Crimson Kings, Agriculturists, and Lightsabers - The Prog Thread

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Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Allen Wren posted:

Robert Fripp played on I Zimbra and several others on Fear of Music, presumably thanks to his New York City residence and connections with Brian Eno, who produced the album. Belew did not, as far as I've ever been aware, join Talking Heads until the sessions for Remain in Light, one year later.

He wasn't credited until then, but absolutely was working with them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Belew#Talking_Heads.2C_GaGa_and_The_Tom_Tom_Club_.281979-1982.29

# ¿ Apr 11, 2013 22:05

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 19:32

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Chocobo posted:

I was just recently introduced to Riverside. Goddamn, how did I go so long before finding them? Out of Myself, Rapid Eye Movement and Second Life Syndrome are amazing, there isn't a single skippable track.

Listen to the folding chair snare drum sound in the second half of "In Two Minds" and you will never un-hear it

# ¿ May 7, 2013 20:41

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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Since I can't get enough Coal, and have thoroughly listened to the rest of Leprous and Ihsahn's discography, what else can I listen to that's similar (that isn't Mars Volta or Coheed & Cambria because I don't like either of them)?

If you like that album, I'd recommend checking out Soen, Dredg, Karnivool, Oceansize, Jolly, Rishloo, and Ocean Machine-era Devin Townsend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuG1MkwXUY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGnygXFLWPI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDKsosOvVmw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFkyrRqzkIQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePF-CcATGLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYOgS7USGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-NQvRmo3I

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# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 13:25

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Henchman of Santa posted:

Am I the only one that's not feeling Coal? I just listened through it and struggled to pay attention.

I got really annoyed by the "ah-ah-ah-ah" vocals all over the album, personally. I've spun it a few times from Spotify because of the hype between this thread and the metal thread, but I'm not especially impressed. They're all clearly talented musicians, but much more enthralling things have come from Norway.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2013 21:11

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Rust Martialis posted:

So apparently this is a real thing: Prog Rock Boat Cruises

I would be tempted.

From the billing I'm assuming this is the lovely Geoff Tate Queensryche and not the Todd La Torre Queensryche that people actually pay money to see?

# ¿ Aug 23, 2013 02:41

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Trees and Squids posted:

Haken's new album The Mountain is incredible. I've been a big fan of these guys since Aquarius and this is easily their best work.

This song has stood out more to me than anything else this year so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUz2xt-4FCA

I picked this up recently and was just about to post about it yesterday. They were great even when they were accused of sounding too much like Dream Theater, but I'm really loving the notched-up influences from Gentle Giant and The Flower Kings. The mellower songs also remind me a lot of Amplifier's The Octopus, which was definitely one of my favorite heavy-prog releases of the last couple of years.

# ¿ Sep 5, 2013 21:30

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Pain of Salvation used to be one of my favorite bands, but on repeat listens, man, their old stuff really hasn't aged very well. Remedy Lane is drat near a perfect album, and half of Be was excellent, but nowadays I'm considering them flukes in an otherwise really disappointing catalogue.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2013 04:29

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Rollersnake posted:

Do Pain of Salvation have a really good live album? I never got around to checking them out, and I feel like that's my favorite way to get introduced to metal bands.

Eh, not in my opinion. They have three live albums, but the first is all acoustic (good, but not generally representative of their sound), the second is a performance of their fifth album in its entirety, and the third is 50% songs from their worst album.

Start with Remedy Lane, The Perfect Element Part I and Be and track back or forward based on which elements of their sound you like.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2013 15:20

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Allen Wren posted:

I thought Wilson had a shitfit and decided not to do any remasters that weren't Crimson or something?

Huh? He just remastered Tull's Thick as a Brick less than a year ago.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2013 04:02

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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

This is probably really tame by thread standards, but I have had RPWL (Beyond Man and Time), Amplifier (Echo St. and Sunriders EP), and Subsignal (Touchstones) on repeat for a while and am wanting more. Besides Wilson, P.Tree, DT, and the likes, what else would you guys recommend?

I do like the new Haken, it just throws off my groove a few too many times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAMW7YgY7Xc

# ¿ Sep 24, 2013 13:37

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Answers Me posted:

While we're talking recommendations similar to In the Court... � I'm not really a fan of prog but I love the drum sound on Crimson's first album. What can I listen to that has a similar sound, production-wise (and stylistically I guess)?

