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Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

The 2:1 cropping made sense on laserdisc and even DVD to squeeze out a bit more resolution, but BluRay makes these compromises a moot point.


The big plus to look forward to is the sound. DTS-HD MA is what, 3-4 mbs?

edit: The PR also mentions The Conversation is next in line. :woop:

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jul 29, 2010

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Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Sporadic posted:

Awesome. Now the only thing we need is for Criterion to re-release The Last Emperor in 2.35:1 and offer a replacement program, than everything will be right in the world.

Storaro apparently shot The Last Emperor with cropping in mind, unlike Apocalypse Now. The BluRay looks amazing and the framing never looked "off", but I might be wrong.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

MoC, you magnificent bastards! I just got Make Way for Tomorrow with the certainty it wouldn't hit BluRay in at least 20 years.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4929

Confirmation of 2.35:1 on Apocalypse Now, plus Hearts of Darkness is remastered and 1080p.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Babes in Toyland will probably be a DVNR issue since Legend Films did not use the original elements like MGM did for their authorized DVD.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

http://hcc.techradar.com/playback/coming-soon/blu-ray-screengrab-gallery-studio-canal-collection-wave-three-07-08-10

Quick mini-reviews of StudioCanal's The Third Man, The Graduate, Delicatessen, and Muholland Drive.


The Third Man isn't a travesty, but it's noticeably less defined than Criterion's edition. The Graduate seems to be a big improvement over MGM's edition, though.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

8 1/2 finally arrived today and I immediately watched it. Might be the best B&W BluRay I've seen so far, at least up there with Repulsion and Dr. Strangelove. I'm really enjoying Criterion's PCM mono tracks. Even for a fully post-dubbed film, the fidelity is surprisingly nice.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

DVDBeaver has caps up for the UK Psycho... it looks good, but it seems to have mild DVNR:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare6/psycho.htm

Blu-Ray.com says Hamlet was hit with DVNR, too:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Hamlet-Blu-ray/10381/#Review

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Troll 2 will probably be reference quality. The DVD has a better transfer than a lot of A-grade movies.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Why not just offer the original cuts with unrestored, but fresh 1080p scans from the best available elements? They could be marketed as "archival editions" as if the viewer were watching an original 35mm print.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

It's probably Lowry Digital... they processed Avatar for IMAX. If they worked on Aliens, there's little to worry about. They have the best noise reduction system in the world.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 17, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

I just want to know if Fantasia will have the original Deems Taylor narration intact and none of the ugly frame blowups in the Pastoral segment to hide a black centaur.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Neo_Reloaded posted:

Um good luck with that. Walt himself wanted that change, so I don't see any chance of a reversal.

It's debated on that, considering the first re-release with the changes was after his death and simply jump-cut out the offending footage. There was also a mid-1960s Disneyland episode that had the entire Pastoral segment uncut. Disney can at least task their animation department to digitally re-animate the character to less offensive instead of making the image quality turn to poo poo by cropping the frame.

The 2000 DVD's alterations were probably a last minute decision since the version history notes on the Legacy supplement DVD actually mentions the Pastoral edits on the 1967-1990 versions and NOT being made to the 2000 version. The touch-ups are amateurish at best (you can see mattes wiggling on a few shots and one shot looks like they used clone stamp in Photoshop).

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

The Italian edition has much better color and lacks the noise reduction of MGM's version.

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-ray-imports-subforum/92291-fistful-dollars-italian-blu-ray-group-buy-4.html#post1720029

No English audio or subs, though.

MGM's edition is junk, though. The Italian edition has color timing pretty much spot-on with the 35mm restoration print.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Aug 20, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Vertigo probably needs a lot of work. It's one thing for Psycho, a B&W film, to be cleaned up for Blu-Ray, but the restoration is already 14 years old.

Perhaps they can use the mono-to-5.1 process on Vertigo to get a better remix this time. The mono track on the Masterpiece Collection DVD really isn't that bad. Rear Window had to have its audio restored from a 35mm print and it sounds great.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

That's all?

Imagine if Criterion had this film. Multiple cuts (the '27 Paramount cut licensed from MoMA, plus the restoration), multiple scores (Huppertz, Alloy Orchestra, and even the lovely Moroder one), Von Harbou's novel, multiple commentaries, perhaps the Berlin premiere footage as an alternate angle, and even the previous DVD's extras like the documentary and a revised restoration comparison.

I was OK with giving a pass on their other silents in terms of supplements, but Kino has no excuse to be this no-effort with such a major film and charging a premium for it.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

qbert posted:

I've never seen Metropolis. I take it the film is probably worth risking a blind buy?

Yes. Not only is it an entertaining and easily accessible silent, the technical aspects hold up extremely well. The story isn't the most complex in theme, but no worse than Avatar. The new footage helps a lot - the subplots with Josaphat, Georgy, and Der Schmaler add a lot of depth.

The music score is one of the best ever composed for a film, too.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

I like how the loaded BluRay of both films is half the price of the original DVD set. There's going to be some awesome deals on top of that. I seem to be able to get $40 used for the DVD set, so that's like a free upgrade.

