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My company is reorganizing two departments, moving some of the workload from one to the other to allow more specialization. I've been hoping this means the department getting the additional work would have new manager jobs open to support the additional people. But I can't apply because these new roles are closed postings only available to the people in the affected department. (I currently support said business unit in a coaching and training standpoint and already am involved in a lot of leadership team activities.) I'm so frustrated.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2019 04:20 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:20 |
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momtartin posted:Well gently caress, I didn't get the job I interviewed for two weeks ago. This is the 7th interview I've had in the last 5 months that hasn't landed me a new job. I gotta wonder if I'm doing something wrong in the interviews, or if I just have poo poo luck. Are mock interview services worth looking into? I legit need out of my job because I'm loving miserable there. Have you asked the people you've interviewed with for any feedback?
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2019 23:33 |
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Not a Children posted:Is that an internal interview? Did they actually know what you're making now or is that just a coincidence ? It would be weird for HR to have the final say-so on salaries, they can be overruled if you impress the right people. Keep putting off numbers until they put forward an offer and go from there. Seconding this. I had an offer for a job that was a payband a step below mine and I still got a raise out of it because I knew I impressed the hiring manager and balked at the HR rep offering flat.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2019 16:56 |
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Sydin posted:Yeah ever since the cubical thief and VP ending WFH stories wound down the thread needs a new trainwreck to follow. Got any links for these? I only started following this thread recently.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2019 19:45 |
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Tnuctip posted:Corporate fail: i turned in an expense report that didnt include any alcohol. Granted that i had all my drinks bought for me, but still im a little ashamed. My company stopped covering alcohol as a travel expense (unless entertaining customers) a few years ago so I'm 100% out of pocket on that
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# ¿ May 15, 2019 03:40 |
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Ever have your boss get defensive and shut your suggestion of addressing an issue using the problem-solving methodology we train other business units on that it makes the working session uncomfortable for the rest of your team? Because that happened today and now I get to debrief with my boss about it tomorrow.
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# ¿ May 16, 2019 04:25 |
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The Sean posted:You're probably correct, but be careful about how you approach this if your boss got defensive about you saying this in front of other people. I didn't see this before the call, but I was definitely very deliberate to use "I feel/felt" statements during the debrief and ask if I was not making my points clear. The call didn't go well at all though. She was completely defensive, wasn't hearing me out, and said I was out of line for not falling in with the "team decision" to handle the problem another way. (The team didn't decide anything - it was what she wanted to do the whole time and steamrolled us on.) Working under a lovely leader sucks.
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# ¿ May 17, 2019 04:43 |
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The Sean posted:Well, lesson learned. I could be softer with my wording but it's early: in the "conversation" you had with your boss, conversation is a euphemism. It wasn't about "working things out" or "clarifying your points and having an equal dialog to get the work done in the best way possible." It was a monologue from your boss directing you to stop doing what you are and get you to agree with their direction and apologize for ever not having the same views that they do. There are good bosses out there, but by default you should assume that an honest conversation is not happening. I'm calling back a while to this, but it hit the nail exactly on the head with what happened. I even tried today to ask for her blessing on myself and a teammate who was passionate about the issue to utilize the methodology we use to address the problem completely on our own time. That was again shut down because "it's not a good use of our time" and reaching out to the directors we need feedback from "isn't a good use of their time either". It would have been a two question email. I'm updating my resume.
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# ¿ May 18, 2019 04:35 |
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Dango Bango posted:I'm calling back a while to this, but it hit the nail exactly on the head with what happened. I even tried today to ask for her blessing on myself and a teammate who was passionate about the issue to utilize the methodology we use to address the problem completely on our own time. That was again shut down because "it's not a good use of our time" and reaching out to the directors we need feedback from "isn't a good use of their time either". It would have been a two question email. So today during a meeting my boss brought up the problem we were trying to solve, saying she wanted a draft ready for a meeting with the directors Thursday. Then offhandedly mentions how "we can ask them any questions we might have". t
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# ¿ May 20, 2019 19:48 |
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Volmarias posted:Unless you're personal friends with the owner, never take the counter offer. Yeah this. You're leaving for a reason right?
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# ¿ May 25, 2019 00:18 |
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I'm the guy who posted about getting shut down hard when suggesting an alternative to what my boss recommended where she got super defensive and let me know in no uncertain terms I "need to get on board". Yesterday I got tapped on the shoulder by a director about an opening in his department. Then today met with the director who has a current opening closed to a business unit affected by a re-org. There's apparently not a viable candidate there and it might go to a full open posting like I had hoped. And it's looking like I'm the prime candidate for both jobs
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2019 00:37 |
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FrozenVent posted:Thought: HR people should be criminally liable for their gently caress ups just like engineers are. What kind of situation do you have in mind?
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2019 14:44 |
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Renegret posted:Luckily I'm pretty safe. Please tell me they're going to use open concept for the call center as well. It will be utter chaos
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2019 22:37 |
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Anyone else's company have an odd fascination with hiring ops directors for senior leadership roles?
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2019 12:25 |
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One of my tasks for the day: restate information contained in a Tableau report in a PowerPoint presentation. Applied for the new job today. Feels amazing.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2019 03:17 |
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Someone who wasn't on mute exclaimed "holy poo poo" during a recorded presentation today. (They at least moved away from the mic to where you couldn't hear all of "poo poo". But still hilarious.)
