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flamingmuse
Aug 31, 2001

Woof!

Angry Midwesterner posted:

Is there any milporn fiction out there (besides in comic books) by and for liberals?

Let me rephrase, since most conservative written milporn is something both smart liberals and dumb conservatives can be :smug: about. Is there any liberal-written milporn that would cater to dumb liberals and smart conservatives?

I think I have just the thing. Two authors actually and I have been waiting to talk about this for a while here at TBB so pull up a chair and lets get loving military NERDY.

The first author is Barry Sadler. He is most famous for his Casca series about the guy that stabbed Jesus on the Cross and was forced to live forever and fight in war after war. Because after all, he was a bad rear end and what else can one do when you are a bad rear end? Hell the subtitle is 'The Eternal Mercenary.' Basically, it was a platform for Sadler to put one character into every single major conflict in human history. He only wrote the first couple and then a ghost writer took over, but they are still a boatload of fun. Also, check out his Vietnam series. I read Phu Nam as a kid and my mom tried to take it away from me. Basically merc porn.

The second author is AJ Quinnell. He wrote Man on Fire, the book they loosely based the Denzell Washington flick on. And by loosely I mean both are about guys that want revenge and that is about it. The character Creasy is 400% more bad rear end in the books and I did a scientific study of this. Jumping out of planes, improvised weapons, the whole thing. It is a lot like the Bourne series without the long stretches of bullshit internal monologues.

Now, I don't know a lot about this genre of books, but to throw one out there that I like: I thought Clancy's Without Remorse is hugely bad rear end. One of my closet favorites. I mean, yeah, some of you can scoff and say 'Blah blah blah Joyce blah blah blah literature blah bla' BANG. If anyone can come up with a better premise than "An ex-special forces loving KILLER decides to systematically dismantle a criminal enterprise that killed his girlfriend only to be recruited by the Federal gently caress Government to do more bad rear end poo poo," then you need to write that book and send the poo poo to me FedEx. Otherwise, suck it.

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flamingmuse
Aug 31, 2001

Woof!

IRQ posted:

This sounds interesting, but how does the religion angle factor into this beyond making the guy immortal? If it's an endless jesus-fest I want nothing to do with it.
Well, sir I think now is the time if I ask if you have a personal relationship with Christ.


gently caress no there is nothing to do with Jesus in the books. Remember, he is a Roman so he didn't believe in that upstart bullshit anyway. I think the post above me puts it about right with the following caveat: these were probably targeted at young adults before YA books split into light hearted new-age bullshit or celibacy parables for 25 year old assholes that never learned to read. It is definitely jingoistic propaganda, but in a 50's sort of 'Manifest Destiny makes sense because we never really thought about it' kind of way.

It is the details that are so much fun. For instance, once he realizes that he is immortal, he decides that he'll never work in a mine because he is terrified of getting stuck under ground and being unable to die.

flamingmuse
Aug 31, 2001

Woof!

IRQ posted:

I bet this last election broke his brain enough that we either get some creepy alternate reality McCain/Palin presidency or a Glenn Beckesque caricature of Obama.

I fully expect this one to be even worse than Teeth of the Tiger.
This is the only thread in the world where I'll defend a Tom Clancy book. Teeth of the Tiger had a bad rear end premise: a completely off the map privately funded anti-terrorist organization actually killing terrorists. While Jr. is not his dad, there were some great things in there including a stack of blank Presidential pardons already signed. The stuff around the edges got silly, but the terrorist networks working with drug dealers and the actual team was pretty cool.

Edit, from the NYT blog"

quote:

Super groups: They worked for Blind Faith, the Avengers, Them Crooked Vultures and the 1992 men’s United States Olympic basketball team, so why not Tom Clancy? On Wednesday, Penguin Group said it would publish a new thriller by Mr. Clancy that would bring together many of his best-known characters from his last-quarter century of literary output. The new novel, called “Dead Or Alive” and written with his frequent collaborator Grant Blackwood, will feature the characters Jack Ryan, the C.I.A. analyst-turned-American president; his son and fellow analyst, Jack Ryan Jr.; the C.I.A. operative John Clark; his apprentice, Ding Chavez; and the agency executive Mary Pat Foley. In a statement, Penguin said the novel will pit them against “The Emir, a sadistic killer who has masterminded the most vicious terrorist attacks on the West” and who “has eluded capture by the world’s armed forces and law enforcement agencies.” “Dead Or Alive” will be released by the G. P. Putnam’s Sons imprint of Penguin on Dec. 7.

flamingmuse fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Apr 9, 2010

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