Robin Thompson and Wessex Sound Studios engineered Cressida around the same time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRH5Sb_TuE

And Los Brincos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqMonlJ8Kuw

If you're a fan of stuff like "Epitaph" and the title track "In the Court of the Crimson King," check out Web's criminally underrated I Spider also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCRg_0AgqA

# ¿ Sep 27, 2013 07:23

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Chocobo posted:

I'm not a fan of the whole sung dialog form that the songs take

"Opera"

# ¿ Nov 9, 2013 16:29

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

The new Sky Architect album dropped a couple of weeks ago and it's my tentative contender for album of the year. Here's a shorter song (much shorter than the 18-minute opening track) that they made a video for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3WCJabGRoE

This song has a pile of Storm Corrosion and Heritage-era Opeth influences on top of their normal sound, and a video obviously influenced by Lasse Hoile's work with Porcupine Tree, but the album as a whole runs the gamut from space rock and heavy prog through some more eclectic stuff that's reminiscient of VdGG and King Crimson. It's on Spotify for anyone interested to hear the whole thing.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2013 21:51

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BigFactory posted:

Women in rock bands in general are sort of a rare commodity, women who shred even moreso. Adrian Belew's bass player is pretty sick though. Something Slick? I forget her first name.

My nod is to Scheila Gonzales, who has done some really sick poo poo with the Zappa Plays Zappa tours - she's easily the most impressive member of the lineup. When I saw them back around '08 she was playing two saxophones and keyboards at the same time

# ¿ Dec 6, 2013 07:01

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Paladinus posted:

Not sure if 'avant-garde' qualifies as prog, but someone has mentioned Arcturus, so yeah, whatever, here's some Finns with an unpronounceable band name:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbahejW5EE
Their klezmer is what does it for me, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryVJG9zDZxU

Whoa, this is awesome. Any idea where I can pick this up stateside?

Veering more offtopic, but if you're into weird bands with klezmer influences, definitely check out the complete lineup from every Honkfest (start with Emperor Norton's Stationary Marching Band, which is a constant staple at the festival).

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jan 15, 2014

# ¿ Jan 15, 2014 01:47

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nihil morari posted:

Okay so a new Blackfield album [Steven Wilson side project with Israeli musician Aviv Geffen] comes out and no one bothers to tell me? Frig you guys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvqGM-Cmx0w

I stopped caring after Welcome to My DNA was loving awful, honestly. And Wilson's basically just a guest musician these days.

# ¿ Jan 16, 2014 18:58

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Speaking of, anyone else catch Blackfield on the Welcome to My DNA tour and find them to be unbelievably loud? I caught them at Irving Plaza in 2011, and maybe it's just the Anathema acoustic set that preceded them, but even from the balcony level my ears were ringing with earplugs in. Good show anyway, but I regretted it a little bit for a few days afterwards.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2014 09:02

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david puddy posted:

Man, I've just started listening to The Pineapple Thief (finally) and they've got some really phenomenal stuff. Pretty much the whole of 137 and Variations on a Dream are my favourites so far.

http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/PVS/2gpAJV?src=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WlE7B6vjbU

They're a really great band, and those are my favorites of their collection too! Variations on a Dream was a perfect breakup album for me after it came out.

Also recommended is Bruce Soord's collaboration with Jonas Renkse from Katatonia, titled Wisdom of Crowds. It feels vaguely like Bruce Soord's signature Pineapple Thief style coming together with some of the electronic influences from Pure Reason Revolution's Amor Vincit Omnia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P66D8U7xxh8

# ¿ Feb 22, 2014 05:11

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Helicity posted:

Steven Wilson put up a new page with links to Soundcloud stuff he throws up. Found this sweet track from him and Mikael �kerfeldt (of Opeth):

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wilson/cut-ribbon
http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/audio/

Reading the description, it says the duo plan to release a collaboration this April which is pretty loving awesome.

The description is over two years old and refers to the Storm Corrosion album that came out in 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manW5v-AR7U

# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 16:35

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Chocobo posted:

Stumbled upon Votum last night. Didn't like the older stuff I skimmed through, but I listened to their 2013 album Harvest Moon seven times at work today and it's a good listen.

So this is pretty excellent -- I picked up some similarity to Riverside and Indukti, so I wasn't surprised to discover that they're from Poland. Thanks for this!

