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Linguica posted:new chartz builds character posted:This is important.
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Linguica posted:edit: "There are currently 875 authorized Article III judgeships." So about 2 clerks per judge? Using the USNWR numbers with the average class size as found on W&M's website, about 8 students per year go from W&M to an Article III clerkship. Can I be one of those lucky few? No. Will I build up a secret hope throughout my LS career that I can achieve this coveted and nearly-impossible dream, only to have it all come crashing down in a cacophony of binge drinking and bitter jobless tears? Oh, yes. I do believe so. e: IrritationX posted:That might even be a little conservative. The Article III judges here in Denver all have two, and three isn't unheard of. Green Crayons fucked around with this message at 17:05 on May 7, 2010 |
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May 7, 2010 17:00
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builds character posted:No, no, no... Opposing counsels are Candidates, the act of granting certiorari is Jacob, the Supreme Court is the Island, the MiB is No, no, no... Personal judicial philosophies are Candidates, career politicians are Jacob, judicial review is the Island, the MiB is the non-legally educated populous. No, no, no...
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May 11, 2010 14:27
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HolySwissCheese posted:My LRW final was legit lost-themed, I had to represent Hugo Reyes, sole proprietor of Reyes of Light vs John Locke, representative of the Island Condominium Poject Alaemon posted:My torts 2 final was Buffy themed. She got sent to a boot camp for troubled teens and there was some agency law involved and I can't remember what else. Incredulous Red posted:Mine was Twilight themed Did you guys just answer the questions straight, or add in little thematic quips? "Respondent John Locke is at fault because of X, Y and Z legal reasonings. Plus, he's not even really a living American, and more of a nebulous ball of black and malicious smoke, and thus not subject to the legal protections of representation." or "While the agency law fails to hold up to legal scrutiny, we must keep in mind that the plaintiff is what could be described as a real-life superhero, and thus must be treated with a stronger hand to show that the world we have built and the agencies operating within it will not crumble before preternatural strength." TheAttackSlug posted:Got paying job for 2L summer at prosecutors.
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May 12, 2010 12:19
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I like to think that this thread is simply a representation of the legal field at large: filled with hypersensitive egos and long-winded discussions about something or another that inadvertently offended someone's feelings, requiring at least some amount of input from all those within earshot (billables!), while Speaking of which, I saw a Chipotle for the first time in my life last weekend in my visit up to Williamsburg. Didn't go in, because someone itt said it was trash after it was brought up as a potentially viable taco vendor to frequent.
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May 18, 2010 18:43
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Ainsley McTree posted:So I'm looking at this profile on okcupid and at first I'm like she seems pretty cool but then I get to this Because, jesus, man. How are you not at that point? We all float down here.
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May 19, 2010 04:26
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newberstein posted:I am Mexican. quote:a 3.4 GPA quote:the 168-172 range Unless if your uncle somehow has major pull with somebody that matters in the law school, he's a non-issue. Doesn't really matter, since you're doing just fine on your own. If I were you, I'd think long and hard about why I wanted to be a lawyer. And then I would make sure that that's actually what lawyers do. And then I'd go to the highest ranked T14 that would give me a (nearly) full ride. Just don't gently caress up your LSAT and it's entirely possible. Good luck.
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May 19, 2010 14:33
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gvibes posted:5) Don't try to get all your fellow summers to start a mutiny against your firm in protest.
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May 21, 2010 04:30
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nous_ posted:I just graduated,
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May 21, 2010 22:30
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Deposition summaries of drug addicts make me want to turn Republican. God drat liars. e: and holy hell they don't know how to shut up. e2: five minute break between summaries used for SA or coffee run? I made the right choice.
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May 24, 2010 21:04
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evilweasel posted:Find a motion for summary judgment someone else wrote and ape the relevant parts. If your office has an awesome electronic document network, your search just got 10x easier.
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May 25, 2010 00:48
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Solomon Grundy posted:helpful I feel like you're the strange and hypothetical creation of a situation where builds character and Phil micowhateverthenameis had a child and it grew to be older than the two of them. You have character's zeal for the job but Phil's detest for [some aspects of] the profession... simultaneously.
