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Anae
Apr 23, 2008

EMUpirate posted:

Finally, we went about 5 posts without anything about Pendulum, ah crap.

Bop - Tears Of A Lonely Metaphysician (Lynx + Hellrazor remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQSYAsua9hM

Would anybody hate me if I said I'm not a fan of Nu:Tone's new sound? How do you go from Nu:Tone ft Natalie Williams - System I mean come on Nu:tone and Natalie Williams - Strange Encounter for goodness sakes. Now his music sounds more catered towards the jump up market. Maybe I just need to get out more, I'm sure his current tunes sound fun in a club and slightly silly just sitting around.

What? Really? Have you heard The First Time, Battle Theme, Mercy Mercy, Set Me Free, or Hyper Hyper? How you can describe any of them as even remotely jumpup boggles my mind.

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Anae
Apr 23, 2008

feedtheid posted:

The only issue with the new lp is that it sounds like seven of fifteen tracks have the same drum break (I have no idea if I'm using this terminology correctly - the basic drum beat in the song) that pendulum used for most of HYC. That's frustrating, but the longer the album goes on, the less frequent it gets. Not to say the early songs in the tracklist don't sound good, but they DO sound very samey because of extremely similar beats.

It always amazes me that a band/producer with such high productions standards is so happy to copy/paste their drums. I'd genuinely like an instrumental version of the entire album, their vocals piss me off so much.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
Reading this thread regularly stops me from taking Bristol (UK) for granted. loving hell. Just for kicks, here's a list of d&b/dubstep DJs playing in Bristol next weekend.

RONI SIZE
NOISIA
NERO
DIRTYPHONICS
VIRUS SYNDICATE
XAMPLE & LOMAX
SIGMA
D*MINDS b2b SS
DISTANCE
16BIT
DOCTOR P
SUKH KNIGHT
JAKES
FABIO
SPECTRASOUL
SEBA
MICKEY FINN B2B NICKY BLACKMARKET
JUMPIN JACK FROST
POTENTIAL BAD BOY
JOHN B
DR S GACHET
COMMIX
PANGAEA
LYNX
CASPA
DAVID 'RAM JAM' RODIGAN
EMALKAY
BREAKAGE
THE OTHERS
TROLLEY SNATCHA
SUBSCAPE
BROOKES BROTHERS
STANZA

Seriously. No festival or anything. Those are just the upcoming events for next weekend on my facebook.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
New mix, straight outta Bristol town. I like the opportunity to share this with you lovely 'merkins as it's a fairly decent snapshot of what's good over here at the moment, minus wobble and stuff that's a bit too beard-strokey to fit in a normal mix. Enjoy guys!

http://soundcloud.com/aerialbristol/aerial-may-mix

Phace - Strange Science [Shogun]
>> Bad Company - The Nine [BCUK]
Spor - Halogen
DJ SS - Black (Bladerunner Remix) [Formation]
Total Science & S.P.Y - Gangsta [Shogun]
Break - Let It Happen VIP [Shogun]
>> DJ Marky & XRS - LK [V Records]
Calibre - Steptoe [Signature]
Top Cat - Ruffest Gun Ark (Chase & Status Remix) [Streetlife]
Netsky - I Refuse [Spearhead]
Camo & Krooked - Turn Up The Music [Hospital]
Lenzman - Fade Away [Soul:r]
Kabuki ft. Jenna G - Just Hold On (Serum Remix) [V Records]
>> DJ Die - Clear Skyz (Break Remix) [Clear Skyz]
Cyantific - Hong Kong Express [Hospital]
Culture Shock - Bad Red [Ram]
Logistics - Blackout [Hospital]
>> Fresh - Heavyweight [Digital Soundboy]
Sonic - Piano Anthem [Hospital]
>> Q Project - Ask Not VIP [C.I.A]
S.P.Y - The Boy Who Cried Wolf [31]
Rockwell - My War [Shogun]
Nymfo - Matchstick [Commercial Suicide]
>> Lynx - Disco Dodo [Creative Source]
Artificial Intelligence & dBridge - Three's A Crowd [V Records]
>> S.P.Y - Dark Age [C.I.A]
Marky & S.P.Y - Riff Raff [Digital Soundboy]
>> Shy FX & T-Power - Feelings [Digital Soundboy]
Noisia - Shellshock [Vision]
Ulterior Motive - Featherweight [Subtitles]
Noisia & Phace - Floating Zero [Invisible]
Spor - Kingdom [Lifted]
Noisia - Deception [Ram]
>> Apex - Gonzo [Lifted]
Rockwell - Full Circle [Shogun]
Jubei - Alignment [Metalheadz]
Sabre & Ulterior Motive - Barefoot [Critical]
Icicle - Mnml Funk [Shogun]
Spor - Kaori [Lifted]