# ¿ Mar 5, 2014 05:27

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Declan MacManus posted:

Owner of a Lonely Heart is a pretty catchy song. You just can't get caught up in the fact that it's Yes.

They were formed as a different band (Cinema) and renamed Yes under label pressure. You can't fault Cinema for taking a different direction than a completely different band.

# ¿ Mar 11, 2014 16:40

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Rust Martialis posted:

Next he'll claim Robert stood up.

How could you even tell with his rig directly between him and the audience?

# ¿ Mar 27, 2014 19:01

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Gimmedaroot posted:

That was in 2008. I was lucky enough to be on the far right side of the Nokia Theater in NYC on that tour, and could see him sitting behind the gear, and HE WAS SMILING at Belew. I felt bad for the middle and left sections because he was a hoot.

In 1995, he wanted to play Lollapalooza and was reaching out everywhere he could. They were on the HORDE tour and frightened the jam band hippie crowd, which he gets bonus points for doing.

Haha, that happens to be the exact show I was referring to. I was front-center of the first mezzanine level.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2014 20:05

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Henchman of Santa posted:

Are there any great American prog rock bands? It just dawned on me that I can't think of any. The genre's heyday was almost entirely British. Canada has Rush. Germany and Italy have some stuff. We have progressive metal down pretty well, but besides like, Tool (who aren't really the same style), are there any notable bands to come out of the States? Just curious.

There's a ton of great American prog and fusion bands. Cathedral, Starcastle, Yezda Urfa, Weather Report, World Trade, Dixie Dregs, Djam Karet, Echolyn and Spock's Beard are all worth checking out. American prog-influenced music largely takes the form of progressive metal or heavy progressive rock (where I'd shovel bands like Jolly or OSI that I wouldn't quite label "metal"), but we also started that whole post-hardcore thing (Fugazi, At the Drive-In, The Jesus Lizard, etc.).

It's weird that you would single out Germany and Italy but leave out Sweden, especially when Sweden has a really rich heritage of excellent bands like Anglagard, Anekdoten, Kaipa, The Flower Kings, Gosta Berlings Saga, Morte Macabre, and so many others. Italy's always had a huge amount going on, but the bands all kind of bleed together for me and I always found a lot more worth listening to in their Swedish counterparts.

Seventh Arrow posted:

Cathedral is like the American Yes. They only have two albums, though.

Also Kansas.

I got to meet Mac (Cathedral's drummer) out at a bar in Huntington, NY a few weeks back, he's an excellent guy who's friends with my old boss (who was supposed to play bass with them at Farfest a few years back, but then the fest was cancelled). His son, Mercury Caronia V, posts these hilariously awkward video game videos to YouTube all the time. Awesome every time I hear people talking about them.

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# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 04:38

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Iucounu posted:

Starcastle is pretty much Diet Yes

So was Cathedral, though they were a lot better at it. Fountains of Light had some interesting things going on, but everything else they did was pretty awful. On the other hand, so was everything Yes was putting out by then.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 05:24

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Seventh Arrow posted:

I think Cathedral is a fantastic band, really underrated, but their recorded output is kind of funny. They have one album from 1978 and one album from...2007. They make Jeff Beck look like a lightweight.

To be fair, Cathedral turned into Industry and released Stranger to Stranger in 1984.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtGwJo4vadE

# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 05:58

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

We should probably also mention Frank Zappa in the discussion of American contributions to prog. Though most of his stuff is probably better classified as eclectic jazz-rock, and he has a lot of ties to prominent fusion musicians like Jean-Luc Ponty, his influence in modern prog (especially Swedish stuff like Beardfish) is totally undeniable.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 22:51

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Declan MacManus posted:

I wouldn't call Phish a prog band any more than I would call the Dead a prog band.

Yeah, if we're going with jam bands I'd pick out Umphrey's McGee as a better representation of prog.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 23:37

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Trees and Squids posted:

I've had this album on repeat for awhile now, it's an excellent (debut?) release that came out this year. You should really listen to this. Also, don't be turned off by the Beatles-esque intro, the album is undeniably prog.

Perfect Beings!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-9kj5n42SE

welp, adding these guys to my list of excellent Americans

There's so much XTC and Bruce Soord (Pineapple Thief) influence I would have sworn they were from Bristol.

# ¿ Apr 2, 2014 18:13

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Declan MacManus posted:

Is the Peter Banks stuff getting remastered? I can't find any information on it and that's always the most overlooked period of Yes.