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May 27, 2010 05:32
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The Warp posted:Hello, I had a question that my girlfriend is kind of embarrassed to ask. She just recently graduated from Berkeley with a dual major, but alas the best Law School she can get accepted to right now is LaVerne or Western State University. You should tell your girlfriend that she probably doesn't know what a real lawyer does, and should take her extra year off to work in a law firm in some degree (legal assistant, paralegal, courier... loving anything) to make sure she knows to some reasonable degree as to what Actual Lawyers do and she really wants to do that for the Rest of Her God Damned Life. Since your girlfriend when to Berkeley for undergrad, I will make the assumption that she is smart. If being a lawyer and arguing over boring-as-poo poo-facts isn't her calling (fun anecdotal case-in-point: my office managing partner (you know, the guy who brings in the loving rain every time he breathes?) just had a month-and-a-half argument with opposing counsel concerning their client's physical address), feel free to call her out on making a major life mistake without any sense of guilt for doing so. e:fb. Story of my life.
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May 27, 2010 07:28
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The Warp posted:Jesus Christ. I've read the opening posts, so I had a very bad feeling about the futility in all of this, but I will show her this again and hopefully we can make the best decision possible. If you have any more advice for her, please give it. She's on the verge of deciding to attend one of these schools. No, she's not dumb at all. I'm sure her LSAT was okay, I think it might be that her GPA was just under 3.5. She's asian. She majored in Rhetoric and Media Studies. quote:She's Chinese, and I'm not sure what her LSAT was. She doesn't like her options as far as Law School is concerned, because she's not dumb, but she's hoping she can transfer a notch up after the first year or so. She's the kind of girl that likes to make a plan and stick with it, and make the best of it, so I'm hoping we can figure something out.
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May 27, 2010 08:06
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Vander posted:Yup. And the judge just handed to briefs of the movants and told me to write him an order for consolidation. It's my 4th day!
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May 29, 2010 00:37
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Dude, just hit 170 on the LSAT and then let your Uncle know. You're Mexican, you've got an above average GPA, you'll be fine.
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May 30, 2010 21:23
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newberstein posted:I know I shouldn't be worrying this much but I just wanted a little reassurance. I was thinking about taking him out to lunch but wasn't sure if my intentions would be too obvious. "Hey I flew across the country just to chat" Pompoon posted:Could you go with a "hey I'd like to talk with you about what it's like to go to this school/be a lawyer, want to do lunch and talk about it"? Granted, I think it's odd that you would need to fly across the country to have lunch with your uncle. Don't drop a couple of hundred in airplane fees just to have the chance to take your uncle out to lunch. But if it's easy and you're going to be in the same town as he is for whatever reason, offer to take him out re: his recommendation.
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May 30, 2010 23:23
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Deacon of Delicious posted:Will schools care that after a five year break I came back and kicked rear end, or will they only care about the 3.46? I was trying to imagine what would be a fun company to work in-house for as litigation counsel. I came up with Nintendo, Disney and Google, but then realized I never hear about them in any sort of lawsuit. This led me to wonder: Is that because they have awesome PR working 24/7 or is it because they actually really don't deal with lawsuits and employ in-house for pretty much only transactional capacities?
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Jun 3, 2010 11:55
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builds character posted:Disney, Nintendo and Google - IP IP IPIPIPIPI IPIPI PIIP IP IP IPIPIPIPPIP. I don't know why I have these notions or where I got them from, but they don't really seem to gel with what you just described. Are they incorrect? gvibes posted:Google had a bunch of IP openings recently, but apparently their pay sucks. Also, I don't want to move to nocal. rsvandy posted:Google has a couple of very high profile issues going on right now...like the Google Books lawsuit issue and the Viacom-Youtube lawsuit. entris posted:I would like to hear the backstory to this.
