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Application cycle update: Rejected at Yale and Stanford, on the waitlist for Harvard. No, my application wasn't horrible. The new admissions dean at Harvard has waitlisted most of the applicants with numbers like mine or slightly better. Probably going to take the Northwestern deferred full ride and work in DC for a year because that's such an awesome deal. Unless I find some cool job I like and decide not to go to law school. I also really enjoy fajita burritos from Chipotle, with sour cream and stuff.
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# ¿ May 7, 2010 00:46 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 13:11 |
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Abugadu posted:lawl drat, that's depressing. Glad I'm going to Northwestern. Totally different thing here. That's practically the opposite direction!
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# ¿ May 7, 2010 07:06 |
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billion dollar bitch posted:Well, I've decided not to do anything. But Feces, how are you saying "people will cheat will get theirs?" How will people get theirs if nothing happens? No, you're right. "Karma will even things out" or "people who cheat will get theirs" just isn't true. Plenty of horrible people benefit greatly from doing horrible things. That said, karma is a bitch mwah
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# ¿ May 10, 2010 05:18 |
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sigmachiev posted:Woop done, gonna be a sick summer in SD then I'm blowing this pop stand for greener pastures. Haha, these three posts in a row could really give somebody who hasn't read the thread carefully the impression that going to a T2-4 with the intention of transferring up is a good idea. Low GPA guy, if you realllly want to go to law school, pretty much your only shot at a T14 is working in the real world for a couple years, getting a 171/172+ on the LSAT, and applying to Northwestern with binding early decision.
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# ¿ May 14, 2010 01:55 |
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Incredulous Red posted:If you're waitlisted at this point you're probably not going That's kind of a silly thing to say. Anybody who's waitlisted at any point is "probably not going," but schools still pull off the waitlist well into the summer and he should do his best to get in if he wants to go. We're only a couple weeks past the deposit deadlines of most schools.
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# ¿ May 14, 2010 21:54 |
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Blinkz0rz posted:That's pretty loving racist. No, it's not. Anyway, here's the most likely answer: Petey's public ivy was in Virginia, the dumb student was a Virginia resident, and Virginia residents have a huge advantage when applying to UVA Law, which I think is pretty lame.
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# ¿ May 18, 2010 08:53 |
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HooKars posted:UVA only reserves 40% of it's class for VA students, so it's really not a huge advantage. At least in comparison to schools like UT who reserve 65% of their class to residents and UNC who take 70-75% residents. I think 40% is huge for a T14. UNC is ranked much lower, while Texas has more than three times the population of Virginia, and has lower admissions standards as well, and Texas residents do have a really big advantage. The other T14 state schools don't have in-state quotas even close to as high as UVA, and residents of those states still have a noticeable, though not huge, advantage.
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# ¿ May 18, 2010 20:02 |
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HooKars posted:Do you want them to change this just because a random magazine decided they were a good school? Virginia residents definitely have an advantage but in state school land, their quota is relatively tame. I'm pretty sure UVA could make their numbers lower since they're almost entirely privately funded, but a lot of residency statistics are tied to state funding. Schools aren't just going to give that up or make huge changes because US News bumps UCLA, UNC, UT or whoever up into the top 14. Of course I'm not saying that the reason it's lame is because some crazy news magazine randomly decided UVA should be in the top 14. I'm saying it because as a T14, UVA has very high standards for non-UVA residents, and has very good job prospects for students coming out of the school, much better and more nationally-applicable than T30 state schools. California again is an enormous state, even bigger than Texas, and Berkeley and UCLA probably get enough applicants from California who have roughly the same GPA/LSAT cominations as non-residents who get in. A large portion of non-residents who get in probably choose other schools. There's a difference between a quota and what percent actually end up getting admitted or matriculating. Minnesota and Iowa are both good schools, but they're regional schools and they're going to get many more in-state applicants than a school that a large number of people from all over the country apply to and end up attending like UVA. I'm not blaming UVA if they have to do this or lose state funding. I'm saying that an expensive law school with such high standards for out-of-state students and good job prospects all over the country, in a relatively small state, should not have such a high quota for VA residents. Unless there are data that show that VA residents only have a pretty minor advantage when applying. Edit: I have other arguments I could use too, but this post is already long. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 23:05 on May 18, 2010 |
# ¿ May 18, 2010 22:44 |
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I've been interviewing with LSAT prep companies in DC with the hope of getting a job. I know I'll have some kids who want to go to non-good law schools and it'll be sad, but my goal is to make sure every student does better than I did on the LSAT. I should found a tutoring service with something cheesy like that as the motto, it works too well with my score.