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2019 21:18 |
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gwarm01 posted:I'm putting in a lot of unpaid overtime, taking work home, and doing my best to keep a project with impossible expectations on track. Surely that's worth an exceeds, right? My boss is fair, but I have no idea if our HR department has arbitrary policies like that to limit raises. Hahahahahahha
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2019 04:52 |
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FrozenVent posted:In my experience, if you want a decent salary increase and any kind of career progression, you have to change job. Same experience. Or be head and shoulders above the rest of your department and have the people you report to like you.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2019 13:07 |
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:It's quarterly survey day, and I've marked all answers as STRONGLY AGREE since my manager bitched us out for any less than perfect scores last time. We had our annual survey last month. I wish I could be there when my boss opens her results She's completely oblivious to how frustrated everyone on our team is (almost all of us have updated our resumes this year).
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2019 15:51 |
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:What's going on to cause all the frustration? I need schadenfreude I've posted about my direct run-ins with her before. But here's a list:
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2019 16:13 |
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Dango Bango posted:about terrible boss everyone is frustrated with So I got into town and met a couple of peers for dinner. One told me she applied for another job and it turned out our calls to our boss to tell her were only days apart. They're both also just DONE though. (Not all of it is our boss for the one who applied for another role fwiw.)
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2019 03:40 |
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Shut up Meg posted:One of my higher-ups engaged me in casual conversation whilst waiting for a meeting to start. Why would you do this?
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2019 13:32 |
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I had already applied for another role and the one I was originally gunning for is going to come open. Gonna escape my boss
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2019 22:49 |
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Work from home
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2019 21:54 |
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Fhqwhgads posted:Do I set my deliverables for this afternoon to a delayed email and gently caress off to a bar to watch the US v FRA match? I have a mandatory team meeting during the game. I'm so pissed I can't sneak out to watch it. Our team meetings are train wrecks too because boss will drone on about bullshit to hear herself talk and we never get to the agenda items we need to address.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2019 15:05 |
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Dango Bango posted:I have a mandatory team meeting during the game. I'm so pissed I can't sneak out to watch it. Good news: My boss didn't drone on so much. Bad news: My two teammates (boss's favorites) did. Talking about stuff that should have been a 1:1 conversation with our boss because it didn't affect the rest of us. Or absolutely beating a dead horse to pieces. Both of them stopped to ask the group questions and each time got dead silence because everyone had zoned out. Funny news: We got our team's Gallup survey results and my boss scored < 25th percentile on creating an open and trusting environment.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2019 22:07 |
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Oh my God the thread title change
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2019 16:59 |
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SharePoint in my org ranges from "document library" to actual forms and information suites depending on budget and IT support basically.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2019 18:29 |
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Renegret posted:Also the search feature is complete dog poo poo. It's hard enough finding a document that you know what it's called. Good luck if you're not sure what's something's called, and god help you if you're not sure if it even exists. Your document might be buried in between 30 time off requests from a year ago that I'm not sure why they're even viewable. GODDAMMIT I was literally just dealing with this poo poo
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2019 20:15 |
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Sundae posted:"Why is this the first time I'm hearing this?" asks manager on seeing anonymous survey results that his department doesn't trust management. Please keep us updated on your oblivious manager. It's my favorite type of story given it's what I'm dealing with now.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2019 23:00 |
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Democratic Pirate posted:Hell is a permanent conference call I'm sorry I was on mute
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2019 19:03 |
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My favorite is someone off mute dropping a "hooooly sh..." to interrupt a meeting.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2019 20:58 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:all i want is this thread to play conferencecall.biz on loop Thank you so much for introducing me to this site. It's amazing
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2019 02:07 |
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Democratic Pirate posted:Me: Hi pivot table, I’d like you to sort on column B, largest to smallest please. This. Also, "this type of chart is not available with PivotTables".
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2019 04:05 |
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Fierce Conversations training loving sucks. (Current stuck in a virtual session.)
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2019 20:07 |
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The Sean posted:Pretty cool that your Fierce Conversations training involves not conversations with another human being. Oh we had 30 minutes of the two hour session to role-play
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2019 22:30 |
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A preview of a weekly leader communication went out and a committee is making a power play to stay relevant in our new organizational model where they are involved in anything being worked on that overlaps business units. (My $0.02 is the committee is obsolete at this point, but no one is doing anything about it.)
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2019 19:25 |
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CarForumPoster posted:Corporate America: Convincing Tnuctip to do more work without more pay I was going to quote literally the same two lines of his post you did, but didn't want to harsh his vibe
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2019 01:28 |
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Schmeichy posted:Ahh feel-good story of the morning. Yesterday I got told to do more work somehow without overtime right before finding out a relative was dying. Some might say I'm stressed. Sounds like you should take some personal time.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2019 16:47 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:20 |
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Shrieking Muppet posted:Just was told that the old boss I fled for being unbearably awful is going to now be my bosses boss. I think I legitimately want to cry. The Corporate Thread: My unbearably awful old boss is now my boss' boss. Renegret posted:We don't even list pay grades in our own internal postings anymore. I'm way more likely to apply for a job with the pay range listed than one without. I don't get why companies do this.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2019 19:53 |