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Jun 3, 2010 22:43
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CaptainScraps posted:No one actually reads the poo poo you file, not your bosses, not your local counsel, nor the judge. The only people who read what you file are opposing counsel and only so they can bill. They won't pass it on to their clients until the eve of trial.
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Jun 4, 2010 21:42
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CaptainScraps posted:We actually sent a letter to a judge in regards to a summary judgment that (paraphrased) stated, "Hey, there's over 300 pages filed for this summary judgment. There's another point that needs to be addressed but do you even want to read the briefing?"  I don't know gently caress-all what I'm talking about.
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Jun 5, 2010 01:03
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CaptainScraps posted:Eh, grain of salt. I just like bitching.
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Jun 5, 2010 02:02
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BigHead posted:I think I just got my first work. A friend of mine is trying to sell his home-made halfpipe (for skateboarding) on Craigslist and asked me advice for writing up something to release him from liability. I told him to gently caress off since I don't pass the bar until next month - knock on wood - but then he offered to actually pay me. I haven't the slightest idea about anything, but I said I'll go for it! Use the next month to study for the bar. After you drag yourself out of the drunken haze you'll undoubtedly find yourself post-bar exam, just look up random Release Agreements on the internet and piece together something that looks pretty official. I would guess it would take about an hour. Tell him you'll give him a discount because he's a friend and charge him $50. Welcome to the beginning of the rest of your life! 
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Jun 9, 2010 12:41
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builds character posted:There is a difference between passing the bar and being admitted to the bar. You have to be admitted before you can practice.
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Jun 9, 2010 17:26
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But you'll have to sell it. So you'll need to be heartbroken for like a month. But you need to sell that you're an awesome associate even in the face of personal life tragedy, so only one of those days you need to show up mildly disheveled and stick to your office with the door closed, while the other 29 days you bill 15-20 hour days because you needed to lose yourself in your work to get over your heartbreak. If you catch yourself chuckling at any office humor, bite your tongue and bring tears to your eyes so they will know that you're laughing to mask the pain. Also, try to perfect "dead eyes" when having face-to-face conversations with peers. Sounds like an awful amount of lying. edit: Look, new page. Here's some more content! I wish law school would start already. I'm tired of waiting. I just want to be in the thick of hating myself.
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Jun 15, 2010 03:47
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CaptainScraps posted:I think my hatred for law school has actually exceeded my hatred for myself. Bar torts, every single course I've ever taken has been wholly useless outside of the classroom. I actually use my undergraduate major more on a day-to-day basis than I do my legal education. Law school is less about teaching you how to be a lawyer than a professor waxing over the topics that they're interested in while not teaching you a loving thing about the law as practiced. Solomon Grundy posted:Family law is horrible. You don't want to do it unless you have a personality disorder. Everyone always ends up hating you, even your own client. Watching the kids get punted around like a football is the worst, especially when the clients start accusing each other of abusing the kids, real or imagined. No. I only say, "You know, just not family law."
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Jun 15, 2010 11:49
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Yeah, I just skimmed (what am I a student?) a back and forth about a totally awesome action movie. Lay down some judgments concerning someone getting mad about paint drying or something.
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Jun 18, 2010 21:50
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Solomon Grundy posted:A litigator.
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Jun 19, 2010 18:12
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CaptainScraps posted:No joke. TV lawyers will refer you their cases if they get a 40% cut. e: and Hookars is better than them. e2: A few years ago one of the local tv lawyers was sued by his client because his client didn't think his lawyer was trying to get the most money for his client and instead was simply operating a revolving door business where defense lawyers knew he would settle a case at a lower acceptable rate than normal just to speed up the process. Go figure, right? At any rate, in the deposition of this tv lawyer, he admitted to having gone to trial only once and having never taken the deposition of any witness in his 20+ years of practice. gently caress tv lawyers. e3: and he's still raking in business. Green Crayons fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 19, 2010 |
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Jun 19, 2010 20:40
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Wikipedia'd Shapiro and loled. I wasn't referring to him, so either I've heard a fictional localized version of Shapiro with inserted local attorney names or that's just par for the course for the actions of a large number of tv attorneys. I'd put my money on the latter.
