testing car just to see how long it would last under normal conditions?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Minto Took posted:

Ford Nucleon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon

Were any actually made though? I know the concept has been floating around for a while.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

blambert posted:

Anyone want a Harrier?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140508652633&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3794wt_951

I can't explain how much I would love to have this.

:smug:

gently caress that, how about you guy a working one instead:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998...torsQ5fAircraft

:fap:

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

Revolvyerom posted:

What am I even looking at here?

Someone used a g-sensing dyno app on an iphone or something designed for cars on a loving airplane.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

So whats the damage costs on those two planes going to be like? Also how the hell did the Air France guys not see the parked/stationary puddle jumper? Are normal taxing events that close in proximity to other aircraft?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

MrChips posted:

They'll probably be scrapped, sadly. They're too big for any museum, and since they've been modified so extensively it would cost far too much to return them to their originally certified condition, especially considering both SCAs are 747-100s (one is formerly a 747SR, but that is essentially a -100 anyways) and have little commercial value these days.

Local airport near my family's house has some huge NASA prop plane parked out front... someone will probably have a place for it.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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ApathyGifted posted:

Only when they're sitting close to the axis of rotation.

In a blended wing body, passengers can be more than 40 feet away from the axis of rotation, so every time you bank they get dropped/elevated a good bit. A person will feel that even at much slower banking speeds. Turns during cruise would probably still be unnoticed, but any turning at all during departure or approach is going to make passengers out near the edges motion sick. (And the ones on the inside of the turn are going to start screaming because they'll feel like they're dropping hundreds of feet.)

I just realized that would feel awesome, especially during the heavy lean departures. Hell I might even pay extra for one of those seats.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR
Is that guts I see splattered in that dent?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

Ola posted:

It says the lineman disconnected from the line, was he riding with the helicopter at the time? I wonder how they are trained to react to an engine failure. As you say, they are deep into the coffin corner and when an engine failure happens, everyone has to work quickly and together to crash as softly as possible. Perhaps a huge red light for rotor speed or something.

Yea the part connected was probably that grounding strap thing. On all of the videos I have seen they stick out a metal rod, sparks fly, and they clamp to the line. It was probably the clamp being yanked off quickly.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Aero737 posted:

And Lets see what our communist friends came up with in the east..:ussr:


The Tu-154 Deathmachine. So lovely that the NATO code name is actually Careless.


Yak-42

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/09/07/russia.plane.crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

lovely thing to happen, but I just noticed the Yak-42 mentioned and instantly remembered this thread. :(

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Now I can tell that the scale of that plane seems incredibly off in the photos. Does someone have similar angle photos of modern US/Russian fighters with a pilot in them to show just how small that plane looks? I'm almost getting an octopussy jet vibe from that thing :v:

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Going through some of the CNN comments (some painfully bad) this one stuck out:

As a commercial pilot here is my theory:
Preface: Please note that the Displaced Threshold for 28L has recently been moved, I.e. the runway has recently been shortened since its last paving. This is evidenced by the "blacked out" old Threshold markings on the current runway surface along with the newly painted markings. You can vision the old markings and the original Threshold markings if you Google Map it. The FAA presumably moved the Threshold recently due to concerns of a runway incursion as a taxiway to 28R crossed the old Threshold (with a stop line on the old taxiway).
1. Its possible that the Korean Asiatic Airlines did NOT have the updated Threshold posistion in the Inertial Nav. IF the aircraft was using the autopilot to fly the approach using th "old" data the pilots may have recognized they were going to land short and tried to correct by raising the nose and/or adding power. At the landing speed and approach attitude the engines may not have had time to respool up and the plane may have stalled or may have "mushed" and the sink rate may have increased and caused them to smack the tail on the breakwall.
2. If hand flying the aircraft the pilots may have been unfamiliar with the new Displaced Threshold and may have tried the same correction as outlined above. They may have also been reacting to the proximity of the United 747 to the Displaced Threshold on the taxiway and may have thought it was not going to stop at the hold line and may have tried to "go around".
3. The position of the breakwall impact to the right of the centerline of 28L is also of concern. It may indicate that in fact the aircraft was mushing or wallowing due to the above senerios OR that initially they were lined up on 28R and recognized the error and tried to fly it to 28l at a low altitude and speed.
4. They may have lost power on an engine.
The flight recorder will be the key.

Could someone diagram what that displaced threshold part used to be and is now? For such a new plane how in the hell could landing guidelines be mixed up of all things at a major airport?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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One of the news pieces on the 777 crash is the pilot only had 43 hours in this particular jet. What's the minimum guidelines for pilots training on new platforms acting as pilot vs first officer? 43 hours seems extremely low since that might be like 4 total legs depending on the flight.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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So a hole burnt through the top of the fuselage... is that repairable?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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ehnus posted:

Of course, you just drill out the rivets-oh... that's going to suck to fix.

Maybe flight-rated Bondo kind of like that speed-rated duct tape :v:

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Looking up some of the fuselage photos, it looks like that rear section might be able to be replaced.

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dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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It might seem like a stupid question, but similar to terrain map, has anyone developed a warning map for urban areas specifically for power lines or other dangerous items that pose a risk to low-flying aircraft? It seems like something readily visible on satellite mapping already from a 2d perspective, which could then be optimized in dense or high risk areas.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Strange... watching it circle and now it is putting distance between it and Geneva at a pretty good clip.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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So looks like it is on the far side of the airport or something given its proximity (or lack thereof) to the other aircraft on the ground.

Any ideas why no other media has picked up on it?

EDIT:

Pilots heard on radio stating they will be exiting via the aircraft flight deck window.


Thats gotta be fun if you're a passenger to see the pilots running away from the pleasure of your viewing window.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
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Slo-Tek posted:

Reckon they let you keep pictures of Swiss-livery F-18's off your wing as a hostage parting gift? Or do the swat folks grab all the media out of your recording stuff.

I guess thats when you swallow your SDHC card and pray your bowels hold together until you get back to the privacy of your hotel room.

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dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR
So it looks like the co-pilot was an rear end in a top hat

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1y8qmh/iama_passenger_on_yesterdays_hijacked_plane_from/?sort=confidence

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