FYI, Toy Story 3's 4-disc edition is $21 if you get a certain promo coupon.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Using DVNR on Moulin Rouge would have made Fox's video systems burst into flames.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

A ton of Paramount DVDs went out of print, so there's no telling if they'll go back in or get licensed. The Conformist looks terrific on DVD, but new copies are kind of expensive now. Perhaps Lionsgate has the rights since they licensed a ton of films from Paramount.

Finally sat down for Doctor Zhivago tonight. Beautiful film, but I wasn't prepared for how well the restoration was handled. It looked like a new film for the most part.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

This is excellent news. This explains Criterion's unusually high-profile New Hollywood box set. I'm guessing Criterion will end up with a lot of these titles, especially Adaptation.

(Note: Criterion DVDs and BluRays are distributed by Image)

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

The Cameo posted:

You seem to have missed Egbert's little note on the last page, so to clarify:

Image is the distributor for Criterion's discs. They also own several movies. Sony has made a deal with them to distribute all their non-Criterion movies and TV shows going forward (most likely the TV shows - did you know Image owns the rights to Shark Week and The Twilight Zone?) owned by Image in exchange for the license for Image to produce DVDs for some Sony-owned titles like Adaptation. and ...And Justice For All, very obviously through their partnership with Criterion (because why would it be part of a deal for Image otherwise?).

EDIT: Think of it as another part of Criterion getting stuff from studios they usually don't get stuff from until recently - like how they made a deal with Warner Bros. which is allowing them to get stuff like Stagecoach and the best prints available for most of Chaplin's stuff, and even access to Warner's restoration department.

Criterion has never worked with WB outside of their MPI division's work on The Red Shoes. Even in laserdisc, any titles were previously Turner-licensed. Stagecoach was a film licensed to Warner for a while before reverting to Caidin Films.

WB has always been this tightfisted with licensing. The most they've done is license a few shorts to Image for the Unseen Cinema box set and possibly rights to Harry Langdon silents to Kino.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Is it 100% confirmed Metropolis is locked? It doesn't look like Nick Wrigley confirmed it on CriterionForum.org yet, which is usually the first place to get such news.

Then again, they may just keep it under wraps since Kino's low-effort release is going to get cut into. Not MoC's fault considering Kino had a chance to do something this cool and they blew it.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Sep 1, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

^ Yeah, I'm not crazy about The Evil Dead, but that's about as perfect a transfer can get.

DVD Beaver on...

THX 1138
Forbidden Planet

Two more home runs for Warner. THX 1138 was processed by Lowry Digital from the original Techniscope negatives.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Sep 1, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Region locking unknown, I decided to take my chance. At worst, I can switch out the BluRay for Kino's within the case. $40 isn't that bad considering it's both formats, an awesome case, and a t-shirt. The Kino Blu is $25 itself, and $15 would be normal for the t-shirt by itself.

Starscream posted:

I hope the free Metropolis t-shirt isn't your average circus tent (L or XL) that they use normally for giveaways. Not everyone is an overweight slob, thankyouverymuch!

XL isn't bad considering they tend to shrink after the first wash and MoC is probably not using American Apparel premium tees.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Noxville posted:

Every other MoC release I own is region B, and given the extreme likelihood of the new cut of Metropolis being given a release in the US soon I'd say it's almost a certainty that this one will be region locked too.

I only have Sunrise, which is region free. City Girl is, too.

Nosferatu, Tabu, and Der Letze Mann, which are all licensed from Transit Film, are all listed as R2 on the cover, but the discs are actually R0.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Details on Kino's Buster Keaton double-feature of Sherlock Jr. and Three Ages...

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/300017/buster-keaton-s-steamboat-bill-jr-coming-from-kino

Sherlock Jr:
Scores by Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra (awesome), Club Foot Orchestra (ugh), and a stock music track by Jay Ward (cool)
Commentary by David Kalat, 15-minute making-of documentary, and a stills gallery

Three Ages:
Scores by Robert Israel (awesome), Lee Erwin, and one for piano
Option to view the three stories as individual shorts
Visual Essay on locations
D.W. Griffith's "Man's Genesis" short


Looks like another solid release!

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

I don't think they're charging extra shipping for us Yanks, so I'd feel dickish for price matching over a shirt.

(XL :blush:)

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

High-res packaging porn:


friendo55 posted:

going through the DD sale lists... i'm just curious what you guys have purchased? or maybe recommendations of films you already own coming out of this sale?

there's too much to choose from and i'm basically lookin for some direction here.. i believe Battleship Potempkin is a lock already.. (and im open to anything as far as tastes go)

The General, Potemkin, and Steamboat Bill Jr. are all essentials. Excellent remasters, great movies, and the music scores are not just appropriate, but amazingly well recorded.

