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Old thread _________________________________________________________________________________ What Is Drum & Bass? _________________________________________________________________________________ Drum & Bass (DNB) is a subgenre of electronic music that came about in the UK in the 1990s as an evolution of another subgenre, jungle. DNB is usually categorized by fast tempos (BPMs of 160-180) and prominent sub-bass (bass at low frequencies that you feel more than hear). Many DNB tracks feature samples. Here's an informative video about some key elements/history of DNB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac The Amen break isn't required to make DNB, but if you've heard music with it before (which you probably have at least sometime in the last 25 years or so, even if you weren't aware of it), you already have a pretty good idea of what DNB sounds like. Auspex posted:Generally drum and bass songs have a minute or so long intro building up to a drop where the bassline kicks in. Most tunes feature a breakdown and a second drop. There is a huge amount of energy in these drops and a DJs job is to keep building and releasing tension by controlling the flow of the drops and breakdowns while mixing from one tune to the next. What Does Drum & Bass Sound Like Today? _________________________________________________________________________________ The lighter side of DNB is referred to as "liquid" (Liquid Funk) and contains more layers of instrumentation. I suppose that darker DNB could also be liquid, but that's usually not the case. Hospital Records, who've been around since 1996, is the biggest label on that front. Artists currently signed to Hospital include High Contrast, Danny Byrd, Nu:Tone, London Elektricity, Logistics, S.P.Y, Fred V, Grafix, Metrik and more. Hospital hosts "Hospitality" live events, including some of the biggest drum & bass festivals in the world. Hospital also has a sub-label, Med School, for more experimental DNB. Artists on Med School include Bop, Etherwood, Keeno, Whiney and more. Other notable liquid artists include Cyantific, Matrix + Futurebound, Netsky and Calibre. Examples: Cyantific - Don't Follow [ft. Diane Charlemange] (off Cyantific's album "Ghetto Blaster") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xATnABqp3M Metrik - Chasing Sunrise (off Metrik's album "Life/Thrills") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBBly4My8p0 Logistics - Take Me To Another World [ft. Stella Attar] (off Logistics' album "Electric Sun") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NriCtl5Wf0 Fred V & Grafix - Comb Funk (off Fred V & Grafix's album "Oxygen") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anSpm13FTcs Matrix & Futurebound - Fire [ft. Max Marshall] [Extended DJ Edit] (off Matrix & Futurebound's "Fire" single) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aikWr4Vibig On the darker, dirtier side of DNB are artists like Noisia, Dieselboy, Black Sun Empire, Calyx and Evol Intent. Darker DNB is usually more simplistic and focused on strictly drums and basslines rather than layers of instruments like liquid is (but not exclusively). Examples: Calyx & Teebee - Enygma (off Calyx & Teebee's album "Anatomy") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGwbLY-MazM Dom & Roland - King of the Hustlers (off Dom & Roland's album "Last Refuge of a Scoundrel") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7yzvuK3Wcg Dieselboy + Kaos - Barrier Break (off Dieselboy's album "The Human Resource", as well as the Need For Speed: Most Wanted soundtrack) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzueWghQiRs Noisia & The Upbeats - Dead Limit (off Noisia & The Upbeats' "Dead Limit" EP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz_OgmkbCXg Artists that toe the line between liquid and dark DNB include TC, Pendulum, Delta Heavy and Sub Focus. Examples: TC - Storm Brew [ft. Stylo G] [Whiney Remix] (off Hospital Records' "We Are 21" compilation) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMnFFGGjTzg Pendulum - Blood Sugar (off Pendulum's album "Hold Your Colour") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Rl096vMf0 Sub Focus - Last Jungle (off Sub Focus' self-titled album) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDp7Znr8iRs Delta Heavy - Tremors (off Delta Heavy's album "Paradise Lost") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5UMRMX8_U _________________________________________________________________________________ What Should I Start With If I Want To Get Into Drum & Bass? _________________________________________________________________________________ Personally, I started with a couple compilations: Dieselboy's HUMAN Resource (darker/dirtier stuff) and Tayla's Soul Survivors, which included some DNB pioneers like LTJ Bukem, Makoto and Future Engineers. Really, it depends on what side