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# ¿ May 20, 2010 15:05 |
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Linguica posted:Dude, it's not his fault Duke won the NCAA Tournament!
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# ¿ May 20, 2010 15:46 |
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echopapa posted:So family law is basically The Aristocrats. I thought this comment was really funny.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2010 05:10 |
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Congrats, now you can "boalt" from USD to a better California school! Called Berkeley.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2010 23:24 |
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:(actually Lewis & Clark's stuff was kickin' rad and sold the place well, maybe I should keep that one and burn the rest) I'm really sick of telling people this, and maybe you're just joking, but: Lewis & Clark isn't worth going to UNLESS you're absolutely certain you're interested in environmental justice.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2010 00:43 |
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billion dollar bitch posted:I'm firmly above median, billion dollar bitch posted:I mean honestly, 3.28 ... what do you think my chances are? I thought median at Columbia was at least 3.3. Edit: Also how do Columbia students know whether to calculate A- as 3.7 or 3.66, and B+ as 3.3 or 3.33? I guess you could look at how the undergrad does it. Or is there a standard for law schools?
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2010 16:32 |
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Green Crayons posted:Upcoming class of 2013 has a FB group, with various discussion topics. There are still only three people in my class's Facebook group...
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2010 00:29 |
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Having a barrier to entry like the bar would make a lot more sense if people had to take it before they go to law school and fully commit themselves to the profession.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2010 15:39 |
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It's a lot more reasonable to want to be rich/richer in the United States than in Europe. Compared to other developed countries, America is a place where it sucks to have an average income. In Europe, university is cheap as poo poo so people don't have to worry about paying for their kids' educations or having loans. In general both men and women get about six months of paid maternity/paternity leave and another six months of unpaid leave. Public transportation is good so you don't have to own a car. Health care is adequate and health problems aren't a huge financial drain. Having several weeks of paid vacation per year is mandatory. There are really generous safety nets for people if things go wrong. The United States doesn't have this stuff. In the United States a family with an income even close to as low as average is one moderate disaster away from being in deep poo poo. Having money is really important in the United States compared to other developed countries, because our system is centered around making as much money as you can for yourself.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2010 22:03 |
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Lykourgos posted:Well I don't know what BU is, but if he's literally number 1 in the class, shouldn't he be able to get something? I mean, he can literally say "I have the highest GPA at my TTT, and I am on a TTT law review" He said section, not class. Still, I think a ~top 5% person at BU should be in good shape.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2010 16:44 |
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Lykourgos posted:Was your job at some lovely biglaw firm? Can't tell if this is supposed to be about Viagra.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2010 05:19 |
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! When is SA going to put "like" buttons under posts so I can just like your post instead of having to actually say something to congratulate you? Good work!
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2010 23:32 |
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JudicialRestraints posted:Interview update: Within 3 hours of arriving in Washington DC I stepped on and have been attacked by a squirrel. I already told you, it didn't attack you if you stepped on it first. Keep your fat loving feet off our squirrels!