Anae fucked around with this message at 21:38 on May 30, 2010

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

feedtheid posted:

Also the fact that people are STILL mixing tracks out of TGDD, as evidenced by his mix, I think is a pretty good statement as to its lasting power. Also it's awesome when you can pick tracks out of mixes that you know. Just a little extra oomph when you hear the beat get mixed in.

If We Ever literally never gets old. It's great to tease as well, 50% of the crowd goes crazy when you bring in the vocal sample and the other 50% go crazy when the piano comes in. It's like clockwork.

EMUpirate posted:

Woah, great tracks in this mix old and new! It's stuff like this that really makes me miss good dnb events! Yea, I'm loving this!

Wicked, that's exactly what I want to hear!

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

WanderingKid posted:

The Nine is one of the shittest BC tunes btw. :colbert:

Huge lie. You must have heard it played out; it's a wall of sound. The bassline is so sinister, it's like going through a dark winding tunnel.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Also, I'm now aware of the title "drumstep". I never knew what to call tracks like The Island Part 2 and the second half of Sub Focus' album, since they weren't quite drum-n-bass but weren't quite dubstep either. But that moniker makes sense, and I kinda feel like a dumbass for being unaware of it before. It's so obvious :shobon:

'Drumstep' is a bit of a silly title if you ask me. It's just half-time drum and bass. Also, Sub Focus doesn't have a single half-time track on his album. Which tracks were you thinking of?

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Tracks like "Could This Be Real" and "Move Higher".

I guess they are more electro/house, but they sound kinda different than electro/house I've heard in the past, so I guess I thought they were something else.

Bassy house. I don't want to come across as harsh, but there's nothing d&b/halfstep etc about either of those tracks. :)

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

ManoliIsFat posted:

I don't usually like liquid, but that one gave me chills. Solid track. I saw High Contrast in San Diego a couple years back, and the turnout had to be less than 50 people. The system kept cutting out, but that dude just had a huge smile on his face and kept killing it.
Lovely lovely bloke. Bumped into him in a bar the other week and he was literally the sweetest man. In the middle of writing his new album, he said. Excellent.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
Stop hating on Fresh. I respect that guy so much, he's the most versatile producer I know (speaking as someone who is nerdy as gently caress about d&b). No two of his tunes ever sound the same. Listen to Acid Rain, off the same album as Gold Dust (album's called 'Kryptonite'). loving huge tearout beast. I'm genuinely really happy he doesn't just make the heavy stuff (Signal, Heavyweight, Acid Rain etc) that appeals to the heads, he branches out and genuinely keeps things fresh (har har) with every tune he releases.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Dell_Zincht posted:

I'm not so much hating on Fresh as expressing ridicule that his tunes are now being marketed to the moronic Ministry of Sound dnb-lite crowd.

Bet he's raking in the cash from that release, I think it got to 20 in the charts. As long as he continues being as diverse as he is, I'm more than happy :)

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

chrix posted:

LTJ is a legend in the dnb scene, up there with Goldie, Grooverider/Fabio, & Roni Size.

Mostly unrelated, but never bother seeing Roni Size. Such a terrible, terrible DJ. Incredibly sad to see after how good it was to see him with the full Reprazent band a couple of years ago.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

infinity2005 posted:

It's hard to believe Atlantis is from 1993.

I know. Sounds SO good still. It's just when you realise it's about 156 bpm you're like 'gently caress'. Still the only track I know where people go crazy 3 times in just over a minute - when the synths come in, when the drums come in and then when the bass comes in. Love hearing it get played out on a big system - only had that pleasure twice.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

chrix posted:

I've collected a little bit of classic dnb/jungle so I can do some classic dnb Serato sets, but never thought to include this one. I will make it a point to shoehorn this into a set now. :)

This pleases me greatly. Andy C played it as the last tune at the very last ever RAM at the end - that's how much this track is a national anthem of d&b :)

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

zeldadude posted:

It seems the majority of the DOA community hate Netsky and anything related to "pop dnb". And that song is pretty much the definition of pop dnb.

