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John Charity Spring posted:the end of Last Argument of Kings where Collem West gets magical radiation poisoning and will probably die was a bit harsh, but he's the exception. That was just a dick move.
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Apr 18, 2010 10:54
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Mr.48 posted:I hope he's better than in Last Argument of Kings, because he was a total bitch. You'd probably say the exact same thing about any of the characters from The First Law if you didn't see things from their point of view.
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Apr 19, 2010 00:42
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Mr.48 posted:What? Another novel set in the north and no mention of Ninefingers? Outrageous! I don't know, I'm not entirely sure I'd like to see Logen again. I like him, but I think his story ended well enough that bringing him in again might ruin it. I'm getting the same sort of feeling with Best Served Cold. I know it's ... right for certain people to be where they are and enter into the story, but I can't help but feel that he's pulling in tried and true characters just because they're familiar. I don't disapprove, there are plenty of new characters thrown into the mix. Bummey fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Apr 19, 2010 |
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Apr 19, 2010 04:00
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For those of us who haven't finished Best Served Cold yet, let's try to be wary of spoilers. Even little details like Shenkt and the banking house of Valint and Balk. We don't want another ASOIAF thread here.
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Apr 19, 2010 06:27
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They're still great characters and the books are a lot of fun, so I am definitely not complaining!
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Apr 19, 2010 09:00
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Financial Panther posted:I really love his style of writing too. I was laughing all the way through the Ferro/Logen sex scene . Just wait for the [halfway through Best Served Cold] Shivers/Monza sex scene in Visserine. That one's loving ridiculous. Grand Prize Winner posted:I thought that West lived. At least, there's no clear indication that he died. I hope He dead. Evfedu posted:it's just so refreshing to hear Logen trip over a wall, squawk, and bugger his ankle up in between his time as The Bloody Nine. The clumsiness displayed by some of the characters seems to be a continuing joke. He should also learn some other words than squawk and croak because god drat, people croak and squawk all the time. "Oh poo poo, my foot fell off" he croaked. "Shut up and put it in me" she croaked. "I just breathed in a lot of smoke and now my throat is raw" he croaked (ok, that one is acceptable.) Bummey fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Apr 20, 2010 |
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Apr 20, 2010 21:56
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Apr 20, 2010 22:02
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Evfedu posted:Last Argument of Kings spoilers: West had to die, from the moment he beat the poo poo out of his sister. I don't know, Ardee was an insufferable bitch.
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Apr 21, 2010 00:02
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He hasn't come up with anything really ground breaking. Barbarians of the frozen north (I groaned quite loudly when I saw the words frozen north appear in a description of them), middle eastern analog Gurkish, European analog Styria, wizards and demons... It's the stories and characters that make it shine, not exactly the world or setting. And I have another firefox tap open that's looking at naughty bits while I type this.
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Apr 21, 2010 22:11
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Smashurbanipal posted:It would be fascinating to read an Abercrombie story that has one of the Eaters being the focus. It would fit in perfectly with his style of presenting a character and getting the reader to empathize with them and then exposing the depravity and fuckedupedness of said character. Best Served Cold - Shenkt is an eater.  I was actually pretty taken back when he started to carve up Lucky Nim, but then I remembered that cannibalism is what makes an Eater an Eater, and all made sense. His super kill guy fighting powers are even more dumb and annoying when seen from his perspective, but his personal philosophy is surprisingly kind hearted. You know, aside from all the murdering.
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Apr 22, 2010 16:09
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Skellen posted:Ok, I'm starting Best Served Cold and I like Shivers, but please let me know if Logen makes an appearance. Just a yes or no, please. I've got 20% of the book left to read: No.
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Apr 26, 2010 08:29
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Tornhelm posted:One of the things I've always wondered about Abercrombie's world - who would win in a fight if both had plain weapons and both were in good health between Logen in Bloody-Nine mode and a "Furious" West. West in "Furious mode" (if you can even call it that) Beat the poo poo out of his defenseless, oval office of a sister (who totally had it coming) Bit a dude in the face Logen in Bloody-Nine mode Survived 10+ duels with the best fighters in the north and took mortal wounds in each one that would have killed any other living human On more than one occasion killed dozens of shanka without taking so much as a glancing blow Murders everything in sight with indiscriminate rage Killed Fenris The Feared: a near invulnerable, centuries old demonspawn It's really no contest. Logen has some sort of supernatural ability, West just got really angry. Best Served Cold: Shivers showed a sign of going into a similar berserk as Logen, just without the friend murdering. It only happened once and nothing really came of it though.
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Apr 26, 2010 09:12
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TShields posted:Anyone else see Friendly as an agitated Brian Posehn? If you've ever seen his stand-up, he does a weird squawky pissed off voice, and after Friendly's "Apologize to my loving dice!" flip-out, he's all I see for the character. Not really, but I'm glad I just finished the book because that's going to taint my vision of him. I really liked Friendly. He's definitely my favorite in the book, but Morveer comes up a close second. Well, Cosca of course, but I like him a lot more in The First Law when we always saw him from someone else's point of view. It's not always a good idea to put the reader into the mind of the character, as much of a fan favorite as they might be.