of DNB you think you'll lean more towards. If you've listened to the examples I've posted in here, try to gauge what sounds most appealing to you. I'll recommend a few albums/mixes here: High Contrast - Tough Guys Don't Dance: This is probably my most listened to DNB album. Every track is a banger in some way and the album has never gotten old for me despite listening to it since 2007 when it was released. To me, this is refined liquid DNB at its best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvmnYId1ckI Sub Focus - Sub Focus: As a first album, this is a really killer effort. It isn't strictly drum & bass, as there are some tracks from other genres on it too, but the drum & bass tracks are the real standouts, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziU0rc3-yU4 Pendulum - Hold Your Colour - This is one of the first few DNB albums I ever heard, and it's definitely one of my favorites. I don't think I could think of a better album to recommend someone interested in checking out drum & bass. It's a great showcase of the genre in different forms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZR2p-DhSX4 Evol Intent - Era Of Diversion - These guys are a supergroup of sorts. It's 3 members, and each has a different background. What they bring to the table across multiple genres is absolutely massive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrxQ_Suypns Netsky - Netsky - Netsky burst onto the scene in '09 when he signed to Hospital, and his first album (released in 2010) quickly became one of my favorite DNB albums ever. Each time I listen to it, I never skip a track on it. Some are better than others, sure, but they're all great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCC_AvmHpR4 Dieselboy's The Destroyer mixes - 2 mixes (one from 2014 and one from 2017) which showcase Dieselboy at his best, seamlessly mixing together some of the filthiest DNB you'll hear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xouOnHxYUw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJxKXOTNXjc Submerged - Ohm Resistance Spring 2019 DJ Mix (HEAVY AS FUUUUUUUUUCK) S.P.Y's BBC Radio 1 Essential Mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mM03G5kJTg Andy C's Ultra 2014 mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1yB5QV-mHU The Hospital Records Podcast is a great way to get turned onto new tunes/artists. It usually comes out weekly, is usually an hour long or more and is usually hosted by Hospital co-owner/London Elektricity himself, Tony Colman. It's also fantastic to work out to! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IRiuLy0IW4 _________________________________________________________________________________ Auspex posted:How is DnB released? I'm sure even with all the material here, there's still a lot I left out. So go ahead and discuss! 
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EMUpirate posted:Thanks for the new thread Rageaholic Monkey! OP needs a little more info, but it's a great start! Just noticed last Jungle in the OP, love that tune! Any suggestions for what I should add to the OP? I know one thing I forgot: As far as DNB mixes go, there are a ton of them out there, but here's a few I can recommend: All the Hospital Records Podcasts. I've only heard a few of these myself, so I'm not really sure which one exactly to recommend first (maybe someone else here can help me out with this), but every one I've heard has been stellar. Hospital Records' "Sick Music" - A really solid double-album full of mixes featuring Hospital artists, as well as up-and-coming DNB artists. The consensus in the last thread was that this mix is fantastic, and I agree. Definitely check this one out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKBrW5tqqH0 High Contrast's FabricLive25 Mix - High Contrast is one of my absolute favorites when it comes to DNB, mainly because of how well put together everything he comes out with is. The energy never stops flowing with this one. The end is arguably my favorite part, HC's track "Days Go By" (his version of Stevie Nicks' "Edge Of Seventeen"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdLzEXoHXg0
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Paul Kersey posted:Hey guys. I'm looking to get into some more Drum & Bass. Would it be too much to ask for someone give me a top 10 list of what they think are the definitive Drum & Bass albums (if that's even possible)? Already listed 4 in my OP, but here, have another 6 in addition to those: TC's Evolution Tayla's Soul Survivors Cyantific's Ghetto Blaster Noisia's Split The Atom DJ Fresh's Escape From Planet Monday D.Kay's Individual Soul Keep in mind that these are just a few DNB albums that I think are cohesive. This is also just one way of listening to drum and bass. There's a large percentage (I think larger than the percentage of albums) of singles/mixes, so just take this as an introduction.