I dunno, it sounds good and makes me smile so I like it.

I'm not sure...I'm going off Netsky massively and have been since his album came out. I'm all for good pop d&b - but Netsky is just so boring. I loved I Refuse and still mix it regularly, but all his songs are starting to sound the same and it's not even a very interesting template. Meh.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

I disagree. I'm a huge Hospital fan, so I may be kind of biased, but still. There are artists, even other Hospital acts, that do what you're describing. But I've never found Netsky to be one of them. I think his album is incredibly varied as far as pop DNB goes, and I'd recommend it to anyone wanting to get into DNB.

I'm also a big Hospital fan - they were my gateway into d&b - but I stand by what I said. Lets pick Logistics' most recent album, seeing as you mentioned other Hospital artists. If you can find me three Netsky tracks as different as these (since he got signed to Hospital):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyXKvD8tj3M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGMymCZltCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcMPYwDMfk8

I will back down entirely.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Riot.EXE posted:

I'll have to find it...although I know that most of what comes out of Shogun Audio bores the poo poo out of me...

WOAH no you didn't. Every release since the start of 2009 has been pure fire. And most of the ones before that too.

Full Circle, Gangsta, Strange Science, Driftwood, Down the Line remix, Aztec, Absentis, Loose Ends, and the forthcoming release Stand Up?! Every single one of those tunes destroys a dance, and Gangsta, Full Circle and Aztec especially have been massive hits.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
Oops. Guess I didn't read my post back before I posted, wasn't meant to be angry at all, just surprised. Apologies!

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Iraff posted:

someone tell me I'm not crazy. I swear there used to be a youtube channel that uploaded a bunch of pretty good liquid, and the image for each video was a still of bright red lips on a pure red background. does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/user/jsaltzz

:)

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
Brain Bucket has really grown on me. I've always liked Falling Through...I actually prefer listening to it than dancing to it, funnily enough.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Dr. Goonstein posted:


And I don't know what it is, but I just can't get into Noisia. I suppose Falling Through isn't bad, but I can't really get into the darker stuff like that and Evol Intent.

Zahi posted:

If I had to describe what it is, drum and bass is a genre where it's extremely important to control your build ups and breaks and know how to use the energy in the song. Noisia doesn't do a very good job of that at all.

Genuinely the only two people who like d&b who don't like Noisia that I've ever come across. No matter how much I might disagree, I guess it's good to see some differing opinions :)

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Riot.EXE posted:

When it comes to Noisia doing Drum & Bass, I like when they do stuff like "Stigma" or "Creep Out"...but when they do poo poo like this "Brain Bucket" track they put out...they lose me.

So you like the big tear-out numbers but not the heads-down stompers. I love both, but they have to be played at the right time really. They have very different places in a set.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

zeldadude posted:

Finished it!

http://soundcloud.com/navidnb/navi-like-a-kite

It's pretty decent and well-produced, but it could just do with some more interesting ideas. You obviously have a good ear for melody and the way things interact, as well as good production skills, so I just think you could make something a lot more interesting than this, which is just kind of Netsky-ish. Just my input, nothing more than constructive criticism :) still impressed. Lots of potential.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

SUBFRIES posted:

I am old and crabby and still think Dillinja tunes from 1995 to 1998 are the best.

I am young and sprightly and you are oh-so-correct.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Dr. Goonstein posted:

Everybody knows the best label... It's Hospital.


No. Not being elitist; it just really isn't that simple. They are far and away the best run label in terms of management, PR and being on it with release dates etc. In terms if music though, very inconsistent.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

EMUpirate posted:

I'll be gentle.

Never tell anyone you know Adam F for that, if anyone ever asks just say "Yea, he made Circles!"

Adam F - Circles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obv477QfDI0


Tune.



Gonne be playing this out tonight. Mixing it with True Romance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2C-cdySGHk). Heavy.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

zeldadude posted:

Hey guys more dnb from your pal, Navi!

http://soundcloud.com/navidnb/sun-wip-11-27

Feedback is welcome and encouraged!