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2010 18:21 |
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This guy worked at my dad's labor firm. That's the firm he's talking about. I even mentioned something to #lawgoons once or twice about there being a "fashionable Asian guy" working at my dad's office. I swear my dad's firm is more enjoyable than biglaw, despite what he says! Sure makes you not want to be a lawyer, huh? Edit: Wow, go to his website, his stuff is good. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Aug 19, 2010 |
# ¿ Aug 19, 2010 05:05 |
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My goal at NULS will be to marry one of the med students at the law/med school campus.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2010 07:53 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:If anyone needs me I'll be in the burn ward, drat Don't think Medicaid covers a burn that bad, sorry...
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2010 02:27 |
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GamingHyena posted:Seriously though, what attorney would be stupid enough to infringe on the IP of a somewhat well known one hit wonder by ripping off their name and best known song? The band's name is taken from something that already existed during the Holocaust. The song is "Love Will Tear Us Apart" and not "Love will tear you apart." Would Joy Division really get anything from this law firm?
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2010 19:08 |
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Petey posted:These beliefs provided a stability and foundation and legitimacy to legal practice that was needed to itself legitimate what would otherwise be something that people literally revolted at (why follow a judge's decision if you think it's just his random bullshit beliefs and not based on higher principle?) Man, that kind of makes me think of the first down chain they use in football. Except there's a totally different kind of chain gang in this situation. Linguica posted:The "Hand formula" basically says you're only negligent if the cost burden of preventing that negligence (B) is less than the probability (P) of some bad thing happening negligently, multiplied by the cost of the loss (L) of that bad thing, i.e., B < P*L. For instance, if there's a 10% chance that a person might trip on a crack on the sidewalk outside your store and hurt themselves to the tune of $1000, you're only negligent if fixing the crack would cost less than $100. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0dmRJ0oWg
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2010 15:44 |
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Petey posted:I've said this before but one day I will write an article analyzing the use of the first down chain from a legal realist perspective / as a metaphor for legal decision making. I know, I was actually referencing/plagiarizing your work!
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2010 20:34 |
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Draile posted:Have fun at Stanford / Cal. You would have been a probable admit at Yale if you'd applied there, too. What? No. Don't say stuff like this if you don't actually know. Those aren't Yale numbers. He has a shot at Yale, but probably wouldn't get in. And he's only a maybe at Harvard and Stanford. Stanford is also pretty grade-heavy so his chances at Harvard are probably better. He has a very good chance of not making it into HYS altogether. The GPA is a little low for those schools. No more "Have fun at Yale/Stanford/Harvard" posts unless you know what you're talking about please, it's annoying (if I missed the part where he said he's a URM, I apologize). Edit: Also Petey I think you mean admittances instead of applicants. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Sep 24, 2010 |
# ¿ Sep 24, 2010 06:24 |
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nm posted:That doesn't mean he shouldn't apply. He should absolutely apply, I agree. zzyzx posted:Unless the ranges have gone way up in the last few years, 178/3.7 will almost certainly get into Harvard Draile posted:The 3.75 is also little low for HS but I think 178 compensates for it. The LSAT is weighed higher than GPA and at the upper extremes of the scale even minor changes in score drastically improve positioning relative to other applicants. In particular, Stanford's 75th percentile is only a 172, which is the 98.6th percentile on the exam; a 178 is in the 99.9th according to http://www.alpha-score.com/resource...ore-conversion. That 1.3% is a big difference when lots of top students with similar numbers are applying. That's the thing, Harvard's and Stanford's ranges have gone up in recent years. Harvard also has a new admissions dean who seems to be less into 178+ LSAT scores than Toby Stock was. I'll go into this on the condition that people don't get nasty and say I must have been a lovely applicant. I applied with numbers slightly better than his, LSAC 3.77 and 179, and I was dinged at Yale and Stanford and waitlisted with no acceptance at Harvard. For a couple years people were telling me I was absolutely guaranteed to get into Harvard, even if I completely hosed things up. I'll admit that I did a few things that must have hurt my application in Harvard's eyes, and while I had interesting and varied soft factors, I didn't have anything legitimately impressive. But I wasn't just a fluke. There were several applicants on TLS and LSN who had slightly worse to a bit better numbers than mine who were also waitlisted by Harvard. Some got in and some didn't. So 3.75-3.8/178-180 isn't what it used to be. There was even a 180/3.79 woman I talked to who seemed very well-written and intelligent based on her posts/messages and had some work experience who was waitlisted and ended up at Columbia with I think a half scholarship. I'm not complaining though, my cycle went well overall because I got a deferred full ride at Northwestern and I think that situation is as good as or better for me than anything but Yale or a full ride at a better school.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2010 16:13 |