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That's another thing I didn't put in the OP, 90s DNB. Here's some to rectify that: LTJ Bukem - Music: This one was also included in Tayla's Soul Survivors mix that I recommended earlier in the thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWR3HppFUxM Roni Size & Reprazent - Trust Me: From their album New Forms, which is widely regarded to be one of the best DNB albums of the 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxeStgwA6gk Goldie - Timeless: From his album Timeless, also one of the best DNB albums of the 90s, and considered by many to be the best DNB album ever. This is just half of the song because YouTube only allows 10 minutes, but you can get a sense of the scale of this track, even though it's only a preview of sorts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxbLIgQft_I There's also the radio station MSX FM from Grand Theft Auto 3, which contained a pretty good mix of DNB/jungle tracks. This track's from 2001, but it's still got that older DNB style to it: Omni Trio - First Contact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJHK9WOSBTY Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Apr 14, 2010 |
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chrix posted:Also, every Dieselboy mix will cure that "hard and dirty" itch. Check out 6ixth Session, The Dungeonmaster's Guide, and Substance D. Some people scoff at BUYING actual DJ mixes, but Dieselboy's are definitely worth owning. This. Dramatika, if you want darker, harder stuff, this is where you need to look. Like I said, I started listening to DNB with Dieselboy's The HUMAN Resource, and I still consider it to be some of the best dark DNB. That and Substance D are good to start with. I haven't listened to Dungeonmaster's Guide or 6th Session, but if they've got the same quality as HUMAN Resource and Substance D, hell, get 'em all. Here's are some examples of what these mixes have in store for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtKxPc-an20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3uMNlYua_k Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Apr 14, 2010 |
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Apr 14, 2010 22:43
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SUBFRIES posted:Here is the mix I did for the DOA x UAF DJ Mix competition, that was due today: Done Your mix is killer, by the way. You used some awesome tunes and the flow is incredible!
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It's always been one of my favorites I love the way it seamlessly blends together jazzy elevator music and DNB. It's so relaxing to listen to, while also getting the blood flowing. On paper, it probably doesn't sound like a great idea, but the way it's executed is just marvelous. I really want him to make another album, but Individual Soul is great, and if that's the only album he comes out with, I'd be okay with that. It's a few years old and I still haven't worn it out.
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Westmountdke posted:You guys cannot suggest listening to Pendulum without posting the most epic video of all time  And then there's their remix of The Prodigy's Voodoo People, which is actually epic in the literal sense (both the song and the video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKXKWBcaV3A Seriously, Pendulum has some loving massive tracks. I know In Silico gets poo poo on a lot for not being "real drum-and-bass" or whatever (as evidenced in the old thread), but listen to tracks like Midnight Runner and tell me that's not some goddamn awesome DNB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaDvEWawcCA Anyway, most DNB fans are more taken with Hold Your Colour. It's got both dark/hard AND light/liquid sounding stuff, so it's accessible to basically everyone who listens to DNB. And it's one of the most essential albums for any DNB fan for this reason. 14 tracks, most of which are extremely memorable, with songs on both sides of the spectrum. What's not to love? I've never talked to a fan of drum-and-bass that didn't like Hold Your Colour, honestly.
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EMUpirate posted:Probably late to the party about this, but Sick Music 2 is exactly that.  This track is blowing my mind. Just the right dose of all the right elements to make a great DNB tune. Definitely going to try to get a hold of Sick Music 2 as soon as I can.
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Dell_Zincht posted:Speaking of sick drops, why the gently caress has this never been released? In addition to being an absolutely crazy track on its own, it was also one of the best parts of their live show when I saw them a year ago! Dell_Zincht posted:Speaking of High Contrast remixes, this is brilliant. I don't know why I hadn't heard this before, but it's awesome! feedtheid posted:Can we just get it out of the way and say that basically everything High Contrast touches is gold? He has an lp out in June or something and it's gonna roooooooock These are pretty much my sentiments exactly. Everything he remixes is excellent, his albums are top-notch, and his DJ mixes never fail to get me going. Dude's on fire.
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Apr 30, 2010 17:42
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Dell_Zincht posted:Immunize was played last night on Zane Lowe's Drum n Bass Takeover. For those not in the know, it's the collaboration between Pendulum and Liam Howlett of The Prodigy. loving NICE. This should silence the naysayers. Also, this is probably my most anticipated album of the entire year. I've loved their first two albums for years, and everything I've heard off Immersion so far points to it being loving stellar.
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Incoherence posted:Apparently Steven Wilson (of Porcupine Tree) and In Flames will also be making appearances on that album. You'd think by now I'd be used to weird Steven Wilson collaborations... I read that on their Wiki the other day and was wondering how the hell that would come out. I don't think there are any versions out yet to sample, though.
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Dell_Zincht posted:Have a three second teaser of the chorus. The song will be called Self Versus Self, by the way. Well that was....something 
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Auspex posted:OP would you object to me writing a bit of extra stuff for the original post? You covered a lot of bases but theres a lot of stuff missed out that desperately needs mentioning! Let me know what you want me to add in and I will. Or, if you want to type up a megapost filled with information I left out, go right ahead! I just don't think we need a new thread already. And really, I was just trying to cover the basics of DNB that the last thread's OP lacked severely.
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Alman posted:Official Pendulum preview is up on youtube - about a minute of each track: Aw gently caress, I really want to see this but I'm on my iPhone and for some reason these videos aren't supported on the iPhone. Not sure why, exactly. Guess I'll have to wait til I get home from work later. While searching around, I saw there was a video titled " Pendulum Immersion Part 5" and it was 10 minutes long. So has the album leaked or is that a fake?