I like this a lot more than your last one (Like a Kite). Much more inventive. The one thing I will say - and this goes for your production as a whole actually, not just this track - is work on your drums. It's hard to describe but they really stand out as quite amateurish sounding sitting next to your really rather good production in the other areas. The snares are harsh and synthetic, and the programming is not very interesting. Personally being a massive d&b nerd, it's important for me for the drums to actually have a vibe of their own, not just carry the beat. It's a hard skill but it can really make the difference between decent and great.

For example, these tracks have drums that, while totally different and mostly would not fit in your track at all, have been tailored to really suit the vibe of the track. It's incredibly hard to put your finger on it and it's even harder to put down in words but hopefully you understand what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4nQvhCgRRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZWw239vBw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2SQKJQDlRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3UIvvOCi4

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
Who was it here who said he was friends with Hybris? Tell him massive congratulations from me, and that I want all his unreleased tunes.

http://dnbforum.com/showthread.php?112140-Invisible-003-Hybris-EP-amp-Hybris-Invisible-Promo-Mix&p=950551#post950551

Seriously, really big things coming from this guy.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

SUBFRIES posted:

I am, just forwarded him the message.

Expect his name to pop up on a few big labels in 2011. I can't mention names just yet, but we chatted last week and he filled me in on stuff. Always a trip to go "so what's your next goal, a release on [insert big name label]?" and getting "welllllll, funny you asked that."

If I can get a night at a local club on December 26th, might do a spur of the moment thing with him headlining, while he's home for the holidays.

I haven't heard anything about it, but I'd be amazed if Metalheadz hadn't picked up on his sound. Only just finished listening to his mix properly - 'Make My Drink' is incredible! I rewound to the start of that track 4 times. Unbelievable drums.

Dr. Goonstein posted:


Best Album: Netsky


:gonk:

butch thumperton posted:

Both sides of the new Apex are pretty lush:

Apex - Inner Space
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSaH1yaRkzI

Apex - Energy Lines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmWhIDgkL5Q

Inner Space is an impeccable track. Love the atmospherics and the fact that it's halftime all the way till the end of the second breakdown. Been double dropping the second drop with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY3-Vc2Lfrk

Epic business.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

QPZIL posted:

Could someone recommend some good grimy neurofunk stuff for me to listen to? I'm fairly new to DnB but like that aspect of it.

Do you mean techy stompy stuff like this (wait for the switch-up at 1:50):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wNYbC0vzQ

Or tear-out mental stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05CQlb_1qgw

?

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Riot.EXE posted:

I remember this one time I had gone to Barnes & Noble and I had my MP3 player with me, but low to the point where only I could hear what I was listenin' to. Anyways, I'm gettin' rung up by this one dude, and he asks me if I'm listening to Drum & Bass (how the gently caress did he know? I wasn't even bobbin' my head, and like I said...poo poo was LOW)...so I tell him I am. He asks me who I'm listenin' to at the moment and I tell him I'm listenin' to Gridlok. He then gets this snotty, unapproving tone and responds with, "Oh, I listen to UK stuff." What the gently caress does it matter where it's coming from? If it's good, it's good!

Also, Gridlok is probably the most 'UK-sounding' US d&b artist. :confused:

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
If the drop on Kingdom has no energy for you, then you are broken and you cannot like that kind of drum and bass. Give up and move on and try not to feel too left out.

In all honesty I don't know what to say. Kingdom is the epitome of mental, balls-out all-over-the-place energy in d&b and is executed almost perfectly and evidently it just doesn't click with you for some reason. Listen to the other three tracks on the Conquerors and Commoners EP - all very different, and all flipping brilliant.

Thoroughly disagree with Neurophonic - Silver Spaceman/Some Other Funk and the C&C EP are some of his best ever releases, with the latter in my opinion being his best work, and both are post-Aztec.

Edit: with regards to Feed Me, he has an 8 track EP just coming out on deadmau5's label, so you asked at just the right time. http://soundcloud.com/youfeedme/sets/feed-me-feed-mes-big-adventure-clips

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

brathering posted:

guys check out this dj set from netsky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vs_ZeMbTAs&hd=1

not because its good (it isnt)
but because the mix action doesn't really fit to the actual sound :psyduck: (you can clearly see it around 5:20 and after)

I got confused trying to watch his actual physical mixing, but then I realised you meant look at the Serato screen, and yeah, it makes no sense. For example his transition from System to Ill Behaviour - the transition happens with only one Serato track playing. So both System and Ill Behaviour were on that one MP3, evidently. This would be excusable if it was a mash-up, but it's not, it's a (fairly rubbish) mix. He then mixes into another Serato track at 6:24 (notice the top one stop moving) but it continues to be Ill Behaviour, with his next tune pre-mixed in (listen to the drums).