Also I went back and listened to ABWH and while they're better than the Rabin incarnation of Yes, it's not... great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjsSgIUoHQ

Rick Wakeman is using default patches on that keyboard or something because it sounds dated as hell and Howe has like zero energy. Jeff Berlin and Bill Bruford kill it, and Jon Anderson and his voice are ageless. So I'd listen to 60% of this band I guess? (I absolutely would have listened to a Jeff Berlin/Bill Bruford/Jon Anderson supergroup)

I love how at about the 6:30 mark Bill Bruford even looks at Steve Howe like "that all you got?"

# ¿ Apr 16, 2014 15:53

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Helicity posted:

Stop remixing everything under the sun and either get back in the studio solo or as Porcupine Tree already.

He's already doing another solo album this year.

http://www.prog-sphere.com/news/steven-wilson-announces-new-solo-album/

# ¿ Apr 17, 2014 18:49

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tankadillo posted:

What are people's favorite Porcupine Tree-esque bands? I've really gotten into their older stuff especially. PT and Phideaux are my favorite "dark" prog bands right now.

Which era of Porcupine Tree? I figure there are at least three distinct eras within their music, with completely different "this sounds like" recommendations for each.

If you like their mid-period stuff like The Sky Moves Sideways, I really really recommend an instrumental Swedish band called G�sta Berlings Saga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAMW7YgY7Xc

# ¿ Apr 20, 2014 02:09

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JAMOOOL posted:

Yeah as many others are I'm very undecided on the whole Swedish prog scene - the playing seems to be excellent and the songs are often well thought out, but there's 0 fire whatsoever and I'm kinda sick of Roine Stolt's voice cropping up on everything. I like the two Flower Kings albums I have fine but rarely seem to want to actually listen to them!

I can't find a nicer way to put this, but are you deliberately avoiding Sweden's eclectic prog scene to focus on Kaipa derivatives? Anekdoten, �nglag�rd, G�sta Berlings Saga, and Morte Macabre all have way more "fire" than most of the world's prog bands.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2014 16:49

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Paladinus posted:

Well, it's like when people say Finnish power metal or Norwegian black metal. Even though not all bands are Sonata Arctica or Gorgoroth, it's a handy shortcut for identifying genres and describing what a band sounds like.

Anekdoten and Morte Macabre are awesome, by the way, so I'll take a look at other bands.

Heh, fair point, I hadn't quite considered it from that perspective.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2014 18:10

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Rama Lama Magnus posted:

Holy poo poo, thanks for this post. I'm rather an aficionado of Swedish prog and I haven't heard 2/3 of this stuff.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2014 21:31

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Pretty okay song (shame about the Nickelback vocals), but that riff reminds me way too much of what's going on in the chorus of this Sky Architect song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3WCJabGRoE

# ¿ Apr 25, 2014 06:26

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UniqueLikeMonique posted:

Just got a hold of the worst album (the reissue literally has newspaper snippets of reviews bashing the crap out of the album) by the worst(?) first gen progressive rock group not named Kansas. The album and band in question are Modern Masquerades by Fruupp.

Not even kidding when I say every guitar solo on the album sounds like the ending of Comfortably Numb.

Its not too bad but boy does it make me sleepy.

The most surreal thing about this album was when Talib Kweli and Norah Jones sampled it and hit #2 on the Billboard album charts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkMFAfnC36s

# ¿ May 20, 2014 05:50

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Allen Wren posted:

You mean depress us. They're like a third of my age and they play better than I ever will.

Being a third your age is really the key. It's easy to practice eight hours a day when you don't have anything else you have to do.

# ¿ May 26, 2014 05:05

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Gianthogweed posted:

Yes just released a new track from their upcoming album. Not good. This might be the worst Yes song I've ever heard actually.

http://youtu.be/ldKKCJRb_So

This is like they hired a middle schooler to write lyrics for a Supertramp pastiche, but it's not offensively bad.

On the other hand, that's the nicest thing I have to say about it.

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 19:32

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Paladinus posted:

Thought I'd bump the thread with a little request.

Recently I realised that apart from occasional duets, back vocals and rock/metal operas, my prog collection is almost devoid of female vocals. Anything besides Gathering and Lana Lane that I should be aware of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caIM8e5m4u8

# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 18:07

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