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Apr 30, 2010 07:23
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TShields posted:Its hard to get much more badass imagery than a shiny steel eye. What about if he put a knife in his eye socket? That'd be pretty badass.
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May 4, 2010 20:53
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Tornhelm posted:What you should take away from that is that given the right circumstances, all Northmen are crazy fuckers. Personally I think he was more Black Dow than Ninefingers though. Notice how in the beginning he was quoting Logen, near the middle and the end he was non-stop quoting Black Dow.
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May 5, 2010 18:03
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A Nice Boy posted:I'm a sucker for deep, layered worldbuilding, and that's my only gripe with this series so far. The world is barely described in a lot of cases, so it feels like a bunch of disconnected personalities floating around in a world I can't really imagine other than fairly loose descriptions like "Argiont: castle." Does this get a bit better as the series goes on? Nope. Read some China Mieville if you want 2000 word descriptions of every dirty alley the main character walks past.
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May 11, 2010 22:15
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ultrachrist posted:Also I didn't read the other books because I did not want to get involved in a trilogy. Yeah hey, you should probably read them! They're really good.
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May 18, 2010 00:17
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A Nice Boy posted:Welp, just finished the trilogy and moving onto BSC, but goddamn, wanted to vent a little: One of the things I like most about these books is how everyone gets hosed. No one ends better than they started. I hate happy endings, and it's pretty refreshing see this dismal poo poo play out.
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Jun 25, 2010 21:26
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A Nice Boy posted:I hate unrealistically happy endings, but I wouldn't mind a character or two finding a little bit of peace. In his own way, Shivers found peace with himself.
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Jun 25, 2010 22:45
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Meningism posted:Finished Before They Are Hanged, why does that tsundere demon-lady call her companions "pinks" when she is colourblind? It's not a glaring flaw. It's not even a flaw. Logen himself called her out on this, asking her why she called everyone pinks when she couldn't see color. It basically came down to programmed racial prejudice. She didn't actually know (or care) his or anyone else's skin color, but she'd been exposed to the racism all her life that it just came naturally to her. She's still a lovely character.
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Jun 28, 2010 23:07
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A Nice Boy posted:Yeah, what the hell should I read after Best Served Cold? Empire in Black and Gold by Adrian Tchaikovsky is a pretty OK trilogy. Weird setting, sort of a low fantasy industrial revolution with varying races of people who carry traits based on their insect relation. It's about a cluster of feuding, inwardly focused, city states in an area known as the Lowlands, being invaded by a foreign Wasp army that they refuse to acknowledge as a threat. You follow a group of people fighting against the wasps, trying to unite the Lowlands (to little effect) against the invaders. It's entertaining enough, nothing really amazing. I haven't given up on the books down yet, but they certainly haven't caught my attention like Joe's "just one more chapter and then I'll go to sl-- oh god it's 5am" series did. vvv Also, no elves in this series. Bummey fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Jun 30, 2010 |
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Jun 30, 2010 02:03
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Another book? So soon? Will this mad man never stop?
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Jul 17, 2010 16:50
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Kneel Before Zog posted:You'd think 3 guys in an alley wouldn't seem like such a big deal for this Conan-esque barbarian. You've got to be realistic. All it takes is a split second to slip up and take a knife in the kidneys.
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Jul 28, 2010 06:04
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Hughmoris posted:I wish Abercrombie would write a book about the early years of Logen Ninefingers. I was thinking how that would never sell because of how dark and bloody it would be but then I realized, his current books aren't exactly a ray of sunshine. I'll say this again, but I don't want to know any more about Logen. I liked how he showed us two very different sides of his past, leading us to sympathize with one and drat him for the other. Some characters are better left as they are. Like Cosca, he didn't need to show up in BSC. I still liked him, but I thought he was a better character in the trilogy.
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Jul 28, 2010 20:54
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Mr.48 posted:From Joe's blog: Honest and loyal in their meaning of the words, of course. Different cultures, boy-o.
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Aug 20, 2010 05:03
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Casao posted:The manuscript for book 3 has apparently been delivered - it's not a press release, but it seems decent enough to get my hopes up for. It's about drat time. loving Scott Lynch! quote:No word on book 4 being started, though. poo poo! The books weren't amazing, the writing was pretty bad in parts, and the stories alternated between being pretty drat good and pretty drat awful (Casino heist versus stupid pirate side story).... but I liked the world he built so I've been keeping a close eye on his (lack of) development. And about Joe Abercrombie, since this is his thread after all. I'm really looking forward to Heroes. The First Law was fantastic, BSC less so but still pretty great. I'm dying over here, especially since I'm almost done with Shadows of the Apt (another series with 2-3 more books planned)!