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Jun 19, 2010 21:23
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So, what benefits come with a lateral move? Is it just hoping your next batch of peers aren't as big of assholes as your current group, or is just a location thing, or what?
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Jun 21, 2010 03:20
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"I like to work diligently and extensively but without the pressure of needing to strive for a more oustanding title/higher payscale/bigger office in an environment where peers work competitively instead of cooperatively. Working hard in what others would call a "dead-end job" is, for me, a rewarding career path where my hard work and teamwork will pay off in a sense of a job well done rather than material success or another notch on one's belt to climb some corporate capitalist's wet-dream of a ladder. After all, the job itself is the reward and the only acknowledgement I need of my accomplishments is the mere retention of my current position." Did I make it too far of a stretch?
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Jun 22, 2010 17:29
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builds character posted:I don't know who you're replying to but do not ever do this.  Click here for the full 570x737 image.
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Jun 23, 2010 22:54
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amishsexpot posted:I don't know. I'm still really confused about what I want out of my future, but I feel like I'm 25 and I'm pretty much going to be dead soon. I don't want to waste my time and not have the money/resources to be able to support my future family, and I don't want to be the type that ends up marrying for money just to survive. Also, if you're struggling on $55-60k/year - which is what is suggested by this notion that your current pay rate would somehow force you to "marry for money" - and I'm assuming you don't have any dependents draining your funds, you should probably invest in a money management class intead of any sort of higher education. It would probably help you a lot more in the long run. e: I understand that you're in NY and the COL is pretty high, but feeling as if you need to marry for money while bringing in $60k at the age of 25 means you're doing something wrong.
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Jun 25, 2010 17:20
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amishsexpot posted:I've heard the husband pays all her expenses. I don't want to be like that, if I can help it. CaptainScraps posted:A more realistic case is you go to law school, place in the middle of your class and work like a dog for $60K a year, assuming you get a job.
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Jun 25, 2010 18:01
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Adar posted:I'm just gonna toss this out there: veteran attorneys practicing in Texas probably have a better read on "things that will probably piss the formerly small town judge off and make him perfunctorily deny your motions for the next two decades out of spite" than you do. I'm waiting for Scraps to finally give us an elated post about how he went behind his boss' back and filed his awesome MSJ because he knows its the right thing to do and how he's writing this post while currently kicking back smoking a cigar getting his dick sucked and waiting for his boss to come in and say that they won the case and that he's sorry and he's giving Scraps a bonus on top of his bonus and apologizes for not understanding Scraps' awesome case strategy and that there's a place open in the firm for Scraps as soon as he graduates from LS with no roadblocks between Scraps and equity partner. And then? Then I can't wait for the post that comes two hours after that. It will be delicious. So stop messing with my stories, man.
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Jun 29, 2010 23:34
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Ainsley McTree posted:You laugh but when Scraps inevitably gets elected as President Of The Law you'll be sorry
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Jun 30, 2010 04:08
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HooKars posted:Okay everyone. Let's try REALLY hard to help me get this job. I know we went over good questions to ask during interviews awhile back but does anyone have any other good ones - specifically for someone not entering the summer program.
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Jul 3, 2010 20:19
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Y-Hat posted:2. I don't want to do law because a lot of stuff is counter to common sense, and I don't want to change my way of thinking for work. GamingHyena posted:I feel sorry for the guy, but babysitting isn't in my job description and I'm starting to give him fewer and fewer assignments because I'm tired of spending unnecessary hours cleaning up after his mistakes. You should in no way feel compelled to continue to give assignments to someone you know who will fail miserably. Maybe if you wanted to babysit and explain how he's screwing things up and help him along then continuing to hand him projects would make sense. However, as you have already stated, that isn't your responsibility and you shouldn't feel compelled to extend yourself to establish that sort of mentor relationship. 
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bleep bloop i want to be a lawyer to churn out x>y profit, where x is money made and y is money spent on hookers and blow bleep bloop
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