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I thought Shivers was meant to be pretty good looking prior to getting his face hosed up? He's still pretty young and earnest then, didn't yet have the marks of a veteran fighter.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2020 21:36 |
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# ¿ May 8, 2024 23:01 |
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Stour Nightfall is clearly meant to be handsome in a byronic badboy kind of way as well
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2020 20:07 |
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I think it would be interesting to see DeVito play Bayaz without really yucking it up, see him play the UNLIMITED POWER scene at the end of Last Argument of Kings without turning into Frank Reynolds
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2020 16:51 |
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Question about the Trilogy: how nihilistic and grimdark does it get? I'm about 100 pages into the First Law, and have liked it so far, but I hear people repeatedly say the series gets incredibly depressing, which I'm not necessarily looking for right now. For context, I can deal with something like Malazan fine, so it's not that I can't deal with anything dark, but certain things (graphic descriptions of sexual assault, for example) would be too much for me. I'm also not looking for some Bakker-esque "Nothing matters, life is misery, oblivion is a blessing" type thing in particular. Off the top of my head I don't think Abercrombie goes to the sexual assault well once. It's depressing in that characters make poor choices that end poorly for them and sometimes get hosed by events completely outside their control but it's not Bakker style overwrought nihilism either, very very occasionally someone even makes a positive life choice and becomes a better person from it as a result! If you like it so far I'd say stick with it, Abercrombie is one of the best writers working in the genre today imo No Dignity fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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Hiro Protagonist posted:If I got spoiled on the villain for the First Law Trilogy, how hosed am I? A friend accidentally let it slip and realized that was a big spoiler. Spoilers are mostly fake idea, if you want to read the books go ahead and read them. The increasingly obvious bad guy being the bad guy isn't really a big deal
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 16:09 |
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Orso getting owned by circumstances beyond his control in increasingly grander ways was really funny though, definitely one of the strongest recurring themes of the trilogy
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2021 17:35 |
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That bit where the narrator directly started laying into the Burners for being obsessed with ideological purity over sensible policy decisions did feel a bit middle aged centrist dad on twitter
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2021 16:14 |
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Crespolini posted:How should the revolution have worked out? The most interesting outcome would have been Judge and Risinau overcoming their shitiness and building something new, it doesn't even have to stick around and the novel could have still ended with the Leo counter-revolution and all that but it didn't have to lead up with such a rote, boilterplate depiction of a revolution eating its own
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2021 21:30 |
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Bayaz going all Palpatine with SEVEN SEALS AND SEVEN SEALS REVERSED at the end of Last Argument of Kings was pretty sick too
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2021 15:05 |
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Warden posted:I've been wondering how many people criticizing how the revolution is depicted in the Wisdom of Crowds are not from a country which had an actual revolution that turned to poo poo at some point in their history. I mean I'm gonna guess most of the people ITT are American...
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2021 19:37 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:I wonder if there are monarchists who chafe at the books’ depiction of aristocracy I'd doubt it because the rightful king is the most sympathetically portrayed character in the trilogy
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2021 20:30 |
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The flashforward at the end is a naked sequel hook, there's absolutely going to be another series in the works
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2022 18:58 |
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I recall him doing the fakeout sex scene he did with Monza and Shivers again but more chaste? Anyway the thing that really made it YA was the happy ending imo, they shoved that genie all the way back in the bottle at end after what really should have started a new age of warfare with the weapons of the past
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2022 17:20 |
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zerofiend posted:I'm reminded of how Terry Pratchett said something about the only thing that made his YA books YA was the age of the protagonists and language being a bit more straightforward but otherwise changing little about the content. Well, he took out the jokes too
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2022 21:00 |
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Hughmoris posted:If I'm being honest, that bit at the end was probably my favorite chunk of the book. Bayaz's plans going to poo poo has him pissed off, and now he's in the lab tinkering with poo poo he shouldn't touch. There was a distinct lack of sauce in the last trilogy imo, give me that high fantasy intruding on the early modern world again
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2022 22:31 |
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Brutor Fartknocker posted:Also original trilogy spoilers Is there more of main character killing they're friends through the series? It surprised me and was narratively disturbing when Logan killed his friends and Bayaz killed/sealed away Yulwei, which like, good writing, I liked those characters, that really sticks in the mind, but if it's something that happens regularly throughout the series it's not shocking, just boringly grim. Occasionally, but not so often that it comes predictable or cliche
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 21:52 |
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The whole king of poisons scam is the funniest scene in the entire series imo, Morveer is an all time great
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 21:22 |
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Tosk posted:I am very dangerously posting in this thread just to say I'm about 3/4ths through The Blade Itself and quite liking it! I know absolutely nothing about anything Joe Abercrombie has written. Do I need to know anything going forward? A man lost in the desert must take accept water no matter its source
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2022 19:10 |
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Jose Valasquez posted:Just read them, it's better to do it than live with the fear of it Say one thing for Joe Abercrombie, he could coin a good aphorism
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2022 19:14 |
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# ¿ May 8, 2024 23:01 |
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People go to see sumo fights where there's 15 minutes of ceremony and build up and then like four seconds of action, the dueling contest really isn't that egregious
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2023 14:21 |