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Aug 25, 2010 21:13
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Daveski posted:Also, whenever Bayaz does any kind of magic, it drains him physically quite a lot, so it's unlikely he'd be manipulating Jezal constantly like that. sarsbar posted:loving Bayaz. gently caress him. Uhh.. Guys. It's extremely obvious that Bayaz directly imbued Jezal with superman juice during the tournament's final round. Yeah, it drained the gently caress out of him like all of his demon-fueled magic does, but there should be no argument that he did it. Pretty sure he did it a second time, but I can't recall exactly where in the book that happened or I'd look it up.
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Aug 26, 2010 05:49
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KidDynamite posted:I just started The Blade Itself and I have got to say the writing is excellent! Jesus I've never been so pleased with an author's writing in fantasy fiction before. Off to lose a few more hours of sleep. You just wait for the sex scenes. Those will blow your mind! 
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Oct 10, 2010 18:32
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Don't read A Song of Ice and Fire. Trust me. It's just not worth it.
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Nov 15, 2010 10:37
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IRQ posted:
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Dec 28, 2010 02:51
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Hollis posted:I'd really recommend the Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch it's part of the Gentleman Bastard series. If you hate authors that stop in the middle of a series, you should probably stay away from these. Republic of Thieves has been delayed 4 years and it's going GRRM strong with no signs of stopping. Yeah, yeah, he's been suffering from bad depression (I know from ongoing experience that clinical depression is a bitch and a half), but that doesn't make the whole situation any less frustrating. That said they're entertaining reads, but not without their faults. If you can avoid being a total goon and look past the problems, you should be able to enjoy them for what they are. Bummey fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jan 2, 2011 |
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Jan 2, 2011 05:27
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keiran_helcyan posted:Joe Abercrombie is the anti-fantasy author. He puts out books on schedule, isn't 300 pounds, doesn't have a nasty lumberjack beard Lumberjack beards are a thing of beauty and magnificence, wondrous and terrible to behold. The writer you're referring to does not have a lumberjack beard. You watch your words! 
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Jan 6, 2011 02:41
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no pantsu posted:If you haven't listened to the audio book yet for TFL, I recommend you do so right away. Steven Pacey does a fantastically amazing job, he made the books come alive better than any TV series possibly could. And I don't usually enjoy re-reading books as much the 2nd time through either. He just did all the voices so drat well.. like for example has his narrative voice, then a voice for Glokta's thoughts, and a superb Glokta voice complete with lisp.. the way he switches between them all so effortlessly is really something to behold. hard to describe with words how great it all is What are the sex scenes like? I don't even want to think of someone reading those aloud. Gross. Bummey fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Jan 9, 2011 |
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Jan 9, 2011 04:42
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brizna posted:I'm hesitant about starting the first law trilogy because word has it that the ending sucks. My question: how bad is it? GRRM isn't that bad because the characters that get bitched over all have big flaws which make it somewhat deserving. Can the same be said for first law or will the end just depress the poo poo out of me for the sake of being depressing and no other reason? Are there any redeeming qualities about it? The ending is loving great. What are you talking about? Don't hesitate, just read this poo poo.
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Jan 9, 2011 07:51
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Jan 11, 2011 04:39
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Arglebargle III posted:Jezal comes out happy .... but right now he's living his dream. Huh, no he's not. By the end he has come to the full realization that he's an incompetent putz and fully at the mercy of Glokta, who in turn is fully at the mercy of Bayaz. He knows he's nothing but a puppet, a fraud to the throne and a laughing stock for everyone who knows the truth. Sure, he does act out his moments of power I'M THE KING but after exercising that he sinks back down into a deeper depression and hopelessness about his situation. Jezal is one of the most miserable characters by the end of the series. At least other people have lost limbs or have magical radiation poisoning or flat out died, but that's an easy end compared to Jezal who has to live a lie every day of his life. Bummey fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jan 12, 2011 |
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Jan 12, 2011 00:08
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IRQ posted:Do we still need to spoiler tag? I will but it seems pointless after 14 pages for books that have been out years. Dude, I got pissed off at Family Guy last week for spoiling Citizen Kane for me. Yeah, that 70 year old movie. There is never a time when it is OK to spoil a story for someone. Ever. Always assume that someone out there is brand new to the series and by neglecting to use spoiler tags you are ruining their enjoyment of it. Yes, even A Song of Ice and Fire. Especially that.
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Jan 13, 2011 03:14
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Ornamented Death posted:Look at all of you, with your regular hardcovers or even paperbacks - I just preordered my signed/numbered copy of Before They Are Hanged Look at all of you with your paper books, second hand tree genocide. I just use ebooks because I don't hate the environment. 
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Hughmoris posted:Anyone else reading through The Heroes right now? Not until February 11th, you rat bastard!
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