Suxpool posted:I'd say keep reading because gently caress those other books that are supposed to be awesome and gently caress the people who told you there are more awesome fantasy writers than Joe Abercrombie. Am I the only one that noticed this little nugget?
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2015 04:44 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:18 |
A bit of an odd request, but anyone have a copy of the ARC for Half the World they'd be willing to part with? US or UK, doesn't matter (though be aware that I can't pay as much for a UK version since I have to factor in shipping).
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2015 06:08 |
You know there are three more books, right?
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 03:11 |
I really think you're confusing closure with "the story didn't end how I wanted/expected it to." Abercrombie wrapped most everything up, except, as it happens, the one thing you're saying was wrapped up effectively; you don't actually learn the fate of that character until later (though you can make a pretty good assumption, as you did). Sure, he left himself openings for future books, but not at the expense of the story he was telling.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 04:11 |
Snowman_McK posted:Maybe, but the Bayaz reveal feels like the set up to another story. Ending where it did feels incomplete. I guess it is an ending, but only in a "Ha, gently caress you, no happy ending" kind of way. Sorta? You were right when you said Bayaz is Gandalf as a sociopath taken to a logical conclusion; that's the ending. The whole point is to illustrate that Bayaz has complete control of the Union, most major events of the trilogy happened by his design, and that fighting him is pointless. Just as forewarning, the next three books are not going to resolve that situation beyond further cementing that it's the status quo. I don't know that it will ever get resolved because overthrowing the evil wizard overlord doesn't really seem like a story Abercrombie would tell, at least not for this setting.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 04:34 |
I don't think you'll get any argument that it's cynical, but I also think that's part of the appeal for a lot of people. Still, I think you should probably go ahead and give the other three books a chance. They're all stand-alone stories, and while they don't do much to progress the situation with Bayaz, they have all the elements you like and are just plain better-written in general.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 04:46 |
That would have been a terrible ending. Just really awful.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2015 02:40 |
The only one I felt was padded out to any extent was Red Country, but even there it wasn't terrible.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2015 01:13 |
The scene towards the end when Glama Golden realizes how well and truly hosed he is is one of my favorites in the series.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2016 01:54 |
I never disliked Lamb, but seeing him through other characters' eyes in a way that was largely absent from the trilogy certainly changed my perception of him.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2016 22:48 |
You can also just order from the Book Depository and get free shipping.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 17:28 |
Grand Prize Winner posted:I paid like twice what I would have for the US version (when you include shipping) so my cover aesthetic matches the first trilogy. I feel like an idiot and also proud that I care about that. Man if you're paying that much, you should be getting a signed copy.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2016 14:46 |
Clinton1011 posted:He's based out of there and has a much better EU publisher. Or so I believe is the case. It's not just limited to Abercrombie, it's widespread across fantasy and sci-fi.
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# ¿ May 21, 2016 19:46 |
Destro posted:I wonder why they even have separate covers at all, at least at initial release I would guess it would be cheaper just to go with one cover and call it good. Well it's almost always different publishers for the US and UK. Sometimes there's even a third publisher for Canada. Edit: This is a couple years old, but it's relevant.
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# ¿ May 21, 2016 22:56 |
Sjonkel posted:I haven't read any of Abercrombie's YA stuff. Is it worth it for a guy in his thirties if I've enjoyed everything else he's written? Probably. Calling it YA is kind of weird anyhow, especially once you get past the first book, but that's marketing for you.
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# ¿ May 31, 2016 15:51 |
His Divine Shadow posted:Wait, immortal? What did I miss? Stranger-Come-Knocking works for Bayaz, and is at least rumored to have survived wounds that would kill lesser men. He's probably not immortal, but it wouldn't be a surprise if Bayaz hasn't done something to him.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 20:10 |
It doesn't seem to make much sense to draw any kind of conclusions about who the worse wizard is since we've only directly seen Bayaz. It seems like the default position is to assume that anyone standing against him, when he is clearly so evil, must be the better man/wizard/cannibal/whatever, but that's just the kind of assumption Abercrombie likes to turn on its head. We've seen nothing of Khalul and a very limited amount of his servants and empire, but what we have seen is just as evil as the people Bayaz has and the sort of empire he's set up, albeit in different ways. Just because Khalul's original stated goal was to get revenge on Bayaz doesn't excuse what he's doing. Gaze not into the abyss and all that.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 02:48 |
Beastie posted:Darktower Chat: Please don't insult turds like that.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2017 19:22 |
wellwhoopdedooo posted:In case you haven’t encountered BotL before, the only reason to reply to him is to wind him up and watch him If you (the general you) decide to go this route, don't loving quote him because it defeats the purpose for those of us that have ignored him.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 01:33 |
Just look at his rap sheet and carry on.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2018 01:52 |
quote:The chimneys of industry rise over Adua and the world seethes with new opportunities. But old scores run deep as ever.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2018 17:37 |
https://joeabercrombie.com/the-trouble-with-peace-uk-cover/?fbclid=IwAR0-pTMWPyRUzYpeclgap_ZnMzMTP2xkB1QHaMH2HbPbk0_AwZ7wz98QddI The Trouble With Peace, out September 15th quote:Savine dan Glokta, once Adua’s most powerful investor, finds her judgement, fortune and reputation in tatters. But she still has all her ambitions, and no scruple will be permitted to stand in her way.
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# ¿ May 27, 2020 17:31 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:18 |
The SubPress covers for all of Abercrombie's books have been great.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2020 03:23 |