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billion dollar bitch posted:Maybe he was deferred and then chose a better career. Also MFH is a p. cool guy so basically Yale is worse off without him. Thank you! And thanks, Petey. Like I said though, I can't complain. I'm lucky that I got what I got. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting though.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2010 20:52 |
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:GULC shitheads: rugby tomorrow @ 11 am on constitution and 6th I'm in DC and play rugby, but I just had dead people surgery Tuesday for my third and fourth knee ligament tears and can't walk yet. Otherwise I would totally join you guys. Also I'm done with rugby forever. Be careful Baruch, you're probably pretty soft now from that government job <3
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2010 06:29 |
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If this will make people considering law school consider again: I'm a special snowflake who did well on the LSAT and got a full scholarship at a top 14 school (Northwestern), which is deferred until Fall 2011, and I'm seriously considering not going. We'll see in about a year. I'd say right now there's a 50% chance that I'll either defer for another year, which they just told me I can do, or just not go. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Oct 12, 2010 |
# ¿ Oct 12, 2010 04:49 |
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ewr2870 posted:She's out-of-touch and a terrible communicator. I don't see anything particularly wrong with that email. It seems like a pretty standard email for a dean to send to students.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2010 21:55 |
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Save me jeebus posted:In other news, my new employers are total irreverent bastards, when Easter rolls around my boss gives hell to the other partner about his people killing Jesus. Also I was getting drunk on the clock with my boss' approval. Double also he showed me where he keeps the Woodford Reserve. OMG your office sounds so wacky! It's like it's literally The Office and you're Pam or Jim! No, but seriously, that's good to hear.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2010 01:29 |
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Napoleon I posted:
All right, but does he look good? Does he pull it off? Are they ugly prefaded jeans or are they dark? Does everything fit? Assuming the Westlaw rep is a guy. If it's a woman, that sounds pretty cool. Also I guess I should say that despite my name I've never had a fauxhawk.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 20:08 |
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J Miracle posted:I was under the impression it was all done on the same day but not the same thing, like you did basically an exam then a presentation then a group project then interview, plus there's a job fair in there somewhere I don't know. I'm just gonna plod along and let them tell me what to do, that's the leadership quality they're looking for I'm sure. I'm just wondering, are you still #1 in your class at MSU (or did I remember that completely incorrectly)? If you are I think it should be noted more so that potential law stupids don't just write you off as another schlub at a TTT from whom they don't need to learn.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2010 18:06 |
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Every time somebody complains about the ABA, somebody else says that it was ruled that the ABA can't remove accreditation from schools as we want them to and they have their hands tied. Somebody just post a link to this already so I can read about it.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2010 05:38 |
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We seriously only get one LSAT score reported and then it's back to taco chat? I hope some more drift in, mainly from people who've actually posted in this thread before.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2010 04:36 |
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Defleshed posted:Hey don't look at me I am but a cog in the machine. A legal sonderkommando
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2010 21:00 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 13:11 |
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blar posted:Send them a check for $0.10. Maybe they won't hassle you so much if your name is on the official law school donor list? Right, like that time I got guilted into giving some money to CARE after the disaster in Haiti and they never, ever contacted me again!
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2010 18:57 |