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Alman posted:I believe that's just part 5 of the recording of the album preview show they did back in January. Oh yeah, right. I'm surprised it hasn't leaked. It comes out in like 10 days, so even if it did, I'll just wait til I can buy a CD. I saw a picture on Rob's Twitter of him unboxing a box of CDs, so maybe that has something to do with why it hasn't leaked, like the band just got copies in themselves or something.
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Oh my GOD. I'm just now getting to listen to the previews, and they're even better than I was expecting. This is seriously going to be Hold Your Colour Pt. 2, but from what I'm hearing, it sounds like it may surpass HYC in some ways. Cannot loving wait to have a copy of this album in my car. Driving around listening to In Silico cranked up has been one of my absolute favorite things to do for the past couple years, and I'm sure Immersion will continue the tradition
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Dell_Zincht posted:Welp, Immersion has leaked, and it's not the crappy version from a few days ago with the Matter preview material included. Haha there's no point in getting a leak of this since it comes out a week from today. And because I've already heard a minute of each song. That's enough to tease me until next Monday when I can have the retail CD in my car. My only question: Does The Island Part One sound as fruity on the album as that track's YouTube preview led me to believe?
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VolumeOverTalent posted:Yes. But Part Two more than makes up for it. Oh no doubt Listening to the previews, when I got to part 1, all I could think was "what is this poo poo?", then part 2 came on and that immediately changed to "gently caress YEAHHHHH" I can't wait to listen to this album from start to finish!
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May 17, 2010 20:01
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I don't mind their drums at all, and I could probably listen to them forever and not get tired of them. But I guess I'm just a Pendulum fanboy 
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May 17, 2010 21:22
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They're one of the biggest DNB acts, though. Giving them a seperate thread would be like giving every metal or hardcore or dubstep act their own thread every time one releases a new album. It's just not necessary since the respective genres all have their own active megathreads. This will die down once everyone has their fill of the new album, but for now, it's a pretty big event as far as mainstream DNB goes.
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Somehow I ended up listening to the leak of Immersion anyway. The leak is low quality for the most part, so I can't exactly judge the album correctly based on that. But I will say that aside from a few throwaway tracks, it's very promising. I had to pre-order it from HMV and get it shipped to me via air mail because it doesn't appear to be up on US stores' sites yet. Amazon has the import copy listed, but that's it. And that's $36. With shipping from HMV, I think mine came out to around $19. Just a heads-up for anyone outside the UK who wants to buy this on release day. I'm not sure if it'll be in big box stores on Monday when it comes out, so I took the guaranteed route. I'm also getting new car speakers installed just in time to listen to this bad boy 
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HAI posted:This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7GZV0mTvNU ? Really? It the guy from loving Porcupine Tree singing some inane inspirational lyrics over a loving limp beat and completely awful synths. Like, the break actually sounds completely off at times. And more than just being a terrible track, it's utterly undanceable, not a dnb song in any way. I'd be actually embarrassed if someone caught me listening to this. Yeah, this is probably my least favorite song on the album. Or tied with The Island Part 1 for that, at least. (I realized earlier when I was listening to the leak that The Island Part 1 is like an electronic version of What Sarah Said by Death Cab For Cutie, or any number of mediocre ATB tracks really. That completely ruined it for me.) I love Porcupine Tree and I love Pendulum, but they really don't go well together at all. I don't know which one of them thought collaborating would be a good idea, but whoever it is was wrong. Self Vs Self (the In Flames collaboration track) on the other hand, that's hilarious and kind of awesome in a gimmicky sort of way. It's basically a metal song with some typical Pendulum beats and Rob singing the non-screaming vocal parts. Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 03:12 on May 19, 2010 |
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pokecapn posted:Are we listening to the same metal, because the track sure sounds a lot more like lovely emo hardcore than anything metal. You know what I mean. It's completely generic, but gets taken to a new level of ridiculousness with Pendulum's signature breaks and Rob singing over parts of it.
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Tough crowd! Alright, how 'bout I just say that Self vs. Self is stupid fun and leave it at that?
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I found a track last night that I hadn't heard before, Sub Focus' remix of Rusko's "Hold On" featuring Amber Coffman. It sounds like a really awesome Sub Focus track with some hip-hop beats thrown in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI2b7qXUlnE
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I know we're trying to shy away from only talking about the new Pendulum album, but I just wanted to mention that they posted a story on their website about the status of Immersion in the US. Turns out it's not being released here until later in the year, so if you live in the US and want to purchase it before then, it looks like you'll need to import it.
