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Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn
Most if not all of the American victories over Russian jets were downgraded export models flown by so called "buffer countries". The Russian strategy during the Cold War was to get as many countries with as many tanks and planes and men as possible surrounding them so that any direct attack on Russia would have to go through 5 different countries lovely airforces and lovely armies before they reached the Russian forces, which would now be at a serious advantage. Most of the countries in the USSR were there just to soak up as many American bullets and missiles as possible and make them use as much fuel and other supplies as possible and maybe score the occasional victory. Look how much trouble the US is having in the middle east. Imagine during all this time being spent trying to secure Iraq the entire army of the Russian Federation was pushing through from the other side. There are a lot of differences but the fundamentals are similar.

The Russian air force was at least as good as any NATO force during the cold war, and there are still very few countries it couldn't compete with today. Imagine the combat records if you took a bunch of F15s or F16s and put them into the hands of the Iraqi or Libyan air force circa 1980. Nevermind terrible export models, the MiG-23s initially exported to Libya were literally MiG-23 airframes with MiG-21 engines and avionics installed. Why risk your actual good technology falling into enemy hands when you can just sell them your old poo poo in a new box for more profit? Its not like the Libyan air force would have been anything more then cannon fodder for the USSR regardless of the aircraft they flew.


Oh look, the prettiest plane ever has come to visit us, the MiG-23!




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Many potential enemies of the USSR and its client states had a chance to evaluate the MiG-23’s performance. In the 1970s, after a political realignment by the Egyptian government, Egypt gave their MiG-23MS to the United States and the People's Republic of China in exchange for military hardware. In the US, these MiG-23MS and other variants acquired later from Germany were used as part of the evaluation program of Soviet military hardware. Dutch pilot Leon Van Maurer, who had more than 1200 hours flying F-16s, flew against MiG-23ML Flogger-Gs from air bases in Germany and the U.S. as part of NATO's aerial mock combat training with Soviet equipment. He concluded the MiG-23ML was superior in the vertical to early F-16 variants, just slightly inferior to the F-16A in the horizontal, and has superior beyond visual range (BVR) capability.

The Israelis tested a MiG-23MLD that defected from Syria and found it had better acceleration than the F-16 and F/A-18.

Another MiG-23 evaluation finding in the US and Israel reports was that the MiG-23 has a Heads-Up Display (HUD) that doubles as a radarscope, allowing the pilot to keep his eyes focused at infinity and work with his radar. It also allowed the Soviets to dispense with the radarscope on the MiG-23. This feature was carried over into the MiG-29, though in that aircraft a cathode ray tube (CRT) was carried on the upper right corner to double as a radarscope. Western opinions about this "head-up radarscope" are mixed. The Israelis were impressed, but an American F-16 pilot criticizes it as "sticking a transparent map in front of the HUD" and not providing a three-dimensional presentation that will accurately cue a pilot's eyes to look for a fighter as it appears in a particular direction.

Pretty Little Rainbow fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Mar 11, 2010

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Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn

slidebite posted:

Everytime I see photos of that plane I am absolutely amazed. Fly-by-wire can make the unmanageable manageable indeed.

Edit:Durrrrrrrr ignore me.

Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn

Forum Hussy posted:

Why not one of those Embraer Super Tucanos or whatever they're called? They make an armed version that would be perfect for close range ground support.

Fake edit: wiki says the Air Force and the Navy are (were?) both evaluating the aircraft for this exact purpose.



Gunships pretty much do this job but better already.

Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn
When they first tested the Flying Pancake they couldnt get the thing to loving land.

Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn

VikingSkull posted:

^^^ Smokey Yunick blew up an elephant with one, no joke.


It's my favorite ground attack plane of the war, and the first of the 3 great tank busters in history. Not as successful or as plentiful as the other two, but it laid the framework for them. One is the A-10 which we all love, the other is the Su-25 Frogfoot.



This thing doesn't get nearly enough love. 30mm cannon, can carry a ton of poo poo, and has a great Soviet charm. They can do the same things as the A-10, maybe not as well, but it's still maybe the second best CAS aircraft out there.

It can run on diesel and take off and land on muddy dirty runways that aren't even.

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Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Hells yeah, I'm famous :smug:

Found this in my folders.


The Hornet and the Flanker sure are cute.

Do you have a high res of this? I'd love it for a wallpaper.

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