How the West Was Won, A Passage to India, Bonnie and Clyde, Easy Rider, and North by Northwest are not only great movies, but the BluRays are flawless. Keep in mind Easy Rider is in Criterion's "New Hollywood" box set, though.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Sep 3, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

MoC's Metropolis is confirmed Region B. :(

Also, The Digital Bits says Fantasia will still have the edited Pastoral segment, but it'll "more seamless" than the old versions. I'm guessing they're digitally re-touching it. Still, not even an option to watch the original version. :mad:

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Sep 3, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

doctor thodt posted:

If you play your cards right you can get a region free player for around $100, possibly less. I'm not saying you should do it just to be able to play Metropolis, but there are so many wonderful region-locked imports that make it a very worthwhile investment.

There is a Sherwood model for $140 on Amazon. Looks good.

Although, are there ways to modify a computer to all-region? My Vaio has a BRD drive, plus full 1080p HDMI output.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

DeepDiscount has a Kino sale. Battleship Potemkin, The General, and Steamboat Bill Jr. are all $15.

They also have a lot of good DVDs worth picking up like the Movies Begin set, which probably won't hit BluRay very soon.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

http://www.blu-ray.com/community/collection.php?member=Egbert+Souse

Even got all my rentals listed. :cool:

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

TheDigitalBits reports that Trumbull's 2001 documentary just got nixed. :(

While the current Blu is fantastic, one idea is to make a "companion" release with the documentary and some other featuress. For example, there's an Arthur C. Clarke interview that was on the old MGM DVD. The deleted scenes exist in Turner's archives in 65mm color separations, which could finally be transferred to 1080p.

Kind of sucks WB isn't giving it a go considering it would have been a great idea.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Neo_Reloaded posted:

I saw the pic with the supposed error, looks exactly like a lens flare.... Someone with the DVD said it was there as well. I mean, I guess good diligence to the reviewer for contacting Criterion about it, but I personally would have held the review until I got the response since the title doesn't come out for another month.

Darjeeling was shot anamorphic, which tends of have weird flares. See the Playboy concert scene in Apocalypse Now.

It looks gorgeous. The DVD is still my reference for how far DVD can go when properly mastered.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Maybe Taxi Driver will be through Criterion now that Sony and Image are joint-producing stuff.


Seconding the yearning for Welles in HD. The Trial is StudioCanal, so no hope for a Criterion. I'd like to see Universal try out Touch of Evil if just for having all three cuts on one disc. F for Fake would be a GREAT opportunity if just to include the original Reichenbach documentary as an extra and the restored trailer. Maybe even upgrade One Man Band and that trailer to 1080p, plus add the Masters of Cinema commentary.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 20, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Criminal Minded posted:

Not a chance in hell. Scorsese loved the effect of the color change.

The HD remaster used for Sony's 2-disc SE has better color throughout, but the shootout has more of a red/amber tint than the drained salmon tint. I'm not sure if it's how it originally looked or a byproduct of the old DVD having the wrong color timing. I recall a lot of early Sony DVDs having weird color timing (like Lawrence of Arabia's pink sand).

Given Sony's ace track record and Scorsese usually participating in remasters, we'll at least know it'll be right when it comes out.

ClydeUmney posted:

Hell, I'd just settle for a copy of The Trial that didn't look like complete rear end.

The StudioCanal DVD looks great. Besides ugly digital French credits, it's at least uncut and the image quality is excellent. It's ultra-rare, though. Optimum's DVD is 16x9, I think, but it apparently has the "Before the Law" prologue cut out. :wtf:

Citizen Kane will be a knock-out, no doubt. I just hope Warner also puts out The Magnificent Ambersons without making it DVD-only.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Criterion probably uses their Blu-height cases because of booklets. They have to be fairly small to fit in the thin cases (see MoC's Sunrise).

I have 8 BluRays on pre-order, which is probably the most I've ever: Modern Times, Paths of Glory, The World at War, Fantasia, Sherlock Jr/Three Ages, Psycho, MoC's Metropolis steelbook, and Toy Story 3 (4-disc). WoW was mainly to lock in the sale price. I'm probably going to cancel Fantasia at the last minute if the re-editing is poorly done, though.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

I'd rather have the Cocteau film, but Disney's Beauty and the Beast seems to be perfect:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Beauty-and-the-Beast-Blu-ray/759/#Review

FitFortDanga posted:

I'm at 14:

The Bridge on the River Kwai
Twilight Zone Season 2
The Night of the Hunter
Metropolis
Fantasia/Fantasia 2000
Alien Anthology
House
Paths of Glory
The Darjeeling Limited
The Magician
The Thin Red Line
The Maltese Falcon
The Exorcist
Psycho


I'm guessing thodt is somewhere around 130 (or maybe he doesn't pre-order, the magic Blu-Ray fairy just drops them down his chimney).

Twilight Zone has to wait until I can sell my DVD box and there's a box set of all five seasons. The Night of the Hunter, and Darjeeling are mine in the next B&N sale. Might add The Magician, House, and The Thin Red Line, but I'm going to Netflix them first.

Did you go for the MoC or Kino Metropolis? I'm still trying to decide on buying the Sherwood all-region player before November...

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Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Amazon's DOTD is The Wizard of Oz UCE for $37. That's about the same price as the plain-wrap 3-disc "Emerald Edition"

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