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VolumeOverTalent posted:I started a new thread to try and keep the Pendulum discussion away from this one. Thanks man I was thinking about making one, but you beat me to it! I'm on my iPhone right now, but I'll add this to the OP when I get to my computer later.
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Threatis posted:dear Auspex and Rageaholic Monkey, i am beginning to gather than neither of you have ever gone to a jungle party ever, would this be assuming correct? There's a weekly DNB/jungle night at a local club, and I've been to that a couple times. The tunes spun there were a bit too repetitive for my tastes, and there was barely anyone in attendance the times I went, so I stopped going after a couple times. And Auspex, Jesus Christ. I'll either copy/paste that whole thing into the OP or take sections out and add them into the existing OP later. Thanks for all your effort! That's really comprehensive
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Okay, I updated the OP a little to add in some quotes from Auspex's wonderful megapost (as well as a link straight to the post), and I changed around some of my examples too. Also, zeldadude posted:oh my god netsky - secret agent is the best song I've heard this year. Hits the spot reallll good. Oh man. Thanks so much for this! I hadn't heard anything of Netsky's so far, but I looked up some tracks on YouTube including Secret Agent. Definitely some of the best new DNB stuff I've heard so far this year Count me in for another "can't wait for Netsky's upcoming first album" vote.
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Yeah, I don't know what that is. It's too slow to be DNB, but it's got the same kind of bass going on. Don't know the artist either  Sorry man!
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Yep, that's the one! Proppa Bear's a cool guy and his sets are the best, though out of the few times I went, he only got up there once. I also saw him at Voodoo Fest a couple years ago and he was awesome then too.
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EMUpirate posted:There's tons by lots of different producers, so there's not necessarily a "chill-n-bass" style. Here's a few examples... drat, this is awesome! Wasn't aware they came out with another album after Nobody's Out There. If the rest of the album sounds like this, I'm gonna have to check it out ASAP. Everything you posted is great, really. I love that London Elektricity track too. D.Kay is pretty chill too. I think I've already mentioned him in here, but in case I haven't, he's got kind of a jazz fusion/DNB crossover thing going on for the most part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI0q8KKHlus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-DPtRp8Dec He's only got one album out that I know of (Individual Soul), but it's real solid and you should definitely check it out if you're looking for chiller DNB.
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Speaking of Netsky, apparently his debut self-titled album is officially out! It's available to purchase on Hospital Records' website.
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I'm loving the hell out of Netsky's album. Most exciting DNB release for me in a long time It's very, very sick.
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I'll just post the first song and you can decide for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfVuJ1bIcbg He's on Hospital, and it sounds like other Hospital stuff for the most part (think bits and pieces of High Contrast, Cyantific, Danny Byrd, etc. all thrown together). It's really loving good, though. Don't take that the wrong way.
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To some people, Squarepusher is DNB. I wouldn't label him that way myself, but this isn't my first time hearing that label given to him. I don't know what I'd call Squarepusher, actually. It's got DNB elements but it's not like it sounds anything like, say, High Contrast.
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cheese-cube posted:So I haven't heard much talk of Mistabishi in this thread so far (There was a bit of chat in the other thread). I listened to Printer Jam back when it first dropped and was hooked. Mistabishi's got some insane tunes. The Light's Really Bad is my favorite, too, and it's a great way to start off a mix. And Printer Jam is so goofy and fun that you can't help but love it. Definitely download Drop if you're a fan of Hospital stuff. Hadn't heard about that scandal, though. Kinda sucks, but he was on a big label and getting a fair amount of buzz, and if you're starting to become a big name like that, you should probably know better, but I don't know how all that works. As for Bukem, I've only heard a few of his releases, but what I have heard has been awesome, and I definitely appreciate his contributions to the beginnings of DNB. Looking at his discography, it seems like he hasn't been as active recently as he once was. Though he did do one of the FabricLive mixes last year. I haven't heard that yet, but I need to get on that.
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Dramatika, I live in New Orleans and don't know of many DNB events there The only regular event I've been to / know of is that weekly DNB/Jungle night at the Dragon's Den, but that's on Thursdays. Big acts pass through here every now and then, but none are coming through this weekend that I've heard of.
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I know this is anything but a new topic for me, but Netsky's remix of Pendulum's "Witchcraft" is pretty sick. It turns it into something that's actually drum-n-bass  But seriously, much better than the original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwNg_X2OxNY
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