Secondly, watch the bit from 2:14 to 3:00. The track he mixes out of the Let You Go remix (I don't recognise it) drops when it's clearly on the same Serato deck as Let You Go (the top one) - if you watch the waveforms, the waveform on the deck it 'should' be on goes into near-silence at about 2:44 for quite a while. The camera looks away for a while, and when it looks back at 3:36, the track I don't know is now on the bottom Serato deck and the Vocals from System are being mixed in - apparently on the top deck - and it's all well and dandy until at 3:50 he takes the tune out of the top deck...and both tunes remain playing.

I'm pretty sure he has his transitions pre-recorded, and then he matches up the tracks that are the same - i.e., he has 2 MP3s with Ill Behaviour on it: one is an MP3 going from System into Ill Behaviour, and another is an MP3 with Ill Behaviour going into whatever the next tune is.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Dr. Goonstein posted:

Probably the ones I just mentioned, his remix of Noisia's Machine Gun and Kingdom. Giving another couple listens to Kingdom, I can grow to appreciate it a little bit more. It does actually drop somewhat hard, but far from the "mental, balls out" stuff Anae is referring to.

I'm genuinely curious now. Can you post what you'd class as mental, balls-out d&b?

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

chrix posted:

It's possible he has a 3rd track playing internally (with an SL3?)

Edit: On second look, I'm not convinced this is actually "live". Right when the stage cam comes on, you can tell the waveforms don't line up with the currently playing track. I think it's just a crap edit job where the editor just kind of guessed where the video should go. At around 7 minutes, he cuts out and you can hear a bunch of screaming for the next track, but looking at the audience, I don't see any change in the crowd.

2:16 to 2:23, he's cueing up a tune and it's very obviously in sync.

Edit: what the hell is wrong with me, that means nothing. Ignore this post, I'm a twat.

Anae fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Dec 16, 2010

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

chrix posted:

It's really confusing because they got the video "in time" but it's in the completely wrong position.

Netsky DJ forensics up in this piece.

Yeah christ this was nerdy.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

infinity2005 posted:

I don't get, what is UKF? They got an album released based on the fact they upload other peoples tunes to youtube without their permission?

It started off as a standard youtube channel like you describe, but it got popular enough that it's now a promotion tool used by quite a few labels.

Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Neris posted:

London types, I've quite recently gotten ridiculously into dnb but seriously lack friends who love it (in my city at least), and while my boyfriend doesn't mind it really I've never gone out to a dnb. Hell I've never even been to a proper club I'd say (apart from Corisca Studios to see Nathan Fake/Caribou dj set in 2009 hah, I'm so adventurous).

But in a couple of weeks we have a friend visiting and we want to go out but none of us know where.Are any recommendations people would have for clubs? Or is it more the case that you just have to look for events as they're announced, and where's a good place to find out what's on?

I'm gonna have a trawl online of course, but I thought I'd check in here as well just in case ...

Definitely a case of looking for particular events as they're announced. What dates are you looking at?

Anae
Apr 23, 2008
If you're:
a) ok with going out on the 11th instead
and
b) ok with going out to what is essentially a superclub for your first proper clubbing experience

then this would be by absolute miles the best thing for d&b that weekend, to the extent that there's probably not much else on that weekend due to the competition.

http://dnbforum.com/showthread.php?115025-RAM-Fabric-Fri-11th-Feb

Pretty much the be-all and end-all of d&b nights, absolutely everything is on offer there. The best DJs, the best producers, the best sound-systems, and every kind of d&b that you could want (apart from Netsky/trancey stuff). It is kind of throwing yourself in at the deep end, but I guarantee that it will be amazing.

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Anae
Apr 23, 2008

Smack Headed posted:

Anyone heard Skream's remix of Cassius' I Love You So?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzo_2bl_mtM

Skream is on fire at the moment, one of my favourite producers.

Proper piano-y hardcore. Love it. I'm honestly really impressed with Skream these days. I loving hate his straight-up dancefloor dubstep but things like that are really flipping good.

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